Transfer Rumours Only

[Batman]

In my mind he's already gone to be honest. I'm not all that fussed now.

 

I get what you mean.

If he does force a move, will make the club and more so, Ralph look stupid and a bit weak. Especially after that statements recently made (which were positive IMO)

 

I hope we hold our nerve. If we don't, I hope we so a very good deal that would include chadli coming the other way and we have another CM in the building

[Saint IQ]

i was told today that Scott Sinclairs brother plays for us and is likely to be useful

 

How have you only just found that out? Thought everyone knew that

[Window Cleaner]

So..... Only a few weeks to spend the remaining 44m as suggested then. Gardos looks a decent player but ultimately not first choice IMO and it didnt sound overly positive regarding morgan

 

What 44 million ?

[hypochondriac]

This is the version I have heard.

 

Rubbish.

[sadoldgit]

A lot of clubs have done lot of their transfer business already. Also unlike us no other team in the PL have lost 5 first team players. I know its not easy to sign players but as previously sad by others we should have had at least a couple of replacements lined up before we agreed to let all 5 go.

 

This has been done to death. We are where we are so why not just accept the situation and see who comes in?

[saint_ed]

I get what you mean.

If he does force a move, will make the club and more so, Ralph look stupid and a bit weak. Especially after that statements recently made (which were positive IMO)

 

I hope we hold our nerve. If we don't, I hope we so a very good deal that would include chadli coming the other way and we have another CM in the building

 

Agreed, I'd be happy with 25m + Chadli. We won't get that though.

[Smirking_Saint]

What 44 million ?

 

Exactly, it wont be spent

 

(90m - pelle+tadic = 70m - average wages (20m) leaves 50m - gardos fee)

[JakkoUK]

This is the version I have heard.

 

Any new snippet of information for today on potential signings? Or if in fact anything is to happen today or next few days? Would be much appreciated.

[The9]

Also unlike us no other team in the PL have lost 5 first team players

 

Of course, this is tangible cobblers - even taking out the borderline cases the following sides have lost 5 players who regularly featured in their match day squads as often as the likes of Chambers or Osvaldo did, and sides like Man City and QPR have released far more fringe players too.

 

Arsenal

Lukasz Fabianski (Swansea City) Free

Bacary Sagna (Manchester City) Free

Nicklas Bendtner Released

Chu Young Park Released

Carl Jenkinson (West Ham United) Loan

 

Chelsea

Ashley Cole (Roma) Free

Samuel Eto'o Released

Frank Lampard (New York City) Free

Demba Ba (Besiktas) Undisclosed

Romelu Lukaku (Everton) £28m

 

Manchester United

Rio Ferdinand (QPR) Free

Ryan Giggs Released

Nemanja Vidic (Inter Milan) Free

Alexander Buttner (Dynamo Moscow) Undisclosed

Patrice Evra (Juventus) Undisclosed

 

Sunderland

Phil Bardsley (Stoke City) Free

Craig Gardner (West Bromwich Albion) Free

Carlos Cuellar Released

Andrea Dossena Released

Oscar Ustari Released

David Vaughan Released

Kieren Westwood Released

Jack Colback (Newcastle United) Free

 

Swansea

Leroy Lita Released

Michu (Napoli) Loan

Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed

Michel Vorm (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed

Alejandro Pozuelo (Rayo Vallecano) Undisclosed

 

West Brom

Billy Jones (Sunderland) Free

Nicolas Anelka Released

Zoltan Gera Released

Diego Lugano Released

Liam Ridgewell Released

Steven Reid (Burnley) Free

 

West Ham

Joe Cole (Aston Villa) Free

Jack Collison Released

George McCartney Released

Matt Taylor (Burnley) Free

[Toon Saint]

Very positive news conference. Looks like we could realistically end up with both this guy and Rojo.

 

Ronald looked REALLY ****ed off in the presser. Horrible tension in the air. Something nasty is going on behind the scenes...

 

Quite divergent views. Didn't get to watch the presser, so any body language experts in the house to confirm whether Ron was very positive or really ****ed off?

[The9]

Quite divergent views. Didn't get to watch the presser, so any body language experts in the house to confirm whether Ron was very positive or really ****ed off?

 

He looked about as reserved as he usually does, to me.

[SuperSAINT]

In my mind he's already gone to be honest. I'm not all that fussed now.

 

No doubt he wants to go, but the difference is Spurs are unlikely to offer massive amounts for him (such is the way with Levy)

[shurlock]

Of course, this is tangible cobblers - even taking out the borderline cases the following sides have lost 5 players who regularly featured in their match day squads as often as the likes of Chambers or Osvaldo did, and sides like Man City and QPR have released far more fringe players too.

 

Arsenal

Lukasz Fabianski (Swansea City) Free

Bacary Sagna (Manchester City) Free

Nicklas Bendtner Released

Chu Young Park Released

Carl Jenkinson (West Ham United) Loan

 

Chelsea

Ashley Cole (Roma) Free

Samuel Eto'o Released

Frank Lampard (New York City) Free

Demba Ba (Besiktas) Undisclosed

Romelu Lukaku (Everton) £28m

 

Manchester United

Rio Ferdinand (QPR) Free

Ryan Giggs Released

Nemanja Vidic (Inter Milan) Free

Alexander Buttner (Dynamo Moscow) Undisclosed

Patrice Evra (Juventus) Undisclosed

 

Sunderland

Phil Bardsley (Stoke City) Free

Craig Gardner (West Bromwich Albion) Free

Carlos Cuellar Released

Andrea Dossena Released

Oscar Ustari Released

David Vaughan Released

Kieren Westwood Released

Jack Colback (Newcastle United) Free

 

Swansea

Leroy Lita Released

Michu (Napoli) Loan

Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed

Michel Vorm (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed

Alejandro Pozuelo (Rayo Vallecano) Undisclosed

 

West Brom

Billy Jones (Sunderland) Free

Nicolas Anelka Released

Zoltan Gera Released

Diego Lugano Released

Liam Ridgewell Released

Steven Reid (Burnley) Free

 

West Ham

Joe Cole (Aston Villa) Free

Jack Collison Released

George McCartney Released

Matt Taylor (Burnley) Free

 

Have you gone all MLG? He's made an art of stating the tortuously obvious to be trivially correct. You know what the point was regards the quality and importance of those departed players to our team.

 

Or at least, I hope you do - if not, you might have full-blown MLG.

 

And yes the poster is incorrect - we've lost six players....

Edited 8 August, 2014 by shurlock

[Smirking_Saint]

Of course, this is tangible cobblers - even taking out the borderline cases the following sides have lost 5 players who regularly featured in their match day squads as often as the likes of Chambers or Osvaldo did, and sides like Man City and QPR have released far more fringe players too.

 

Arsenal

Lukasz Fabianski (Swansea City) Free

Bacary Sagna (Manchester City) Free

Nicklas Bendtner Released

Chu Young Park Released

Carl Jenkinson (West Ham United) Loan

 

Chelsea

Ashley Cole (Roma) Free

Samuel Eto'o Released

Frank Lampard (New York City) Free

Demba Ba (Besiktas) Undisclosed

Romelu Lukaku (Everton) £28m

 

Manchester United

Rio Ferdinand (QPR) Free

Ryan Giggs Released

Nemanja Vidic (Inter Milan) Free

Alexander Buttner (Dynamo Moscow) Undisclosed

Patrice Evra (Juventus) Undisclosed

 

Sunderland

Phil Bardsley (Stoke City) Free

Craig Gardner (West Bromwich Albion) Free

Carlos Cuellar Released

Andrea Dossena Released

Oscar Ustari Released

David Vaughan Released

Kieren Westwood Released

Jack Colback (Newcastle United) Free

 

Swansea

Leroy Lita Released

Michu (Napoli) Loan

Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed

Michel Vorm (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed

Alejandro Pozuelo (Rayo Vallecano) Undisclosed

 

West Brom

Billy Jones (Sunderland) Free

Nicolas Anelka Released

Zoltan Gera Released

Diego Lugano Released

Liam Ridgewell Released

Steven Reid (Burnley) Free

 

West Ham

Joe Cole (Aston Villa) Free

Jack Collison Released

George McCartney Released

Matt Taylor (Burnley)

 

 

Of all those players the only real first team regulars, that are consistant with our big losses would be;

 

Sagna - replaced by debuchy

Vidic - as of now unreplaced

Evra - replaced by shaw

Eto'o - replaced by costa

 

So no, its not quite the same

[Whitey Grandad]

6 Weeks? Our "world famous recruitment department" could have made his job a bit easier too.

 

True, they could. Wasn't he on holiday for a while? I would expect they waved a list in front if him first though.

[Toon Saint]

He looked about as reserved as he usually does, to me.

 

Cheers, expected as much.

[Saint Matty 76]

Anyone thinking that these Gardos rumours are put in place to get Sporting to hurry up and make a decision on Rojo? Obviously it'd be great to sign both but I don't think that'll be the case at all.

[Beckenham Saint]

Of all those players the only real first team regulars, that are consistant with our big losses would be;

 

Sagna - replaced by debuchy

Vidic - as of now unreplaced

Evra - replaced by shaw

Eto'o - replaced by costa

 

So no, its not quite the same

 

 

Well, apart from Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Demba Ba, Rio Ferdinand, Alexander Buttner, Phil Bardsley, Craig Gardner, Jack Colback, Ben Davies, Michel Vorm. Alejandro Pozuelo, Billy Jones, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Reid, Jack Collison and Matt Taylor, but yeah, I see where you're coming from.

[saint_ed]

Anyone thinking that these Gardos rumours are put in place to get Sporting to hurry up and make a decision on Rojo? Obviously it'd be great to sign both but I don't think that'll be the case at all.

 

Nope, I think its past that now. I really do hope we end up with Rojo as well but I think it'll be one or the other.

[Window Cleaner]

Anyone thinking that these Gardos rumours are put in place to get Sporting to hurry up and make a decision on Rojo? Obviously it'd be great to sign both but I don't think that'll be the case at all.

 

Well no, we'll be signing him I expect, that's what the Romanians are saying isn't it. Unless of course they know that he had his medical yesterday and are just assuming that to be the last step before actually signing for the club. Honestly I don't think Rojo wants to play for us at all, hope I'm wrong there though.

[Goatboy]

Well, apart from Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Demba Ba, Rio Ferdinand, Alexander Buttner, Phil Bardsley, Craig Gardner, Jack Colback, Ben Davies, Michel Vorm. Alejandro Pozuelo, Billy Jones, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Reid, Jack Collison and Matt Taylor, but yeah, I see where you're coming from.

 

[Roger]

Are we still trying to get a other centre forward or winger? And what about cover for Clyne?

[Greenridge]

Well, apart from Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Demba Ba, Rio Ferdinand, Alexander Buttner, Phil Bardsley, Craig Gardner, Jack Colback, Ben Davies, Michel Vorm. Alejandro Pozuelo, Billy Jones, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Reid, Jack Collison and Matt Taylor, but yeah, I see where you're coming from.

 

Mmm I would say you're on dodgy there. He was comparing the impact on the respective teams that our outgoings had on ours. Many of those you've highlighted were not regular first teamers let alone in the top 5/6 key players.

[The9]

Have you gone all MLG? He's made an art of stating the tortuously obvious to be trivially correct. You know what the point was regards the quality and importance of those departed players to our team.

 

Or at least, I hope you do - if not, you might have full-blown MLG.

 

And yes the poster is incorrect - we've lost six players....

 

Actually you've forgotten Fox and Guly as well.

 

The point he was making was that no other side has lost 5 starters. Well, using those criteria, either we haven't, or that lot have too.

[shurlock]

Mmm I would say you're on dodgy there. He was comparing the impact on the respective teams that our outgoings had on ours. Many of those you've highlighted were not regular first teamers let alone in the top 5/6 key players.

 

Dodgy is being charitable.

[The9]

Of all those players the only real first team regulars, that are consistant with our big losses would be;

 

Sagna - replaced by debuchy

Vidic - as of now unreplaced

Evra - replaced by shaw

Eto'o - replaced by costa

 

So no, its not quite the same

 

Would be nice if your point wasn't complete nonsense.

[Smirking_Saint]

Well, apart from Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Demba Ba, Rio Ferdinand, Alexander Buttner, Phil Bardsley, Craig Gardner, Jack Colback, Ben Davies, Michel Vorm. Alejandro Pozuelo, Billy Jones, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Reid, Jack Collison and Matt Taylor, but yeah, I see where you're coming from.

 

Yeah I missed the part they were all major players for their respected clubs last year considering most played around half or less of their games I reckon.

 

Still, i see where you are coming from, well done for completely missing my point

[Smirking_Saint]

Would be nice if your point wasn't complete nonsense.

 

Really ? None of the rest were as influential as lambert, lallana, lovren who were all major players past year

[Beckenham Saint]

Mmm I would say you're on dodgy there. He was comparing the impact on the respective teams that our outgoings had on ours. Many of those you've highlighted were not regular first teamers let alone in the top 5/6 key players.

 

Well, Lampard had 26 appearances in the league, Cole 17, Ba 19, Ferdinand 14, Buttner only 8, Bardsley 26, Gardner 18, Colback 32, Davies 34, Vorm 26, Pozuelo 22, Jones 21, Ridgewell 33, Reid 16, Collison 9 and Taylor 20 so only Buttner and Collison out of the lot had less than 10 apps and the rest were always in or around the first team squad and 9 of them had 20 or more appearances (pretty regular IMO)...

[Beckenham Saint]

Yeah I missed the part they were all major players for their respected clubs last year considering most played around half or less of their games I reckon.

 

Still, i see where you are coming from, well done for completely missing my point

 

See my post above

[CityRanger]

Whats all this nonsense got to do with transfer rumours?

[Saint Without a Halo]

Have you gone all MLG? He's made an art of stating the tortuously obvious to be trivially correct. You know what the point was regards the quality and importance of those departed players to our team.

 

Or at least, I hope you do - if not, you might have full-blown MLG.

 

And yes the poster is incorrect - we've lost six players....

 

seven if you add Guly who is at least equal to some of the above listed!

[Smirking_Saint]

Well, Lampard had 26 appearances in the league, Cole 17, Ba 19, Ferdinand 14, Buttner only 8, Bardsley 26, Gardner 18, Colback 32, Davies 34, Vorm 26, Pozuelo 22, Jones 21, Ridgewell 33, Reid 16, Collison 9 and Taylor 20 so only Buttner and Collison out of the lot had less than 10 apps and the rest were always in or around the first team squad and 9 of them had 20 or more appearances (pretty regular IMO)...

 

So of a 38 game season they only really played around half or less then half ?

 

Thanks for doing the hard work to prove my point

[Greenridge]

See my post above

 

You have indeed missed the point but we are digressing from the thread.

[Saint IQ]

Of all those players the only real first team regulars, that are consistant with our big losses would be;

 

Sagna - replaced by debuchy

Vidic - as of now unreplaced

Evra - replaced by shaw

Eto'o - replaced by costa

 

So no, its not quite the same

 

Vorm? Ben Davies? Michu?

[Block34]

So are we going to sign 2-bob or is it just so much smoke and mirrors?

[Beckenham Saint]

So of a 38 game season they only really played around half or less then half ?

 

Thanks for doing the hard work to prove my point

 

 

Half would be 19, right? So 10 of those I listed played half or more, and 6 of those played 25 games or more with only 6 of my list playing less than half the games. I'd say the majority of those I listed initially were first team regulars last season...

[Pastor Patrón]

Half would be 19, right? So 10 of those I listed played half or more, and 6 of those played 25 games or more with only 6 of my list playing less than half the games. I'd say the majority of those I listed initially were first team regulars last season...

 

I get 3 posts a day, I'm happy to use the two that remain to call you an absolute retard.

[Beckenham Saint]

I get 3 posts a day, I'm happy to use the two that remain to call you an absolute retard.

 

You get 3 too many, IMO...

[Smirking_Saint]

Vorm? Ben Davies? Michu?

 

Vorm only made 26 appearances, michu was mercurial last year (injured ?) but ben davies, yes, I missed him

[Smirking_Saint]

Half would be 19, right? So 10 of those I listed played half or more, and 6 of those played 25 games or more with only 6 of my list playing less than half the games. I'd say the majority of those I listed initially were first team regulars last season...

 

There really isnt much point argueing about trivialities with you, you have missed the point by such a margin Im surprised we arent argueing about basketball.

 

If you really believe, for instance, that Lampard, a man that chelsea willingly let go on a free and despite maybe playing 26 games (a little over half) of which Id argue the majority of which were sub appearances, is a bigger loss to chelsea then lallana is to us then you are very very wrong

[Beckenham Saint]

There really isnt much point argueing about trivialities with you, you have missed the point by such a margin Im surprised we arent argueing about basketball.

 

If you really believe, for instance, that Lampard, a man that chelsea willingly let go on a free and despite maybe playing 26 games (a little over half) of which Id argue the majority of which were sub appearances, is a bigger loss to chelsea then lallana is to us then you are very very wrong

 

I get your point completely, I'm just winding down the clock in the office whilst trying to still look busy.

 

I know none of them were as big a loss as our own (and I'm only counting Lovren, Lallana and Shaw in that, possibly Chambers as it's entirely reasonable to consider that Lambert wouldn't have been our main striker this year anyway, given that we tried to replace him last year and reports we tried to sell him in January), but, I was just pointing out that in the list of four players you picked out and said they were the only players that were first team regulars that left was wide of the mark. I don't particularly care about what I'm arguing here, nor does it matter to me, I'm just pleased that my boss thinks I'm typing away more than anyone else is this afternoon!

[igsey]

There really isnt much point argueing about trivialities with you, you have missed the point by such a margin Im surprised we arent argueing about basketball.

 

If you really believe, for instance, that Lampard, a man that chelsea willingly let go on a free and despite maybe playing 26 games (a little over half) of which Id argue the majority of which were sub appearances, is a bigger loss to chelsea then lallana is to us then you are very very wrong

 

Personally I would argue that this thread is titled 'TRANSFER RUMOURS ONLY' and that's not a transfer rumour, so please kindly take your inane babbling elsewhere.

 

I assume K Billy/Monk/Guan have nothing more for us?

[Pancake]

I always did think Beckers was a sound chap.

[Smirking_Saint]

I get your point completely, I'm just winding down the clock in the office whilst trying to still look busy.

 

I know none of them were as big a loss as our own (and I'm only counting Lovren, Lallana and Shaw in that, possibly Chambers as it's entirely reasonable to consider that Lambert wouldn't have been our main striker this year anyway, given that we tried to replace him last year and reports we tried to sell him in January), but, I was just pointing out that in the list of four players you picked out and said they were the only players that were first team regulars that left was wide of the mark. I don't particularly care about what I'm arguing here, nor does it matter to me, I'm just pleased that my boss thinks I'm typing away more than anyone else is this afternoon!

 

fair enough

[Smirking_Saint]

Personally I would argue that this thread is titled 'TRANSFER RUMOURS ONLY' and that's not a transfer rumour, so please kindly take your inane babbling elsewhere.

 

I assume K Billy/Monk/Guan have nothing more for us?

 

If you look to the right theres a bar that scrolls up or down, I find it useful when skipping past certain posts containing a majority of ******** of which yours normally fall into the category of !

 

HTH

[Mallagroth]

I get your point completely, I'm just winding down the clock in the office whilst trying to still look busy.

 

I know none of them were as big a loss as our own (and I'm only counting Lovren, Lallana and Shaw in that, possibly Chambers as it's entirely reasonable to consider that Lambert wouldn't have been our main striker this year anyway, given that we tried to replace him last year and reports we tried to sell him in January), but, I was just pointing out that in the list of four players you picked out and said they were the only players that were first team regulars that left was wide of the mark. I don't particularly care about what I'm arguing here, nor does it matter to me, I'm just pleased that my boss thinks I'm typing away more than anyone else is this afternoon!

 

[SB]

Interesting listening to Sean Dyche earlier on TalkSport. He was talking about how difficult it is to get transfer deals done in the Premiership. Sounds like we are not the only ones having trouble getting our targets in.

 

Are you the same person that has the 'boring James Milner' account on twitter?

[Whitey Grandad]

I get your point completely, I'm just winding down the clock in the office whilst trying to still look busy.

 

I know none of them were as big a loss as our own (and I'm only counting Lovren, Lallana and Shaw in that, possibly Chambers as it's entirely reasonable to consider that Lambert wouldn't have been our main striker this year anyway, given that we tried to replace him last year and reports we tried to sell him in January), but, I was just pointing out that in the list of four players you picked out and said they were the only players that were first team regulars that left was wide of the mark. I don't particularly care about what I'm arguing here, nor does it matter to me, I'm just pleased that my boss thinks I'm typing away more than anyone else is this afternoon!

 

Is your boss a Saints fan and does he drop in on this forum?

[cobbysouth]

Beckenham saint this is your boss. Youre fired!