Transfer Rumours Only

[brett24]

If that's the benchmark for being considered a good signing then altidore would be a great buy.

 

A striker who hasn't looked out of his depth playing in the Champ league or for the national side, think your being a bit harsh.

[Polaroid Saint]

The issue is whether or not our Owner wants to spend any of the Transfer Haul, now stashed away in a Swiss Bank Account

 

You really have NO IDEA about football finances do you? Or even the corporate structure of the club you claim to 'support'? If you did you would not post such childish nonsense (I appreciate you may actually BE a child, in which case I apologise).

[ratio_decidendi]

You really have NO IDEA about football finances do you? Or even the corporate structure of the club you claim to 'support'? If you did you would not post such childish nonsense (I appreciate you may actually BE a child, in which case I apologise).

 

Don't bother - the guy is either a troll or retarded.

[Colinjb]

Don't bother - the guy is either a troll or retarded.

 

A troll that uses multiple usernames to stir as proven by this inadvertent arguing with itself. Put it on ignore.

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50215-The-New-Manager-Thread&p=1957533#post1957533

 

The only question is what are the other identities?

[Redslo]

You really have NO IDEA about football finances do you? Or even the corporate structure of the club you claim to 'support'? If you did you would not post such childish nonsense (I appreciate you may actually BE a child, in which case I apologise).

 

To be fair, Southampton FC may use a swiss bank account for some reason.

 

And Altidore is better than he seemed at Sunderland. I can't help but wonder how his season would have been different if the referee hadn't called back his amazing goal last fall. Of course, he would not be right for us because he needs to go someplace where he will be the number one striker.

[ratio_decidendi]

A troll that uses multiple usernames to stir as proven by this inadvertent arguing with itself. Put it on ignore.

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50215-The-New-Manager-Thread&p=1957533#post1957533

 

The only question is what are the other identities?

 

I'd heard about that but didn't actually see the thread in question until now. The length some people will go for attention (no matter how inconsequential) is remarkable.

[Polaroid Saint]

To be fair, Southampton FC may use a swiss bank account for some reason.

 

And Altidore is better than he seemed at Sunderland. I can't help but wonder how his season would have been different if the referee hadn't called back his amazing goal last fall. Of course, he would not be right for us because he needs to go someplace where he will be the number one striker.

 

The football club possibly, Mali for sure, DMWSLML90210 of course, KL no doubt, But the owner taking money directly out of the club, no!

 

Please don't give any creedance to SaintRichmond, that is not what he meant!

[cambsaint]

DT suggests that Atletico Madrid are in for Hernandez, if so what little chance we may have had has gone.

[Dan Johnson]

To be honest, I still expect the majority of transfers to come after the season starts\closer to deadline day.

 

I know we're crying out to sign players before the Liverpool game but I don't think Liverpools signings will have much of an impact on the opening day.

 

Lallana - Injuryed out for the game

Lovern - Not trained with the first team squad yet, wont until end of this week not much time to prepare for saints game

Lambert - We know his game. Strengthens & Weaknesses, maybe fatigued after the World Cup.

Divock Origi - Loaned back to Lille

 

It's only Emre Can & Lazar Markovic who've been added to the squad and had time to adapted to the way Liverpool want to play. Manquillo is likely to come too late to make an impact in time for the Saints game.

 

After losing Suarez & with the likes of Gerrard\Sterling\Sturridge\Johnson only having had 3 weeks off I don't see us being walked over.

 

We then have West Brom at home & West Ham away before the window shuts, I'm not concerned with either of those fixtures.

 

I'd rather we wait and get the right players in, then sign just to appease the fans

[Viking Warrior]

Another predictable day on Saints Transfer thread,

 

 

Guantanamera , We are about to sign Philipp Lahm, from Bayern Munich, and Neymar from Barcelona,

:):):)

 

Hypo

What are we buying these two for , they are no better than what we already have. god we have a load of tosh sitting on the bench

 

Batman , Stupid signing we should have kept shaw and Lallana

 

Saint Richmond , Is that all the club can afford, I told you the club were stashing away the money and are about to sell the club

 

Saint Charlie Would be nice to get some more English players in , instead of the foriegn money grabbing players

 

Viking Warrior , Brilliant Signings , who needs Adam who and Luke (Im not sure if he is going to be any good) shaw

[Greenridge]

I'd rather we wait and get the right players in, then sign just to appease the fans

 

We've waited quite a long time already. I admire your optimism that we can give Liverpool a run for their money on opening day. I hope you're right............

[sfc6mufc3]

Rodwell - another person we are linked with and doesn't end up with us - we will be left with 17 year old Man Utd fringe players!

[Lallana's Left Peg]

Rodwell - another person we are linked with and doesn't end up with us - we will be left with 17 year old Man Utd fringe players!

 

We really didn't need him though, can't say I am bothered whatsoever about this.

[Foxstone]

Rodwell - another person we are linked with and doesn't end up with us - we will be left with 17 year old Man Utd fringe players!

 

Rodwell is too much of a risk anyway - Not played much and rather "injury prone".

He has the ability to re-invent his career, but as for adding anything to us from the off, then he would not have so I'm not unhappy we missed out on him.

[The9]

As examined eleswhere, aren't the wages limited by FFP?

 

They are, but having sold 5 players we're nowhere near the cap. The only proof I need that we're not close to it is that Gaston hasn't been sold.

[Dan Johnson]

We've waited quite a long time already. I admire your optimism that we can give Liverpool a run for their money on opening day. I hope you're right............

 

Having friends in the professional game, I have a slight insight to how it works.

 

Players will wait till the last minute to ensure something better doesn't come along, hence the mad rush before the window closes and why there's always at least 1 big story on transfer deadline day.

 

Also the pure logistics of signings is rarely thought of, players coming from abroad are at the mercy of chartered flights the need for interpreters during their negotiations, somewhere to stay etc etc, there's also mountains and mountains of paper work & if a player is using a popular football agent then that paperwork & the legal paperwork can get held up for considerable time.

 

I was told this by a Chelsea scout who had links to grass roots football in Southampton, echoed by others I know in the game both currently working at St Marys & others who have played.

 

Imagine you’re selling\buying an average footballer & you’re using a popular football agent.

 

That agent is also going to be dealing with 10, 20, 30 other moves at the same time. All of those players are of varying ability. The agent, naturally, will concentrate on pushing the larger transfers through first as that’s where he makes his biggest commission so smaller deals can take allot longer to complete. Of course that’s in relative terms. If the agent has a £30million transfer going through then a £15milion transfer is still "smaller"

 

It’s a bit like buying a house in some respects, once whoever is doing the Initial negotiations to buy a player (in our case Les Reed) has agreed a fee with the same person at the selling club then they don’t have much more to do with the transfer until the player is at the buying club for talks. It's just as frustrating for them as they sit around and wait for updates from solicitors\legal teams etc.

 

Some selling clubs won’t release a player for talks with a buying club until a proposed payment structure is in place, in which case the buying clubs financial director will work with the buying clubs legal team, make a proposal to the selling club, which is usual sent back with amendments & then a legal back & forth could potentially last up to 2 weeks. (much the same as when you're buying a house) During that time if the media get wind of the move then it alerts other clubs, players are then linked in the media to other buying clubs (even if the rumour is unsubstantiated) and the player could then choose to delay talks to see if something better materialises. Of course clever agents at this stage may decided to leak stories to flush out other clubs, especially if the player isn't that keen on the move to the original club.

 

There is also allot of back and forth with the players legal representative & the buying clubs legal representative with concerns to player contracts, once the player is eventually at the club for talks. The player is rarely involved in these Negotiations , often it is the agent that will tell the player "I can get you 30k a week" so the agent will speak with the players legal representative who in turn talks with the buying clubs legal team & a player contract is then thrashed out, Image rights etc being the main hang up these days. The agents fee will normally be determined by whether the player does get the 30k a week he was promised plus cuts of image rights etc, so in most cases that negotiation is held up agents refusing to budge on the players demands (The player often having no knowledge of the reduced offer)

 

Medicals could then show up concerns which would require both amendments to how much the player is costing the club and subsequently the proposed payment plan & players contract as the club may want to mitigate a risk that has been thrown up. This will start the whole legal back & forth again.

 

That's in a nutshell too

 

Loans are (somewhat) simpler which is why they're becoming more popular

[jamesfp1]

I'd have thrown a right wobbler if we'd have signed Rodwell. Even worse than the wobbler I'll throw if we get Samaras.

 

Wobble.

[SaintRichmond]

The football club possibly, Mali for sure, DMWSLML90210 of course, KL no doubt, But the owner taking money directly out of the club, no!

 

Please don't give any creedance to SaintRichmond, that is not what he meant![/QUOTE]

 

 

God forbid that anything I say has any substance

 

We've actually bought loads of Quality players, but are not telling anyone

[Katalinic]

The football club possibly, Mali for sure, DMWSLML90210 of course, KL no doubt, But the owner taking money directly out of the club, no!

 

Please don't give any creedance to SaintRichmond, that is not what he meant![/QUOTE]

 

 

 

 

God forbid that anything I say has any substance

 

We've actually bought loads of Quality players, but are not telling anyone

 

It doesn't. You use multiple log ins for a reason.

[surrey1saint]

Having friends in the professional game, I have a slight insight to how it works.

 

Players will wait till the last minute to ensure something better doesn't come along, hence the mad rush before the window closes and why there's always at least 1 big story on transfer deadline day.

 

Also the pure logistics of signings is rarely thought of, players coming from abroad are at the mercy of chartered flights the need for interpreters during their negotiations, somewhere to stay etc etc, there's also mountains and mountains of paper work & if a player is using a popular football agent then that paperwork & the legal paperwork can get held up for considerable time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was told this by a Chelsea scout who had links to grass roots football in Southampton, echoed by others I know in the game both currently working at St Marys & others who have played.

 

Imagine you’re selling\buying an average footballer & you’re using a popular football agent.

 

That agent is also going to be dealing with 10, 20, 30 other moves at the same time. All of those players are of varying ability. The agent, naturally, will concentrate on pushing the larger transfers through first as that’s where he makes his biggest commission so smaller deals can take allot longer to complete. Of course that’s in relative terms. If the agent has a £30million transfer going through then a £15milion transfer is still "smaller"

 

It’s a bit like buying a house in some respects, once whoever is doing the Initial negotiations to buy a player (in our case Les Reed) has agreed a fee with the same person at the selling club then they don’t have much more to do with the transfer until the player is at the buying club for talks. It's just as frustrating for them as they sit around and wait for updates from solicitors\legal teams etc.

 

Some selling clubs won’t release a player for talks with a buying club until a proposed payment structure is in place, in which case the buying clubs financial director will work with the buying clubs legal team, make a proposal to the selling club, which is usual sent back with amendments & then a legal back & forth could potentially last up to 2 weeks. (much the same as when you're buying a house) During that time if the media get wind of the move then it alerts other clubs, players are then linked in the media to other buying clubs (even if the rumour is unsubstantiated) and the player could then choose to delay talks to see if something better materialises. Of course clever agents at this stage may decided to leak stories to flush out other clubs, especially if the player isn't that keen on the move to the original club.

 

There is also allot of back and forth with the players legal representative & the buying clubs legal representative with concerns to player contracts, once the player is eventually at the club for talks. The player is rarely involved in these Negotiations , often it is the agent that will tell the player "I can get you 30k a week" so the agent will speak with the players legal representative who in turn talks with the buying clubs legal team & a player contract is then thrashed out, Image rights etc being the main hang up these days. The agents fee will normally be determined by whether the player does get the 30k a week he was promised plus cuts of image rights etc, so in most cases that negotiation is held up agents refusing to budge on the players demands (The player often having no knowledge of the reduced offer)

 

Medicals could then show up concerns which would require both amendments to how much the player is costing the club and subsequently the proposed payment plan & players contract as the club may want to mitigate a risk that has been thrown up. This will start the whole legal back & forth again.

 

That's in a nutshell too

 

Loans are (somewhat) simpler which is why they're becoming more popular

Seems to make a lot of sense.

[thefuriousb]

Rodwell - another person we are linked with and doesn't end up with us - we will be left with 17 year old Man Utd fringe players!

 

Funny but when we were initially linked with Tadeer, Schelotto, Leroy Fer (even Classie) the line was "we are already well-stocked in that position. We need to sign 2 CBs" or the other splinter sell of 'glass half-emptyers would claim "This obviously means Morgan &/or Cork are off too".

 

So when a midfield player who has only been linked in passing joins another club it is 'another one we hae missed out on'.

 

Good grief!

[Bucks Saint]

Funny but when we were initially linked with Tadeer, Schelotto, Leroy Fer (even Classie) the line was "we are already well-stocked in that position. We need to sign 2 CBs" or the other splinter sell of 'glass half-emptyers would claim "This obviously means Morgan &/or Cork are off too".

 

So when a midfield player who has only been linked in passing joins another club it is 'another one we hae missed out on'.

 

Good grief!

 

Good news then. Despite concerns over the form of various players, this Forum is consistently delivering

[Sevvy]

Koeman might know that some of these players we are linked to, may be able to play in a different position than what they are playing now, so just because we may think we have too many players for a particular position R.K. may have other ideas, just thinking out loud,

[Beckenham Saint]

Funny but when we were initially linked with Tadeer, Schelotto, Leroy Fer (even Classie) the line was "we are already well-stocked in that position. We need to sign 2 CBs" or the other splinter sell of 'glass half-emptyers would claim "This obviously means Morgan &/or Cork are off too".

 

So when a midfield player who has only been linked in passing joins another club it is 'another one we hae missed out on'.

 

Good grief!

 

Why let self-contradiction get in the way of a good old moan, though, eh?

 

 

I seriously doubt we were ever in for Rodwell. Just because the press put his name in an article about us doesn't mean we were ever actually looking. Perhaps we were, who knows, but I doubt it.

[Bucks Saint]

Koeman might know that some of these players we are linked to, may be able to play in a different position than what they are playing now, so just because we may think we have too many players for a particular position R.K. may have other ideas, just thinking out loud,

 

Steady now, the manager may know what he is doing and knows a huge amount more than posters on here? Infraction for you

[Mallagroth]

Another predictable day on Saints Transfer thread,

 

 

Guantanamera , We are about to sign Philipp Lahm, from Bayern Munich, and Neymar from Barcelona,

:):):)

 

Hypo

What are we buying these two for , they are no better than what we already have. god we have a load of tosh sitting on the bench

 

Batman , Stupid signing we should have kept shaw and Lallana

 

Saint Richmond , Is that all the club can afford, I told you the club were stashing away the money and are about to sell the club

 

Saint Charlie Would be nice to get some more English players in , instead of the foriegn money grabbing players

 

Viking Warrior , Brilliant Signings , who needs Adam who and Luke (Im not sure if he is going to be any good) shaw

 

With 3 1/2 weeks to go here is the ratings:

 

Hypo: Very solid trolling from an all season favourite. Is strongest in the wake of lack of information and isn't the best at turning good news into bad like some of his competitors but when there is a sniff of something to flog the club with that's when he really gets up some steam, often posting two or three times in the space of a couple of minutes and getting in very early on most threads to turn it into his debate. Looking forward to him starting more of his own troll topics. Seen off the challenger in Saint Charlie and is now pushing Richmond for biggest WUM. 8/10

 

Batman: Came out fighting this preseason, the disappearance of Barry Sanchez has given his particular brand of trolling more limelight than he would normally get. Loves to get involved but often comes across as whining and his attempts are almost always too obvious. Championship standard trolling at best. 5/10

 

Saint Richmond: Again benefitting from the mods early crackdown on the veteran WUMs, he could have been romping away with the title for biggest troll if he hadn't been caught arguing with himself ,by ColinJB, after forgetting to log in as his contradictory ID. A solid season so far and can still take the prize if some good news comes out of the club he can spin to bad as Hypo gets thrown off course in these situations. 8/10.

 

Saint Charlie: Emerging talent. He came out of nowhere and seemed hell bent on claiming the title of mongboards biggest troll for himself but has recently dropped away as others have stepped up their game to put him in his place. This junior troll should have paced better and will need a miracle to take the title now, I'm sure it is something he will learn in time. 7/10

 

Heisenberg: Playing the long game, head down and waiting for his moment. As with Glasgow_Saint he knew how to run a marathon so we are all expecting big things when he starts to make his move. 2/10

Edited 5 August, 2014 by Mallagroth

[Wade Garrett]

Having friends in the professional game, I have a slight insight to how it works.

 

Players will wait till the last minute to ensure something better doesn't come along, hence the mad rush before the window closes and why there's always at least 1 big story on transfer deadline day.

 

Also the pure logistics of signings is rarely thought of, players coming from abroad are at the mercy of chartered flights the need for interpreters during their negotiations, somewhere to stay etc etc, there's also mountains and mountains of paper work & if a player is using a popular football agent then that paperwork & the legal paperwork can get held up for considerable time.

 

I was told this by a Chelsea scout who had links to grass roots football in Southampton, echoed by others I know in the game both currently working at St Marys & others who have played.

 

Imagine you’re selling\buying an average footballer & you’re using a popular football agent.

 

That agent is also going to be dealing with 10, 20, 30 other moves at the same time. All of those players are of varying ability. The agent, naturally, will concentrate on pushing the larger transfers through first as that’s where he makes his biggest commission so smaller deals can take allot longer to complete. Of course that’s in relative terms. If the agent has a £30million transfer going through then a £15milion transfer is still "smaller"

 

It’s a bit like buying a house in some respects, once whoever is doing the Initial negotiations to buy a player (in our case Les Reed) has agreed a fee with the same person at the selling club then they don’t have much more to do with the transfer until the player is at the buying club for talks. It's just as frustrating for them as they sit around and wait for updates from solicitors\legal teams etc.

 

Some selling clubs won’t release a player for talks with a buying club until a proposed payment structure is in place, in which case the buying clubs financial director will work with the buying clubs legal team, make a proposal to the selling club, which is usual sent back with amendments & then a legal back & forth could potentially last up to 2 weeks. (much the same as when you're buying a house) During that time if the media get wind of the move then it alerts other clubs, players are then linked in the media to other buying clubs (even if the rumour is unsubstantiated) and the player could then choose to delay talks to see if something better materialises. Of course clever agents at this stage may decided to leak stories to flush out other clubs, especially if the player isn't that keen on the move to the original club.

 

There is also allot of back and forth with the players legal representative & the buying clubs legal representative with concerns to player contracts, once the player is eventually at the club for talks. The player is rarely involved in these Negotiations , often it is the agent that will tell the player "I can get you 30k a week" so the agent will speak with the players legal representative who in turn talks with the buying clubs legal team & a player contract is then thrashed out, Image rights etc being the main hang up these days. The agents fee will normally be determined by whether the player does get the 30k a week he was promised plus cuts of image rights etc, so in most cases that negotiation is held up agents refusing to budge on the players demands (The player often having no knowledge of the reduced offer)

 

Medicals could then show up concerns which would require both amendments to how much the player is costing the club and subsequently the proposed payment plan & players contract as the club may want to mitigate a risk that has been thrown up. This will start the whole legal back & forth again.

 

That's in a nutshell too

 

Loans are (somewhat) simpler which is why they're becoming more popular

 

Other teams still get deals over the line a lot quicker, with the same hurdles in their way.

[Solid Saint]

With 3 1/2 weeks to go here is the ratings:

 

Hypo: Very solid trolling from an all season favourite. Is strongest in the wake of lack of information and isn't the best at turning good news into bad like some of his competitors but when there is a sniff of something to flog the club with that's when he really gets up some steam, often posting two or three times in the space of a couple of minutes and getting in very early on most threads to turn it into his debate. Looking forward to him starting more of his own troll topics. Seen off the challenger in Saint Charlie and is now pushing Richmond for biggest WUM. 8/10

 

Batman: Came out fighting this preseason, the disappearance of Barry Sanchez has given his particular brand of trolling more limelight than he would normally get. Loves to get involved but often comes across as whining and his attempts are almost always too obvious. Championship standard trolling at best. 5/10

 

Saint Richmond: Again benefitting from the mods early crackdown on the veteran WUMs, he could have been romping away with the title for biggest troll if he hadn't been caught arguing with himself ,by ColinJB, after forgetting to log in as his contradictory ID. A solid season so far and can still take the prize if some good news comes out of the club he can spin to bad as Hypo gets thrown off course in these situations. 8/10.

 

Saint Charlie: Emerging talent. He came out of nowhere and seemed hell bent on claiming the title of mongboards biggest troll for himself but has recently dropped away as others have stepped up their game to put him in his place. This junior troll should have paced better and will need a miracle to take the title now, I'm sure it is something he will learn in time. 7/10

 

Heisenberg: Playing the long game, head down and waiting for his moment. As with Glasgow_Saint he knew how to run a marathon so we are all expecting big things when he starts to make his move. 2/10

 

 

[thorpie the sinner]

With 3 1/2 weeks to go here is the ratings:

 

Hypo: Very solid trolling from an all season favourite. Is strongest in the wake of lack of information and isn't the best at turning good news into bad like some of his competitors but when there is a sniff of something to flog the club with that's when he really gets up some steam, often posting two or three times in the space of a couple of minutes and getting in very early on most threads to turn it into his debate. Looking forward to him starting more of his own troll topics. Seen off the challenger in Saint Charlie and is now pushing Richmond for biggest WUM. 8/10

 

Batman: Came out fighting this preseason, the disappearance of Barry Sanchez has given his particular brand of trolling more limelight than he would normally get. Loves to get involved but often comes across as whining and his attempts are almost always too obvious. Championship standard trolling at best. 5/10

 

Saint Richmond: Again benefitting from the mods early crackdown on the veteran WUMs, he could have been romping away with the title for biggest troll if he hadn't been caught arguing with himself ,by ColinJB, after forgetting to log in as his contradictory ID. A solid season so far and can still take the prize if some good news comes out of the club he can spin to bad as Hypo gets thrown off course in these situations. 8/10.

 

Saint Charlie: Emerging talent. He came out of nowhere and seemed hell bent on claiming the title of mongboards biggest troll for himself but has recently dropped away as others have stepped up their game to put him in his place. This junior troll should have paced better and will need a miracle to take the title now, I'm sure it is something he will learn in time. 7/10

 

Heisenberg: Playing the long game, head down and waiting for his moment. As with Glasgow_Saint he knew how to run a marathon so we are all expecting big things when he starts to make his move. 2/10

 

way to put a smile on my face this morning, what a wonderful assessment lol

[Goatboy]

With 3 1/2 weeks to go here is the ratings:

 

Hypo: Very solid trolling from an all season favourite. Is strongest in the wake of lack of information and isn't the best at turning good news into bad like some of his competitors but when there is a sniff of something to flog the club with that's when he really gets up some steam, often posting two or three times in the space of a couple of minutes and getting in very early on most threads to turn it into his debate. Looking forward to him starting more of his own troll topics. Seen off the challenger in Saint Charlie and is now pushing Richmond for biggest WUM. 8/10

 

Batman: Came out fighting this preseason, the disappearance of Barry Sanchez has given his particular brand of trolling more limelight than he would normally get. Loves to get involved but often comes across as whining and his attempts are almost always too obvious. Championship standard trolling at best. 5/10

 

Saint Richmond: Again benefitting from the mods early crackdown on the veteran WUMs, he could have been romping away with the title for biggest troll if he hadn't been caught arguing with himself ,by ColinJB, after forgetting to log in as his contradictory ID. A solid season so far and can still take the prize if some good news comes out of the club he can spin to bad as Hypo gets thrown off course in these situations. 8/10.

 

Saint Charlie: Emerging talent. He came out of nowhere and seemed hell bent on claiming the title of mongboards biggest troll for himself but has recently dropped away as others have stepped up their game to put him in his place. This junior troll should have paced better and will need a miracle to take the title now, I'm sure it is something he will learn in time. 7/10

 

Heisenberg: Playing the long game, head down and waiting for his moment. As with Glasgow_Saint he knew how to run a marathon so we are all expecting big things when he starts to make his move. 2/10

 

:lol:V.GOOD.

[Winchester Red]

Is anything happening..... anywhere.....?

 

I might have to join the ranks of the negative and pessimistic (although not the 'just sign anyone' brigade)

[simondo]

With 3 1/2 weeks to go here is the ratings:

 

Hypo: Very solid trolling from an all season favourite. Is strongest in the wake of lack of information and isn't the best at turning good news into bad like some of his competitors but when there is a sniff of something to flog the club with that's when he really gets up some steam, often posting two or three times in the space of a couple of minutes and getting in very early on most threads to turn it into his debate. Looking forward to him starting more of his own troll topics. Seen off the challenger in Saint Charlie and is now pushing Richmond for biggest WUM. 8/10

 

Batman: Came out fighting this preseason, the disappearance of Barry Sanchez has given his particular brand of trolling more limelight than he would normally get. Loves to get involved but often comes across as whining and his attempts are almost always too obvious. Championship standard trolling at best. 5/10

 

Saint Richmond: Again benefitting from the mods early crackdown on the veteran WUMs, he could have been romping away with the title for biggest troll if he hadn't been caught arguing with himself ,by ColinJB, after forgetting to log in as his contradictory ID. A solid season so far and can still take the prize if some good news comes out of the club he can spin to bad as Hypo gets thrown off course in these situations. 8/10.

 

Saint Charlie: Emerging talent. He came out of nowhere and seemed hell bent on claiming the title of mongboards biggest troll for himself but has recently dropped away as others have stepped up their game to put him in his place. This junior troll should have paced better and will need a miracle to take the title now, I'm sure it is something he will learn in time. 7/10

 

Heisenberg: Playing the long game, head down and waiting for his moment. As with Glasgow_Saint he knew how to run a marathon so we are all expecting big things when he starts to make his move. 2/10

 

 

AHHHH WHEN WE TRANSFER IN BETTER WUMS!!!!!! I CAN'T STAND THIS, THE BOARD IS TAKING ALL THE £5 AND HOARDING THEM - I HATE SAINTS, I HATE ANYBODY WHO IS A FAN AHHHH!!!!

 

 

[beavis17]

richard askam ‏@richaskam 19m

Unconfirmed but hear agreement reached for transfer of Celtic's Fraser Forster to Southampton...if Celtic go out of the Champions League

[DT]

Hoorah

[Heisenberg]

With 3 1/2 weeks to go here is the ratings:

 

Hypo: Very solid trolling from an all season favourite. Is strongest in the wake of lack of information and isn't the best at turning good news into bad like some of his competitors but when there is a sniff of something to flog the club with that's when he really gets up some steam, often posting two or three times in the space of a couple of minutes and getting in very early on most threads to turn it into his debate. Looking forward to him starting more of his own troll topics. Seen off the challenger in Saint Charlie and is now pushing Richmond for biggest WUM. 8/10

 

Batman: Came out fighting this preseason, the disappearance of Barry Sanchez has given his particular brand of trolling more limelight than he would normally get. Loves to get involved but often comes across as whining and his attempts are almost always too obvious. Championship standard trolling at best. 5/10

 

Saint Richmond: Again benefitting from the mods early crackdown on the veteran WUMs, he could have been romping away with the title for biggest troll if he hadn't been caught arguing with himself ,by ColinJB, after forgetting to log in as his contradictory ID. A solid season so far and can still take the prize if some good news comes out of the club he can spin to bad as Hypo gets thrown off course in these situations. 8/10.

 

Saint Charlie: Emerging talent. He came out of nowhere and seemed hell bent on claiming the title of mongboards biggest troll for himself but has recently dropped away as others have stepped up their game to put him in his place. This junior troll should have paced better and will need a miracle to take the title now, I'm sure it is something he will learn in time. 7/10

 

Heisenberg: Playing the long game, head down and waiting for his moment. As with Glasgow_Saint he knew how to run a marathon so we are all expecting big things when he starts to make his move. 2/10

 

 

Brilliant! However bit harsh of Heisenberg - I am a changed man

 

In fact reading Batmans / Hypos nonsense this past few weeks, realised just what a d1ck I was as Glasgow. We are all aware of the negativity, we dont need some clown reminding us every 2 minutes.

 

Ive met some pr1cks in my time, but Batman and Hypo are a couple of Cactus at the moment!!

[Foxstone]

richard askam ‏@richaskam 19m

Unconfirmed but hear agreement reached for transfer of Celtic's Fraser Forster to Southampton...if Celtic go out of the Champions League

 

Always likely that one, but Van Dijk is the one I really want to see.

[Heisenberg]

Always likely that one, but Van Dijk is the one I really want to see.

 

me too

[FloatingbridgeSaint]

Having friends in the professional game, I have a slight insight to how it works.

 

Players will wait till the last minute to ensure something better doesn't come along, hence the mad rush before the window closes and why there's always at least 1 big story on transfer deadline day.

 

Also the pure logistics of signings is rarely thought of, players coming from abroad are at the mercy of chartered flights the need for interpreters during their negotiations, somewhere to stay etc etc, there's also mountains and mountains of paper work & if a player is using a popular football agent then that paperwork & the legal paperwork can get held up for considerable time.

 

I was told this by a Chelsea scout who had links to grass roots football in Southampton, echoed by others I know in the game both currently working at St Marys & others who have played.

 

Imagine you’re selling\buying an average footballer & you’re using a popular football agent.

 

That agent is also going to be dealing with 10, 20, 30 other moves at the same time. All of those players are of varying ability. The agent, naturally, will concentrate on pushing the larger transfers through first as that’s where he makes his biggest commission so smaller deals can take allot longer to complete. Of course that’s in relative terms. If the agent has a £30million transfer going through then a £15milion transfer is still "smaller"

 

It’s a bit like buying a house in some respects, once whoever is doing the Initial negotiations to buy a player (in our case Les Reed) has agreed a fee with the same person at the selling club then they don’t have much more to do with the transfer until the player is at the buying club for talks. It's just as frustrating for them as they sit around and wait for updates from solicitors\legal teams etc.

 

Some selling clubs won’t release a player for talks with a buying club until a proposed payment structure is in place, in which case the buying clubs financial director will work with the buying clubs legal team, make a proposal to the selling club, which is usual sent back with amendments & then a legal back & forth could potentially last up to 2 weeks. (much the same as when you're buying a house) During that time if the media get wind of the move then it alerts other clubs, players are then linked in the media to other buying clubs (even if the rumour is unsubstantiated) and the player could then choose to delay talks to see if something better materialises. Of course clever agents at this stage may decided to leak stories to flush out other clubs, especially if the player isn't that keen on the move to the original club.

 

There is also allot of back and forth with the players legal representative & the buying clubs legal representative with concerns to player contracts, once the player is eventually at the club for talks. The player is rarely involved in these Negotiations , often it is the agent that will tell the player "I can get you 30k a week" so the agent will speak with the players legal representative who in turn talks with the buying clubs legal team & a player contract is then thrashed out, Image rights etc being the main hang up these days. The agents fee will normally be determined by whether the player does get the 30k a week he was promised plus cuts of image rights etc, so in most cases that negotiation is held up agents refusing to budge on the players demands (The player often having no knowledge of the reduced offer)

 

Medicals could then show up concerns which would require both amendments to how much the player is costing the club and subsequently the proposed payment plan & players contract as the club may want to mitigate a risk that has been thrown up. This will start the whole legal back & forth again.

 

That's in a nutshell too

 

Loans are (somewhat) simpler which is why they're becoming more popular

 

Interesting insight & explains a lot - thanks for taking the time to write this up & very much appreciated from this corner.

 

With regard to other clubs gutting deals done much quicker then i can only assume that either the player has very limited options, or it is a deal higher up the "food chain" or the player really does want to join that club i.e RL to liverpoo

[saint77]

me too

 

me to

[Saint_Ash]

We will get a centre back. I'm hoping it's done before the weekend. Seems Taider has competed his medical and is probably doing the Photo shoot and getting everything ready for 4pm. I then think we'll sign two more players on Thursday or Friday (after Celtic are dumped out of the Champs League qualification). Looking up...

[Whitey Grandad]

Other teams still get deals over the line a lot quicker, with the same hurdles in their way.

 

How do you know that?

[Whitey Grandad]

AHHHH WHEN WE TRANSFER IN BETTER WUMS!!!!!! I CAN'T STAND THIS, THE BOARD IS TAKING ALL THE £5 AND HOARDING THEM - I HATE SAINTS, I HATE ANYBODY WHO IS A FAN AHHHH!!!!

 

 

 

Loans would be better. Then we can try them out and if we don't like them we can send them back

[JoeShmoe]

 

Brilliant! However bit harsh of Heisenberg - I am a changed man

 

In fact reading Batmans / Hypos nonsense this past few weeks, realised just what a d1ck I was as Glasgow. We are all aware of the negativity, we dont need some clown reminding us every 2 minutes.

 

Ive met some pr1cks in my time, but Batman and Hypo are a couple of Cactus at the moment!!

 

Will you be able to resist opening post game threads with 5 mins to go though :-) Or will Batters or Charlie steal that crown as well - all to play for

[Danger Mouse]

I wish this thread was actually transfer rumours rather than the incessant bickering that makes up 90% of it's content.

[ratio_decidendi]

Loans would be better. Then we can try them out and if we don't like them we can send them back

 

They'd be the perfect way to develop up and coming trolls! Give them some viable competition and that...!

[thorpie the sinner]

Heard Vlaar yes, VVD no! Now looking like Vlaar no, VVD God knows, I love the Southampton riddle! Still think Maya and Jose would do a job if the absolute worst came to the absolute worst! And that would be slightly unusual even for saints

[Greenridge]

Loans would be better. Then we can try them out and if we don't like them we can send them back

 

You don't trust our 'excellent' scouting network then WG? Maybe Kat doesn't either.

[Wade Garrett]

Interesting insight & explains a lot - thanks for taking the time to write this up & very much appreciated from this corner.

 

With regard to other clubs gutting deals done much quicker then i can only assume that either the player has very limited options, or it is a deal higher up the "food chain" or the player really does want to join that club i.e RL to liverpoo

 

In a lot of cases yes, but look at the business that sides such as Hull have done.

[Wade Garrett]

How do you know that?

 

Because they've signed players!

[DT]

Come on Vlaar. Sign. You'll cut it down to 4-0 against Liverpool