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So last week came and went. Nothing. The weekend came and went. Nothing. Monday has come and (nearly) gone. Nothing.

 

Can I have some suggestions as to when I can cause my bedding some distress? I don't think my bladder will last to September One so any dates offered need to be ahead of this please.

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Just wondered if it is only me who is so disappointed fed up and disillusioned with Saints at the moment. Broken promise after broken promise i am so pi**ed off and angry with Saints at the moment. Total total letdown and Guan said judge after the 2 weeks and all that looks likely is a couple of loans. Pathetic rant over

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Just wondered if it is only me who is so disappointed fed up and disillusioned with Saints at the moment. Broken promise after broken promise i am so pi**ed off and angry with Saints at the moment. Total total letdown and Guan said judge after the 2 weeks and all that looks likely is a couple of loans. Pathetic rant over

 

Starting to feel a bit like that myself. Then I tell myself **** it this is Saints, so I am used to this.

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Just wondered if it is only me who is so disappointed fed up and disillusioned with Saints at the moment. Broken promise after broken promise i am so pi**ed off and angry with Saints at the moment. Total total letdown and Guan said judge after the 2 weeks and all that looks likely is a couple of loans. Pathetic rant over

 

more fool you for taking Guan seriously on the timelines at least, obviously the club were using him,they could have at least spluttered up his 5£. Seems that even he is disillusioned just now, well from his last few posts anyway. We will sign players, it's just taking longer than most of us would like.

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When are you going to grow up you tiresome fool? I've know. Cestrian Saint since he was a kid. Went to Sweden with him for the preseason tour in '04 & the JPT final where we were sat in the row in front of fellow TSF member John Boy Saint.

Yes, he's an eternal pessimist but so are others on this forum so why don't you give the lad a break and take your bully boy attitude back to the playground.

Lol... you are a skate too you class a joke! Simple post history outs all you scum.

 

**** heads

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Wanyama says a lot of new players coming in

 

"It is going to be tough because we have a lot of new players coming in and we have to gel well and I strongly believe this will need some time,” Wanyama told Goal. “It will not be easy as a club but we will need to work hard as a team and see how far we can go with our new signings. I think everything is in place (for a good season), it is normal in football because players come and go and our aim is to start the season on a sound note come August 16." http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2014/08/04/5004058/wanyama-expecting-tough-season-after-southampton-summer

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A few questions for those who are most critical of the Board - and especially those who are annoyed that we're signing players on loan rather than buying them, and those who seem to want us to spend the 70-90 million this summer:

 

If we're unable to sign our first (or second) choice players, for whatever reason, doesn't it make more sense to go with loanees where we reasonably can rather than blow the money on second or third choice players players who may not fit long-term with where we're going or Koeman's tactical style?

 

Wouldn't we be better to go with more of a holding pattern for now and keep a decent chunk of the 70-90 million up our sleeves to spend wisely when we're under less pressure?

 

Wouldn't such a policy reflect a better long term plan for the club than the notion of spending the bulk of the money now, just for the sake of it? (It seems rather ironic that Katharina and the Board may be showing more concern for the long term best interests of the Club than most of those who are denouncing them and accusing them of asset stripping, wanting to sell and so on.)

 

Sure, I'm nervous about the season ahead - but also fairly optimistic; our midfield engine room is reasonably intact and we've added some good players who might well be improvements on some that we've lost. A high quality CB (ideally two) would make the picture much rosier.

 

And Yes, I completely agree that the Board made some serious errors during the early summer, but that's no reason to keep blindly haranguing them when they may actually be doing the right thing now.

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A few questions for those who are most critical of the Board - and especially those who are annoyed that we're signing players on loan rather than buying them, and those who seem to want us to spend the 70-90 million this summer:

 

If we're unable to sign our first (or second) choice players, for whatever reason, doesn't it make more sense to go with loanees where we reasonably can rather than blow the money on second or third choice players players who may not fit long-term with where we're going or Koeman's tactical style?

 

Wouldn't we be better to go with more of a holding pattern for now and keep a decent chunk of the 70-90 million up our sleeves to spend wisely when we're under less pressure?

 

Wouldn't such a policy reflect a better long term plan for the club than the notion of spending the bulk of the money now, just for the sake of it? (It seems rather ironic that Katharina and the Board may be showing more concern for the long term best interests of the Club than most of those who are denouncing them and accusing them of asset stripping, wanting to sell and so on.)

 

Sure, I'm nervous about the season ahead - but also fairly optimistic; our midfield engine room is reasonably intact and we've added some good players who might well be improvements on some that we've lost. A high quality CB (ideally two) would make the picture much rosier.

 

And Yes, I completely agree that the Board made some serious errors during the early summer, but that's no reason to keep blindly haranguing them when they may actually be doing the right thing now.

 

I have no problem with loans, my problem is why we have left it until 1 friendly left to get the other replacement players in - what is stopping us signing them? Where is the problem - most footballers are mercenaries and will go where the money takes them.

So far I think the signings have been fine its just central defence and a striker that will score enough goals that worries me now.

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So last week came and went. Nothing. The weekend came and went. Nothing. Monday has come and (nearly) gone. Nothing.

 

Can I have some suggestions as to when I can cause my bedding some distress? I don't think my bladder will last to September One so any dates offered need to be ahead of this please.

 

We signed Bertrand last week?! :mcinnes:

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Specifically, if we had kept last year's team together, we would have been limited to total wage increases of approximately 4 million pounds. That would include the wages of new players, and pay increases for Cork and other players signing new contracts. Quite clearly, that would not have been enough money to improve the team. In other words, players had to be sold for a profit for the team to progress. I discuss this on my blog:

 

redsloscf.BlogSpot.com

 

 

An interesting point of view and certainly one worth consideration. Might fit in with why Cortese was against FFP and left the club and the statement from the new bloke about a 'difficult financial situation'. I'd need to read up a bit more on FFP though.

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A few questions for those who are most critical of the Board - and especially those who are annoyed that we're signing players on loan rather than buying them, and those who seem to want us to spend the 70-90 million this summer:

 

If we're unable to sign our first (or second) choice players, for whatever reason, doesn't it make more sense to go with loanees where we reasonably can rather than blow the money on second or third choice players players who may not fit long-term with where we're going or Koeman's tactical style?

 

Wouldn't we be better to go with more of a holding pattern for now and keep a decent chunk of the 70-90 million up our sleeves to spend wisely when we're under less pressure?

 

Wouldn't such a policy reflect a better long term plan for the club than the notion of spending the bulk of the money now, just for the sake of it? (It seems rather ironic that Katharina and the Board may be showing more concern for the long term best interests of the Club than most of those who are denouncing them and accusing them of asset stripping, wanting to sell and so on.)

 

Sure, I'm nervous about the season ahead - but also fairly optimistic; our midfield engine room is reasonably intact and we've added some good players who might well be improvements on some that we've lost. A high quality CB (ideally two) would make the picture much rosier.

 

And Yes, I completely agree that the Board made some serious errors during the early summer, but that's no reason to keep blindly haranguing them when they may actually be doing the right thing now.

 

Careful, far to sensible a view to be taken seriously on here. That said, I totally agree, next summer everyone will have forgotten what we'v got in the bank as it'll be someone else's turn. If we're going to spend the money then let'e make sure it's the right player for us. Which bring

 

I have no problem with loans, my problem is why we have left it until 1 friendly left to get the players in - what is stopping us signing them? Where is the problem - most footballers are mercenaries and will go where the money takes them.

So far I think the signings have been fine its just central defence and a striker that will score enough goals that worries me now.

 

Exactly the sort of player we should be taking our time and avoiding like the plague. I want to watch players who want to play for us, not who are happy to pick up a large pay packet from us. Otherwise we might just as well get Redflaps back in charge, at least we'd be guaranteed to spend £90m in two weeks.

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they're obviously finding it hard to conclude deals but I'm sure that they mean well, are doing their best and will get there in the end.

Have to agree with this despite the meltdown on here.

 

It cannot be easy enticing quality players to little ole soton. Lets get real people, Saints is not exactly the place footballers dream of playing for.

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Careful, far to sensible a view to be taken seriously on here. That said, I totally agree, next summer everyone will have forgotten what we'v got in the bank as it'll be someone else's turn. If we're going to spend the money then let'e make sure it's the right player for us. Which bring

 

 

 

Exactly the sort of player we should be taking our time and avoiding like the plague. I want to watch players who want to play for us, not who are happy to pick up a large pay packet from us. Otherwise we might just as well get Redflaps back in charge, at least we'd be guaranteed to spend £90m in two weeks.

 

Sorry let me clarify that - I meant most players have no loyalty and will go where the money is - we should be able to compete with most clubs with transfer fees and wages - I know we sold 5 of our best players but with Koeman think thats a big draw here.

How many player do you think that dont sign for the money? 10-15%?

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Just wondered if it is only me who is so disappointed fed up and disillusioned with Saints at the moment. Broken promise after broken promise i am so pi**ed off and angry with Saints at the moment. Total total letdown and Guan said judge after the 2 weeks and all that looks likely is a couple of loans. Pathetic rant over

 

I'm cool about it. Why all the panic? Why did everything have to be sorted by today? The window doesn't close for over 4 weeks.

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A few questions for those who are most critical of the Board - and especially those who are annoyed that we're signing players on loan rather than buying them, and those who seem to want us to spend the 70-90 million this summer:

 

If we're unable to sign our first (or second) choice players, for whatever reason, doesn't it make more sense to go with loanees where we reasonably can rather than blow the money on second or third choice players players who may not fit long-term with where we're going or Koeman's tactical style?

 

Wouldn't we be better to go with more of a holding pattern for now and keep a decent chunk of the 70-90 million up our sleeves to spend wisely when we're under less pressure?

 

Wouldn't such a policy reflect a better long term plan for the club than the notion of spending the bulk of the money now, just for the sake of it? (It seems rather ironic that Katharina and the Board may be showing more concern for the long term best interests of the Club than most of those who are denouncing them and accusing them of asset stripping, wanting to sell and so on.)

 

Sure, I'm nervous about the season ahead - but also fairly optimistic; our midfield engine room is reasonably intact and we've added some good players who might well be improvements on some that we've lost. A high quality CB (ideally two) would make the picture much rosier.

 

And Yes, I completely agree that the Board made some serious errors during the early summer, but that's no reason to keep blindly haranguing them when they may actually be doing the right thing now.

 

Interesting read but as of now we haven't even signed anyone on loan

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I'm cool about it. Why all the panic? Why did everything have to be sorted by today? The window doesn't close for over 4 weeks.

 

but the season starts in less than 2 weeks with the final friendly on saturday

we have some winable games in the next couple of weeks and to simply not give ourselves a better chance than we should is terrible

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Sorry let me clarify that - I meant most players have no loyalty and will go where the money is - we should be able to compete with most clubs with transfer fees and wages - I know we sold 5 of our best players but with Koeman think thats a big draw here.

How many player do you think that dont sign for the money? 10-15%?

 

As examined eleswhere, aren't the wages limited by FFP?

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Have to agree with this despite the meltdown on here.

 

It cannot be easy enticing quality players to little ole soton. Lets get real people, Saints is not exactly the place footballers dream of playing for.

The board get hammered if their targets aren't ambitious enough, but also get hammered if they struggle to tie down the sought after players.

 

How long did the transfers of ramirez and osvaldo take? And the time we put into those left the squad short elsewhere

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but the season starts in less than 2 weeks with the final friendly on saturday

we have some winable games in the next couple of weeks and to simply not give ourselves a better chance than we should is terrible

 

I sincerely hope we are not talking about must-win games before the season has started?

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As examined eleswhere, aren't the wages limited by FFP?

Do you think Pelle, Tadic and Bertrand will be on a lot more than their 3 counterparts that were sold plus Osvaldo wouldnt have been on minimum wage? Chambers and Shaw may not be on much - Guly wages saved as well. I think this FFP seems to be used as a cop out really what is the penalty for being over?

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We really don't need Roswell.

 

Last thing we need is the feds crawling all over St.Mary's

 

If an object seems to land in Hampshire carrying a load of footballers, note that it was not an object carrying a load of footballers to play at Southampton Football Club. It was in fact a weather balloon, just a weather balloon.

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Do you think Pelle, Tadic and Bertrand will be on a lot more than their 3 counterparts that were sold plus Osvaldo wouldnt have been on minimum wage? Chambers and Shaw may not be on much - Guly wages saved as well. I think this FFP seems to be used as a cop out really what is the penalty for being over?

 

Have you read the interesting posts on here this eve by Redslo? Worth a read.

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Saphir Taïder is landing in UK tonight, ticket paid for by Southampton FC. His move should be confirmed tomorrow.

 

And will probably replace the loyal and decent player which is Jack Cork. Would be nice if the squad was strengthened where it is weakest, which is NOT midfield.

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Do you think Pelle, Tadic and Bertrand will be on a lot more than their 3 counterparts that were sold plus Osvaldo wouldnt have been on minimum wage? Chambers and Shaw may not be on much - Guly wages saved as well. I think this FFP seems to be used as a cop out really what is the penalty for being over?

 

Osvaldo hasn't gone yet and if it falls through we would be stuck with him for a while. As for penalties I think it's fair to say that nobody knows yet. There are nine possibilities:

 

http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/resources/9%20sanctions.jpg.opt880x498o0%2C0s880x498.jpg

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