Granadino Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I don't know if this is new news but Tuttosport says that Taider is arriving today, Schelotto tomorrow: http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/calciomercato/2014/08/04-302604/Inter,+Mazzarri+accoglie+Osvaldo+e+attende+Medel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 how many of our intended incoming group have we actually missed out on ? A shed load I'd imagine. Even Samaras wants to see how the team looks before he signs (if accurate). Obviously in terms of attracting players we should have bought before we sold - but Im sure its not as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Harsh on Samaras in here tbf. I'm not sure I believe the story but he's a lot better than people are giving him credit for. His rep isn't great here but on his day he is unplayable at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Will we hear anything today, probably not, seems to me time is running out, all our first choices have probably gone somewhere else, we are now in panic mode, this is just my opinion, but the longer the time goes on, the more likely it will be the scenario . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I don't know if this is new news but Tuttosport says that Taider is arriving today, Schelotto tomorrow: http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/calciomercato/2014/08/04-302604/Inter,+Mazzarri+accoglie+Osvaldo+e+attende+Medel If they'd come on the same flight we could have saved on the taxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Harsh on Samaras in here tbf. I'm not sure I believe the story but he's a lot better than people are giving him credit for. His rep isn't great here but on his day he is unplayable at times. This coming from a member of the Wright fan bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Didn't Cortese flat out say "we do not believe in loans"? Ah, the times they are a changing. no that was Les Reed himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Samaras and Mitchell rumours could've been leaked by the club. Guan mentioned a while ago about us leaking rubbish targets to keep other clubs/ the press off the scent. Hence why I hope it'll actually be someone good who is announced today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Taking into account our striker set up at the moment, I'd take Samaras on a free to improve squad depth. Is he going to start every game? I doubt it. Is he actually any good? Good enough to get the odd goal and provide competition for Sam Gallagher. The guy will give options off the bench and we need that right now. "Competition for Sam Gallagher" isn't exactly a compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Samaras and Mitchell rumours could've been leaked by the club. Guan mentioned a while ago about us leaking rubbish targets to keep other clubs/ the press off the scent. Hence why I hope it'll actually be someone good who is announced today I am not convinced that the board are that sophisticated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Surely that's their whole idea with the academy player pathway? That's assuming that the club see Gallagher as ready to provide support to Pelle up until Rodriguez returns. Much better to give him someone to compete against like Samaras on a short term contract. It gives the opportunity to either player to step up and challenge for a position in the team - win-win with little risk. It also gives the squad depth in case Pelle were to get injured. It's comparable to the Bertrand/Targett situation except minus the loan aspect. The only way I can see Samaras being a waste of time is if a) Gallagher is ready to step up without the competition (judging on his performance, I doubt this), or b) the club decides to buy another big name striker like Hernandez (again, how likely is this?). "Competition for Sam Gallagher" isn't exactly a compliment. It's not meant to be. Samaras is hardly a superstar player, but if we give him the chance he might turn out to be a valuable (and cheap) asset for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Why? Its really not as bad as some make out. Tadic in for Lallana Pelle in for Lambert Bertrand in for Shaw We will sign a new CB this week (imo) to replace Lovren Chambers was unlikely to have started anyways. Agree with all this. I think we'll see a (quality) centre back come in this week, ideally two. If we also sign another forward as backup, then that's fine. Samaras may not be wonderful, but he'd be good backup if Pelle was injured and until Jay Rod comes back into contention. 2xCB 1xForward player 1xGK (lower priority) Sorted and possible, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 What ever happened to all those talented players identified by our scouts and desperate to join us then! Well it depends on whether you believe that or not - personally I don't believe a word Kruegar or Reed say - actions speak louder than words so why can't we get anything over the line? If you have the money we are alleged to have then its not as hard as we make it to be although its obvious when you sell your 5 best players then you become very unattractive especially if offering less wages than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I am not convinced that the board are that sophisticated. Nor am I, but I will continue to try and stay positive in the face of the despairing bedwetters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 That's assuming that the club see Gallagher as ready to provide support to Pelle up until Rodriguez returns. Much better to give him someone to compete against like Samaras on a short term contract. It gives the opportunity to either player to step up and challenge for a position in the team - win-win with little risk. It also gives the squad depth in case Pelle were to get injured. It's comparable to the Bertrand/Targett situation except minus the loan aspect. The only way I can see Samaras being a waste of time is if a) Gallagher is ready to step up without the competition (judging on his performance, I doubt this), or b) the club decides to buy another big name striker like Hernandez (again, how likely is this?). My comment was more in reference to Samaras tending to play a LW/LAM role in a similar way to Jayrod (without the pace). This just doesn't make sense, we are after better strikers and now play with recognised wingers of which Samaras isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 If they'd come on the same flight we could have saved on the taxi. And the flight, tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Well it depends on whether you believe that or not - personally I don't believe a word Kruegar or Reed say - actions speak louder than words so why can't we get anything over the line? If you have the money we are alleged to have then its not as hard as we make it to be although its obvious when you sell your 5 best players then you become very unattractive especially if offering less wages than others. Agreed especially as it seems according to some that all our players left chasing money! Well we have some money so why aren't we completing any deals? Possibly because 1) Players are reluctant to join us given the publicity of what is happening at the club and will wait till deadline day to see what other offers they might get 2) The selling clubas are holding us to ransom as they know we have money and need players Looks like we will be left with the players others don't want unless Koeman can use his contacts again to get players who will play for him rather than Saints as he did with Pelle and Tadic as both were unlikely to be on our list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Well it depends on whether you believe that or not - personally I don't believe a word Kruegar or Reed say - actions speak louder than words so why can't we get anything over the line? If you have the money we are alleged to have then its not as hard as we make it to be although its obvious when you sell your 5 best players then you become very unattractive especially if offering less wages than others. I don't think many of us believe a word they say anymore, which is sad. However, I DO think this team will currently do okay as there is so much dross in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Fancy that! Whoever decided to sell all our players without replacing them is boneheaded to say the least. This is true. At least have the replacements lined up. Sure, not all of them will want to come, but at the very least they should have sold the new vision to the incomings prior to flogging the family silver. To sell the players and then go out into the market with a bit of cash and say "Hi, can we buy your players" is so very naïve as to be laughable. But the Board appear to be no strangers to stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Georgios Samaras is an odd one on the surface, but he cdajfu. He is currently a free agent + only 29 (thought he was older) I've sen him a few times for Celtic and he is hit or miss, sometimes completely top drawer and others just complete nonsense. His hold up play is good however and he is strong on the ball, he can also play the lone striker role quite well. Can anyone remember the Claus Lundekvam testimonial in 2008? Samaras played that night and was outstanding - I appreciate that was against a v.poor Saints side, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 I see its Mongday Morning on SWF. When did the club make this promise of weekend signings? Samaras would add good squad depth which we need and bring experience with him which many used to moan we lacked. Realistically we aren't going to get current first teamers to come sit on ourbench so older pros and up and coming academy starlets is our next best option. I think if we get Taider and Samaras in we are starting to look the business. Just need GK, CB and preferably another 1st team winger/striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Harrison Reed now follows Arsenal and Spurs on Twitter.... Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 so is taider a loan? as some other posts seem to make out that he is more than a loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Harrison Reed now follows Arsenal and Spurs on Twitter.... Make of that what you will. Why would you tell us that? I could explain away Arsenal as following Chambers, Spurs for Poch? Trying to give us an aneurism otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Well it depends on whether you believe that or not - personally I don't believe a word Kruegar or Reed say - actions speak louder than words so why can't we get anything over the line? If you have the money we are alleged to have then its not as hard as we make it to be although its obvious when you sell your 5 best players then you become very unattractive especially if offering less wages than others. But we have got some over the line - three so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Georgios Samaras is an odd one on the surface, but he cdajfu. He is currently a free agent + only 29 (thought he was older) I've sen him a few times for Celtic and he is hit or miss, sometimes completely top drawer and others just complete nonsense. His hold up play is good however and he is strong on the ball, he can also play the lone striker role quite well. Can anyone remember the Claus Lundekvam testimonial in 2008? Samaras played that night and was outstanding - I appreciate that was against a v.poor Saints side, but still. http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/435606/Barcelona-eyeing-up-Celtic-forward-Georgios-Samaras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Harrison Reed now follows Arsenal and Spurs on Twitter.... Make of that what you will. Maybe he's interested in what they're having for tea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Harrison Reed now follows Arsenal and Spurs on Twitter.... Make of that what you will. The lad's only just signed a new 4 year deal, would be absolutely stunned if we sold him this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 so is taider a loan? as some other posts seem to make out that he is more than a loan? Loan with an option to buy - same as Osvaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/435606/Barcelona-eyeing-up-Celtic-forward-Georgios-Samaras Good enough for Barcelona fans but not for the mong board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 The lad's only just signed a new 4 year deal, would be absolutely stunned if we sold him this summer. So did Chambers and Lallana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Georgios Samaras is an odd one on the surface, but he cdajfu. He is currently a free agent + only 29 (thought he was older) I've sen him a few times for Celtic and he is hit or miss, sometimes completely top drawer and others just complete nonsense. His hold up play is good however and he is strong on the ball, he can also play the lone striker role quite well. Can anyone remember the Claus Lundekvam testimonial in 2008? Samaras played that night and was outstanding - I appreciate that was against a v.poor Saints side, but still. *Sigh* Yet again I agree with GS. In fact I agree with his last post as well. As long as we get a decent CB replacement I think we're in a good place, as long as we don't sell anymore players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 So for many on here we should have lined up the replacements before selling. So an incoming striker would have thought 'This looks encouraging, I get to play alongside Lambert and Lallana', a defender thinks 'I could learn a lot from Lovren', only to find that once they have signed, their new playing partners have been sold. Or do you think that the interview would have gone along the lines of 'We are buying you to replace ....', which presumably is what is being said anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 But we have got some over the line - three so far. But in how many weeks? Pelle and Tadic were Koeman deals where are our Prem deals that our alleged 20 scouts advise. ...what's the point of them if we cant recruit them? Just frustrated and worried we dont seem to be progressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 If any of our rumoured players looked at this forum for 10secs - then he would probably tell his agent to find another club since fans of Saints seems to be negative about everything and not even Zlatan Ibrahimovic signing for Saints should make all happy. Lets try something new and be positive for a change ey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 When did the club make this promise of weekend signings? Our new Manager did on Thursday night. He may have just been putting pressure on the Board to get deals done to be fair. They may even have them done and be waiting until today to announce them. But at the end of the day if you had told Saints fans at the start of summer that we'd be linked to Samaras the response would be 'meh'. Then if you had told them we'd be linked to him on a free after selling nearly £100m worth of talent they'd be angry. Not sure why we shouldn't be angry now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 So did Chambers and Lallana They signed their contracts last summer. Reed signed a new one a few weeks back! I'd prefer that he was following both Arsenal and Tottenham rather than just one of them...that would look a little suspicious. Hard to draw too strong a conclusion from twitter activity anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 If any of our rumoured players looked at this forum for 10secs - then he would probably tell his agent to find another club since fans of Saints seems to be negative about everything and not even Zlatan Ibrahimovic signing for Saints should make all happy. Lets try something new and be positive for a change ey. If you were being paid thousands upon thousands of pounds per week, would you really care about a handful of vocal fans (who would be no different no matter which team you eventually joined)? Also, I'll think you'll find that there are quite a few of us on here that are consistently positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Hope we start getting linked to some shïtty CBs because we wouldn't want to block Jack Stephens progression to the first team. Seems to be the new desperate mongboard mantra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Harsh on Samaras in here tbf. I'm not sure I believe the story but he's a lot better than people are giving him credit for. His rep isn't great here but on his day he is unplayable at times. He's certainly unplayable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Our new Manager did on Thursday night. He may have just been putting pressure on the Board to get deals done to be fair. They may even have them done and be waiting until today to announce them. But at the end of the day if you had told Saints fans at the start of summer that we'd be linked to Samaras the response would be 'meh'. Then if you had told them we'd be linked to him on a free after selling nearly £100m worth of talent they'd be angry. Not sure why we shouldn't be angry now. Can you find the direct quote from him? I don't recall he "promised anything"? More along the lines of "We hope to get those done over the weekend." If I remember correctly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Fancy that! Whoever decided to sell all our players without replacing them is boneheaded to say the least. Yeah and I'm sure the board are to blame for Lallana and Lovren alerting the social media world that they intend to be elsewhere next season had jeff all to do with it. They must have insisted that Morgan put "that" tweet out too. Whoever leaked the Jay Rod contract story MUST be a board member too. Nasty board. Boo to them. Take your blinkers off and change the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Pete O'Rourke @SkySportsPeteO 2m Sunderland are in pole position to land Manchester City midfielder Jack Rodwell. #SAFC #MCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Good enough for Barcelona fans but not for the mong board! Yeah I'm sure the Barca fans would have been over the moon with the arrival of a player who scored 8 times in 54 appearances for Man City, and has been playing his (dreadful) football in a League equivalent to The Championship for the last 6 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Can you find the direct quote from him? I don't recall he "promised anything"? More along the lines of "We hope to get those done over the weekend." If I remember correctly... Yes he said he hoped to get 2-3 players in over the weekend. We got none. We failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Yeah and I'm sure the board are to blame for Lallana and Lovren alerting the social media world that they intend to be elsewhere next season had jeff all to do with it. They must have insisted that Morgan put "that" tweet out too. Whoever leaked the Jay Rod contract story MUST be a board member too. Nasty board. Boo to them. Take your blinkers off and change the record. Did that mean we had to let them all leave before allowing anyone else in? It's about managing losses. You agree to let them leave but not before getting replacements in. You are kidding yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 It may be purely coincidental, but I believe both Taider and Bertrand were on that list and have been for some time. Whether they were initially targeted as purchases or loans, I cannot say, but I am aware the club has been keen on both players for a while. I have no idea of any others on Les's List (other than Ings of course). Dunno. Perhaps you are speaking to the wrong people? Everyone I speak to 'IRL' seems satisfied enough. Although, admittedly, most people I talk to are emotionally stable and reasonably intelligent. The difference between 'supporters' and 'fanatics'? Pretty much everyone on here is the later, but those not panicking too much (the 'satisfied') have more of the former about them. I must be speaking to the wrong people then, because almost to a man, we're f*cked off about what's going on. It's similar to the Rupert Lowe scenario, speak to your mates, they thought he was sh*t, go to a game and everyone stands up to 'get rid of Rupert Lowe', yet go online and it's a different story. Mysterious, isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Yeah I'm sure the Barca fans would have been over the moon with the arrival of a player who scored 8 times in 54 appearances for Man City, and has been playing his (dreadful) football in a League equivalent to The Championship for the last 6 years! Going by the link, yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Yes he said he hoped to get 2-3 players in over the weekend. We got none. We failed. 'Hope' being the operative word. Its embarrassing seeing all our fans winging on twitter and on here because they chose to convince themselves that we were guaranteed to sign 3 players this weekend. We were NEVER promised/assured/guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 'Hope' being the operative word. Its embarrassing seeing all our fans winging on twitter and on here because they chose to convince themselves that we were guaranteed to sign 3 players this weekend. We were NEVER promised/assured/guaranteed. But we set expectations that we hoped to sign 2-3. Not just 1. We hoped to do something and didn't manage it. So we failed at what we attempted to do. With the club in such a state of flux and fans rightly concerned at what is happening to extend that level of hope to the fans and then not deliver is a little naïve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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