Bearsy Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Van Dijk or whatever he's called. i think it's actually Virgin Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Alex Crook blocked me on Twitter this morning so I've lost one of my top notch sources of exclusive hot-off-the-press Saints news now.... What with being blocked by Neil Allen a few months ago I'm running out of tweets to cut and paste. Just Bobby Davro and Keith Chegwin left now. Well then??? What do Bobby and Cheggers have to say about the Saints situation, don't leave us hanging, you tease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Kelvin Chambers Yoshida Hooiveld Clyne Davis Wanyama Morgan Mayuka Sharp Isgrove This is so scary that I am starting to get a bit depressed and I honestly try not to about football - in the overall scheme of my life it isn't that important. I was trying to think who was the last signing we have brought in who 'hit the ground running'? Rickie Lambert maybe, but that was League One. Personally, and I mean I am not basing this on anything, I think we've dropped a massive bollock this season and we be in for a season of struggle and strife. I remember when we were taken over NC et al said the main thing was get the feeling of depression and losing mentality that was evident throughout the club and supporters - using this forum as a barometer (which I admit is not much of one) I'd say it's back. Even the positive views of the upcoming season seem to sound hollow to me when I read them. Back to the old Saints I think - and it wouldn't surprise me if there were a few of our old big defeats coming up in the next few months - a go old 6-0 or 5-0 here or there. The shame of it is I believe this could have been stopped - loads of negative newspaper articles and n'er a positive one to be seen - that surely could have been remedied and then dopey interviews given by board members - one a business bull**** speak that we've all heard a thousand times before (thanks Tony Robbins) - and another one saying we weren't a selling club just before we sold two of our biggest stars. Doesn't help does it. The only information we get seems to be from ITKers and how do you know they know anymore than you do? Marketing and social media needs beefing up and the first thing is a positive message, followed by positive action. August 17th is very far away and this would be a tough game with our best team and manager from last season - we could easily lose heavily and I've seen forty years of that thanks. Signing on players mid-next week (which we won't) isn't really going to placate a lot of fans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Given the rumour about interest in Van Dijk some might start to wonder that Celtic are for Saints what Saints are for Liverpool. The back four could easily be same as last year with Maya for Lovren as MLT suggests even today which is not a disaster OR it could be all change with Vlaar and/or De Vrij as well as Dijk joining the Dutch party going on at SMS. And if Morgan decides that is not good enough we might get Clasie as well. So when the Netherlands play international matches its essentially Saints v whoever ;-). Its starting to feel that this season we going to be singing "oranges" to the tune of "yellows" at some point...(or technically "sinaasappels" - which is dutch for oranges but god knows how you pronounce it!) indeed may I be the first to suggest it and thence take credit for inventing the latest best new terrace chant at SMS and for away matches. Koeman will hear it ans tuern to the crowd singing it and wave, of that ive no doubt. It does not get much better than that for a terrace chant now does it ;-) . Along with "its just like watching Hol-land" these two ideas are my gift to saints fandom. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Kelvin Chambers Yoshida Hooiveld Clyne Davis Wanyama Morgan Mayuka Sharp Isgrove This is so scary that I am starting to get a bit depressed and I honestly try not to about football - in the overall scheme of my life it isn't that important. I was trying to think who was the last signing we have brought in who 'hit the ground running'? Rickie Lambert maybe, but that was League One. Personally, and I mean I am not basing this on anything, I think we've dropped a massive bollock this season and we be in for a season of struggle and strife. I remember when we were taken over NC et al said the main thing was get the feeling of depression and losing mentality that was evident throughout the club and supporters - using this forum as a barometer (which I admit is not much of one) I'd say it's back. Even the positive views of the upcoming season seem to sound hollow to me when I read them. Back to the old Saints I think - and it wouldn't surprise me if there were a few of our old big defeats coming up in the next few months - a go old 6-0 or 5-0 here or there. The shame of it is I believe this could have been stopped - loads of negative newspaper articles and n'er a positive one to be seen - that surely could have been remedied and then dopey interviews given by board members - one a business bull**** speak that we've all heard a thousand times before (thanks Tony Robbins) - and another one saying we weren't a selling club just before we sold two of our biggest stars. Doesn't help does it. The only information we get seems to be from ITKers and how do you know they know anymore than you do? Marketing and social media needs beefing up and the first thing is a positive message, followed by positive action. August 17th is very far away and this would be a tough game with our best team and manager from last season - we could easily lose heavily and I've seen forty years of that thanks. Signing on players mid-next week (which we won't) isn't really going to placate a lot of fans.... Lovren? Wanyama? Both last season. Boruc? Davis? Clyne? Cork? Basically, plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 (edited) Not a rumour but it would be brilliant if we could churn out some more world-class talent but this time they're actually Southampton fans. Really hope he steps up and fills the void this season. Sign Rojo as a CB and LB cover by all means but give this guy a chance I say! http://www.thefa.com//news/england/development/2014/jul/matt-targett-can-fill-luke-shaw-void? Edited 25 July, 2014 by Saint IQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Not a rumour but it would be brilliant if we could churn out some more world-class talent but this time are actually Southampton fans. Really hope he steps up and fills the void this season. Sign Rojo as a CB and LB cover by all means but give this guy a chance I say! http://www.thefa.com//news/england/development/2014/jul/matt-targett-can-fill-luke-shaw-void? sign RoJo as cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 First choice CB, LB cover. In reality he will be first choice LB if he comes in but hope Targett breaks through and has a good first season like Shaw did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 First choice CB, LB cover. In reality he will be first choice LB if he comes in but hope Targett breaks through and has a good first season like Shaw did he is first and foremost a Left Back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 You don't sign a World Cup finalist and not start him every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Not a rumour but it would be brilliant if we could churn out some more world-class talent but this time they're actually Southampton fans. Really hope he steps up and fills the void this season. Sign Rojo as a CB and LB cover by all means but give this guy a chance I say! http://www.thefa.com//news/england/development/2014/jul/matt-targett-can-fill-luke-shaw-void? Sounds like Targett isn't expecting to start that many games judging by his goals for the season. Re-assuring that it sounds like the plan isn't to rely on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Alex Crook blocked me on Twitter this morning so I've lost one of my top notch sources of exclusive hot-off-the-press Saints news now.... What with being blocked by Neil Allen a few months ago I'm running out of tweets to cut and paste. Just Bobby Davro and Keith Chegwin left now. He may have blocked you, but he follows me. Me >>> You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 He may have blocked you, but he follows me. Me >>> You I'm not sure I'm ever going to recover from the ignominy I'm feeling right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 he is first and foremost a Left Back.. I don't think he is mate.... Plays Centre Back a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 I don't think he is mate.... Plays Centre Back a lot I think he is mate. check his wiki page and other articles. he played left back for argentina all through the world cup, ffs he is a left back who can play CB probably like yoshida who is a CB who can play left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Just because he played Left Back through the world cup doesn't mean its his natural postion. Kuyt must be a wing back as well then! Check his Wiki page? Nothing like yoshida, he is terrible at fullback. Rojo is equally adaptable at both roles, like a Gallas or Maldini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 (edited) Just because he played Left Back through the world cup doesn't mean its his natural postion. Kuyt must be a wing back as well then! Check his Wiki page? Nothing like yoshida, he is terrible at fullback. Rojo is equally adaptable at both roles, like a Gallas or Maldini. ok, you clearly dont bother to look up players... During his time at Estudiantes, Rojo won a Copa Libertadores and an Argentine Primera Division title. The defender spent most matches at left back and developed a reputation as a capable attacker, scoring his first goal in a 2–1 defeat against LDU Quito in the 2010 Recopa Sudamericana. Out of that back line, no single member enhanced his profile as much as Marcos Rojo. The Sporting left-back is now in the view of some of Europe's most prestigious clubs. Similarly to Branislav Ivanovic, Rojo has the ability to fill in at centre-back when required but is at home at full-back, and fits Chelsea’s defensive style as a solid player that prioritises stability over attacking adventure. Not that the Argentinian can’t be a threat at the other end of the pitch, though, scoring four league goals last season according to WhoScored.com and being a key outlet on Sporting’s left side. Chelsea are interested in signing Argentina and Sporting Lisbon left back Marcos Rojo, according to reports in Portugal. Rojo is a similarly flexible option, who is a left-back and has learned the centre-back over the course of his career. The 24-year-old has impressed for Argentina in Brazil and is at the right age to make the step up from the Portuguese league, where he plies his trade with Nani's former club Sporting. United are still looking for reinforcements in defence and so Rojo could be the perfect target. Edited 25 July, 2014 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Christ it is quiet on the transfers front isn't it?! I know Guan said the transfer team would be turning into a pannacotta, or perineum or whatever, but damn. Only saving grace is that we've got 3 weeks to the first game, and not many sides have done huge amounts of business yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Christ it is quiet on the transfers front isn't it?! I know Guan said the transfer team would be turning into a pannacotta, or perineum or whatever, but damn. Only saving graces is that we've got 3 weeks to the first game, and not many sides have done huge amounts of business yet. Except that we're playing one of the clubs who have done a bit of business already. Perhaps we should write that game off because we'll surely get stuffed and consider our season open at the second game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Except that we're playing one of the clubs who have done a bit of business already. Perhaps we should write that game off because we'll surely get stuffed and consider our season open at the second game. Or consider it to be our best chance to get points against a team whose players have not yet gelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Except that we're playing one of the clubs who have done a bit of business already. Perhaps we should write that game off because we'll surely get stuffed and consider our season open at the second game. Liverpool away isn't normally a game we would pencil in for 3 points is it. Anything we get when we go there is always seen as a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 I was trying to think who was the last signing we have brought in who 'hit the ground running'? Lovren was awesome from day one. Wanyama took maybe 4/5 games before he looked decent and was clearly doing his job very well, but even then, we didn't have a bad start to the season. Don't remember Clyne struggling when he first joined us - yes he has improved but he was never bad. Don't think Yoshida was anything but his usual self after he joined us either - could you argue he has got better or worse? So the new boys coming in aren't necessarily awful every time they play in the Prem league. Besides, we may sign some ex Prem players yet who won't need time to settle/get used to the pace etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Apologies Tom28, didn't read far enough ahead to see you had already addressed David's point. Not sure Boruc's start was that great though, especially counting his bottle throwing incident and subsequent club enforced "suspension" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 You don't sign a World Cup finalist and not start him every game. Interesting point. Personally I think Mertesaker (does he count?) is pony and I wouldn't break up the Lovren/Fonte partnership to play him. But if Lovren goes, and he will, maybe my opinion would change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Christ it is quiet on the transfers front isn't it?! Only saving grace is that we've got 3 weeks to the first game, and not many sides have done huge amounts of business yet. Although no team has royally ****ed up and sold 3 possibly 5 (Morgan, Lovren)of there best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Kelvin Chambers Yoshida Hooiveld Clyne Davis Wanyama Morgan Mayuka Sharp Isgrove Why have you left existing first team squad members Boruc, Ward-Prowse, Pelle, Cork, Tadic, Ramirez and Fonte out of this team? I can understand leaving Lovren and Osvaldo out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Why have you left existing first team squad members Boruc, Ward-Prowse, Pelle, Cork, Tadic, Ramirez and Fonte out of this team? I can understand leaving Lovren and Osvaldo out. :lol: I think his "location" speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Why have you left existing first team squad members Boruc, Ward-Prowse, Pelle, Cork, Tadic, Ramirez and Fonte out of this team? I can understand leaving Lovren and Osvaldo out. I think he's quoting my example line up which was sposed to demonstrate that about half the first choice team, even if they lost a leg in a freak dogging accident you would still sooner play them than the next reserve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 I think he's quoting my example line up which was sposed to demonstrate that about half the first choice team, even if they lost a leg in a freak dogging accident you would still sooner play them than the next reserve! Ah, I see your dodgy team above - there are still loads of players not listed though. Any team's going to look crap with a pile of first teamers missing - we did last season too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 We have arrived at the New Moon tomorrow. Schneiderlin returns this weekend. Time for movement 1)Cardiff's interest in Fonte is surely linked with our bid for Marshall where they must prefer Fonte plus ready cash. 2) Depending on the Cardiff situation the offer for Forster is for real or red herring and perhaps originally a cover for us signing Van Dikj or indeed signing both Forster and Van Dikj. 3) Surely we aren't waiting to Schneiderlin to jump ship before completing a deal for Vaar and/or Van Dikj. We need players to ensure Schneiderlin stays. 4) Allowing Fonte to go, whereas unpopular does make good business as long as we sign strong replacements. However it might be what has the remaining players jumping ship too. *** RE: Saint Charlie. The fact that he's lost all control over himself and fails to enact his promises to many of us, just shows how serious his situation is. Soon, they'll be coming in white jackets to take him away. Playing Cherries tonight must be an enormous wrench on whether he supports his first love or Saints. It may send him over the edge. 4) If Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Thanks art, you think probably Sunday or Monday would be a good time for new signings i mean with respect to moon law? It's good that the club are on top of this, i spose this is why guan has been suggesting we need to wait 1-2 weeks for new moon to kick in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Lovren was awesome from day one. Wanyama took maybe 4/5 games before he looked decent and was clearly doing his job very well, but even then, we didn't have a bad start to the season. Don't remember Clyne struggling when he first joined us - yes he has improved but he was never bad. Don't think Yoshida was anything but his usual self after he joined us either - could you argue he has got better or worse? So the new boys coming in aren't necessarily awful every time they play in the Prem league. Besides, we may sign some ex Prem players yet who won't need time to settle/get used to the pace etc Wanyama was excellent at WBA in the first game, then had a few dodgy games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Hiya! Did you miss me? Been mourning the old Debbie Harry, having seen the 68 year old version at Glasto. I arranged a hit on my source. As his Gonads were being fed to him he did say "but I was right. We now know who we are signing. All the details came out late Tuesday & Wednesday" Oh thanks a farking bunch, which ONES came out fell on his now decapitated ears Oh well back to Eid celebrations Barbarella on DVD tonight methinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Although no team has royally ****ed up and sold 3 possibly 5 (Morgan, Lovren)of there best players Swansea have = Vorm, Davies, Michu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Talksaints on twitter reckon Chambers has completed a medical at Arsenal. Can't see why they'd need him, having signed Debuchy and already having Jenkinson (I know Chambers is better than Jenkinson but we would surely want big money for Chambers and I can't see why Arsenal would pay big money for a back up to Debuchy when they have adequate cover already) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 (edited) Hiya! Did you miss me? Been mourning the old Debbie Harry, having seen the 68 year old version at Glasto. I arranged a hit on my source. As his Gonads were being fed to him he did say "but I was right. We now know who we are signing. All the details came out late Tuesday & Wednesday" Oh thanks a farking bunch, which ONES came out fell on his now decapitated ears Oh well back to Eid celebrations Barbarella on DVD tonight methinks 68 ? the old Debby Harry wouldn't have wanted to see 68, let alone 69 which she now is. Must have missed those details on Tuesday or Wednesday then. Edited 25 July, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Talksaints on twitter reckon Chambers has completed a medical at Arsenal. Can't see why they'd need him, having signed Debuchy and already having Jenkinson (I know Chambers is better than Jenkinson but we would surely want big money for Chambers and I can't see why Arsenal would pay big money for a back up to Debuchy when they have adequate cover already) Whether or not he has traveled to bournemouth will quickly confirm or deny that then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Talksaints on twitter reckon Chambers has completed a medical at Arsenal. Can't see why they'd need him, having signed Debuchy and already having Jenkinson (I know Chambers is better than Jenkinson but we would surely want big money for Chambers and I can't see why Arsenal would pay big money for a back up to Debuchy when they have adequate cover already) Jenkinson is being farmed out to err Leicester or something like that, can't remember what French Gooner35672 or whatever actually told me, apart from the fact that he knows Thierry Henry that is,grew up on the same estate; never lets you forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Jenkinson is being farmed out to err Leicester or something like that, can't remember what French Gooner35672 or whatever actually told me, apart from the fact that he knows Thierry Henry that is,grew up on the same estate; never lets you forget that. If it's true then I really will start to worry about the state of our club if we cannot keep Chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Hiya! Did you miss me? Been mourning the old Debbie Harry, having seen the 68 year old version at Glasto. I arranged a hit on my source. As his Gonads were being fed to him he did say "but I was right. We now know who we are signing. All the details came out late Tuesday & Wednesday" Oh thanks a farking bunch, which ONES came out fell on his now decapitated ears Oh well back to Eid celebrations Barbarella on DVD tonight methinks Bloody hell Phil, Debbie Harry was already rough as ar5eholes when she launched her solo career in 1989. That was 25 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 If it's true then I really will start to worry about the state of our club if we cannot keep Chambers. dont forget, top 4 club comes sniffing, we bend over and take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Talksaints on twitter reckon Chambers has completed a medical at Arsenal. Can't see why they'd need him, having signed Debuchy and already having Jenkinson (I know Chambers is better than Jenkinson but we would surely want big money for Chambers and I can't see why Arsenal would pay big money for a back up to Debuchy when they have adequate cover already) It is not Talksaints' info, it is lifted from this and talksaints retweeted it and then made his own tweet... Mike_Hughes_Business @TheAFCMovement · 21m Calum Chambers medical done today#arsenal#afc https://twitter.com/TheAFCMovement A random Arsenal fan with 400 followers, i.e. complete ********. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 :lol: I think his "location" speaks volumes. I stand corrected. Time will tell. Hampshire born, Hampshire bred - and you should know how the rest of it goes. I was brought up in a village so I am also a carrot cruncher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Whether or not he has traveled to bournemouth will quickly confirm or deny that then according to bloke who posted this on twitter, Chambers had his medical at Arsenal at 1PM today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 according to bloke who posted this on twitter, Chambers had his medical at Arsenal at 1PM today. plenty of time to get down to Bournemouth by this evening then, last kick-about with the lads and all that. The Arse are playing New York Red Bulls either this evening or tomorrow I think, they won't need him before mid next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 according to bloke who posted this on twitter, Chambers had his medical at Arsenal at 1PM today. Well we'll definitely not expect him to be playing against Bournemouth tonight then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 plenty of time to get down to Bournemouth by this evening then, last kick-about with the lads and all that. The Arse are playing New York Red Bulls either this evening or tomorrow I think, they won't need him before mid next week. Do you think we'd risk him with a £13m deal ready to be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Surely NOT chambers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Do you think we'd risk him with a £13m deal ready to be done? Well as I'm not sure that I actually believe this to be happening ....I just might. I knew they were trying to offload Jenkinson that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 If this is true about Chambers then I will be deeply concerned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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