Viking Saint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 We're simply saying that there have been good players to come from that league... not disagreeing about the league as a whole. so we're in total agreement then?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Dear Santa, I am happy to give up all my pressies this year if you can A) Make sure Liverpool doesn't qualify for the CL next year B) Levy fires poch by March Yours CB Saint C) We beat Liverpool in the opening game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Poch has had one stand out season, which faded notably. Koeman has a long pedigree of being right up there. Not comparing apples with apples for me. Wasn't poch manager of the season or something in Spain one year ? The season did not fade out notably, did it Koeman was a disaster at Valencia. I think they hate him there Was not that great at benfica, when his brief is to win the league and do well in Europe. I am very happy with Koeman but why is there a need to completely alter reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Poch as a coach is outstanding, personally, feelings aside, koeman has a lot to do for me to consider him to be at the same level. The way poch set a team up to trigger the press so effectively was a wonderful thing to watch from someone who is currently trying to coach pressing into players. I think, given time, he'll get Spurs into the CL again. And eventually end up at a top club Pochettino's teams were exciting to watch, no doubt. But by the end of the season, his one-dimensional approach had been sussed out by the cannier managers who devised tactics to overcome it. He had brought something a bit different to the PL, but we saw several other teams in the World Cup playing the Bielsa style and it won't be a surprise to see it becoming more widespread in the PL. I believe Koeman to have more about him tactically, but we'll have to wait and see. Personally I think that Pochettino made a bad error of judgement going to Spurs, whose expectations are greater than their capabilities and he will probably find that instead of using them as a stepping-stone to a really big club, his career will take a backwards step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Transfer rumours only thread. Need yet another new one please mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Pochettino's teams were exciting to watch, no doubt. But by the end of the season, his one-dimensional approach had been sussed out by the cannier managers who devised tactics to overcome it. He had brought something a bit different to the PL, but we saw several other teams in the World Cup playing the Bielsa style and it won't be a surprise to see it becoming more widespread in the PL. I believe Koeman to have more about him tactically, but we'll have to wait and see. Personally I think that Pochettino made a bad error of judgement going to Spurs, whose expectations are greater than their capabilities and he will probably find that instead of using them as a stepping-stone to a really big club, his career will take a backwards step. Yet last season, many times. You claimed we could make the champions league. Man on the moon and all that Yet, pooch at spurs have no chance really? As spurs being a backwards step, I bet they spend nearly every week of this season above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Wasn't poch manager of the season or something in Spain one year ? The season did not fade out notably, did it Koeman was a disaster at Valencia. I think they hate him there Was not that great at benfica, when his brief is to win the league and do well in Europe. I am very happy with Koeman but why is there a need to completely alter reality? And yet still won the Copa del Rey. I'll take him being a disaster at saints if we lift the FA cup..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 The Connor Wickham rumour seems to be circulating again. Possibly because Sunderland have told him to sign or be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Have seen a few people mention Victor Moses. Could this be the unknown signing Guan mentioned? Would easily have him at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Hope not, where he goes he ends up on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real saint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 yep that name seems to be gathering bit of pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Rather it be Redmond than Moses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I hope Moses can lead us through the exodus. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Tough one but I would prefer moses, he is proven at this level (all be it after a backwards year) where as redmond has promise but is more raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Moses is a very decent player IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Both. Squad game yadda yadda yadda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I hope Moses can lead us through the exodus. Sorry I was trying to compose a finding Moses amongst the Reed's joke but i couldn't make it work It needed both Les & Harry to make it plausible but i couldn't work them both into the scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Seems like a bit of a change in transfer strategy with these domestic links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Pochettino's teams were exciting to watch, no doubt. But by the end of the season, his one-dimensional approach had been sussed out by the cannier managers who devised tactics to overcome it. He had brought something a bit different to the PL, but we saw several other teams in the World Cup playing the Bielsa style and it won't be a surprise to see it becoming more widespread in the PL. I believe Koeman to have more about him tactically, but we'll have to wait and see. Personally I think that Pochettino made a bad error of judgement going to Spurs, whose expectations are greater than their capabilities and he will probably find that instead of using them as a stepping-stone to a really big club, his career will take a backwards step. Who had sussed it out? The only team that sussed us out was Chelsea, though if you want to split hairs they also sussed out Liverpool and City. The impact of losing Jrod has nothing to do with being sussed it out - save to say we've done f**k this summer to replace what he brought to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Seems like a bit of a change in transfer strategy with these domestic links. You suggesting that they actually have a strategy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 You suggesting that they actually have a strategy.. I think they do - as long as Les Reed is at the club I believe we'll have an emphasis on young English talent. I think he wants to lead the way with English football development. To be fair to him, he's doing a good job thus far and one of the reasons we've got such great fees for our players is because they are English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Yet last season, many times. You claimed we could make the champions league. Man on the moon and all that Yet, pooch at spurs have no chance really? As spurs being a backwards step, I bet they spend nearly every week of this season above us. I said this at the time and I stand by it. Poch is clearly a decent manager who the players loved playing for. I his methods will work equally as well on seasoned professionals at a big club on big money as they did on starry eyed players just out of the championship time will tell. Tactically he had one way of playing and either it worked or it didn't. When it did work we were fantastic to watch but at other times, especially early in the season we struggled to break teams down. He also rarely influenced a game by his substitutions or tactical changes, if we conceded first we rarely won. His substitutions were usually like for like using the same core group of players. Good man manager, undoubtedly, if your face fit. Good coach, certainly. Tactically excellent, I'm not so sure. I think he'll be another one of those managers who is a good manager but not a great one. I think he's gone to spurs to put himself in the shop window for a bigger job like he did with us. I'm not convinced that's how it'll pan out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I said this at the time and I stand by it. Poch is clearly a decent manager who the players loved playing for. I his methods will work equally as well on seasoned professionals at a big club on big money as they did on starry eyed players just out of the championship time will tell. Tactically he had one way of playing and either it worked or it didn't. When it did work we were fantastic to watch but at other times, especially early in the season we struggled to break teams down. He also rarely influenced a game by his substitutions or tactical changes, if we conceded first we rarely won. His substitutions were usually like for like using the same core group of We were third in november mate. Also, tbf to Poch, we didn't really have options off the bench to genuinely change games. He'll have that at Spurs. He won't make top 4 I don't think, but he'll give a good challenge I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Come on Saints... I wanna see that smiley from Guan. I've missed that feeling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Come on Saints... I wanna see that smiley from Guan. I've missed that feeling! think it will be Monday at the earliest now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/southampton-transfer-fruit-machine-predict-3949647? what the actual ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-ze...edict-3949647? what the actual ****? Link won't open. What was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Link won't open. What was it? just re-edited it. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/southampton-transfer-fruit-machine-predict-3949647? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 just re-edited it. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/southampton-transfer-fruit-machine-predict-3949647? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 just re-edited it. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/southampton-transfer-fruit-machine-predict-3949647? We are a bit of fun for others. Little bit of a laughing stock if there was one Will be someone else soon Probably west ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Lucas Leiva rumoured on Twitter. Unfortunately from one of those random 'ITK agents'. Would be a good signing though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Octopus Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/southampton-transfer-fruit-machine-predict-3949647? what the actual ****? Pelle 29m Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 ROFL JWP > 'Pool for £56M (always seems to be Liverpool) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Lol Everyone liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldbarbarian Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 just re-edited it. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/southampton-transfer-fruit-machine-predict-3949647? Kelv 56million Liverpool. Good deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 Lol Everyone liverpool lol yep, just noticed that myself. Good old gallows humour..! Also another random, Dejan has renamed his twitter - https://twitter.com/DejanLovrenLFC6 His head was really there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 So we've lost four regulars and a reserve which means four changes to the team. Unsustainable say everybody. So what happens to Liverpool? looks like eight brought in, so it's alright it works for them. Arsenal four, god knows how many at Utd, WHU, Crystal Palace, Hull, Burnley, etc etc. What a load of hypocrites in the media. We've replaced three so far, of course the jury is still out but I bet we will be a lot stronger overall this season than last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 If you can't see the difference Derry..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/southampton-transfer-fruit-machine-predict-3949647? what the actual ****? Gazzaniga for £9m!!! If only!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 So we've lost four regulars and a reserve which means four changes to the team. Unsustainable say everybody. So what happens to Liverpool? looks like eight brought in, so it's alright it works for them. Arsenal four, god knows how many at Utd, WHU, Crystal Palace, Hull, Burnley, etc etc. What a load of hypocrites in the media. We've replaced three so far, of course the jury is still out but I bet we will be a lot stronger overall this season than last. Completely different situations. We've lost the spine of our team - those other teams haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 So we've lost four regulars and a reserve which means four changes to the team. Unsustainable say everybody. So what happens to Liverpool? looks like eight brought in, so it's alright it works for them. Arsenal four, god knows how many at Utd, WHU, Crystal Palace, Hull, Burnley, etc etc. What a load of hypocrites in the media. We've replaced three so far, of course the jury is still out but I bet we will be a lot stronger overall this season than last. If anyone wants the dictionary definition of disingenuous, then here we are. Blimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/southampton-transfer-fruit-machine-predict-3949647? what the actual ****? if there was ever a more appropriate intro to a link, I'm yet to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I don't think they are irreplaceable. A decent centre back and overall we aren't much different. All a matter of opinion. The injured Rodriguez is a bigger loss than the others. I still think we will get over fifty points this season. Bring in five more including another good keeper and we will be in good shape as a squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 We were third in november mate. Also, tbf to Poch, we didn't really have options off the bench to genuinely change games. He'll have that at Spurs. He won't make top 4 I don't think, but he'll give a good challenge I reckon. West ham at home, Sunderland at home, Norwich away, WBA we needed a last minute pen. Only one goal from open play on those from four very winnable games As I said when it worked we wer excellent, but either it worked or it didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I know we need to be patient etc. but it's boring. Can we sign some players please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I don't think we have lost the spine of our team. Although Lovren is a big loss and will take some replacing, the spine of our team was really its engine room - the midfield, which remains almost intact. And I think JWP will be more of a factor under Koeman than MP allowed him to be. Lallana, for all his talent, was often a bit of a fart in a thunderstorm - tactically speaking. I think we can replace him (and perhaps already have) with someone who may be less talented but is more reliable in chance-creation, and I'd be amazed if we don't see more open-play goals from Rickie's replacement(s). And that, for me, was last year's story - failing to convert possession into points. That and not having the squad depth when the injuries hit. Depending on the last pieces in the recruitment jigsaw, and Koeman's skill at creating good chemistry fairly quickly, I can see us building from a slower start than last year but ending with more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I don't think they are irreplaceable. A decent centre back and overall we aren't much different. All a matter of opinion. The injured Rodriguez is a bigger loss than the others. I still think we will get over fifty points this season. Bring in five more including another good keeper and we will be in good shape as a squad. I concur, although we maybe a notable minority on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I don't think they are irreplaceable. A decent centre back and overall we aren't much different. All a matter of opinion. The injured Rodriguez is a bigger loss than the others. I still think we will get over fifty points this season. Bring in five more including another good keeper and we will be in good shape as a squad. I agree. We need a decent centre half and then any purchases will only help to deepen the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I don't think we have lost the spine of our team. Although Lovren is a big loss and will take some replacing, the spine of our team was really its engine room - the midfield, which remains almost intact. And I think JWP will be more of a factor under Koeman than MP allowed him to be. Lallana, for all his talent, was often a bit of a fart in a thunderstorm - tactically speaking. I think we can replace him (and perhaps already have) with someone who may be less talented but is more reliable in chance-creation, and I'd be amazed if we don't see more open-play goals from Rickie's replacement(s). And that, for me, was last year's story - failing to convert possession into points. That and not having the squad depth when the injuries hit. Depending on the last pieces in the recruitment jigsaw, and Koeman's skill at creating good chemistry fairly quickly, I can see us building from a slower start than last year but ending with more points. agree entirely with this....four good signings and the picture is far brighter......it's the waiting and hoping that's stressful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 1 August, 2014 Share Posted 1 August, 2014 I don't think they are irreplaceable. A decent centre back and overall we aren't much different. All a matter of opinion. The injured Rodriguez is a bigger loss than the others. I still think we will get over fifty points this season. Bring in five more including another good keeper and we will be in good shape as a squad. I was saying the same to my Father-in Law this afternoon. Anything above one more quality CB and the squad will be stronger than last season. If we can go through the year without having to play Gazza, Kelv, Maya or Jos we will have had a result. Tadic looks at least as good as Adam. Pelle will get some goals and I preferred Clyne to Chambers anyway (not to say Chambers might become a better player in the future though). Looking forward to the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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