Big Bad Bob Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 No, Taider is an DMC/MC. So he either Raps or makes announcements at ceremonies. What, pray tell, is a DMC or do you mean Defensive Central Midfielder/Central Midfielder?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 More options , but worryingly that does not necessarily mean more of a 'goal threat', unless Pelle reproduces his Feyenoord scoing record for us. If he reproduces his Feyenoord scoring record for us we would get top 4..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Let's face it 50% of the posters on here would get into double figures in the Eredivisie. The others would play a more defensive role, too pessimistic to get forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 If he reproduces his Feyenoord scoring record for us we would get top 4..... If he did we'd probably lose him in Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 So he either Raps or makes announcements at ceremonies. What, pray tell, is a DMC or do you mean Defensive Central Midfielder/Central Midfielder?? Champ Man lingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 So he either Raps or makes announcements at ceremonies. What, pray tell, is a DMC or do you mean Defensive Central Midfielder/Central Midfielder?? Apologies Big Bad Bob. You need to go get yourself a copy of Football Manager. "Central Midfielder" in old lingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Pretty sure our summer business is about over. Gutted we never got Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Pretty sure our summer business is about over. Gutted we never got Ings http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/15082014-ronald-koeman-pre-liverpool-away-1831640.aspx “We are still looking forward to bring one or two more in – we need one more in the wing position and the club is still working on that.” Read more at http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/15082014-ronald-koeman-pre-liverpool-away-1831640.aspx#jVMulOfBI8Q899Bz.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Pretty sure our summer business is about over. Gutted we never got Ings I only saw the score of last nights game. Did Ings play for Burnley? If he did how did he do, any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I only saw the score of last nights game. Did Ings play for Burnley? If he did how did he do, any good? He was impressive and the commentators (Tyler and Neville) both praised his contribution. He has a brain, he is quick with his feet and reads the game well for one so young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I only saw the score of last nights game. Did Ings play for Burnley? If he did how did he do, any good? He looked quite good, but can't see us getting him now we've got Long, nor can I see Burnley selling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach All quiet on the transfer front at #SaintsFC today, although I've no doubt that the club are working hard to bring in a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 He looked quite good, but can't see us getting him now we've got Long, nor can I see Burnley selling Hoping he may sign for us on a free next season after Burnley are relegated :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernsaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Marcus rojo all but signed for utd. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11042545/Marcos-Rojo-confirms-he-has-joined-Manchester-United-and-that-it-feels-like-a-dream.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 All this talk of wingers, attacking midfielders and strikers, but not one mention of Gaston Ramirez! Is there some assumption that he is about to be sold or abandoned to the garbage heap? If not then he is surely another option for us - either out wide, up top or just behind the striker(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 All this talk of wingers, attacking midfielders and strikers, but not one mention of Gaston Ramirez! Is there some assumption that he is about to be sold or abandoned to the garbage heap? If not then he is surely another option for us - either out wide, up top or just behind the striker(s)? Pretty sure he's injured (when isn't he?) - would love to see Koeman get the best out of him, it'd be like a new signing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Marcus rojo all but signed for utd. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11042545/Marcos-Rojo-confirms-he-has-joined-Manchester-United-and-that-it-feels-like-a-dream.html I love how he's passing off going on strike as a "misunderstanding". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 He misunderstood that he had to go to work every day? It happens with TFL all the time. Reasonable excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Marcus rojo all but signed for utd. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11042545/Marcos-Rojo-confirms-he-has-joined-Manchester-United-and-that-it-feels-like-a-dream.html I guess we all realise the signing of Marcos Rojo by Man U spells another nail in Luke Shaw's dream coffin. He'd better get himself quickly into shape or he's going to find himself on the Zaha scrapheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 (edited) I guess we all realise the signing of Marcos Rojo by Man U spells another nail in Luke Shaw's dream coffin. He'd better get himself quickly into shape or he's going to find himself on the Zaha scrapheap. Why? Rojo will likely slot in as a LCB and Shaw will play as a left wingback. Couldn't care less either way. Edited 19 August, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Marcus rojo all but signed for utd. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11042545/Marcos-Rojo-confirms-he-has-joined-Manchester-United-and-that-it-feels-like-a-dream.html Using Utd as a stepping stone to Saints no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Spurs bid £17m for Schneiderlin. They're having a laugh, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMondo Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Using Utd as a stepping stone to Saints no doubt. Hate it when players do that. Really disrespectful to little old Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Spurs bid £17m for Schneiderlin. They're having a laugh, right? According to who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Rojo signed for united £16m Plus Nani on loan for the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 According to who? It's on the BBC's football gossip page; The Sun is their source but that's behind a paywall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Rojo signed for united £16m Plus Nani on loan for the season Plus paying all Nani wages and a sell on. sporting done well out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Just been having a read of the Spurs ITK thread on their forums, they've got a couple of Guan 2.0 and K,Billy types. (Their guy is called Goat, apparently) They are of the belief that the personal terms between Spurs and MS are done 100% and have been sorted for weeks, they just can't get us to accept a bid. (And this happens all the time by the way...) They are saying that Southampton pulled the rug from underneath the deal as it was all in place 3 weeks ago, we (Southampton) changed the goal posts as we felt we had a point to prove. Morgan's agent is trying to take it to tribunal under a restriction of trade (???? this bit sounds utter bull**** to me). They've suggested that they will either get him in the last hour of deadline day, with Saints claiming they did all they could to keep him, or they'll get him in January. £20m upfront fee is set. We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Just been having a read of the Spurs ITK thread on their forums, they've got a couple of Guan 2.0 and K,Billy types. (Their guy is called Goat, apparently) They are of the belief that the personal terms between Spurs and MS are done 100% and have been sorted for weeks, they just can't get us to accept a bid. (And this happens all the time by the way...) They are saying that Southampton pulled the rug from underneath the deal as it was all in place 3 weeks ago, we (Southampton) changed the goal posts as we felt we had a point to prove. Morgan's agent is trying to take it to tribunal under a restriction of trade (???? this bit sounds utter bull**** to me). They've suggested that they will either get him in the last hour of deadline day, with Saints claiming they did all they could to keep him, or they'll get him in January. £20m upfront fee is set. We'll see... isnt that basically what KK Billy said? that the plug was pulled on the morgan deal for a saving face exercise and not football reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 isnt that basically what KK Billy said? that the plug was pulled on the morgan deal for a saving face exercise and not football reasons? Can't remember, lost track of everything! But it's probably very close to the truth, they saw the reaction when it broke that Spurs were closing in and decided to pull it. That's what I feel anyway and that's probably why parties are a bit miffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Can't remember, lost track of everything! But it's probably very close to the truth, they saw the reaction when it broke that Spurs were closing in and decided to pull it. That's what I feel anyway and that's probably why parties are a bit miffed. makes you wonder why they never decided to be this tough with a blatant want-away before they did meanwhile, chambers makes his debut in the champions league. yet he would have been the easiest 'NO' of the lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Can't remember, lost track of everything! But it's probably very close to the truth, they saw the reaction when it broke that Spurs were closing in and decided to pull it. That's what I feel anyway and that's probably why parties are a bit miffed. Have we ever bought a decent player from Spurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 makes you wonder why they never decided to be this tough with a blatant want-away before they did meanwhile, chambers makes his debut in the champions league. yet he would have been the easiest 'NO' of the lot It's all a bit odd, the Chambers one is clearly the strangest one. Makes me feel that Arsenal hit the release fee on that one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Good on the club. We don't need the money, and we don't need to pander to a sulking Frenchman. It's worth digging our heels in on this, if only to see how it pans out. If we just accept the fact that bigger clubs can take whoever they want whenever they want we might as well give up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 It's all a bit odd, the Chambers one is clearly the strangest one. Makes me feel that Arsenal hit the release fee on that one though. there was no release fee. the club would have had it plastered all over the media, if there was. get out of jail card, that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 there was no release fee. the club would have had it plastered all over the media, if there was. get out of jail card, that If you announce Chambers did have a release fee, you also announce that other players do too. Best thing to do is simply keep stum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 If you announce Chambers did have a release fee, you also announce that other players do too. Best thing to do is simply keep stum. That makes no sense at all, Walt Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Have we ever bought a decent player from Spurs? Can't recall one, they've been average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/501219/CONFIRMED-Vardy-ends-Southampton-s-interest-after-penning-new-four-year-Leicester-deal News to many I would have thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 If you announce Chambers did have a release fee, you also announce that other players do too. Best thing to do is simply keep stum. The Chambers and Morgan situation are strange to say the least. We were obviously willing to sell Morgan (and I think we would still like to) if the anticipated fan backlash wasn't so strong, I have no idea what the hell has been going on at our club this summer. We've replaced well but who the hell thought such wholesale changes were a good idea in the first place? More to the point can we expect this every transfer window if clubs meet our fair prices or will the board realise you simply can't sell everyone no matter how good the offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 I guess we all realise the signing of Marcos Rojo by Man U spells another nail in Luke Shaw's dream coffin. He'd better get himself quickly into shape or he's going to find himself on the Zaha scrapheap. 'Another nail in Luke Shaw's coffin?' He's going to be a fantastic player for them for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 If you announce Chambers did have a release fee, you also announce that other players do too. Best thing to do is simply keep stum. yeah, as agents will toe the line and keep quiet, wont they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/501219/CONFIRMED-Vardy-ends-Southampton-s-interest-after-penning-new-four-year-Leicester-deal News to many I would have thought! We were linked with him before he signed for Leicester, first I've heard since though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Signing Long, I can't see anything in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 there was no release fee. the club would have had it plastered all over the media, if there was. get out of jail card, that Correct, clearly no release fee. Will always look at Chambers sale as a Koeman call. I think the manager decided that for a right back in a position he was already strong, the money was plenty and he didn't want to go to war over Calum Chambers. So he took the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 yeah, as agents will toe the line and keep quiet, wont they Agents will talk, as i assume Chambers agent did. However the club dont need to further advertise foolish release clauses that perhaps Cortese agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Agents will talk, as i assume Chambers agent did. However the club dont need to further advertise foolish release clauses that perhaps Cortese agreed? Why, Walt J? If it is in the club's interest to publicise one release clause, it would have been in its interests to publicise all them - would have shown them to be even more sympathetic prisoners of circumstance. Of course, it doesnt explain why Lovren and Lallana had to throw a strop to get their moves; nor does it explain the negotiations that took place. If a release clause existed, it would have been impossible for us to hold out for a higher fee, as was claimed we did with the Lallana and Shaw deals. The club made its position clear: it would have been an 'insane risk' to keep wantaway players. Need to look no further that for a motive or rationale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Have we ever bought a decent player from Spurs? Frank Saul was one of their castoffs, Ron Reynolds their goaly lost his place and joined us. He was good for a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Agents will talk, as i assume Chambers agent did. However the club dont need to further advertise foolish release clauses that perhaps Cortese agreed? The player's agent most definitely would advertise it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 August, 2014 Share Posted 19 August, 2014 Why, Walt J? If it is in the club's interest to publicise one release clause, it would have been in its interests to publicise all them - would have shown them to be even more sympathetic prisoners of circumstance. Of course, it doesnt explain why Lovren and Lallana had to throw a strop to get their moves; nor does it explain the negotiations that took place. If a release clause existed, it would have been impossible for us to hold out for a higher fee, as was claimed we did with the Lallana and Shaw deals. The club made its position clear: it would have been an 'insane risk' to keep wantaway players. Need to look no further that for a motive or rationale. I dont think or claim that all players had release clauses, that would have been stupid of Cortese. However i dont rule out one or two. Is it completely infeasible that when Chambers signed last summer (aged 18 ) that his parents didnt insist on a top 4 club release clause? Perhaps it was a condition that he himself insisted on? I wouldnt rule it out. Players talk and maybe (just maybe) one got it into the contract and then others wanted similar? Would be prudent for the club to keep quiet if so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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