brett24 Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Wasn't Samaras coming last week, take it with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Whilst I'm not blown away I don't think this is as bad as signing as some make out. He will add pace to the front line whilst Jay is out. I personally would have been more pleased if it was Jelavic. As for the fee I'm beyond caring what we pay seeing as desparate its beginning to look to bring players in before Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Am I the only one who would be pleased with Shane Long? The memories of the West Brom front three of Long, Lukaku and Fortune ripping us to pieces at the back end of 12/13 isn't that distant a memory surely? Quick, strong and powerful. Just what many have called for. I would be pleased if he came here too. Not so much in what he brings himself but I think he would fit well with Pelle and create a very powerful dual attack, each one bringing out the best in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondo Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I think SL would be a good addition - £10m is a fair chunk, but most prem strikers would command something around that and more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Would add some depth and experience to our front line, plus pace, which we lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 ings would be more of an investment at that price and is on the up Yeah, Ings/Wickham who are younger and have potential to be much better are the sort of players worth gambling on, like we did with Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Wasn't Samaras coming last week, take it with a pinch of salt. Please don't remind me. Hopefully in a few days time we can look back and realise that talk of Long was just another nightmare also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Would certainly prefer Borini, Ings, Wickham at c.10m. For 5-6m maybe Long is a good choice to bolster the bench. Hopefully a PR leak to speed up a.n.other deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMondo Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 On paper, hernandez is a slightly better prospect than long. On paper, Osvaldo is loads better than Long. But with long you'd actually get a professional player who wanted to play for the club. Hernandez would come here with Billy big ****** attitude and would be an effing disaster. So yeah of the two I'd rather have Long Exactly this. Decent, experienced player who will cover an area we happen to be desperately short in. And, who cares if it's £10m? Right now I would rather we spent it here than on yet another player with 'potential' (see Forren, Mayuka, Ramirez etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 (edited) Exactly this. Decent, experienced player who will cover an area we happen to be desperately short in. And, who cares if it's £10m? Right now I would rather we spent it here than on yet another player with 'potential' (see Forren, Mayuka, Ramirez etc.) Would have taken Frazier Campbell for £800K. Edited 12 August, 2014 by shurlock Cheap as chips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Would have taken Frazier Campbell for £900K. Absolutely this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Was disappointed with Long initially but thinking about it he makes sense as a replacement for J-Rod (either injury or transfer wise). He's quick, has a good first tough and good work rate, and played in that position that lack of goals won't be such a problem. Also first impressions were that Pelle was even less mobile than Lambert so will need a runner up front with him at some point. 10mil seems a lot still... An expensive replacement for J Rod if that is the case. Certainly the plan is to have J Rod facing the goal and attacking the defence from deep with Pelle playing with his back to goal bringing others into play. Isgrove is not ready for this role yet as shown against Bayer, it worked against Brighton, but we are not playing Brighton every week. He is certainly a niggly player, responsible for our only sendings off in the past two seasons. As said before, we are getting a long way down our list of targets if we are going for Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 So, given a choice of Long or of nobody, who are you going to go for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Maybe we won't need a replacement for long [video=youtube;Arjg-NjAPcA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arjg-NjAPcA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Would Shane Long be a big improvement on Isgrove? Can he play the winger /inside fed role? If the answer is yes to both of the above, I can't see a problem other than the price, still not overly excited by it but adds depth and we need that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Would Shane Long be a big improvement on Isgrove? Can he play the winger /inside fed role? If the answer is yes to both of the above, I can't see a problem other than the price, still not overly excited by it but adds depth and we need that obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 So, given a choice of Long or of nobody, who are you going to go for? Why should it be a choice of long or nobody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 So, given a choice of Long or of nobody, who are you going to go for? I'd have nobody over Shane Long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 80 goals in 307 club apps (28 in 146 in the PL) are not the stats of a striker to get excited about. This guy loves to take a tumble and seems to spend more time sulking than scoring. I haven't seen much of him to be honest, but have never thought much of him when I've seen him play. Would rather have Lee Barnard back if we want someone to not score and wind up the opposition defence and fans! Surprised his goal scoring stats are poor, even at West Brom never got particularly high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I'd have nobody over Shane Long! Or play 6 in midfield like Spain and fook the strikers off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 How much of the £10m will i have to pay personally? Yep nothing. He isnt a marquee signing, but he is a big upgrade on Isgrove and if Pelle doesnt fire I cant see anywhere else goals will come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 £10m on a player who moved for nearly half that 6 months ago. £10m on a player who clearly can't play with his back to goal or as a target man and basically runs down channels and blind alleys chasing things like a dog in a park. £10m on a striker who isn't going to 'fit' into Koeman's system based on his pre-season 4-3-3 effort. What the **** is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Even Crouchy would be a better option, at least if he did fook all else but bring that scouse bint down with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 (edited) I'd have nobody over Shane Long! Edit: By the way, I think Long would be a decent signing. Sure, he's not going to challenge for top scorer any time soon, but it's an improvement over Isgrove and he'll give 100% every match. Can we guarantee that someone like Hernandez would do the same? Edited 12 August, 2014 by ratio_decidendi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I simply do not believe we 'scouted' this player with our 20+ scouts around the world constantly having players (and managers) lined up...... I reckon (if reports are true) that Long wants out and his agent is touting him about and we happen to need a striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 £10m on a player who moved for nearly half that 6 months ago. £10m on a player who clearly can't play with his back to goal or as a target man and basically runs down channels and blind alleys chasing things like a dog in a park. £10m on a striker who isn't going to 'fit' into Koeman's system based on his pre-season 4-3-3 effort. What the **** is going on. Unfortunately if you're no longer an attractive club to join and you leave it till the 11th hour then you have to take what you can get and at whatever price. I find it extremely hard to believe he would have been in the top 5 of attacking players we were after, probably not even the top 10. That's of course assuming it's a genuine interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I simply do not believe we 'scouted' this player with our 20+ scouts around the world constantly having players (and managers) lined up...... I reckon (if reports are true) that Long wants out and his agent is touting him about and we happen to need a striker Or we are using this to pressure Ings / Burnley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Maybe we won't need a replacement for long [video=youtube;Arjg-NjAPcA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arjg-NjAPcA Good to see. Thanks for that ART. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I simply do not believe we 'scouted' this player with our 20+ scouts around the world constantly having players (and managers) lined up...... I reckon (if reports are true) that Long wants out and his agent is touting him about and we happen to need a striker Exactly this. He's just not a "Saints signing", can't see it at all, just like I can't see us signing Hernandez - extremes. We'll end up with another striker not many have heard of, or Ings, I'm sure of that. And for those poo-pooing Eto'o, isn't he being touted around Liverpool?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Or we are using this to pressure Ings / Burnley I think that is clutching at straws. Even our resident ITK says it has legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Really don't see why we don't get Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Would have taken Frazier Campbell for £800K. Yeah Campbell's marginally better and marginally younger and that's a level of reasonable fee. If we're after long that stinks of utter desperation and panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Maybe we won't need a replacement for long [video=youtube;Arjg-NjAPcA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arjg-NjAPcA This is brilliant to watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I think that is clutching at straws. Even our resident ITK says it has legs I'm glad to hear we're going for players with legs! I'd call that the bear minimum, to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 £10m on a player who moved for nearly half that 6 months ago. £10m on a player who clearly can't play with his back to goal or as a target man and basically runs down channels and blind alleys chasing things like a dog in a park. £10m on a striker who isn't going to 'fit' into Koeman's system based on his pre-season 4-3-3 effort. What the **** is going on. Maybe Koeman rates him? Maybe he plans to play two up front once he actually had two strikers? I find it very hard to believe he hasn't ok'd the transfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 This is brilliant to watch! Tweeted by none other than Morgan Schneiderlin with the caption "So happy for my friend" 1st Tweet since the famous tweet 10 days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 I'd be more than a bit underwhelmed by Shane Long if we signed him to be honest - and a bit horrified if we paid anywhere near £10 million for him. He may have pace and be a workhorse but that's about it. Anyway why would he leave Hull - an upwardly mobile club playing Europa League football and a club that have actually won something for us - a club with no real ambition and a team very much on the down and set for a relegation battle. Whatever the truth may be that is how it looks to the rest of the football world right now. How about Fabio Borini, Danny Ings, Luc Castaignos, John Guidettii or Jeremain Lens instead? Any two of those would do me right now. I hope our board have learnt the lesson - don't sell before you buy - but I would guess they have as they are trying to buy before they sell Rodriguez and Schneiderlin at the end of the transfer window. I think they also might have learnt there is no point in chasing players like Hernandez or Rojo when you've already sold players like Shaw, Lambert, Lallana, Lovren and Chambers - it doesn't show any ambition and players like that want big clubs and/or champions league football - or Europa at least. I have to ask what has happened to our scouting network Les Reed was so proud off - and our much vaunted Director of Football / Technical Director set up? Surely we should have had a whole list of great young players we were going to bring in to replace those who have departed. It looks a little bit like we are in panic mode and without much idea of what we are doing. It should really have mattered who the manager was - we should have had our transfer targets sorted - and our succession plans in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Am I the only one who would be pleased with Shane Long? The memories of the West Brom front three of Long, Lukaku and Fortune ripping us to pieces at the back end of 12/13 isn't that distant a memory surely? Quick, strong and powerful. Just what many have called for. Nope, I'd be more than enthused by his addition. The fee speculated is undoubtedly high though (by a few mil). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Tweeted by none other than Morgan Schneiderlin with the caption "So happy for my friend" 1st Tweet since the famous tweet 10 days ago Ooo, I didn't notice that, good spot Art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 on another note, shaw not even in the squad tonight at OT (if the papers are right) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 on another note, shaw not even in the squad tonight at OT (if the papers are right) What paper is printed at this time of night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 JimWhite: Just heard that striker Shane Long is on the move again. £12m fee agreed to take him from Hull City to Southampton. #saintsfc #hcafc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Jim White says 12 (TWELVE) million pound fee agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 £12m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Maybe Koeman rates him? Maybe he plans to play two up front once he actually had two strikers? I find it very hard to believe he hasn't ok'd the transfer I would suggest Koeman is involved of course but it just makes no sense to me. Rather worryingly is the way we've been pumping long balls forward at times pre-season - anyone who was at the WBA and Hull away games would have seen how Long performs in this conditions. For every five long balls pumped forward he'll jump into the defender once giving a free kick away, not bother with two, and for the two that go over the defenders head he'll chase full pelt even though the ball is clearly going behind for a goal kick. I just do not understand what we are trying to do with the balance in the squad. This isn't a striker who fits into a possession based strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 JimWhite: Just heard that striker Shane Long is on the move again. £12m fee agreed to take him from Hull City to Southampton. #saintsfc #hcafc Crikey! Wonder how much we bid for Ings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 looks like we have our striker we needed just a cool £12m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 Josip Drmić is where I'd spend my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 on another note, shaw not even in the squad tonight at OT (if the papers are right) He's not; But it's a "Man U XI" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 August, 2014 Share Posted 12 August, 2014 JimWhite: Just heard that striker Shane Long is on the move again. £12m fee agreed to take him from Hull City to Southampton. #saintsfc #hcafc Embarrasing joke if we are paying that for someone as mediocre as Long. Nice to see us squandering the money we got for actual good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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