'00' Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 From the book by Simon Kuiper 1 A new manager wastes money on transfers if you let him 2 Use the wisdom of crowds 3Stars of recent World Cups are overvalued 4 Certain Nationalities are overvalued 5 Older players are overvalued 6 Centre Forwards are overvalued,goalkeepers are undervalued 7 Gentleman prefer blondes; id and abandon 'sight based prejudices' 8 The best time to buy a player is in his early twenties 9 Sell any player when another club offers more than he is worth 10 Replace your best players even before you sell them 11 Buy players with personal problems,and then help them deal with their problems 12 Help your players relocate. Some timely advice for Saints ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 From the book by Simon Kuiper 1 A new manager wastes money on transfers if you let him 2 Use the wisdom of crowds 3Stars of recent World Cups are overvalued 4 Certain Nationalities are overvalued 5 Older players are overvalued 6 Centre Forwards are overvalued,goalkeepers are undervalued 7 Gentleman prefer blondes; id and abandon 'sight based prejudices' 8 The best time to buy a player is in his early twenties 9 Sell any player when another club offers more than he is worth 10 Replace your best players even before you sell them 11 Buy players with personal problems,and then help them deal with their problems 12 Help your players relocate. Some timely advice for Saints ? Number ten is definitely one for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 11 Buy players with personal problems Already quite good at this. and then help them deal with their problems Not so good at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Number 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 From the book by Simon Kuiper 1 A new manager wastes money on transfers if you let him 2 Use the wisdom of crowds 3Stars of recent World Cups are overvalued 4 Certain Nationalities are overvalued 5 Older players are overvalued 6 Centre Forwards are overvalued,goalkeepers are undervalued 7 Gentleman prefer blondes; id and abandon 'sight based prejudices' 8 The best time to buy a player is in his early twenties 9 Sell any player when another club offers more than he is worth 10 Replace your best players even before you sell them 11 Buy players with personal problems,and then help them deal with their problems 12 Help your players relocate. Some timely advice for Saints ? Pretty sure Nigel Clough proposed most of these, hardly revolutionary stuff but still relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 Ooh, a new edition? Perfect holiday reading. I will Amazon Prime it. 7? Is this about beards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 13. Make sure your catering is the envy of the rest of the Premier League 14. Don't get your kits from Primark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 July, 2014 Share Posted 22 July, 2014 16. Keep away from football forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 Just arrived! Looks to be an excellent addition. I read the first edition a while back and was pretty darn impressed, but this looks to be a complete revision really - as it should be with four more years of technology and stats analysis in the game (I.e. a massive amount of data and a cultural shift completed). Adrian - it's funny you should say about 'stating the obvious' as the introduction has an anecdote about exactly that response from Roberto Mancini, who then (gladly) eats his words. Yes, I suspect many of us will 'know' a lot of this already, but its nice to have the facts n figures to support gut feelings and to, sometimes, have your accepted views changed and your eyes opened. There are possibly better football books out there, but not many that reveal in such geekiness too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 No 2 an oxymoron surely? Not sure about No 11. Big Mac had a good track record in getting the best out of some "difficult" players but even he would have struggled with Osvaldo I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 17. Dummies guide to buying the Premiership Title 18. Dummies guide to buying the Champions League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 No 12... to Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 The more I think about no 11 the more it sounds like care in the community. Instead of buying players with problems perhaps it should say quality players with problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 No 11 worked well with Osvaldo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 July, 2014 Share Posted 23 July, 2014 (edited) 1 A new manager wastes money on transfers if you let him - Redknapp is a prime example 2 Use the wisdom of crowds - well, that of lots of informed people to average out their opinions, not actually fans. 3 Stars of recent World Cups are overvalued - hence my endless "get Ramirez and Osvaldo to the World Cup then sell them" posts last year. Turns out it also works for Lambert, Lallana and Shaw. 4 Certain Nationalities are overvalued - I mentioned this when we signed Guly, funnily enough. 5 Older players are overvalued - especially ones who were excellent as teenagers and are now jaded, injured, going through the motions unmotivated 10 year pros aged 28. 6 Centre Forwards are overvalued,goalkeepers are undervalued - Disagree with the first bit () but agree with the latter 7 Gentleman prefer blondes; id and abandon 'sight based prejudices' - Micky Quinn theory 8 The best time to buy a player is in his early twenties - see also 5 9 Sell any player when another club offers more than he is worth - as a business plan this one depends on the opportunity cost of relegation, surely? 10 Replace your best players even before you sell them - OBVIOUSLY. 11 Buy players with personal problems,and then help them deal with their problems - They'd have to be dirt cheap, you can ruin a good squad doing this 12 Help your players relocate. - This was a biggie for me in 2010 when we didn't have today's Prem Staff Bloatware and may not have been good at assimilating foreign players (which seemed to be the case with Tadanari Lee not long after). Oh, and 2 and 7 are slightly contradictory. Listen to overall opinion but ignore decisions made by the majority based on false premises like appearance? You just said the majority opinion was a good thing? Edited 23 July, 2014 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 Honestly worth reading the book. The chapter that has this list goes on to write about them in detail, the one liners don't do it justice really and they all come from previous 'experts' in transfers. I can't defend all of the points (and neither would or should I - in the book they are dissected not upheld as golden rules). Brilliant book so far. Great shout 00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 And England Lose because ....... ? Guess that's one of the shorter chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 25 July, 2014 Share Posted 25 July, 2014 And England Lose because ....... ? Guess that's one of the shorter chapters. I would imagine it is! Only on chapter 3 at the moment, but off on holiday today. I will give a full review on my return. It really does look a cracking book though. Chapter two can be summed up thus: More Wages = More Wins (the team that pays the most wins the most). Big Transfers = meh, minimal advantage, big risk, no sign it helps clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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