CONFIRMED - Steven Caulker - DONE DEAL (loan)

[washsaint]

See some folks over on UI are claiming that we have signed Caulker for 8.9 million. Anyone know if there is any truth in this?

 

Seems, IMO, obvious Lovren is off as he was not even in squad tonight (and good riddance to the piece of c**p) and Caulker could be a good signing if true. Young, highly thought of and with prem experience.

[CB Fry]

Quite a lot on twitter, surprised there isn't a dedicated thread on here already.

[Saint_Abroad]

Lovren was at training this morning. I'm sure he's just being slowly reintroduced into the squad following the World Cup as Koeman knows how good he is.

[Batman]

I'm sure I read one of our ITKs say lovren would go as soon a replacement was brought in.

 

Be a good signing IMO

[Viking Warrior]

You read to much into some of the ItK's batman .

 

We are buying a very good Chinese player hence the panda connections

[stevy777_x]

What if Caulker was brought in to be Lovren's partner?

 

Does anyone know what side of the defense Caulker plays in? Lovren is a left sided central defender so if Caulker is a right sided central defender then he is clearly not a replacement.

[SB]

you're quite loud lately batman, are you ok?

[Leicestersaint]

This would be a great signing if it's true.

[Saint Charlie]

Was it patred who posted it? Theres a reason most of those loons have been exhiled to the UI.

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

I was only told last night that Koeman wasn't keen on Caulker. What wasn't clear was if that was as a player or whether he wasn't keen on the price etc?

[saint lard]

Harry Redknapp....live on sky now....'agreed a fee for Caulker,would be a great thing for him to play alongside Rio Ferdinand...he would be mad to turn us down...just look at what Cahill has learned with john terry'......jim white lapping it up.

 

 

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[KingdomCome]

'arry saying fee agreed with QPR on SSN.

Didn't see it, just going by twitter

[stevy777_x]

What if Caulker was brought in to be Lovren's partner?

 

Does anyone know what side of the defense Caulker plays in? Lovren is a left sided central defender so if Caulker is a right sided central defender then he is clearly not a replacement.

 

 

Just looked it up, Caulker is a right sided center half, so appears he is not a replacement for Lovren.

[Turkish]

Was it patred who posted it? Theres a reason most of those loons have been exhiled to the UI.

 

For the record patred is against us signing him. He saw him play in a league cup game whilst visiting friends in Morecambe. He says caulker was awful, scored an own goal, gave away a penalty and got sent off.

[sadoldgit]

For the record patred is against us signing him. He saw him play in a league cup game whilst visiting friends in Morecambe. He says caulker was awful, scored an own goal, gave away a penalty and got sent off.

 

That was Jos surely?

[Saint Charlie]

If we really wanted Caulker we have had ample time to go after him. Can only conclude we don't. Is he that good? Jury definitely out.

[Didcot Saint]

Typical 'arry, signing average Championship players and a big name but over the hill defender on loads of money. Will the dunce ever learn?

[Saint Fan CaM]

Can't see it happening, but stranger things...

[positivepete]

Caulker swap for Fonte (plus cash) ?

[The9]

I think Caulker is hugely overrated, but probably has potential to be better than Hooiveld or Yoshida so would be a decent enough signing if we keep Lovren and Fonte.

[The9]

Typical 'arry, signing average Championship players and a big name but over the hill defender on loads of money. Will the dunce ever learn?

 

Pretty sure he learned the kind of players you have to sign to make yourself a chunk of cash LONG ago.

[igsey]

Caulker swap for Fonte (plus cash) ?

 

I'd rather keep Fonte, to be honest.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

I'd rather keep Fonte, to be honest.

 

I wouldn't

[Saints foreva]

Caulker swap for Fonte (plus cash) ?

 

No thanks.

 

Fonte was much better than Caulker last season.

[ThreeSixty]

If Lovren stays, Fonte needs to play along side him.

 

Their bromance adds at least 20% to their skills.

[Matthew Le Tissier]

Tried to tell you ages ago it was close to a done deal. He spent the day at staplewood . As usual people rubbished it off. There was just a cloud over him having to stay at cardif till a certain date for some reason . Maybe that's now been sorted out

[SuperMikey]

Caulker is alright but no Lovren. It's a tough one. Few would doubt it's a good signing with Lovren. Replacing him, it's weakened us.

 

If Lovren is vaguely honest and wanted strengthening though, this would be evidence.

 

Would like Powell as well. 2 good young English players, then a new LB and 2 more attacking players. If those signings are right, I'd start to think we might actually have a better squad than last year. If we sell Lovren and Morgan or others, then we need to adjust expectations and hope for more longer term.

 

Powell?

[hypochondriac]

Powell?

 

Nick Powell I imagine.

[gogo_saint]

Gary lineker said caulker was too slow on the turn to be top class. Maybe he ain't all that. Cardiff ST holders I know said he went missing whenever they went behind and for the entire second half of the season. Head already thinking about his relegation release clause perhaps.

[SuperMikey]

Nick Powell I imagine.

 

Ah right. Don't think we need another attacking midfielder, have quite a few options there already, and still some academy lads coming through.

[buctootim]

Seems likely the plan was to sign one of the Dutch guys but that has been blown out of the water by their good showing in WC. Caulker looks like third choice.

[dubai_phil]

Caulker was not "Snapped Up" by a big team when he went to Cardiff. Too many pundits including many on here said he was not quick enough or good enough.

 

A season in a poor Cardiff team cannot have turned him into a Lovren/Fonte replacement, so I seriously hope this is a UI wind up.

[SuperMikey]

In Caulker's defence, he is only 22 - that's very young for a CB. His first proper season in the Prem as well, in a team which leaked goals all year. Our centre backs got absolutely slaughtered when they made the step up from the Championship, but Fonte looks like he's played in the Prem his whole career now. I think the potential is definitely there for him to be a very good player, and he seems like a good bloke as well.

 

Plus we have to factor in that our manager was a World Class defender in his day, and working with him would be an attractive prospect for young players out there.

[buctootim]

In Caulker's defence, he is only 22 - that's very young for a CB. His first proper season in the Prem as well, in a team which leaked goals all year. I think the potential is definitely there, and he seems like a good bloke as well.

 

Plus we have to factor in that our manager was a World Class defender in his day, and working with him would be an attractive prospect for young players out there.

 

You can coach out mistakes and coach in positioning and tactics. Im not sure you can teach a 22 year old to speed up in the turn or stop being carp on the ball.

[SuperMikey]

You can coach out mistakes and coach in positioning and tactics. Im not sure you can teach a 22 year old to speed up in the turn or stop being carp on the ball.

 

I think Wanyama's performances in the second half of the season will go against that point, although he's not perfect by any means. He looked an awful lot better on the ball and also in his awareness when he came back from injury - something the coaches had clearly worked with him on.

 

I'm not saying he's guaranteed to become a great player or anything, but he'd definitely do a job for us and has the potential to really kick on.

[saintnicoolas]

Sorry if already posted but i found this article quite interesting on the Dejan/Caulker comparison

 

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/05/skrtel-vs-caulker-vs-lovren-complete-defender/

[egg]

You can coach out mistakes and coach in positioning and tactics. Im not sure you can teach a 22 year old to speed up in the turn or stop being carp on the ball.

 

Agreed. He's got defects that won't go away. He's worse than lovren, fonte and yoshida imo.

 

A no from me.

[Sour Mash]

I think Wanyama's performances in the second half of the season will go against that point, although he's not perfect by any means. He looked an awful lot better on the ball and also in his awareness when he came back from injury - something the coaches had clearly worked with him on.

 

I'm not saying he's guaranteed to become a great player or anything, but he'd definitely do a job for us and has the potential to really kick on.

Good point, still very young and I a high standard for a Centre back, impressive.

 

Sorry if already posted but i found this article quite interesting on the Dejan/Caulker comparison

 

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/05/skrtel-vs-caulker-vs-lovren-complete-defender/

Always a bit cynical about those sorts of stats articles, but that's a fair account, good balanced analysis of three good defenders.

[UpweySaint]

John Terry is slow as you like but one of the best cbs in the division last season. Not saying Caulker is directly comparable but he is strong in the air, can play out from the back and, as others has said, is a decent age for a cb (ie plenty of time to develop but enough under his belt to be in a decent first team such as ours).

 

I like the fact he is English, adds a set piece threat, is a good age and the prices being banded about seem v cheap for a player of his potential.

[Sour Mash]

Agreed. He's got defects that won't go away. He's worse than lovren, fonte and yoshida imo.

 

A no from me.

Each to their own opinion, but I think he's better than Yoshida and Fonte.

[saintnicoolas]

why has he got defects that wont go away? hes got youth on his side and his stats are excellent having scored 5 goals as well. Hes a tried and tested central defender in the premiership who made zero errors for a cardiff side that were also relegated. A possible future England defender at under 10 million also makes good business sense...we have already bought two players from the continent, I for one would like to see us purchase this Brit.

[Bearsy]

Powell?

 

Darren. He was **** the first time we had him & I don't suppose he's any better now. Bit of a mental suggestion from Adrians tbh, I would much sooner we went for Caulker even tho he's over-priced

[The9]

That article said Caulker "had a superb season". He scored a mildly disproportionate number of goals in a side which got relegated, was utter toilet after Xmas except for basically one fluke at St Mary's, and also conceded shed loads of goals including to some terrible teams.

[The9]

Worth noting that of his 5 goals, 2 were against Fulham under Meulensteen, so probably shouldn't count.

[pap]

You read to much into some of the ItK's batman .

 

We are buying a very good Chinese player hence the panda connections

 

I love the ITKs, but I do think their followers fall into one of three categories.

 

1) Follow the gourd

 

 

2) Follow the shoe

 

 

3) Follow the smiling red panda

 

[Viking Warrior]

If caulker was any good the scouse gits would have signed him up by now . Your welcome to him Rodgers

Edited 17 July, 2014 by Viking Warrior

[LostBoys]

Putting it together - both QPR and Saints have matched his buy out fee - now just down to him and his money

[saint_ed]

As of yesterday we hadn't matched the buyout fee. Only QPR have done so currently. This is direct from a Cardiff board member.

[saint-crinny]

Would like to sign him but just feel he'll go to QPR - big wages, worked with Redknapp before and knows he rates him, will play alongside Ferdinand who he can learn from.

[Batman]

Would like to sign him but just feel he'll go to QPR - big wages, worked with Redknapp before and knows he rates him, will play alongside Ferdinand who he can learn from.

 

so, we cant compete with QPR now?