Donatello Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 BTW whats your actual original opinion on the situation then? That Ings isn't prepared to commit to a new deal (fair enough) and that rather than lose a player on a free, Burnley are going to cash in now to the tune of nigh on 10m (what is the rumoured fee? 8m, right?) and reinvest.
JakkoUK Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: “As far as I am concerned, Burnley Football Club and the Premier League is where I am, 100%." 1/2 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: "Everybody knows I enjoy playing for Burnley Football Club. It’s a fantastic family club and I am not looking to leave.” 2/2
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Good thing we've got pots of cash from selling two players and Premier League TV deals then! Thanks Ingsy. Sorry Igsey.
Saint Charlie Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Good thing we've got pots of cash from selling two players and Premier League TV deals then! Question is whether we would want to spend enough of it (on someone who may not even be a starting player) for them to be interested. Will be a tough deal to do, he is their best player and they need his goals to have a chance of staying up. He is worth more to them than to us in all liklihood.
Roger Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 BTW whats your actual original opinion on the situation then? My opinion is that I am gutted still we took our foot off the pedal when cortèse left. Very upset at handling of lambert should have got more for him and not be dictated to by Liverpool. A bit worried that they said they would wait to see what koeman said about lallana and shaw and then he said they were already sold when he got here. However, am a bit more optimistic about recent quotes ie handling of lovren and signings. I however , fail to see why I shouldn't expect my club to sign a lifelong saints fan from burnley. I also am fed up with seeing quoted from you like "it's obvious Morgan will be sold" and "Ings won't be coming" when you don't know. Enough bad things have happened without a doom merchant predicting more IMO
Roger Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 So is guan leading us astray here. Come on guan is he coming or not or is there any other signings in the near future likely?
Donatello Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 So is guan leading us astray here. Come on guan is he coming or not or is there any other signings in the near future likely? Guan has used all of his/her posts for the day.
shurlock Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: “As far as I am concerned, Burnley Football Club and the Premier League is where I am, 100%." 1/2 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: "Everybody knows I enjoy playing for Burnley Football Club. It’s a fantastic family club and I am not looking to leave.” 2/2 Burnleh legend.
grezz Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 he just posted a picture of a red panda. Ah yes, but it was the Mona Lisa of red pandas. It's all in that enigmatic panda smile. This thread will be worth millions in a few years time
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: “As far as I am concerned, Burnley Football Club and the Premier League is where I am, 100%." 1/2 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: "Everybody knows I enjoy playing for Burnley Football Club. It’s a fantastic family club and I am not looking to leave.” 2/2 Our players never said that
sadoldgit Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Ah yes, but it was the Mona Lisa of red pandas. It's all in that enigmatic panda smile. This thread will be worth millions in a few years time
Heisenberg Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: “As far as I am concerned, Burnley Football Club and the Premier League is where I am, 100%." 1/2 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: "Everybody knows I enjoy playing for Burnley Football Club. It’s a fantastic family club and I am not looking to leave.” 2/2 100% committed and ♥ Burnley, but hasnt/wont sign a new contract
ratio_decidendi Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Let's assume, for a second, that Burnley won't let him run his contract down and just leave on a free. It's probably best to leave speculation to the realms of reality. What do you expect, that Burnley will force Ings to sign a new contract?
farawaysaint Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Reading the Burnley forum on Ings is oddly familiar, stood by him through lengthy injury spell, says he loves the club but no positive actions, ruining teamspirit, feels like he's above the club. Clarets, we've been there this transfer window, trust us
JakkoUK Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Our players never said that Yes, but why would a club release something like that, just before selling said player? That would be VERY un-professional on there behalf and just fuel an out cry from the fans.
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 It's probably best to leave speculation to the realms of reality. What do you expect, that Burnley will force Ings to sign a new contract? When do prem clubs let million pound assets go for nothing? Very very very rarely
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 When do prem clubs let million pound assets go for nothing? Very very very rarely If he joins an English club at the end of his contract Burnley would get compensation, like when we signed Nathaniel Clyne.
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 If he joins an English club at the end of his contract Burnley would get compensation, like when we signed Nathaniel Clyne. Which would be considerably less than what they would get now When does your scenario ever happen? If he won't sign a contract, he will be sold by January
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 When does your scenario ever happen? I gave an example.
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 I said Nathaniel Clyne's transfer to us was an example. You've even quoted it in post #170!
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 I said Nathaniel Clyne was an example. You've even quoted it! So, when do prem clubs allow this to happen. ?
Saint Martini Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Which would be considerably less than what they would get now When does your scenario ever happen? If he won't sign a contract, he will be sold by January Pogba to Juve?
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Pogba to Juve? Indeed. And if that is not a lesson then nothing is
Restark19 Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Will anyone actually want to pay decent money for him in January? knowing that in a few months they can get him for almost nothing. It's a case of either selling now or allowing him to leave for free this time next year
JxgrSaint Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Was browsing the Burnley forum and thought I'd share perhaps the most ridiculous statement I've read on a forum that isn't this one: 40 Posted 16 Jul 2014 21:46 re: Ings "In all seriousness I honestly do not see Southampton finishing above us next season. They have had a fantastic season last season, granted, so much so that I actually wanted to see them do well by the end of it. However losing the Manager that achieved that success, along with the half dozen players who were above average, means they will in for a real challenge to stay up next season." Maybe Dalek has infiltrated the clarets?
ratio_decidendi Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Which would be considerably less than what they would get now When does your scenario ever happen? If he won't sign a contract, he will be sold by January I didn't know about the compensation to Burnley aspect if Ings were to leave at end of contract. So, I may be wrong on this but... Does Ings have the right to turn down a contract with a third party club and remain with Burnley until his current contract terminates? My assumption is yes, meaning that it's not entirely up to the club whether he's sold or not?
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Will anyone actually want to pay decent money for him in January? knowing that in a few months they can get him for almost nothing. It's a case of either selling now or allowing him to leave for free this time next year If he scores goals? Damn right someone will.
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 I didn't know about the compensation to Burnley aspect if Ings were to leave at end of contract. So, I may be wrong on this but... Does Ings have the right to turn down a contract with a third party club and remain with Burnley until his current contract terminates? My assumption is yes, meaning that it's not entirely up to the club whether he's sold or not? But when do players really turn down a move that, in Ings case, would most certainly involve a more established prem club and a very decent pay rise? Can't see it happening.
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Was browsing the Burnley forum and thought I'd share perhaps the most ridiculous statement I've read on a forum that isn't this one: 40 Posted 16 Jul 2014 21:46 re: Ings "In all seriousness I honestly do not see Southampton finishing above us next season. They have had a fantastic season last season, granted, so much so that I actually wanted to see them do well by the end of it. However losing the Manager that achieved that success, along with the half dozen players who were above average, means they will in for a real challenge to stay up next season." Maybe Dalek has infiltrated the clarets? Sounds like our first season up when saying kelvin for England and we were the best club outside of the top 4 Yeah I know, it was a mental few
ratio_decidendi Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 But when do players really turn down a move that, in Ings case, would most certainly involve a more established prem club and a very decent pay rise? Can't see it happening. I'm not sure that really answers my question, but I guess what you're suggesting all depends on the player. Some might want to give back to their club (I.e. loyalty) and see out their contract whereas others might jump ship at the first opportunity. Different circumstances will breed differing results.
cellone Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Pay Burnley a reasonable fee with 50% now and 50% when he moves at the end of the coming season. Bit fairy tale and child like but would give Burnley what they need, Ings a year of prem experience and fulfilling his contract.
Colinjb Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Was browsing the Burnley forum and thought I'd share perhaps the most ridiculous statement I've read on a forum that isn't this one: 40 Posted 16 Jul 2014 21:46 re: Ings "In all seriousness I honestly do not see Southampton finishing above us next season. They have had a fantastic season last season, granted, so much so that I actually wanted to see them do well by the end of it. However losing the Manager that achieved that success, along with the half dozen players who were above average, means they will in for a real challenge to stay up next season." Maybe Dalek has infiltrated the clarets? After seeing what Palace achieved last year of course they are confident. Outside of the top ten there is a lot of dross in the Premier League, we are more then likely going to be pulled back into that pack if we strengthen no further and that leaves us vulnerable to the likes of Burnley if they echo Palace's achievement last year.
Batman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 I'm not sure that really answers my question, but I guess what you're suggesting all depends on the player. Some might want to give back to their club (I.e. loyalty) and see out their contract whereas others might jump ship at the first opportunity. Different circumstances will breed differing results. It never happens though. Money talks, as we have seen this summer. Lallana was kissing the badge a few months ago....... It sounds good what you suggest. Be nice if it was actually a reality
hypochondriac Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 So you reckon Burnley will sell their main striker whose goals might keep them in the PL for less than 8m? All Im saying is people seem to think this is a done deal because of a picture of a panda, when it appears not to be the case. Guan hasnt even said what has actually developed today, he just posted a picture of a red panda. Not sure why but this post made me laugh out loud.
Badger Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Will anyone actually want to pay decent money for him in January? knowing that in a few months they can get him for almost nothing. It's a case of either selling now or allowing him to leave for free this time next year Yes, there's always one club hovering at the lower end,lower mid table that needs to desperately 'buy in' some goals as a solution, and would gladly cough up over the odds for it. (QPR -Remy, Fulham - Greek bloke whose name I can't recall, and probably couldn't spell it if I did, are prime examples).
Donatello Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Pay Burnley a reasonable fee with 50% now and 50% when he moves at the end of the coming season. Bit fairy tale and child like but would give Burnley what they need, Ings a year of prem experience and fulfilling his contract. What, so pay them to field 'our' player for a year? Hmmm.
cellone Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 What, so pay them to field 'our' player for a year? Hmmm. They pay his wages as per existing contract. A bit like a loan.
Patrick Bateman Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: “As far as I am concerned, Burnley Football Club and the Premier League is where I am, 100%." 1/2 Burnley FC @BurnleyOfficial 1h Danny Ings: "Everybody knows I enjoy playing for Burnley Football Club. It’s a fantastic family club and I am not looking to leave.” 2/2 Love it; "I am not looking to leave ... but if the club accept a ridiculous offer for me and it's for the good of the club, then I will reluctantly have to move on" Building bridges to leave on good terms, something Lallana didn't master. Just my take on it anyway and I actually have no idea if he's any good or not.
CB Fry Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 It's probably best to leave speculation to the realms of reality. What do you expect, that Burnley will force Ings to sign a new contract? That, or they sell him. Pretty common practice at every football club, everywhere. Kinda "the realms of reality", I'd say. Far more realistic than the "oh look! A free player!!" nonsense you're coming out with.
CB Fry Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 I'm not sure that really answers my question, but I guess what you're suggesting all depends on the player. Some might want to give back to their club (I.e. loyalty) and see out their contract whereas others might jump ship at the first opportunity. Different circumstances will breed differing results. Running his contract down to the bitter end is not actually "giving back to their club", is it? It's fu cking them over. Ings won't do that. It's called reality.
Donatello Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 They pay his wages as per existing contract. A bit like a loan. So...we're just giving them money? Gotcha!
sadoldgit Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Was browsing the Burnley forum and thought I'd share perhaps the most ridiculous statement I've read on a forum that isn't this one: 40 Posted 16 Jul 2014 21:46 re: Ings "In all seriousness I honestly do not see Southampton finishing above us next season. They have had a fantastic season last season, granted, so much so that I actually wanted to see them do well by the end of it. However losing the Manager that achieved that success, along with the half dozen players who were above average, means they will in for a real challenge to stay up next season." Maybe Dalek has infiltrated the clarets? Half a dozen? I thought that was six not three!
syd_barrett_saint Posted 16 July, 2014 Posted 16 July, 2014 Half a dozen? I thought that was six not three! Never heard of a Burnley dozen before?
buctootim Posted 17 July, 2014 Posted 17 July, 2014 (edited) Yes, there's always one club hovering at the lower end,lower mid table that needs to desperately 'buy in' some goals as a solution, and would gladly cough up over the odds for it. (QPR -Remy, Fulham - Greek bloke whose name I can't recall, and probably couldn't spell it if I did, are prime examples). But why would Ings, a few months away from being a free agent, tie himself to a long contract at a club in relegation trouble? Edited 17 July, 2014 by buctootim
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2014 Posted 17 July, 2014 Was browsing the Burnley forum and thought I'd share perhaps the most ridiculous statement I've read on a forum that isn't this one: 40 Posted 16 Jul 2014 21:46 re: Ings "In all seriousness I honestly do not see Southampton finishing above us next season. They have had a fantastic season last season, granted, so much so that I actually wanted to see them do well by the end of it. However losing the Manager that achieved that success, along with the half dozen players who were above average, means they will in for a real challenge to stay up next season." Maybe Dalek has infiltrated the clarets? That's their version of nick G
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2014 Posted 17 July, 2014 Sounds like our first season up when saying kelvin for England and we were the best club outside of the top 4 Yeah I know, it was a mental few First season up? Some were saying that in league one!
CB Fry Posted 17 July, 2014 Posted 17 July, 2014 That's their version of nick G Their version of NickG never said that or anything like that and you are deliberately misunderstanding them on purpose or something. You need to understand the meaning of "might maybe realistically aim to possibly try to realistically target" something, mate.
Turkish Posted 17 July, 2014 Posted 17 July, 2014 Their version of NickG never said that or anything like that and you are deliberately misunderstanding them on purpose or something. You need to understand the meaning of "might maybe realistically aim to possibly try to realistically target" something, mate. Ahh of course, he never said anything like it. What he meant was their squad is good enough to finish above us but a realistic aim is to finish 3 places below us with a likely finish of at least 6 places below us, or something.
NickG Posted 17 July, 2014 Posted 17 July, 2014 Better worry Statler and waldorf, as my predictions have uncanny accuracy!
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