Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 (edited) On the SSN ticker right now. Edited 15 July, 2014 by Jimmy_D User Request
Shroppie Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 And merge with the thread I created 2 seconds earlier ?
sussexsaint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 hope he bloody recovers and finds form again as well
Plastic Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Got to mean his recovery is progressing well then. good news.
farawaysaint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Fecking A, not sure he'd agree to that but fecking a nontheless.
Shroppie Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Presumably there has been an offer for him then. That would be my guess but a big gamble with his injury
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2014 Author Posted 15 July, 2014 And merge with the thread I created 2 seconds earlier Clearly a minute later.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Why no contract for Cork or Fonte blah blah blah, snore..? Good news. Hope he signs it.
alpine_saint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 interesting. Looks like the club are forcing the issue. At least they are trying to get a grip on the situation. Wonder if Lovren, Morgan and Chambers get one too ?
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 That would be my guess but a big gamble with his injury His recovery is seemingly going well and club may now be confident of a full recovery.
Bad Wolf Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 I thought Ronald said he'd wait a few weeks before offering anyone a new contract?
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2014 Author Posted 15 July, 2014 Whatever Now now, 1.10 is clearly earlier then 1.11. No need to strop mate. Good news on the contract offer either way.
St Marco Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Presumably there has been an offer for him then. Rumour seems to be Liverpool....again.
farawaysaint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 interesting. Looks like the club are forcing the issue. At least they are trying to get a grip on the situation. Wonder if Lovren, Morgan and Chambers get one too ? Bloody hope not, he signed last year and I imagine is on very good wages.
Colinjb Posted 15 July, 2014 Author Posted 15 July, 2014 Rumour seems to be Liverpool....again. Who else!? Jay looked to be walking alright onto the plane before pre-season. I would assume he cannot load his knee too much currently but is in light training to build his strength back-up.
Shroppie Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Now now, 1.10 is clearly earlier then 1.11. No need to strop mate. Good news on the contract offer either way. Agreed on all counts. Just hope he commits
Toon Saint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 A slight risk given his injury, but the club must be positive about his recovery chances to offer a 5 year contract in the first place. More money for him in the short-term and we are guaranteed a decent transfer should he ever follow Lallana and Lambert into the Melwood sunset. Hopefully it never comes to that.
CB Fry Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Bet he doesn't sign it The fact that the "offer" has leaked out makes me think this may be the case. Orrr, he signs it for this season but with a release clause in it.
Pat from Poole Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Interesting. Clearly at least one other club is in for him. Really hope he signs, though the actions of our ex-skipper would indicate it isn't exactly the biggest sign of long-term loyalty.
Bearsy Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Bet he doesn't sign it he would be dumb to give us the raspberry on this new contract, loads of players are never quite the same after ACL . That is some show of faith from the board right there yo!
Chez Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Would it not be prudent to see how he fairs once he returns from injury before offering him the earth, or does a delay open the door to his departure? As much as I'd like our top talent to stay, it doesn't half show weakness that a player out with a serious injury can still force the club to offer him a new deal.
pangy Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Just means that if he does sign and a bigger club comes in for him we will get a bigger price,5 years or 50'years means nothing if the price offered is good
Toon Saint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Bet he doesn't sign it To be fair, we are probably in a strong negotiating position given that he is recovering from a career-threatening injury. At least they have put the offer out in the public domain as well so we can avoid being played by non-committal vagueisms and talk of a 'relaxed' situation. Maybe the board are learning their lessons.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Interesting. Clearly at least one other club is in for him. Really hope he signs, though the actions of our ex-skipper would indicate it isn't exactly the biggest sign of long-term loyalty. Was told a while back, by someone whose family is close to Jay's (from Burnley), that Poch had told Jay's family before he left that he'd like to work with him again. That comment was made in March, roughly.
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Do we really need 2 threads about this earth shattering news??
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Do we really need 2 threads about this earth shattering news??
hypochondriac Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 It would be interesting if he actually signs.
Dig Dig Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 To be fair, we are probably in a strong negotiating position given that he is recovering from a career-threatening injury. At least they have put the offer out in the public domain as well so we can avoid being played by non-committal vagueisms and talk of a 'relaxed' situation. Maybe the board are learning their lessons. He will know his progress and he appears to be working hard. He's the fittest member of the squad so a good recovery is likely. I think he is in a great position to look at his options in Jan/next summer and not have Saints having scope to negotiate huge fee's
St Marco Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 The fact that the "offer" has leaked out makes me think this may be the case. Orrr, he signs it for this season but with a release clause in it. Yeah I agree. Without doing the whole xfiles conspiracy type thing, I would not be surprised if this was leaked from us to show we want him to stay when really we know he is off. I hope that is of course not true and he stays but you never know.
Bearsy Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Do we really need 2 threads about this earth shattering news?? This is the best thread cos the title contains typos, which is a venerable tradition on saintsweb
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 This is the best thread cos the title contains typos, which is a venerable tradition on saintsweb Ah so this is the Gruniad thread whilst the other is the Telegraph thread...
Toon Saint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Was told a while back, by someone whose family is close to Jay's (from Burnley), that Poch had told Jay's family before he left that he'd like to work with him again. That comment was made in March, roughly. So Poch was telling players he might be off around March? What a tit.
Bucks Saint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Would it not be prudent to see how he fairs once he returns from injury before offering him the earth, or does a delay open the door to his departure? As much as I'd like our top talent to stay, it doesn't half show weakness that a player out with a serious injury can still force the club to offer him a new deal. 24 - 48 hours ago many were slagging the new, useless, out of depth board for not resolving his new promised deal earlier. Now though a 5 year deal is a sign of weakness from the same useless people who are able to assess his injury progress much better than anyone
SO16_Saint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 he would be dumb to give us the raspberry on this new contract, loads of players are never quite the same after ACL . That is some show of faith from the board right there yo! I dont think he did his ACL at all. He clearly knew that England were going to be w*nk in the WC and didnt want to be anywhere near the squad so faked it
S-Clarke Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 It's an interesting tactic, I can't remember seeing a new contract leak into the media like this before? New contracts with us are announced on our OS - that's when we know about it. Seems a tactic used to put the ball in Jay's court, the club have clearly been forced to act upon significant interest. His rehabilitation is going much better than expected fwiw, should be back October time.
SO16_Saint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Do we really need 2 threads about this earth shattering news?? Do we really need 2 threads about this earth shattering news?? Do we really need 2 identical posts about this earth shattering news??
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Do we really need 2 identical posts about this earth shattering news?? They weren't identical, they were 50 seconds apart thanks to stupid forum posting rules Ah, I see, the threads have been merged at last. My interesting social media experiment worked then
Saint_Ash Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Clever by the club. They can be seen to be proactive with regards to Jay and show he's important, if he wants to leave and doesn't sign then the onus is on him abandoning the club as they rehabilitate him back to full health. Pushing Jay into a corner really, be interesting to see what he does.
Turkish Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 24 - 48 hours ago many were slagging the new, useless, out of depth board for not resolving his new promised deal earlier. Now though a 5 year deal is a sign of weakness from the same useless people who are able to assess his injury progress much better than anyone The Cortese over anyone brigade are a strange bunch. We are run worse than the Venkys apparently despite arguably an upgrade of manager, two very good signings (on paper), getting top dollar for our two want away stars and new deals on the table to our remaining ones.
SO16_Saint Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 They weren't identical, they were 50 seconds apart thanks to stupid forum posting rules Ah, I see, the threads have been merged at last. My interesting social media experiment worked then :)
KingdomCome Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Do we really need 2 identical posts about this earth shattering news?? Do we really need a post about a duplicate post about a duplicate thread? On a side note, not sure what to make of the news. Interesting to see if he signs it, but someone is talking and they will definitely have their motives.
a1ex2001 Posted 15 July, 2014 Posted 15 July, 2014 Seems bonkers to me given his current injury surely it will be impossible for us to insure ourselves against the terms of this new deal so should he not recover we would land up paying out 50K a week for the next 5 years for a player who will never kick a ball again at the top level?
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