S-Clarke Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Boruc Chambers - Yoshida - Fonte - Clyne Wanyama - Cork Tadic - Ramirez - J Rod Pelle Gazzaniga, Targett, Jos, JWP, Reed, Davis, Isgrove, Gallagher Two signings and it already looks decent, clearly just the lack of a first team CB and LB as well as a second striker and rotational winger (first team throughout Rodriguez' injury). As a first 11, bar a CB and a proper LB - not bad, no where near last season, but not bad. But the depth is non-existent looking at the bench. If we had a few injuries to the likes of Fonte, Clyne, Tadic, Pele - we'd lose every game in that period, by some margin I'd have thought. I'm scared that Jos seems to be getting closer to the first team again. Good lad, but never, ever ever a PL player - utter dross at this level and his presence would put us under relegation threat. This pre-season should still be used as an opportunity to replace Jos. Maybe we can do some contract/name depol changing, and sell Liverpool Jos - under the name of Lovren? Could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 A lot in the press and on this very board over the last few days, about the 'proof' of the inability of the new board and management to carry out 'the dream'. I, for one, have to humbly disagree. Who are we potentially these players to? West Ham, Newcastle, Aston Villa? No! The only clubs that are threatening to diminish our current squad (which we are trying to reinforce btw), are those that were one of only seven to finish above us last season. We had several crown jewels that outshone the lesser lights of those other squads, and now they have tempted them with lucre in the case of Adam/Liverpool, Rebuild a great club/Lucre in the case of Shaw, or Life long loyalty in the case of Rickie. The team has no mass exodus, just a few players who want in on the cash train offered by teams above us. So we will have to replace and improve on them, as Morgan says. The team we are left with, even on its own would finish mid table, with, Boruc, clyne, Fonte, Yoshi, Chambers, Morgan, Big Vic, Cork, Davis, J-Rod, and Ward-Prowse making a highly competitive first eleven. But that will not be the first eleven! It is true that Tadic and Pelle were supposed to be wrapped up by the end of last week, and it seems as if Tadic may join Everton now (another club who are bigger than us. I swear some of our fellow fans think that our eighth place finish put us in the champions league spots). This was, no doubt, the reason for the delays from his agent. Starting now, the undisclosed fee policy (Post-Pelle) will be twinned with the transfer committee becoming the penetralia of the club. For my part, I will restrict myself to smilies hours before a transfer is complete/ Aren't you just a little bit quick off the mark?. OK.. we haven't signed Pelle YET......but he hasn't signed for anyone else either YET. The idea of signing him (or any of the other dozen or so names being bandied around by the media) may /may not come from RK, and for all we know it ...may be agents who are trying to up the deal? (last season it took months to come out that there were no other serious bidders for Wanyama and Cardiff city stated that they hadn't bid for him, so in the end we were bidding against ourselves). I don't see that the failure (or delay) in signing Pelle is a condemnation of the Board, or anyone on it. At the end of the day, the player willdecide on the his best deal , but I don't think we should bid against ourselves and pay over the odds for player(s), who may not even be a success in Prem. As for those who have / want to leave... I say don't let's have players in the dressing room who aren't 100% dedicated to the club. If they want to leave ..then the "so-called big money clubs" must expect to fork out" big money," as we shouldn't sell off players "cheap" when we don't need to. .....Nor do I want to see any of their " bench-bound rejects " signed by us for some ridiculous part-ex deal. If (said players) aren't good enough for the Prem. with other clubs, they'll probably fall into the same category..... if they came to us. There are more Scheiderlins (and Lovren's) out there, and it 's the Board's task to find and sign them. Some you will get, others may not come.....it's the players choice and their future. ...and on the same topic.....do you not expect to get a new crop of; Lallana's..Shaw's...Ward-Prowse's and Chambers' this season..or have you given up on the Academy, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 We've had a go at trying to compete with the top 6. We did ok, and tried hard but ultimately failed and now it has spectacularly backfired on us. It's difficult to speculate as to where we would be with NC still here, but with Reed appearing to be the main figure of power, we are a bit of a soft touch as far as other clubs are concerned. We are back in the same position as Newcastle, West Ham, Stoke etc. A mid table side with no great ambition, and no realistic chance of troubling the elite, nothing more than that. It's time for people to accept we hit that glass ceiling very hard and are now falling a long way back down. If we continue to convince ourselves that every academy product is capable of playing in the starting 11 and don't sign 7/8 players, then we are in deep, deep trouble In what way are we " a bit of a soft touch"? WBA finished 8th the previous year, did they " have a go at competing with the top 6, but ultimately failed". FFS, we're going to end up like west ham fans believing some sort of myth about the " Southampton way". There was none of this pony about " The Project " under WGS when along with a cup final and Europe we finished 8th, no talk of it when lawrie signed the European footballer of the year. Of course there's a glass ceiling, there was never any chance of breaking through it regardless of whether Marcus or Nicola were still here. I can see half our fan base boring people to death in years to come with their tales of how close we came to champions league football, with what a great side and manager we had in '14, until Kat and the board pulled the plug. The reality is , we matched WBA from the year before and went out of both cups with a whimper. If our " superstar " players were so good and desperate for European football, perhaps Rickie should have tapped one in from 2 yards at Sunderland, lovren should have defended properly at Spurs and perhaps we should have beaten Norwich, Cardiff, villa and west ham in winnable games. As far as I'm concerned the players are leaving the board with no alternative, and are letting them take the flak. A bit of honesty wouldn't go amiss, they're hiding behind this " project" pony and a lot of mugs are failing for it. I hope they all get a wake up call and end up regretting leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 I cannot find anywhere that Tadic is signing for Everton. ....but (for example ) .....if ...HIS AGENT " floats that rumour to the media, it's a good way to push up the price a bit - don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Starting now, the undisclosed fee policy (Post-Pelle) will be twinned with the transfer committee becoming the penetralia of the club. For my part, I will restrict myself to smilies hours before a transfer is complete/ http://bleacherreport.com/articles/46453-revealed-why-clubs-leave-transfer-fees-undisclosed So it looks like we will be taking gambles as opposed to buying assured quality. Makes for an interesting season, if we restock our squad with 8 or 9 players on the fringes of their respective national teams, having progressed through their development teams then its not all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 ....but (for example ) .....if ...HIS AGENT " floats that rumour to the media, it's a good way to push up the price a bit - don't you think? Not really. The fee is agreed. Presumably Tadic is wanting to see if Schalke matches Twente's price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 If Tadic does end up at Everton, then I believe we employed the wrong manager. All this bull s h i t about Koeman being able to attract the best players is no different to everything hype by the likes of Wotte and Dutchmen as a whole. Drink talks and thus bull s h i t gets spouted more often than it does at a tea party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Oh stop with the patronizing pompous attitude.... Nearly everyone knows this all means nothing in the grand scheme of real life.. It's football and we are just the mugs who pay for obscene wages out of some misguided and juvenile need for belonging and tribalism. Football is just game, and anyone who seriously lets it take over needs help of a medical kind. ..BUt this is a football club forum, so getting emotional, OTT and expressing anger and vitriol is what these things are all about - and the current situation demands a decent level of unashamed over emotive board slagging if ever there was one. Provincial club with ambition selling a key player for 30 mi to big club - fair enough Provincial club with ambition selling the best 5-6 players has not happened before and it's happening under KL and Ralf. Krugers watch - we don't know how Cortese would have handled it but he is not here, so these guys need to explain or deliver - right now these departures are deterring any chance Koeman has of getting a squad together that is capable of ensuring we make a fight of it... finally how can anyone be satisfied with a club NOT doing all it could to build and progress on what we did last season... Which we could have done with say a 20mil spend on a decent CB and a LB cover? Yet we are told by the uber board members that rebuilding is fine....we should just accept mediocrity is what you are really saying... We have gone backwards .. And without any indication that it's part of any succession plan that has ambitions to be more than our previous prem league bottom feeders.... The board does look incredibly weak. What club would allow any club to sign three of its best players in a single window If we lose Lovren and Spider-Man then five key players will have left I cannot think of any club in the top ten that let five key players leave Ralph Krueger has hardly imposed himself he talks softly and comes across as a **** Les Reed bangs ion about how we are a top club but we just look like a soft touch If we go from top ten to relegation fodder these dicks will be responsible For goodness sake man up If they no longer wish to show how much they pay for a player it's because they don't want the fans to see how little they paid but it will out in the accounts The kids won't be enough for next season . Chambers hardly impressed The premiership,is a jungle we look like teddy bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 If Tadic does end up at Everton, then I believe we employed the wrong manager. All this bull s h i t about Koeman being able to attract the best players is no different to everything hype by the likes of Wotte and Dutchmen as a whole. Drink talks and thus bull s h i t gets spouted more often than it does at a tea party What a load of hysterical nonsense - IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Which is why the replacement should be signed, sealed and delivered BEFORE those being replaced are allowed to leave. The Lallana deal should not have been completed until the Ink was dry on the Tadic contract. There is never a guarantee you will replace with better than what you already have. It appears that I touched cloth a little prematurely as Twente's boss has just announced Tadic is signing for us. I, of course, continue to have total faith in the powers that be at St Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 interestingly on twitter @mattletiss7 agreeing with a saints supporter that the club and board lack ambition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 The number of jittery posters is increasing by the day and the 'R' word is being used more frequently. The trickle of 'bedwetters' is becoming a torrent. The club need to make a real high quality signing to stop the perception that we are in free fall and encourage other quality players that they will be signing up for a team that will be comfortable in the prem as opposed to fighting relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 (edited) The board does look incredibly weak. What club would allow any club to sign three of its best players in a single window If we lose Lovren and Spider-Man then five key players will have left I cannot think of any club in the top ten that let five key players leave Ralph Krueger has hardly imposed himself he talks softly and comes across as a **** Les Reed bangs ion about how we are a top club but we just look like a soft touch If we go from top ten to relegation fodder these dicks will be responsible For goodness sake man up If they no longer wish to show how much they pay for a player it's because they don't want the fans to see how little they paid but it will out in the accounts The kids won't be enough for next season . Chambers hardly impressed The premiership,is a jungle we look like teddy bears In what way do you want the board to man up? Rejecting £20m bids for Lovren perhaps?.....oh! What would you like to happen? Get a grip of yourself man (or boy). Edited 6 July, 2014 by kpturner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 interestingly on twitter @mattletiss7 agreeing with a saints supporter that the club and board lack ambition Well then it's official, they don't want to get on the wrong side of Matty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 interestingly on twitter @mattletiss7 agreeing with a saints supporter that the club and board lack ambition his opinion is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 interestingly on twitter @mattletiss7 agreeing with a saints supporter that the club and board lack ambition Where did he say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 his opinion is worthless. Why ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 interestingly on twitter @mattletiss7 agreeing with a saints supporter that the club and board lack ambition Can you link this as I can't see it on twitter?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 MLT has also said that players who are subject of transfer speculation should 'shut their traps' until the transfer deal in concluded either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 MLT has also said that players who are subject of transfer speculation should 'shut their traps' until the transfer deal in concluded either way This I can see. But not the criticism of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 his opinion is worthless. His 383k of followers on twitter would suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 his opinion is worthless. Maybe the case, but I'm sure he knows more about what's going on at the club than the average joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Maybe the case, but I'm sure he knows more about what's going on at the club than the average joe And the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 I what way do you want the board to man up? Rejecting £20m bids for Lovren perhaps?.....oh! What would you like to happen? Get a grip of yourself man (or boy). Er.. Manning up is stating he is not for sale end of... We have already sold too many.... Manning up is not rejecting 20 in the hope of accepting 25..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Er.. Manning up is stating he is not for sale end of... We have already sold too many.... Manning up is not rejecting 20 in the hope of accepting 25..... So how are you so sure that that they haven't said "end of"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Er.. Manning up is stating he is not for sale end of... We have already sold too many.... Manning up is not rejecting 20 in the hope of accepting 25..... Would you reject a £50m bid for Lovren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 So how are you so sure that that they haven't said "end of"? Because they have told Liverpool that they want 25M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Because they have told Liverpool that they want 25M Where? If they have then great. That represents a fantastic return for somebody who doesn't want to play for us. If they don't get what they want then he has to honour his contract. Sounds "man" enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Where? If they have then great. That represents a fantastic return for somebody who doesn't want to play for us. If they don't get what they want then he has to honour his contract. Sounds "man" enough for me. Just like we wanted 30M for Adam and 40M for Luke, in the end, both went for less. Lovren will go and it won't be for 25M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Because they have told Liverpool that they want 25M like we wanted 40 for shaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 This is an ITK snippet I shared not so long ago. There is a keenness within the club to absorb the sales with the academy - McQueen, Gallagher, Harry Reed, JWP, Targett, Chambers. We will replace players and buy players, but the club don't feel the urgency we do - in fact they see no urgency for left back what so ever right now. It is what some of us pointed out some while ago. The so called 'financial difficulties' announced by the incoming new Board seems to be the agenda - their agenda - that appears to be dominating player sales and purchases. They give an impression that they don't have a progressively long term vision. If we do not offer the asking price for talented replacements we will get nowhere. Where will the crowds come from if we don't replace the top players that have left? And how will that help our finances? (We do need to work within budgets, but how much have we been offering for Pelle? And I haven't yet heard of rumours of targets to replace Shaw, or even Fox?) We do have talented youngsters, but as 'arry said and proved 'you can't win with only youngsters'. They will only mature best by playing alongside and learning from the best. And for that reason they will want to move to bigger clubs at the first opportunity. I do believe that Les is doing his best, but has he got the wholehearted support of the Board when it comes to negotiating? I hope I am proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 like we wanted 40 for shaw? Just like we wanted 30M for Adam and 40M for Luke, in the end, both went for less. Lovren will go and it won't be for 25M. Except, of course, those top end numbers are just completely made up and no one in the club ever said that's what we would get. If we had got forty million for Shaw the forum intellegensia would be grizzling how we failed to get fifty. World record for a teenager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Should ask Lovren if he wants to cough up the other 5m to get to the 25m to sell. Let's see how keen he is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Except, of course, those top end numbers are just completely made up and no one in the club ever said that's what we would get. If we had got forty million for Shaw the forum intellegensia would be grizzling how we failed to get fifty. World record for a teenager. Regardless, Lovren will be sold no matter what valuation we put on his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 It is what some of us pointed out some while ago. The so called 'financial difficulties' announced by the incoming new Board seems to be the agenda - their agenda - that appears to be dominating player sales and purchases. They give an impression that they don't have a progressively long term vision. If we do not offer the asking price for talented replacements we will get nowhere. Where will the crowds come from if we don't replace the top players that have left? And how will that help our finances? (We do need to work within budgets, but how much have we been offering for Pelle? And I haven't yet heard of rumours of targets to replace Shaw, or even Fox?) We do have talented youngsters, but as 'arry said and proved 'you can't win with only youngsters'. They will only mature best by playing alongside and learning from the best. And for that reason they will want to move to bigger clubs at the first opportunity. I do believe that Les is doing his best, but has he got the wholehearted support of the Board when it comes to negotiating? I hope I am proved wrong. The so called 'Financial difficulties' were solely an example for why Cortese had to go. There are no financial difficulties, just an old executive who didn't want to be beholden to the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Where is the leadership? Where is the direction? If it was just one player wanting to leave, fine.... but what is it with all these players wanting out? What is tge underlying issue? BIG laugh at those sayi g Cortese is just an employee and if he left, would make no difference? With the spine of the team ripped out, you can see why Cortese wanted none of what he was told would happen. Even considering Markus, wothout Cortese, there eould have been no Liebher ownership. Losing Cortese was a loss that will be felt for a time yet to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 SB its easy to pick out one singular tweet . But what was the context the question was asked? It's so easy to distort the real facts . Just look at those dissect ings guans post today . I'm not in the know but I would say guan may now post very rarely in the future after some of the responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 The so called 'Financial difficulties' were solely an example for why Cortese had to go. There are no financial difficulties, just an old executive who didn't want to be beholden to the owner. As there are "no financial difficulties" why is that an example of why Cortese had to go. More likely an example that the new Board, in particular the Financial Director who has not been seen or heard of since didn't know what he was talking about and helped cause a lot of the difficulties by his crassly stupid comment. Cortese "had to go" because the new owner would not or could not match his ambition and would not sell to a new owner that possibly could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 If Tadic does end up at Everton, then I believe we employed the wrong manager. All this bull s h i t about Koeman being able to attract the best players is no different to everything hype by the likes of Wotte and Dutchmen as a whole. Drink talks and thus bull s h i t gets spouted more often than it does at a tea party I couldn't agree more, if Southampton don't sign some bloke most of us had never heard of two weeks ago, then the new manager who is quite clearly well respected already by the players he has met, and who has the best history in the game of any manager we have had in recent times is the wrong man for the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 SB its easy to pick out one singular tweet . But what was the context the question was asked? It's so easy to distort the real facts . Just look at those dissect ings guans post today . I'm not in the know but I would say guan may now post very rarely in the future after some of the responses I dont think anythings being directed at Guan, and to be honest, its not hard to understand why fans are frustrated, of course a few are a bit more over the top then others but the only FACTS that are open is our 4 big stars, the biggest being Morgan are edging towards the door with the majority gone or prying it open and with no replacements. Obviously the board has time to change things but right now things look pretty bleak. Its now pretty much confirmed to be that its ambition and the board that is the issue, of course, this could be just an excuse, but its hard to use an excuse that isnt there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 If Tadic does end up at Everton, then I believe we employed the wrong manager. All this bull s h i t about Koeman being able to attract the best players is no different to everything hype by the likes of Wotte and Dutchmen as a whole. Drink talks and thus bull s h i t gets spouted more often than it does at a tea party Drink does talk doesnt it.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 The so called 'Financial difficulties' were solely an example for why Cortese had to go. There are no financial difficulties, just an old executive who didn't want to be beholden to the owner. Maybe the difficult financial position he was talking about was because the owner wanted to take £50mill out the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 Maybe the difficult financial position he was talking about was because the owner wanted to take £50mill out the club? no one ever seems to consider this point..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 I dont think anythings being directed at Guan, and to be honest, its not hard to understand why fans are frustrated, of course a few are a bit more over the top then others but the only FACTS that are open is our 4 big stars, the biggest being Morgan are edging towards the door with the majority gone or prying it open and with no replacements. Obviously the board has time to change things but right now things look pretty bleak. Its now pretty much confirmed to be that its ambition and the board that is the issue, of course, this could be just an excuse, but its hard to use an excuse that isnt there. To me, the interesting things that have come out from Lovren today are "the Club now lacks ambition" and also tellingly "I don't know who is in charge". Do we still have a Board that is doing anything, other than Uncle Les? When was the last time we heard anything from the Hockey Coach, or the Financial guy from Germany (who seems to have disappeared from the face of the Earth) or even KL for that matter. Koeman can try to attract players, but in the end he doesn't pay the money, that's down to the Board, who seem to have gotten into something frankly thy don't understand. Things are certainly becoming clearer why we are in the position we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 'We will re-invest the all the transfer fees back into the squad to improve on last season' - Reed. Oh really? When might that happen then Les? Ralph? Kat? Err...knock, knock...anyone in there??? #itshappeningbutnotasweexpected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 'We will re-invest the all the transfer fees back into the squad to improve on last season' - Reed. Oh really? When might that happen then Les? Ralph? Kat? Err...knock, knock...anyone in there??? #itshappeningbutnotasweexpected It is happening, but things take time. Not entirely sure what you expected, but we're 6 days into the transfer window and 1 week into Koemans tenure. And that hash thing you do is predictably dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 To me, the interesting things that have come out from Lovren today are "the Club now lacks ambition" and also tellingly "I don't know who is in charge". Do we still have a Board that is doing anything, other than Uncle Les? When was the last time we heard anything from the Hockey Coach, or the Financial guy from Germany (who seems to have disappeared from the face of the Earth) or even KL for that matter. Koeman can try to attract players, but in the end he doesn't pay the money, that's down to the Board, who seem to have gotten into something frankly thy don't understand. Things are certainly becoming clearer why we are in the position we are now. What is it with the "the board don't know what they're doing" argument? Can you please tell me when you would ever need to hear from the "Financial guy"? When was the last time the Financial Director of any club released a statement? Of course he has "disappeared from the face of the Earth" because this is a behind the scenes role, have you taken leave of your senses? As far as Krueger goes, you don't always hear from the Chairmen of most other clubs either, except for when they are new to the role. We've had that wave of PR from him getting his name about and so now he can again fade into his behind the scenes role. The same goes for Leibherr, what could you want to hear from her? And when was the last time that Jeremy Peace or Brendon Flood came out with a PR charm offensive? Why do you need to hear from these people to feel they are doing anything? These positions are behind the scenes roles, and the only reason we were hearing from them in the first place was because we had no manager to do the talking for them. Now we have Koeman, who has a press conference on Friday, and now we don't need to rely on behind the scenes guys coming out and doing the public talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 The next week or two is HUGE! Im still optimistic it will come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 The next week or two is HUGE! Im still optimistic it will come good. I think if we sit here in 2 weeks time, on the back of RK's first couple of press calls as manager and with no new players, Lovren and Morgan gone, and OS statements such as ''We have a good bunch here already'' ''They have trained really well'' ''We will only buy if it will improve the squad'', then I think we have reason to start wondering WTF is going on, and where that £80m has vanished to. Until then, let's wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 6 July, 2014 Share Posted 6 July, 2014 What is it with the "the board don't know what they're doing" argument? Can you please tell me when you would ever need to hear from the "Financial guy"? When was the last time the Financial Director of any club released a statement? Of course he has "disappeared from the face of the Earth" because this is a behind the scenes role, have you taken leave of your senses? As far as Krueger goes, you don't always hear from the Chairmen of most other clubs either, except for when they are new to the role. We've had that wave of PR from him getting his name about and so now he can again fade into his behind the scenes role. The same goes for Leibherr, what could you want to hear from her? And when was the last time that Jeremy Peace or Brendon Flood came out with a PR charm offensive? Why do you need to hear from these people to feel they are doing anything? These positions are behind the scenes roles, and the only reason we were hearing from them in the first place was because we had no manager to do the talking for them. Now we have Koeman, who has a press conference on Friday, and now we don't need to rely on behind the scenes guys coming out and doing the public talking. We'll find out just what happened to this years funds only when the financials are released, then we can moan with potentially good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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