terrasaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Apologies if already covered but just come up on ssn that Lovren not for sale according to the club.
SuperSAINT Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Apologies if already covered but just come up on ssn that Lovren not for sale according to the club. Wouldn't really matter - We've just seen if a player wants to go, he goes... And if that player was our captain who's been here for 14 years, a bloke who allegedly handed in a transfer request after 1 season is hardly going to stick around.
farawaysaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Huzzah! Let's keep the rest of the team for this season please? Sell Lovren and Morgan next June by all means once we've got some replacements in but you can't disembowel an entire team.
notnowcato Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Huzzah! Let's keep the rest of the team for this season please? Sell Lovren and Morgan next June by all means once we've got some replacements in but you can't disembowel an entire team. that would take a lot of guts..
Saints foreva Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Well he wants to go and I suspect he will get his own way, just like Lallana did.
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Apologies if already covered but just come up on ssn that Lovren not for sale according to the club. Oh dear, that means he'll be off soon.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Well he wants to go and I suspect he will get his own way, just like Lallana did. Or Shaw or Lambert... You have to wonder why internationals don't want to play for us really.
sadoldgit Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Or Shaw or Lambert... You have to wonder why internationals don't want to play for us really. Have I missed something? Does that mean Davis, Yoshida and others are refusing to play now?
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Have I missed something? Does that mean Davis, Yoshida and others are refusing to play now? Minor league internationals don't count, they're bit part players not particularly desired elsewhere.
DuncanRG Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 (edited) Or Shaw or Lambert... You have to wonder why internationals don't want to play for us really. Because better teams want them. Tadic is a Serbian international and looks to be coming here because we are a more attractive proposition than his current club, Twente. He would also fancy a move to Manchester United or Liverpool if those clubs wanted him. That's how it works. The important thing is how selling (or non-selling) clubs can ensure the right result for them, be that keeping the player or receiving enough compensation to make their departure worth it. Edited 2 July, 2014 by DuncanRG
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Because better teams want them. Tadic is a Serbian international and looks to be coming here because we are a more attractive proposition than his current club, Twente. And hopefully we'll offer more than Schalke or Seville for him, remains to be seen.
Matthew Le God Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 (edited) Or Shaw or Lambert... You have to wonder why internationals don't want to play for us really. How is this escaping you? Lallana and Lambert went to Liverpool, with huge wages and Champions League football on offer. Shaw went to Man Utd and had a huge wage increase and better chance of European football in the future. If those players played for Newcastle, Aston Villa, Stoke, West ham etc they would also leave if the club was offered enough. Edited 2 July, 2014 by Matthew Le God
farawaysaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 How is this alluding you? Lallana and Lambert went to Liverpool, with huge wages and Champions League football. Shaw went to Man Utd and had a huge wage increase and better chance of European football in the future. Dear MLG, Allude means to call attention to indirectly, Elude means to evade, HTH
View From The Top Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 How is this alluding you? Lallana and Lambert went to Liverpool, with huge wages and Champions League football on offer. Shaw went to Man Utd and had a huge wage increase and better chance of European football in the future. If those players played for Newcastle, Aston Villa, Stoke, West ham etc they would also leave if the club was offered enough. It would appear obvious to everyone bar those who seem to want everything to fall apart.
notnowcato Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 How is this escaping you? Lallana and Lambert went to Liverpool, with huge wages and Champions League football on offer. Shaw went to Man Utd and had a huge wage increase and better chance of European football in the future. If those players played for Newcastle, Aston Villa, Stoke, West ham etc they would also leave if the club was offered enough. Lambert did not leave us for big wages. 2 year deal at £40K per week.
ART Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 SKY reporting that Koeman doesn't want to let any more players leave. Saints hope to keep Lovren Wednesday 2nd July 2014 14:29 Sky sources understand that Southampton are reluctant to let any other players leave, despite speculation linking Dejan Lovren with a possible move. Saints have already sold three of their star players this summer, with midfielder Adam Lallana and striker Rickie Lambert joining Liverpool, while defender Luke Shaw has signed for Manchester United. The loss of the England trio has weakened the squad at St Mary's and reports have suggested that Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs are keen to lure defender Lovren away. But new manager Ronald Koeman is determined to keep the rest of his players as he starts planning for the upcoming Premier League campaign. The Dutchman, who succeeded Mauricio Pochettino last month, is more interested in recruiting players, with the club thought to have tabled a bid for Feyenoord striker Graziano Pelle. Saints are also thought to be closing on a deal for winger Dusan Tadic after agreeing a fee with FC Twente.
Matthew Le God Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Lambert did not leave us for big wages. 2 year deal at £40K per week. Champions League football, home town club, he was never going to want to turn down such an opportunity.
alpine_saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 So what ? If he wants to go, he'll just do a Lallana. Even more reason to call Lallana a c**t.
notnowcato Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Champions League football, home town club, he was never going to want to turn down such an opportunity. Just correcting your inaccuracy.
Matthew Le God Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Dear MLG, Allude means to call attention to indirectly, Elude means to evade, HTH I know, was a brain freeze moment.
sadoldgit Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 How is this escaping you? Lallana and Lambert went to Liverpool, with huge wages and Champions League football on offer. Shaw went to Man Utd and had a huge wage increase and better chance of European football in the future. If those players played for Newcastle, Aston Villa, Stoke, West ham etc they would also leave if the club was offered enough. If our players were leaving for Newcastle, Aston Villa, Stoke, West Ham etc I could understand the bed wetters' point of view. The fact that they have left for top flight clubs makes it a little easier to swallow.
Matthew Le God Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Just correcting your inaccuracy. I'd say £2m p/a wages plus Champions League football still fits in with my original wording.
Saint_Abroad Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Hopefully buying a Serbian will encourage him to stay Rockin Ronnie may have to hold off on resistance training using Kalashnikovs for the immediate future. But seriously, what's some ethnic cleansing among friends.
melmacian_saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 So this kind of confirms that Lovren (or at least his agent) wants to leave.
notnowcato Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 I'd say £2m p/a wages plus Champions League football still fits in with my original wording. It's not too late to change your ways.... Just to assist you along the way - you said he left for big money AND champs league football. As his salary hasn't increased significantly, if at all, it is not a factor in Rickie leaving.
Nolan Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 So this kind of confirms that Lovren (or at least his agent) wants to leave. Why... All of confirms is that the papers and media need to stop talking. 9 days since croatia's final game, and everything but the media has been quiet.
sadoldgit Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Minor league internationals don't count, they're bit part players not particularly desired elsewhere. Gareth Bale and Ryan Gigs are both "minor league internationals." I bet SteveDavis is impressed with your assessment of him too. A lot have him down for one of our best performers last year.
sussexsaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Minor league internationals don't count, they're bit part players not particularly desired elsewhere. for inferring that England aren't a minor league international team
Dig Dig Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 If our players were leaving for Newcastle, Aston Villa, Stoke, West Ham etc I could understand the bed wetters' point of view. The fact that they have left for top flight clubs makes it a little easier to swallow. The bed wetters are merely pointing out that no club should be prepared to let all their best players leave in one window just because a big club wants them. If we have drawn the line in the sand now then, great, but I doubt we will keep Lovren or Morgan.
VectisSaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Shaw went to Man Utd and had a huge wage increase and better chance of European football in the future. Makes me laugh that Buttner said he left Manure and joined Moscow (not sure which variety) to get CL football.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Makes me laugh that Buttner said he left Manure and joined Moscow (not sure which variety) to get CL football. and they even made a profit on him. Well probably not if you count 2 years salary for doing nothing I suppose.
VectisSaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 9 days since croatia's final game, and everything but the media has been quiet. What else is there to not be quiet other than "the Media"? Unless you have a personal direct conversation with Lovren maybe. How else would you know if anything is being said?
Dellman Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 When a team is relegated its not unusual to see players rush to get away but have you ever sen a rush of players trying to get a way from a team that ended 8th and had everything in its favour? That's why I think the board or the vision must seem weak to the players.
Nolan Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 What else is there to not be quiet other than "the Media"? Unless you have a personal direct conversation with Lovren maybe. How else would you know if anything is being said? Phrased that badly. Should said more along the lines of "there have been no murmurings of discontent", at least since the world cup finished for Croatia.
VectisSaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Gareth Bale and Ryan Gigs are both "minor league internationals." I bet SteveDavis is impressed with your assessment of him too. A lot have him down for one of our best performers last year. I don't think it was meant as an indictment of the individual players. But it is the way to go in the future, only recruit international players who play for no-hope teams (in terms of getting to major finals), such as Kenya, Serbia, NornIreland, Scotland, Wales, Poland. The exception to this rule is England, no hopers but don't recruit otherwise they will get tapped up by Stevie Geeeeeeeee.
Saint Billy Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 When a team is relegated its not unusual to see players rush to get away but have you ever sen a rush of players trying to get a way from a team that ended 8th and had everything in its favour? That's why I think the board or the vision must seem weak to the players. It's money, nothing else but money. Saints do not pay big salaries so footballers being mercenaries in the main will sniff out the golden apple. Ok, if Lambert is only on 40k at Livertool he is the exception, but most of them will spout boll*cks about wanting Champions league football, or I supported them as a kid, or it's my spiritual home, or I want to develop my career, or I want to enhance my chances of playing for my country, it is all utter guff. Why dont they just fekin come out with it, their 50% tax deduction only leaves them with 100k per month, the wife wants another sprog and we need at least a 1mil house, the sponsors are only giving me a basic Range Rover Sport and I want the top model so I will have to pay for it and the wife can have the basic one, a footballers career is very short and I need at least 5mil to live on once I retire because I am too thick to do anything else. Love saints hate football.
SaintRobbie Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Apologies if already covered but just come up on ssn that Lovren not for sale according to the club. Blimey is Les Reed showing some steal? Stand firm Les. Stand firm.
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 ...and the first word is strike is it - cease work as a protest - sell for a massive profit, or - refuse allow an asset to be sold which is true and which is a bluff? Les......
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