rshephard3 Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 They can pay him what they want but just now they can't magically produce European football which is what it's all about in his case. In his first FFF interview he said that he'd reached the Footballer's Grail (ie the senior national side) he will not want to throw that away, I have told you before how DD's mind works, big club is better than little club and a slightly poorer player with CL experience is better than a better one without. He's not going to throw all of that away, in my opinion it would break him totally if after being a bit part player at the WC he fell into obscurity in favour of a lesser player from Monaco,PSG or Porto (they all have candidates) We saw against Ecuador that Morgan has surpassed Mavuba for the right to be Cabaye's understudy, he'll want to go on from there now and be first choice in the role as Cabaye is injury prone,poorly disciplined and pushing 29 (I think). Morgan will leave this summer and no amount of money will keep him here. I fear you're spot on. This summer is providing plenty of evidence of a totally broken market. I can see why the likes of Stoke & WHU choose to fill their clubs with 30 year old plodders in the knowledge that they will maintain mid table prem football and not have to make wholesale changes every time a transfer window comes along. Ours is a risky strategy as every summer you're replacing about 4 first teamers. Even when a golden season comes along you can't truly compete beyond 8th place. Ah well, wouldn't swap Saints for the world, just a slightly demoralising situation I guess.
ART Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Wenger has been working for French TV and reportedly is staying the same hotel as the French Team. I've been following Morgan's official Facebook and quotes in the French Media. To date I've not seen anything to give the impression he's leaving. On Facebook he wished Shaw and Adam good luck with their new clubs, quoting. "we're going to miss them both." Who is "WE". I believe it refers to team mates at Saints.
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Wenger has been working for French TV and reportedly is staying the same hotel as the French Team. I've been following Morgan's official Facebook and quotes in the French Media. To date I've not seen anything to give the impression he's leaving. On Facebook he wished Shaw and Adam good luck with their new clubs, quoting. "we're going to miss them both." Who is "WE". I believe it refers to team mates at Saints. Morgan is a very discreet young man, take it from me, he's leaving.
richard Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Morgan is a very discreet young man, take it from me, he's leaving. You seem fairly sure. Do you have connections with the player or is this a theory of yours?
CB Saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Arsenal have made a formal enquiry as to his availability apparently. http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2014/arsenal-enquire-about-morgan-schneiderlin/ I hope we told the cheap git to get stuffed. Easy answer "Arsene, you know that Ozil chap? Numbers in that vicinity s'il vous plait?"
Saint_Abroad Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Morgan is a very discreet young man You sayin he's a down low brother?
Saint-Armstrong Posted 2 July, 2014 Author Posted 2 July, 2014 Not sure how much attention we should pay to it, but Morgan favourited/liked this tweet from Jordan Sibley: "Great start to pre-season - Sammy Lee & Dave Watson have joined the coaching team, whilst Martin Hunter becomes Technical Director #saintsfc"
simo Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 If he goes I will be fuming (even more so than after the other 3 leaving) if we don't demand top top money for him , he is arguably one of the best about in his position therefore the price MUST reflect that i want at least 30m 35/40 with add ons !
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 If he goes I will be fuming (even more so than after the other 3 leaving) if we don't demand top top money for him , he is arguably one of the best about in his position therefore the price MUST reflect that i want at least 30m 35/40 with add ons ! You may be desperately disappointed then, we won't get half of the upper figure. May even have a buy out clause, who knows, very standard with non-English players.
simo Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 You may be desperately disappointed then, we won't get half of the upper figure. May even have a buy out clause, who knows, very standard with non-English players. Then I'm afraid he'll have to stay
aintforever Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 (edited) The club have to draw the line with players leaving now, we simply can't afford to lose Schneiderlin or Lovren. We have plenty of cash, if they want to strike just let them and buy a replacement, if we keep caving in we are just going to open the door for others to leave. We should never have sold Lambert imo, that sent out the wrong message. Edited 2 July, 2014 by aintforever
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Then I'm afraid he'll have to stay I'll let him know then, via the bush telegraph of course. Should only take a month or so to reach him.
Goatboy Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 I'll let him know then, via the bush telegraph of course. Should only take a month or so to reach him. And yet you seem to know what he is thinking in real time. How so?
Webby Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 I'll be gutted if Schneiderlin leaves. Lambert's a legend, Shaw a brilliant young talent, and Lallana a gifted player but I feel that Schneiderlin is the real jewel in our crown. He's central to the way we play and one of the best in his position. He showed that when he replaced Cabaye in the 3rd group game; IMO he was better than Cabaye. He's worth at least 25m, if not more.
S-Clarke Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Also interesting looking at his twitter....congratulated Luke on his move, but zilch for Lallana - not even a mention on his time line. Maybe he ****ed more people off than we realise with his big arse antics?
LFC185 Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Schneiderlin is a fantastic player and I hope you do keep him. Since your promotion he's been my favourite southampton player. I love the way he goes about things and his intelligence on and off the ball. Superb. Although I disagree that he was better than Cabaye in France's group game. TBH he was quite poor in that game - compared to his usual performances.
saint_ed Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Also interesting looking at his twitter....congratulated Luke on his move, but zilch for Lallana - not even a mention on his time line. Maybe he ****ed more people off than we realise with his big arse antics? Has Adam even got twitter? Don't see why he would bother if he couldn't tag him in it.
S-Clarke Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Has Adam even got twitter? Don't see why he would bother if he couldn't tag him in it. Good point, I know he used to. Maybe he has a hidden one...who knows. But probably for the best right now as he would have been utterly destroyed.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Morgan is a very discreet young man, take it from me, he's leaving. This the same as you saying we were asset stripping
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 This the same as you saying we were asset stripping Are we not ? Who knows, we've sold for plenty, now we need to buy for as least as much to make Reed's statement exact. Sales are currently around 60 million £ since last January, probably more, we've spent nothing and seem to be going for low grade players, better ones may be in view but for the time being we've made large profits in cash.
Goatboy Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Are we not ? Who knows, we've sold for plenty, now we need to buy for as least as much to make Reed's statement exact. Sales are currently around 60 million £ since last January, probably more, we've spent nothing and seem to be going for low grade players, better ones may be in view but for the time being we've made large profits in cash. Why is it essential to spend exactly what we receive?
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Are we not ? Who knows, we've sold for plenty, now we need to buy for as least as much to make Reed's statement exact. Sales are currently around 60 million £ since last January, probably more, we've spent nothing and seem to be going for low grade players, better ones may be in view but for the time being we've made large profits in cash. How do you define 'asset stripping'? It sounds to me like you don't know what it is.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Why is it essential to spend exactly what we receive? It sounds to me like we won't have to, in which we should bank the remainder until Jan, or next Summer.
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Posted 2 July, 2014 Why is it essential to spend exactly what we receive? Not a penny more and not a penny less. WC is keeping a spreadsheet so he can calculate it.
Killers Knee Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Talksport's Hawksbee and Jacobs were just chatting about the player exodus from St Mary's, and they mentioned Luke Shaw being on £160,000 a week. Then they talked about Morgan Schneiderlin earning a colossal £9k a week at St Mary's. Surely this is horribly wrong? To be exactly clear they said they didn't know if it was his basic wage or wage plus bonuses that equalled £9k but that was a shock to me. Shaw is now on a deal that is over 1600% more than Morgan and Luke's never crossed a decent ball, created an assist, had a decent shot or scored a goal in his life (very slight over exaggeration).
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 I cannot see him being on 9k a week personally
Killers Knee Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Amazing bang for your buck, is there a better value for money player in the Premiership?
SimplyRed&White Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Lambert & Lallana were on about £25K per week not the high figures reported before.
Saint Charlie Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 He obviously isnt on that. It comes from that Goal report which is clearly rubbish.
Beckenham Saint Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 That's probably what he takes home after tax and things like agent fees, no?
Fan The Flames Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 There is no way either of those figures are right.
Matthew Le God Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 (edited) Saints had a wage bill of £47m in 2012/13. In 2013/14 it would have past the £50m mark with Osvaldo, Wanyama and Lovren joining and a large number of existing players signing new bigger deals. I'd like to see Talksport explain how Saints can have a £50m+ wage bill if key players like Schneiderlin are only on £468,000 per year. Where is the rest of the money going? It is so wrong, it is frankly laughable to suggest Schneiderlin (who signed a new deal in 2013) is on £9k p/w! Edited 3 July, 2014 by Matthew Le God
Bearsy Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 it ain't talksport it's in the ole current bun £9k pw FACT and that he could dbl this at napoli or arsenal or something
Dig Dig Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Could be basic with the rest made up in performance related pay. Wasn't Cortese hot on performance based salarys?
angelman Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Could be basic with the rest made up in performance related pay. Wasn't Cortese hot on performance based salarys? Is that why he paid himself £38k a week?
Killers Knee Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Thanks Bearsy: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/5730077/Morgan-Schneiderlin-could-double-wages-with-Napoli-move.html They must have based the figure on this article
buctootim Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Saints had a wage bill of £47m in 2012/13. In 2013/14 it would have past the £50m mark with Osvaldo, Wanyama and Lovren joining and a large number of existing players signing new bigger deals. I'd like to see Talksport explain how Saints can have a £50m+ wage bill if key players like Schneiderlin are only on £468,000 per year. Where is the rest of the money going? It is so wrong, it is frankly laughable to suggest Schneiderlin (who signed a new deal in 2013) is on £9k p/w! The entire club only has 200 employees and £50m divided by 200 gives an average of £5,000pw - including all the groundsmen, ticket office, catering, media accounts etc. Its pretty safe to assume that the average first team players are on at least £25,000pw +
Gorgiesaint Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 I did see a comment on the Sky Sports paper talk section which linked to the Daily Star and that Napoli were planning to bid for Morgan, quoting wages of £800k pa - which would have been £16k pw. I laughed that off at the time, surely he has to be on at least £20-25k pw. http://www1.skysports.com/football/transfer-paper-talk Southampton midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin has been offered an £800,000-a-year deal to join Napoli. Can't see any mention on the Daily Star site.
Dig Dig Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Is that why he paid himself £38k a week? It's a good performance
shurlock Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Morgan was put on 17K pw when we were promoted to the prem. FACT
Snopper Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 Morgan was put on 17K pw when we were promoted to the prem. FACT I`m surprised he`s able to make ends meet. Must be a struggle.
Saint_Abroad Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 (edited) I`m surprised he`s able to make ends meet. Must be a struggle. How do you think he feels? J-Rod shows up in a Porsche, Morgan just hopes the bus isn't delayed so he won't have to take a personal day for arriving late to the training ground. Edited 3 July, 2014 by Saint_Abroad
Essruu Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 How do you think he feels? J-Rod shows up in a Porsche, Morgan just hopes the bus isn't delayed so he won't have to take a personal day for arriving late to the training ground. If the bus is ever late, he could always just jump in his Maserati, or his missus' BMW, I suppose.
The Cat Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 If the bus is ever late, he could always just jump in his Maserati, or his missus' BMW, I suppose. Or get a taxi.
Saint_Abroad Posted 3 July, 2014 Posted 3 July, 2014 If the bus is ever late, he could always just jump in his Maserati, or his missus' BMW, I suppose. Not at 9k/week, my friend. He probably went to Brazil for no other reason than to duck the landlady who's been hassling him for rent money. "O no is it June 1 already, wow. I sent you that cheque, you didn't get it? Listen I'm in Brazil and I only have Brazilian Rupees on me so by....what's that Arsene, listen lady I have to go."
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