washsaint Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Put up or shut up! You used to post some fairly interesting stuff but not any more.....full of nudge, nudge, wink, wink I'm ITK without saying anything of any note. We're still waiting for these bombshells you were going to share because of your unique position with Saints. I'm not Nostradamus but we could all have predicted Shaw, lallana (and probably Lovren too) would be off as well as Pochettino. Like many of the deluded fantasists on this forum, you seem to think that if NC was here none of these players would be leaving. And that is absolute twaddle: if a player wants out then they will leave. Personally, I'd far rather we had players here committed to the cause as opposed to prima donnas wanting out. We are not, and likely never will be, a club of the stature of Arsenal, Man U, Man City, etc and while not ideal that is the truth. Doesn't make them leaving any more palatable but there is squat we (or the club) can do about it. Feel free to slate the Board and the club if we fail to bring in adequate replacements. For all any of us know we may actually strengthen the squad (although individual players may not be as high a caliber as those sold) and improve on last season. Guan seems to be OK with what is lined up and - unlike you - does not seem to have an agenda to attack the club at every opportunity. And I didn't see you, with all your ITK capabilities predicting we would land Koeman as manager. Sure you probably thought limit of our ambition was someone like Steve Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Poor old crabby. What a complete f*cking prat he looks now. I wonder if he'll show Alpine's predilection for never admitting he was wrong. I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 We'll see how stupid I look in the next couple of weeks to a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 We'll see how stupid I look in the next couple of weeks to a month. Lungs you are a top lad....stop digging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Lungs you are a top lad....stop digging Thanks Gem but sadly, it's not going to be pretty, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Thanks Gem but sadly, it's not going to be pretty, is it? Its not, but people seem to like pretending we can replace all these class players with unproven PL signings and youth players that were bit part last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Its not, but people seem to like pretending we can replace all these class players with unproven PL signings and youth players that were bit part last season. I think some should read through my posts over the past few weeks and then they'll see that I'm not just being a misery guts for the sake of it... likewise, you've been saying the same, too. Oh well, glossy video montage of Morgan coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Thanks Gem but sadly, it's not going to be pretty, is it? It will be fine - Maybe not future proof, but my prediction is player for player we will be stronger on day 1 of the new season, than we were on the last day of the previous season. Koeman is a massive signing, he isn't here to throw his career down the drain. The volume of players leaving will of course mean that a bedding in period will be required, but that's football. Cortese had a 100% record of selling wanted players, to the top premiership clubs, nothing would be different under his command. In fact I salute whoever is doing the negotiating we have ******* raped them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 I'm glad someone started this thread. CL I used to really enjoy your posts back in the day, I don't know whats happened to you. What is the reason your not expanding on your hints and nudges? Is it that you don't want to over commit so you look silly if it doesn't happen? Are you now not allowed to? Even back during the infamous takeover threads you used to share 'ITK' information via pm which never actually came to fruition so please put up or shut up. Anyone can say 'well, well, well' etc when another players departs. The writing is on the wall whether you are genuinely ITK or not, I can also play that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Poor old crabby. What a complete f*cking prat he looks now. I wonder if he'll show Alpine's predilection for never admitting he was wrong. I doubt it. Sorry The Kraken but Alpine has admitted to being wrong in another thread today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 28 June, 2014 Author Share Posted 28 June, 2014 What a surprise.....Crab Lungs comes on with a well, well, well statement. very good Crabs - full of information. You truly are making yourself look a prat with your constant negativity and nudge, nudge, wink, wink nothing statements. I'm sure more will leave but others will come in: and that really is the time to judge the Boards intentions. Does that make me ITK like you? Lets face it - do you really want the Board to bust the bank to pay outrageous money to players we can't afford with our small gates? Have you not forgotten what happened last time that approach was tried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 It will be fine - Maybe not future proof, but my prediction is player for player we will be stronger on day 1 of the new season, than we were on the last day of the previous season. Koeman is a massive signing, he isn't here to throw his career down the drain. The volume of players leaving will of course mean that a bedding in period will be required, but that's football. Cortese had a 100% record of selling wanted players, to the top premiership clubs, nothing would be different under his command. In fact I salute whoever is doing the negotiating we have ******* raped them This. You have summed up my thoughts succinctly. A lot will depend on Big Ron's choices over the next few weeks, of course, but I am hoping that his tactical nous will improve us as a team. MoPo could be a little one-dimensional in his tactics at times and I think this will change. Whatever happens, I don't think the coming season will be dull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 Put up or shut up! You used to post some fairly interesting stuff but not any more.....full of nudge, nudge, wink, wink I'm ITK without saying anything of any note. We're still waiting for these bombshells you were going to share because of your unique position with Saints. I'm not Nostradamus but we could all have predicted Shaw, lallana (and probably Lovren too) would be off as well as Pochettino. Like many of the deluded fantasists on this forum, you seem to think that if NC was here none of these players would be leaving. And that is absolute twaddle: if a player wants out then they will leave. Personally, I'd far rather we had players here committed to the cause as opposed to prima donnas wanting out. We are not, and likely never will be, a club of the stature of Arsenal, Man U, Man City, etc and while not ideal that is the truth. Doesn't make them leaving any more palatable but there is squat we (or the club) can do about it. Feel free to slate the Board and the club if we fail to bring in adequate replacements. For all any of us know we may actually strengthen the squad (although individual players may not be as high a caliber as those sold) and improve on last season. Guan seems to be OK with what is lined up and - unlike you - does not seem to have an agenda to attack the club at every opportunity. And I didn't see you, with all your ITK capabilities predicting we would land Koeman as manager. Sure you probably thought limit of our ambition was someone like Steve Bruce. We do have a unique situation though- in that is not just 1 or 2 key players who have left. It's looking very likely that we will lose 4-6 and all of those being spine or the experience that led to our progress. It's going to be a huge challenge for any manager, to firstlly try and attract replacements of a similar calibre, the gell them in time for the start of the season etc. In addition, we hear rumour that faith will be placed in the next wave of academy starlets... None of which have yet shown they are of that level...yet... All in a division that is unforgiving of any weakness from day 1. Yes, Ronald May do something great and we all hope his experience and name will help us attract some quality and build a more flexible team tactically... But to expect him to be able to do that in 2 months let alone 1 season is naive. Can anyone name a club that has sold 5 or more key players - the heart of the side - and done better the the following season, irrespective of who they have bought? I can't think of one. Probably easier to find many examples of clubs that have seriously struggled as a result. I would pose one question though. Forget the Liebherr rescue for a moment - because it should be irrelevant when looking to judge the strategy for progress - but what would those who still remain positive and supportive of the direction the club is going think if exactly the same was happening but being driven by a someone like Lowe? Surely, the mature and sensible approach is to judge actions and outcomes, not personalities. We don't yet know the outcome of the current actions, but it easy to see why. Some are worried and expressing that concern, given what we have seen so far, instead we get sound bites about how great it is that we can sell our best talent for so much... Fantastic 'business' yes, but when did fans start applauding good business when it left us weaker on the pitch? Its almost as if because we came close to the brink and were rescued by a decent man, some on here are now unwilling to accept that the club can any wrong, or that the 'rescue' is a get-out-gaol-free' card... Well all some are saying is that it's card that can only be used for so long... If we struggle this season and end up going down, will you guys still be as defensive of the regime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 Put up or shut up! You used to post some fairly interesting stuff but not any more.....full of nudge, nudge, wink, wink I'm ITK without saying anything of any note. We're still waiting for these bombshells you were going to share because of your unique position with Saints. I'm not Nostradamus but we could all have predicted Shaw, lallana (and probably Lovren too) would be off as well as Pochettino. Like many of the deluded fantasists on this forum, you seem to think that if NC was here none of these players would be leaving. And that is absolute twaddle: if a player wants out then they will leave. Personally, I'd far rather we had players here committed to the cause as opposed to prima donnas wanting out. We are not, and likely never will be, a club of the stature of Arsenal, Man U, Man City, etc and while not ideal that is the truth. Doesn't make them leaving any more palatable but there is squat we (or the club) can do about it. Feel free to slate the Board and the club if we fail to bring in adequate replacements. For all any of us know we may actually strengthen the squad (although individual players may not be as high a caliber as those sold) and improve on last season. Guan seems to be OK with what is lined up and - unlike you - does not seem to have an agenda to attack the club at every opportunity. And I didn't see you, with all your ITK capabilities predicting we would land Koeman as manager. Sure you probably thought limit of our ambition was someone like Steve Bruce. This seems entirely unnecessary to me. If his posts are annoying you, just use the ignore button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 The biggest load of twaddle in that OP was the bit about how the players would've still left if Cortese was still here. No. They wouldn't. Poch would be here and so would the players. Cortese is gone now, we can all move on, but let's not try and kid ourselves that if he was still here all this would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 The biggest load of twaddle in that OP was the bit about how the players would've still left if Cortese was still here. No. They wouldn't. Poch would be here and so would the players. Cortese is gone now, we can all move on, but let's not try and kid ourselves that if he was still here all this would have happened. Poch would have been sacked for failing to meet NCs target of a top four finish (NC had according to Blackmore already threatened to sack mopo once and their relationship was apparently frosty). NC said himself in his interview after leaving saints that he only had one serious official offer for a saint player and that was Oxo............. who left. People can try hiding in a fantasy worlds were NC stayed and all was well, but it's just that a fantasy, after our finish last season with so many players playing well we were always going to get mugged by the bigger clubs this close season. Players are being offered more money to play at a higher level than Saints there is nothing we can do to compete with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 [/b] Sorry The Kraken but Alpine has admitted to being wrong in another thread today. Alpines get out clauses are he is happy to be proven wrong or his new one that he didn't make that post, one of his kids did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 The biggest load of twaddle in that OP was the bit about how the players would've still left if Cortese was still here. No. They wouldn't. Poch would be here and so would the players. Cortese is gone now, we can all move on, but let's not try and kid ourselves that if he was still here all this would have happened. The biggest load of twaddle on this thread is people posting as FACT that players would turn down the biggest clubs in the world, champions league football, a far greater chance of winning things and 3 to 4 times their wages because the chairman was a great guy who told them what they wanted to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 The biggest load of twaddle on this thread is people posting as FACT that players would turn down the biggest clubs in the world, champions league football, a far greater chance of winning things and 3 to 4 times their wages because the chairman was a great guy who told them what they wanted to hear. Turkish I can see you are part of the chosen ones who are being pulled along by the nostrils by Krueger and Reed, but Spurs are not one of the biggest clubs in the world and they may well. E taking some of our players as well as the manager. I agree N C did sell but when he did we were in a lower league and not in the position we are now. NC still here and I would expect. MP still here as well, Shaw would have gone as well as RL but I doubt most of the spine would still be happy here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 Put up or shut up! You used to post some fairly interesting stuff but not any more.....full of nudge, nudge, wink, wink I'm ITK without saying anything of any note. We're still waiting for these bombshells you were going to share because of your unique position with Saints. I'm not Nostradamus but we could all have predicted Shaw, lallana (and probably Lovren too) would be off as well as Pochettino. Like many of the deluded fantasists on this forum, you seem to think that if NC was here none of these players would be leaving. And that is absolute twaddle: if a player wants out then they will leave. Personally, I'd far rather we had players here committed to the cause as opposed to prima donnas wanting out. We are not, and likely never will be, a club of the stature of Arsenal, Man U, Man City, etc and while not ideal that is the truth. Doesn't make them leaving any more palatable but there is squat we (or the club) can do about it. Feel free to slate the Board and the club if we fail to bring in adequate replacements. For all any of us know we may actually strengthen the squad (although individual players may not be as high a caliber as those sold) and improve on last season. Guan seems to be OK with what is lined up and - unlike you - does not seem to have an agenda to attack the club at every opportunity. And I didn't see you, with all your ITK capabilities predicting we would land Koeman as manager. Sure you probably thought limit of our ambition was someone like Steve Bruce. I don't think it is twaddle ASk yourself WHY are the players wanting to leave ?? Simple really, SFC has changed. The whole impetus of us moving FORWARD has shifted, because Katharina's thinking is nothing like Markus's. CEO was "forced" out, because of a major shift of direction by Katharina. That has has a Domino effect. Manager saw the Goalpost's change and decided to leave. Players have seen the same and are leaving also NO real effort to change the players minds have been made by the Club. How can they ?? They have nothing new to say. Katharinas plan should be plain to everybody. If you want a new player, sell one first. Stay in the Prem if you can, but if not, we will still have loads in the Bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 I don't think it is twaddle ASk yourself WHY are the players wanting to leave ?? Simple really, SFC has changed. The whole impetus of us moving FORWARD has shifted, because Katharina's thinking is nothing like Markus's. CEO was "forced" out, because of a major shift of direction by Katharina. That has has a Domino effect. Manager saw the Goalpost's change and decided to leave. Players have seen the same and are leaving also NO real effort to change the players minds have been made by the Club. How can they ?? They have nothing new to say. Katharinas plan should be plain to everybody. If you want a new player, sell one first. Stay in the Prem if you can, but if not, we will still have loads in the Bank err a big pay raise at a bigger club that can offer more opportunities than saints. Simple really. No amount of hot air about ambitions for Europe from the club is going to compete with a big wedge of cash and the chance to play in Europe right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 Guys, as an observer mostly CL has never demonstrated being ITK and what is the apparent unique position? He's a genuine fan like the rest of us so even if he is annoying just cut him some slack. There are disturbing enough topics out there at the moment but this thread is showing that the forum is in danger of eating itself. Chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 Not sure that individual threads aimed at particular posters are very constructive. We have lots of other discussion on other threads about meltdown / brave new dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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