Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Clearly Shaw and Lallana ARE off, let's not be silly about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Surprise, surprise. More to follow in next couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Surprise, surprise. More to follow in next couple of weeks. You have a lovely way of making it sound like you're pleased about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Surprise, surprise. More to follow in next couple of weeks. So where is this thread you have been on about where you are going to spill all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 I'm not, Mints. Far from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 And.... Bye bye Adam, all done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 I'm not, Mints. Far from it. And yet most of your posts of late have seemingly focused on your desire to inform us all how bad it's going to be. I thought your emo days were behind you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Anyone remember where a fair share of the Shearer money went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronCitySaint Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 So our two best players leave in one day, just a couple of days after getting back from the World Cup. Don't reckon the new manager would even have spoken to them. On this basis we better hope the world cup lasts until September 1 as when the other players start getting back this could get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 So our two best players leave in one day, just a couple of days after getting back from the World Cup. Don't reckon the new manager would even have spoken to them. On this basis we better hope the world cup lasts until September 1 as when the other players start getting back this could get ugly. Add Guly, SRL and Mopo, plus Dodd and Williams being booted out .... would the last one out please switch off the New All Singing All Dancing LED Lights please!! Hopefully the revolving door will be going in the other direction soon as we sign a host of World Class replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Well the OS now has Morgan and Gaston in replace of Lallana and Shaw. So I guess maybe hopefully they at least are staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 The more I think about it the more I can see leaving. Nothing would surprise me. I have had a feeling for a while that a mass exodus may be on the cards. We will have, like it or not is a huge turnover of players this summer making the club a tidy sum to re-invest over transfer windows. I've said it before on another thread but football is cyclical and the biggest end of cycle occurs every four years after the World Cup. In 2010 as we looked forward to what we hoped would be our promotion season from League 1 we were pretty much immune from this cyclical change due to our lowly league position. We are in a much more high profile position these days so are in somewhat uncharted territory. I suppose it's something we need to get used to. Anyway Worse case scenario. Shaw - Man U Lallana - Liverpool Lambert - Liverpool Lovren - Barca/Spurs Schneiderlin - Arsenal/PSG/Bayern Munich Chambers - Spurs Osvaldo - Italy Ramirez - Italy Wanyama - Spurs Clyne - Spurs Fonte - Other Prem Cork - Other Prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 The more I think about it the more I can see leaving. Nothing would surprise me. I have had a feeling for a while that a mass exodus may be on the cards. We will have, like it or not is a huge turnover of players this summer making the club a tidy sum to re-invest over transfer windows. I've said it before on another thread but football is cyclical and the biggest end of cycle occurs every four years after the World Cup. In 2010 as we looked forward to what we hoped would be our promotion season from League 1 we were pretty much immune from this cyclical change due to our lowly league position. We are in a much more high profile position these days so are in somewhat uncharted territory. I suppose it's something we need to get used to. Anyway Worse case scenario. Shaw - Man U Lallana - Liverpool Lambert - Liverpool Lovren - Barca/Spurs Schneiderlin - Arsenal/PSG/Bayern Munich Chambers - Spurs Osvaldo - Italy Ramirez - Italy Wanyama - Spurs Clyne - Spurs Fonte - Other Prem Cork - Other Prem You seem to have caught Alpine fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 OK, a timely reminder #itshappeningbutnotasweexpected Posted that a little while back now - got shot down of course. Reed made some promises...so far economical with the truth at best. Does anyone REALLY think we're going to be spending £70m in this window? RK has been brought in because he likes working with youth. We could likely be seeing a lot more youngsters turn out against Liverpool than we dared imagine. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Every cloud though, we have a new song: "We are Southampton, we're off to the north, we're off to the north, we're off to t.........." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Song choices pls for SMS half time entertainment: Exodus by Bob Marley Ghost Town by The Specials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Well the OS now has Morgan and Gaston in replace of Lallana and Shaw. So I guess maybe hopefully they at least are staying. Unless the OS is a secret selling message to other clubs. It worked with Lallana and Shaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Unless the OS is a secret selling message to other clubs. It worked with Lallana and Shaw! Morgan is as good as gone, don't know about Gaston. Anyway as they're our only two players (for the time being anyyway) left in the WC it's unsurprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Song choices pls for SMS half time entertainment: Exodus by Bob Marley Ghost Town by The Specials I thought maybe 'we're on the road to nowhere' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 No way Chambers will go IMO although will be interesting to see what happens with him and Clyne. IMO we arent really a big enough team and those players are too good for one to be on the bench so I am hoping Koeman can slot Chambers in to a CB position or midfield, as Clyne slightly ahead as a RB for me. If I was either of them and was sat on the bench for Saints I would start getting itchy feet. Clyne IMO would have made the WC squad had he played every week last season. Good job he didn't go to Brazil, otherwise he'd probably also do a Lambert/Lallana/Shaw. Let's hope none of our remaining players ever get picked for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Weak is the only word for it, took years under Cortese to finally get that imagine or weakness away from Southampton, only for the new muppets to ruin that in a matter of months. Its not that they've gone, it's how they've gone. Realty check for all optimists, time to stop being deluded and wake up, really is a **** day to be a saints supporter.. Oh how I'd love to be proved wrong though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 No faith that exodus will stop at the 3 key players we've already lost. Think losing those 3 makes it virtually impossible to maintain the level we reached this season. The more that go the more chance it will be return to trying to retain prem status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 What do people think the Board, ( or whatever derogatory term you want apply ), could have done when the 'big' teams came waving their millions under the noses of our better players and plying their whispering campaigns in the media ( and England World Cup camp ) ? Simply saying 'sod off' wouldn't have stopped the players heads being turned, and if we had tried stonewalling to the extent that they switched attention to other targets, we'd have been left with a squad including several sulking want aways hardly committed to whatever RK's vision proves to be. Even if MoPo had stayed, I'm fairly certain that the 3 we've lost up to now would still have gone as we could not have matched what was on offer to them; whether it be money, Champions League football, or Rickie playing out his boyhood fantasies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 I tote want the dumb board to start telling big clubs to sod off badger. I'm not afraid of Lovren or Morgan's disappointment. I would sooner risk that than keep having to take risks with new signings every time someone plays well. I would sell bros if they're contract is running out and I would sell bros if the money is ridiculous like Shaw. Otherwise I would not sell bros! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Author Share Posted 27 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-exodus-set-continue-3777737 Quotes from Schneiderlin here that don't make great reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-exodus-set-continue-3777737 Quotes from Schneiderlin here that don't make great reading. None of that makes good reading. If Morgan's comments are true it shows how terribly weak the board are, how likely it is he will leave and the stuff about replacing first team with unproven academy kids sounds like crazy paper talk or else we've an insane board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-exodus-set-continue-3777737 Quotes from Schneiderlin here that don't make great reading. Crikey.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Author Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Crikey.... My OP looks pretty much on the money despite the abuse. Unprecedented PL sale spree even if each appears understandable in some way. Huge amount of quality to replace. Koeman has probably the hardest job of any PL Manager this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-exodus-set-continue-3777737 Quotes from Schneiderlin here that don't make great reading. Can see how those quotes might be edited to appear worse than they actually are. For example, he may well have been asked 'what do you make of Luke Shaw's prospective move?', before answering: "Everyone has ambitions, everyone has his own future in his hands so we'll see." Probably reading far too much to into it but he favourited a tweet from Chris Rann the other day about being made Saints captain. I think he is a classy enough guy not to demand a move, but if someone like Arsenal do come in for him with a good enough bid, then things might change. He would be the player I'd be saddest to see leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Maybe Les Reed would have been better advised to speak to the players and steady the ship then produce a glossy 15 minute smugathon video the complete t**** . What a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Make no mistake, we are in **** STREET !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 When are the board going to say no one else is leaving. They are a total joke or are we going to let J Rod,Cork,Wanyama,Fonte,Clyne,Ward Prowse and Chambers to all say they want to leave and have no one left. Can't remember many worse days supporting Saints when not playing a match. Really depressing day with Lallana leaving,Morgan and Bendner stories. Was coping with Shaw but the rest have seriously pi**ed me off. The board need to get a couple of big signings in this week to quickly steady the ship before it starts sinking and we head for a relegation battle next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 28 June, 2014 Share Posted 28 June, 2014 When are the board going to say no one else is leaving. They are a total joke or are we going to let J Rod,Cork,Wanyama,Fonte,Clyne,Ward Prowse and Chambers to all say they want to leave and have no one left. Can't remember many worse days supporting Saints when not playing a match. Really depressing day with Lallana leaving,Morgan and Bendner stories. Was coping with Shaw but the rest have seriously pi**ed me off. The board need to get a couple of big signings in this week to quickly steady the ship before it starts sinking and we head for a relegation battle next season Player power and big club cheque books rule the game, there contract is there to protect the club, but once the vultures from the top seven circle those players will go and you can take that to the bank; nothing the board or anyone else can do, all the club can do is play hardball and obtain the best deal they can, I agree totaly with you demoralizing beyond belief, but that is how the premiership is structured so the fat cats get fatter. Frankly I would like to see the whole thing re-structured as it is now it will kill the game, football is already dying at grass roots level thanks to x-box and playstation, foreign players in the premiership has all but demolished our international side as recently shown; the overiding factor and bottom line can be summed up in one word. "GREED" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 1 July, 2014 Now all three England boys officially gone which is a shame. Quite some difference in the way the excellent Saints media team covered the players first call ups versus the WC coverage when it was clear they were all off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 Sadly I now think that we will lose Morgan and Lovren, but if we had a core of five that did not want to stay then it is better that they are gone. Clearly their agent will be able to retire after this summers work if it is true they all have the same one. The backroom staff appoinments show we are moving into a new phase. At least we are financially stable and if we can get a squad together to get 45 to 50 points this season we will be in a good position to kick on from there. Most of us fans are in it for the long term, not just for the headlines yesterday, today, or tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 This thread needs renaming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Lovren's departure to be announced tonight or tomorrow, taking it to 4 plus Poch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 How many more to leave could depend how far the cancer (Lovren & Lallana) has spread inside the squad, and of course what players are wanted... Maybe their influence was bigger than anon yone understood.... Maybe the club should write a public apology on the day the next time Mr Clattenburgh visits St Marys. (if only to **** off t*atbeard) You were right Mr Clattenburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Officially now four key players gone, plus Poch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 Officially now four key players gone, plus Poch. Will be 5 tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50340-Hysterical-reaction-to-no-news&p=1944452#post1944452 Morgan next. Well, if you don't include Chambers as a "key player" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50340-Hysterical-reaction-to-no-news&p=1944452#post1944452 Morgan next. Well, if you don't include Chambers as a "key player" I prefer the days when we had all our players and it was just rumours buy cortese to his mates in the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 I prefer the days when we had all our players and it was just rumours buy cortese to his mates in the media Don't we all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 I prefer the days when we had all our players and it was just rumours buy cortese to his mates in the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 4 down. 3 to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 4 down. 3 to go? At least we're getting to the stage where we're running out of players we can worry about losing. Mayuka and Jos are here for ever. Got to be a positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 At least we're getting to the stage where we're running out of players we can worry about losing. Mayuka and Jos are here for ever. Got to be a positive? They'll be in the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 At least we're getting to the stage where we're running out of players we can worry about losing. Mayuka and Jos are here for ever. Got to be a positive? In a way it's good we've lost so many. At least now we have almost lost them all so my expectations couldn't be much lower. Anything that isn't relegation will feel like a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 I said up to 7 and I stand by that. I do still hold hope that we go on a signing spree though. My faith in the club rests on replacing those players we've lost and strengthening every position. Koeman has a hell of a job on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 July, 2014 Share Posted 27 July, 2014 I said up to 7 and I stand by that. I do still hold hope that we go on a signing spree though. My faith in the club rests on replacing those players we've lost and strengthening every position. Koeman has a hell of a job on his hands. Yes he does. Maybe that's why he took it, the chance to build his own team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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