Lazlo78 Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Wasn't one of his areas to be looking at the commercial side of the club & how we can grow as a "brand" overseas. imo, putting Les Reed in front of the camera is a good move as he will be more used to the devious ways of the press & can deal with it better & let RK deal with expanding the commercial operations which does not require him to be 24/7 at SMS. Yes, he spouted a lot of cliche phrases & motivational powwow but he did seem to buy into the whole concept of being a Saint & what that means to us. I agree. But without knowing any details, people still jump the gun and mock him for talking funny and being a "non-football person" (*sigh*) and conclude that he is doing a poor job. What is the criticism even based on? A few public interviews that people didn't appreciate? For all we know, he could be doing a stellar job behind the scenes e.g. in the commercial department... Give the guy a break and let him settle into a new role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 I agree. But without knowing any details, people still jump the gun and mock him for talking funny and being a "non-football person" (*sigh*) and conclude that he is doing a poor job. What is the criticism even based on? A few public interviews that people didn't appreciate? For all we know, he could be doing a stellar job behind the scenes e.g. in the commercial department... Give the guy a break and let him settle into a new role. It's mostly a clash of cultures in my view. I don't think it matters that much. Power is no longer invested in one man as it was in the days of NC, which is why I'm not too worried about Ralph being about. The organisation will soon make a judgment as to the efficacy of his initiatives. The club is now structured so that it would not implode if we did lose a Chairman. In that sense, we've made quite a bit of progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Bang on cue, I was waiting for your comment. Nothing like a bit of jealousy to bring out the venom. For the record, I have no idea about RK's abilities as a chairman of a football club, but one thing I would hazard, having personally spoken to him and heard him is that he was very fan and community orientated while also being interested in our history, something that has been conspicuously missing in recent years. No doubt Manji, in your sour little world, that means little. However to most Saints fans I reckon that means quite a bit, and even if he has left or is leaving I would say the six months he has been here have been of value. As an independant observer of the forearm, you have a proven track record of defending those who allow you access to the club and attacking those who do not. I am afraid therefore I can never accept your opinions as anything but biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 I agree. But without knowing any details, people still jump the gun and mock him for talking funny and being a "non-football person" (*sigh*) and conclude that he is doing a poor job. What is the criticism even based on? A few public interviews that people didn't appreciate? For all we know, he could be doing a stellar job behind the scenes e.g. in the commercial department... Give the guy a break and let him settle into a new role. Veho and the jewellers from Winchester?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 (edited) As an independant observer of the forearm, you have a proven track record of defending those who allow you access to the club and attacking those who do not. I am afraid therefore I can never accept your opinions as anything but biased. Purple Aki got locked up for doing that sort of thing. I guess as long as you look but don't touch, you'll be ok. Edited 19 June, 2014 by Toon Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 I hope he's gone - at least when people talk about 'RK' on this forum I'll know which one they're talking about. If he stays, however, may I suggest that in future: RK1 is Krueger (he was here first) RK2 is Koeman. Who ever talks about Chairman once the season has started? I just hope this is all hot air and nonsense because he seems to me to be the right person for this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 It's mostly a clash of cultures in my view. I don't think it matters that much. Power is no longer invested in one man as it was in the days of NC, which is why I'm not too worried about Ralph being about. The organisation will soon make a judgment as to the efficacy of his initiatives. The club is now structured so that it would not implode if we did lose a Chairman. In that sense, we've made quite a bit of progress Obviously you have no idea of the role of a chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Obviously you have no idea of the role of a chairman. The interpretation differs, but most frequently, a Chairman is a figurehead and the public face of the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook For those asking #saintsfc tell me Ralph Krueger is 'still very much our chairman.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 We have never really known exactly what Ralph's roles were (are?) Come to that is it clear what the roles of the other Board members are? Do we have a right to know? I think so, since it does affect who communicates what to supporters and members of the public, and that was not exactly a success until Les emerged as spokesperson for management succession. And it will be good to know that there are no contentious rivalries within Board members over their roles within SFC. So in the welcome appointment of Ron Koeman and team, who is responsible to whom, from Katherina down? Is it time for an update? (And I hope that Ralph Krueger is no longer in the mix.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 It's okay Alex . It doesn't matter who the target is at the club . There are the few insurgent types that wish to attack anything remotely positive about the club whether an individual or corporately . It's about time we had a thread about the quality of beer they sell at half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 As an independant observer of the forearm, you have a proven track record of defending those who allow you access to the club and attacking those who do not. I am afraid therefore I can never accept your opinions as anything but biased. Quite. When FF was calling him "Ralph" the other day was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 i sometimes call people I've met by their first name pls don't hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 As an independant observer of the forearm, you have a proven track record of defending those who allow you access to the club and attacking those who do not. I am afraid therefore I can never accept your opinions as anything but biased. Bang on really, unfortunate as his books are actually pretty good and he seens an intelligent poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Good Lord, I look away for 5 minutes and the witch hunt rolls on to the next target. Can we just let the club get on with the business of preparing for the new season without hounding members of the board out of their (new) jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 i sometimes call people I've met by their first name pls don't hate me Too late Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 No loss, there are plenty of potential chairmans out there. Some even understand the English Premier League. That said, current evidence seems to suggest he learnt an early lesson, but I sense once you've lost the fans you've lost the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 The interpretation differs, but most frequently, a Chairman is a figurehead and the public face of the company. A "Titular" head so to speak ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Who ever talks about Chairman once the season has started? I just hope this is all hot air and nonsense because he seems to me to be the right person for this club. Quite right - Cortese was hardly ever mentioned. Know what you're saying though, the big clubs chairmen always keep a low profile - but this isn't a big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 SaintRobbie Very bold statement to make saying he has lost the fans . He hasn't apart from a few on here . You have your view I have mine and I don't think the majority of fans share your views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 No loss, there are plenty of potential chairmans out there. Some even understand the English Premier League. That said, current evidence seems to suggest he learnt an early lesson, but I sense once you've lost the fans you've lost the fans. Don't be so dramatic. It's ridiculous how fans in the modern age 'worry' so much about CEOs and Chairmen etc. Oh Ralph Krueger, makes Steve Gibson look sh*te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 SaintRobbie Very bold statement to make saying he has lost the fans . He hasn't apart from a few on here . You have your view I have mine and I don't think the majority of fans share your views In fairness I did give him some credit for seemingly having learnt his lesson, which I guess will make many a little more optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 No loss, there are plenty of potential chairmans out there. Some even understand the English Premier League. That said, current evidence seems to suggest he learnt an early lesson, but I sense once you've lost the fans you've lost the fans. Robbie what are you talking about? Apart from you and a couple of the serial WUMS and moaners on here there's no way he has lost the fans. BTW he is still the chairman. Problem is we have an invisible CEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Ralph Krueger woaaaaah, Ralph Krueger woooaahhh he came from Canada he knew more about Prada, Ralph Krueger wooooaahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Too late Brian. Ias anybody actually called Brian these days?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Ias anybody actually called Brian these days?? I'm Brian and so is my wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Ias anybody actually called Brian these days?? Cue the Monty Python quotes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Cue the Monty Python quotes!! Oh, all right then ... And he started to shave And had one off the wrist And want to see girls And go out and get ****ed A man called Brian This man called Brian The man they called Brian This man called Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Especially ones born in Germany, like Ralph. And ones born in France, like, um, Michel Platini. No he wasn't. Ok, technicality, people born in Winnipeg but having lived for a significant amount of time in Germany are likely to speak German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Conscious uncoupling? naming ya kids apple and Moses what next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Rumour that Krueger is the victim of a serious clash of initials. Thing is, who will make the final decision whether he goes or stays...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Ralph Krueger woaaaaah, Ralph Krueger woooaahhh he came from Canada he knew more about Prada, Ralph Krueger wooooaahhh He hates pompeeeeee, he hates pompeeeeee clap clap, clap clap clap, clap clap clap clap, clap clap he hates pompey. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 He hates pompeeeeee, he hates pompeeeeee clap clap, clap clap clap, clap clap clap clap, clap clap he hates pompey. etc. He used to coach hockey he f*cking hates Pompey clap clap clap clap, clap, clap, clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 As an independant observer of the forearm, you have a proven track record of defending those who allow you access to the club and attacking those who do not. I am afraid therefore I can never accept your opinions as anything but biased. Well I won't lose much sleep if it is all the same to you. The best access ever given to Hagiologists was under the reign of Rupert Lowe, I don't think you will find much evidence of me defending him. Sort of blows your theory out of the water. Independent my arse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Has ff ever written a post that doesn't name check his books or his rubbing shoulders with club insiders? His level of self-publicising never fails to astound me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Has ff ever written a post that doesn't name check his books or his rubbing shoulders with club insiders? His level of self-publicising never fails to astound me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Well, there's the post immediately above yours... And what about you boasting about having an iPad AND Tapatalk? Hmmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Has ff ever written a post that doesn't name check his books or his rubbing shoulders with club insiders? His level of self-publicising never fails to astound me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk He was a trade unionist, what do you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 He was a trade unionist, what do you expect? And whats that got to do with price of chips, he is bloody nice bloke which you would find out if you new him or met him, cut him and he bleeds red and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Has ff ever written a post that doesn't name check his books or his rubbing shoulders with club insiders? His level of self-publicising never fails to astound me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk FF is one of the more insightful posters on here whose opinion I enjoy reading, if not always in agreement with it. I also have some of the Hagiology books in my book case so appreciate the hard work he and his colleagues have put into this as a labour of love in their own spare time.. If they make a quid or two out of it - probably nowhere near the level the detractors expect - then it is thoroughly deserved. The level of spite shown in some of the posts, no doubt motivated by pitiful envy, is sad to find amongst fellow Saints fans ,and disappointing . For the record I have never met FF and would not recognise him in the street. Keep up the good work FF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Has ff ever written a post that doesn't name check his books or his rubbing shoulders with club insiders? His level of self-publicising never fails to astound me. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Laughable.....I haven't met FF but he has done so much in bringing the history of our club to fans who are only too pleased to read about it. What have you done in this regard? Yep, like I thought, you have done bugger all. I sometimes think we need another forum for normal people who might disagree with each but do so whilst respecting the other person's point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 By the way, Mannheims new manager is Geoff Ward if anyone is still interested. The attacks on Fitz are totally unjustified. What on earth are you getting off on? More interesting is that regardless of the Mannheim rumour, Ralph has lowered his profile. Ye olde positive thinking went nowhere I'm pleased to say. Has he got anything else in his locker or is this it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Wish he would leave, 'I'm just a hockey guy' does no favours and appears weak compared to NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 (edited) None of us know how he's doing, certainly not well enough to decide he should leave. The mistake was making him the club's public face. Understandable given his pedigree as a speaker but in hindsight it might have been better to put Reed in front of the cameras after the first round of quotes. Nobody thinks Hofstetter should resign as chief financial officer but I bet they would if he gave a couple of bumbling interviews. Edited 20 June, 2014 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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