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Already names like ex-Roosters and Boston Bruins coach Geoff Ward and champion coach Niklas Sundblad were traded for the successor of Hans Zach. Now, however, more and more compacted rumor Ralph Krueger. The 54-year-old German, former coach of the Edmonton Oilers and the Swiss national team, most recently served as CEO of Premiere-League club Southampton FC.

 

 

But now he's disappeared from the portfolio of football clubs, and on Twitter was already speculating about a Vertragsauflüsung with Krueger. So Southampton had the obligation of the new team manager Roland Koeman closed an important gap, however, is probably the name Krueger not to be found in the course of publication of this Personnel.

 

 

Morning at 11 clock room is being ventilated "Weinheim" in the SAP Arena, the secret to the new coach of the Adler Mannheim.

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Posted this on the transfer rumours thread earlier. Guessing it has been a re-posted on twitter or something.

 

Don't think it is saying he has quit or gone already, but merely linking him to the job at Mannheim and suggesting his role at Saints has been scaled back a bit.

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Already names like ex-Roosters and Boston Bruins coach Geoff Ward and champion coach Niklas Sundblad were traded for the successor of Hans Zach. Now, however, more and more compacted rumor Ralph Krueger. The 54-year-old German, former coach of the Edmonton Oilers and the Swiss national team, most recently served as CEO of Premiere-League club Southampton FC.

 

 

But now he's disappeared from the portfolio of football clubs, and on Twitter was already speculating about a Vertragsauflüsung with Krueger. So Southampton had the obligation of the new team manager Roland Koeman closed an important gap, however, is probably the name Krueger not to be found in the course of publication of this Personnel.

 

 

Morning at 11 clock room is being ventilated "Weinheim" in the SAP Arena, the secret to the new coach of the Adler Mannheim.

 

 

Ooh. Interesting. The exact words given to me were that 'Ralph has been scaled back'. Maybe he's unhappy with his new re-jigged position? (I can't check on that until Mon, btw).

 

On another note, yes I did mean that my contact told me Koeman loved the training ground, a day before his declared 'first visit'. But that I accidentally gave them an out with my follow up question, unlike Colombo.

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Ooh. Interesting. The exact words given to me were that 'Ralph has been scaled back'. Maybe he's unhappy with his new re-jigged position? (I can't check on that until Mon, btw).

 

On another note, yes I did mean that my contact told me Koeman loved the training ground, a day before his declared 'first visit'. But that I accidentally gave them an out with my follow up question, unlike Colombo.

 

Where's the "Appreciate" button?!

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Posted this on the transfer rumours thread earlier. Guessing it has been a re-posted on twitter or something.

 

Don't think it is saying he has quit or gone already, but merely linking him to the job at Mannheim and suggesting his role at Saints has been scaled back a bit.

 

 

Chairmen are essentially good PR men, and it doesn't mean that Krueger must be at SMS 24/7....it's not a full-time job, and with his background he's hardly likely to turn his back on Ice Hockey totally.

 

I'm pretty certain that Cortese didn't severe all his ties with the banking world..... just because he became SFC Chairman. Far from it, it probably " opened new doors " for him.

 

Does anyone really think that Daniel Levy sleeps over in a bunk bed at White Hart Lane, just so that he can be on hand to chat with MP on a daily basis as Les Reed did ? :lol:.

 

I'm fairly sure that RK will retain his contacts in Ice Hockey and continue to " coach " other clubs in that sport, it's not as though he's moonlighting by helping out another Prem. League club - is it ?

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He was fighting a battle he couldn't possibly win IMO. His hockey background will be a constant point for discussion.

 

I wasn't a fan of his over exuberance and even his constant delegation of responsibilities. It made me wonder what the hell he was actually doing.

 

Oh and the North American brand-speak was also grating. It might be accepted over there but I just squirmed every time he enthused about practically nothing. Maybe it's a British thing but I just can't deal with that pandering attitude.

 

There is positivity as then there is bull****

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He was fighting a battle he couldn't possibly win IMO. His hockey background will be a constant point for discussion.

 

I wasn't a fan of his over exuberance and even his constant delegation of responsibilities. It made me wonder what the hell he was actually doing.

 

Oh and the North American brand-speak was also grating. It might be accepted over there but I just squirmed every time he enthused about practically nothing. Maybe it's a British thing but I just can't deal with that pandering attitude.

 

There is positivity as then there is bull****

 

He's a non-exec Chairman. He probably only needs to be around 4/5 days a months set direction, for the occasional hand on the tiller and to keep an eye on Kat's money once the full exec team is in place.

 

The execs will do all the day to day stuff.

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You have to laugh at this thread . People are moaning about who the new manager will be or not be . We get the Dutch master and with ours some of you turn on the chairman . Being interesting to see who you turn on next if Ralph has quit.

 

I liked him and I think he would have done a good job given time . But we have a fair amount of very impatient fans on here

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He's a non-exec Chairman. He probably only needs to be around 4/5 days a months set direction, for the occasional hand on the tiller and to keep an eye on Kat's money once the full exec team is in place.

 

The execs will do all the day to day stuff.

He isn't non-exec though. He was announced as CChairman of both the holding company and football board. May not need to be full time all season but right now he should be v busy. Also what happened to Hans Hofstetter.
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FF must know more about this. After all they are on first name terms.

 

Bang on cue, I was waiting for your comment.

Nothing like a bit of jealousy to bring out the venom.

 

For the record, I have no idea about RK's abilities as a chairman of a football club, but one thing I would hazard, having personally spoken to him and heard him is that he was very fan and community orientated while also being interested in our history, something that has been conspicuously missing in recent years. No doubt Manji, in your sour little world, that means little. However to most Saints fans I reckon that means quite a bit, and even if he has left or is leaving I would say the six months he has been here have been of value.

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Of value :)

 

erm how many babies lives have you saved by cycling to birmingham? How many European Cup winning shirt sponsors have you attracted to the club? How many aging carthorses have you off-loaded to liverpool for £4m?

 

Fed up with naysayers on this site! Another one for the ignore list

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IF he has gone, I personally wont think bad of him or the Club.

 

Sometimes job moves/appointments dont work out. You must've had a new job that, after a month or so, you've thought "ah, this isn't right"

 

Let Les take on more responsibility - he's doing a grand job so far

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Wasn't one of his areas to be looking at the commercial side of the club & how we can grow as a "brand" overseas. imo, putting Les Reed in front of the camera is a good move as he will be more used to the devious ways of the press & can deal with it better & let RK deal with expanding the commercial operations which does not require him to be 24/7 at SMS. Yes, he spouted a lot of cliche phrases & motivational powwow but he did seem to buy into the whole concept of being a Saint & what that means to us.

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Should never have posted that bloody article on here as someone has taken it upon themselves to use it to whip up a sh1t storm about it on twitter. (It will probably be Alex Crook's next news item) I don't speak German so had to rely on a poor Google translate of the article, but nowhere could I see anything about Ralph quitting. It's most probably just a rumour and as the9 says we'll find out soon enough anyway. Getting a bit ahead of ourselves assuming he is already out of the door.

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IF he has gone, I personally wont think bad of him or the Club.

 

Sometimes job moves/appointments dont work out. You must've had a new job that, after a month or so, you've thought "ah, this isn't right"

 

Let Les take on more responsibility - he's doing a grand job so far

 

Hold on a minute, everyone was complaining that he had too much power not so long ago

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We all heard Ralph speak, because we all saw his video interview which said a lot of the things we wanted to hear. Was what he said true, though? There had been two weeks of silence during Pochettino's exit but Ralph didn't say what the club had done to try to keep him, if anything. The interview was released on 29th May telling us no players would leave without the agreement of the new manager, yet 4 days later we learnt that Rickie Lambert had been allowed to go to Liverpool. He also said the short list of potential managers would be made public, which was a foolish thing to say because that would never be done. It is possible for people to mislead their audience with what they leave out as well as with what they say, and IMHO RK gave a very effective impression of being open and honest but was in reality less so than the fans deserved.

If he has applied for an ice hockey coaching job in Germany, it seems unlikely that he could continue as chairman of Southampton Football Club. No club statement yet to say he's gone, but if he is leaving its difficult to look back on the past six months and see evidence of the contribution he has made.

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I hope he's gone - at least when people talk about 'RK' on this forum I'll know which one they're talking about.

 

If he stays, however, may I suggest that in future:

 

RK1 is Krueger (he was here first)

 

RK2 is Koeman.

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There have been similar discussions in the past. Kreuger has a good track record, he obviously impressed the club's owner and we only have his public utterances to judge him by, none of us really knows what he does for the club on a day to day basis. He might be doing a bit of good here and there. Here's a quote from Wes Tender from an old thread: "The ability to motivate a football player ought to theoretically apply to any group of workers, be they sales people or management in industry or commerce or a car assembly plant team."

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There have been similar discussions in the past. Kreuger has a good track record, he obviously impressed the club's owner and we only have his public utterances to judge him by, none of us really knows what he does for the club on a day to day basis. He might be doing a bit of good here and there. Here's a quote from Wes Tender from an old thread: "The ability to motivate a football player ought to theoretically apply to any group of workers, be they sales people or management in industry or commerce or a car assembly plant team."

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?460-Sir-Clive-Woodward&highlight=clive+woodward#.U6KmcLGmWtN

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Krueger is just all varnish and no wood so to speak, an optical illusion, just like his "best selling" book..only published in French and German I think.

Always wondered what he was doing at SFC, still do.

Quite a lot of people speak German and French.

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Geoff Ward is the new head coach of Adler Mannheim

 

June 19, 2014

 

The Adler Mannheim Geoff Ward as their new head coach. The 52-year-old Canadian thus succeeds by interim coach Hans Zach, who had taken over the eagle after the separation from Harold Kreis on January 1, 2014. The former assistant coach of the Boston Bruins Signs With the Eagles a three-year contract until 30 April 2017.

 

 

"I am very pleased that we were able Geoff Ward win for us. It is our absolute favorite candidate was from the beginning, "said Adler Daniel Hopp, CEO commitment to the new coach. "We have a very early first talks and were immediately convinced of his ideas and concepts," said Hopp on.

 

The first four years of his coaching career, which began at the age of 27 years in 1989, Geoff Ward spent as assistant coach at the University of Waterloo. For the first time as head coach, who was born on April 08, 1962 Ward worked at a youth team of the Waterloo Siskins that it led directly to the title win in the 1993/94 season.

 

After a four-year commitment to the OHL Kitchener Rangers team, another year with the Guelph Storm and the Arkansas River Blades in the EHCL to Ward decided in 2000 for a move to Germany and hired the EC Bad Nauheim. But after a few months, the 52-year-old returned to North America and signed a five-year contract with the Edmonton Oilers. First Ward worked as an assistant coach with the Hamilton Bulldogs, before he was appointed as head coach during the 2002/03 season. Ward led the AHL team to the finals of the Calder Cup and was subsequently elected together with his predecessor Claude Julien the best AHL Coach of the Year.

 

After his year as a "Development Coach" of the Edmonton Oilers Ward moved to the Seilersee to the Iserlohn Roosters. But a year later he left the Roosters back towards NHL to take up a position as assistant coach with the Boston Bruins. There he celebrated in the seven years also his greatest success when he won the Stanley Cup with the Bruins in 2011.

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Quite a lot of people speak German and French.

 

 

Indeed they do, I couldn't find a french copy to buy though. However that's not the point, I'm sure his best seller was put forward as a selling point to sceptical fans, never explained that there is..to my knowledge anyway, no English version of this wonder tome, like I said an optical illusion.

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He isn't non-exec though. He was announced as CChairman of both the holding company and football board. May not need to be full time all season but right now he should be v busy. Also what happened to Hans Hofstetter.

 

What are his executive duties then? Being chairman of both doesn't make him an executive. From what I've seen so far he's very much a non-executive. Hans Hofstetter is also a non-exec I'd have thought.

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What are his executive duties then? Being chairman of both doesn't make him an executive. From what I've seen so far he's very much a non-executive. Hans Hofstetter is also a non-exec I'd have thought.

 

So basically Rogers and Reed are running the club, Rogers and Reed, sound like bespoke tailors really.

Never figured what RK was supposed to be doing anyway myself, can't see that it makes much difference whether he stays or goes. He won KL over with his gab at the WEF, she wanted to give him a job in the new set up, what that is exactly remains to be seen.

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I thought he was an non-executive Chairman (which is what they should be), meaning that he doesn't have a role in the day to day running of the club. Chairing board meetings, representing the company externally (when meeting new clients for example) and acting as a titular head very much like the Chairman of BA or Sainsbury's etc... He doesn't really need to muddy his hands or do much else. Does Sir Chips Keswick (Chairman) run Arsenal or does Ivan Gazidis (CEO)?

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So basically Rogers and Reed are running the club, Rogers and Reed, sound like bespoke tailors really.

Never figured what RK was supposed to be doing anyway myself, can't see that it makes much difference whether he stays or goes. He won KL over with his gab at the WEF, she wanted to give him a job in the new set up, what that is exactly remains to be seen.

 

Yes he speaks a lot of psychobabble and PR guff and I've been pretty critical of him, but still see a place for Ralph if Les Reed is left to all public statements on football matters.

 

He's obviously helped secure the new sponsor, gets involved with the Saints Foundation a lot, and he has alluded to a lot of changes behind the scenes in terms of marketing and the commercial arm of the club. Difficult to judge what difference he is making at the moment as all of these changes are behind the scenes and aren't going to interest a lot of us until we see the balance sheets at the end of next April.

 

On top of that, he is clearly a decent man with the clubs best interests at heart. I put his multitude of gaffes down to inexperience both in his role and within football in general. He really needs to improve on that front as he has projected an, at times, rather hapless image of the club. That would probably be most disconcerting to himself as much as anyone, as he is so versed in motivational guru-speak.

 

Once the club has worked out how to best utilise his skills I'm hoping our opinions towards him will start to soften.

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