OldNick Posted 24 June, 2014 Share Posted 24 June, 2014 but I'd be happy with £15 million - just as long as he didn't go to Spurs ! he is worth 2or3 times that to us. We need a good defence and to lose th kingpin would be a disaster. He is vital to us this season. Having Jose, Hooliveld and Yoshidas as our centre backs is daunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 24 June, 2014 Share Posted 24 June, 2014 he is worth 2or3 times that to us. We need a good defence and to lose th kingpin would be a disaster. He is vital to us this season. Having Jose, Hooliveld and Yoshidas as our centre backs is daunting But hes not worth £45m to us is he? If anyone offered anywhere near that we'd snap their hand off and buy someone just as good for half the money. None of our players are irreplaceable, apart from maybe Shaw and even then there are prices where it would make sense to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 24 June, 2014 Share Posted 24 June, 2014 I'd say Lovern is easily a 20+ million defender. I'd also say he is probably the hardest to replace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 24 June, 2014 Share Posted 24 June, 2014 I'd say Lovern is easily a 20+ million defender. I'd also say he is probably the hardest to replace I had a conversation with a fellow saints fan the other day where we tried to decide which current premiership centre backs are better then our Dejan. Honeslty struggled to find too many. Kompany obviously ... Maybe Koscielny at Arsenal ... A case could be made for Terry ... Beyond that? Nobody at Utd, Vertonghen spends half his life at LB. So essentially Lovren is, at least, the fourth or fifth best CB in the league. He is not even in his prime yet. He has a long contract. We aren't exactly spoilt at CB. Essentially his value is bound to be sky-high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 24 June, 2014 Share Posted 24 June, 2014 I know this goes against the bedwetters but didnt he do an interview about a month ago saying he wanted to stay here and there is NO evidence he has handed in a transfer request only press tittle tattle stirred up by the usual suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 June, 2014 Share Posted 24 June, 2014 I know this goes against the bedwetters but didnt he do an interview about a month ago saying he wanted to stay here and there is NO evidence he has handed in a transfer request only press tittle tattle stirred up by the usual suspects. We shall find out soon enough I guess, suppose he'll be back from Brazil tomorrow, don't know if he'd be expected to return to SMS before he takes his holidays though. Anyway there seems to be plenty of wheeling and dealing going on in Brazil just now, they said on French TV yesterday that Wenger receives agents proposing players to him nigh on every day whilst he's out there working for TF1, can't be the only one can he, bet he's tapping up like crazy as well, he has players in a lot of squads to visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 24 June, 2014 Share Posted 24 June, 2014 I had a conversation with a fellow saints fan the other day where we tried to decide which current premiership centre backs are better then our Dejan. Honeslty struggled to find too many. Kompany obviously ... Maybe Koscielny at Arsenal ... A case could be made for Terry ... Beyond that? Nobody at Utd, Vertonghen spends half his life at LB. So essentially Lovren is, at least, the fourth or fifth best CB in the league. He is not even in his prime yet. He has a long contract. We aren't exactly spoilt at CB. Essentially his value is bound to be sky-high! The link below is from January 2014 and Dejan was the only Premier League CB listed in the top 10 CBs of Europe. http://footballstudio.net/?p=348 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 26 June, 2014 Share Posted 26 June, 2014 just looking at Dejan's twitter profile. Could have sworn it was him in croatian colours the other day. Now its back to all Southampton related picks. Here's hoping the chance of working with one of the greatest attacking defenders of all time may have persuaded him to stay, at least until the January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Talksport reporting Arsenal in for him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Talksport reporting Arsenal in for him now. Do all the other team's scouts just watch home games? I am surprised he was so far off the radar last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 The link below is from January 2014 and Dejan was the only Premier League CB listed in the top 10 CBs of Europe. http://footballstudio.net/?p=348 Then we should demand an absolutely eye watering transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 So Arsenal then. Interesting, heard we were in discussions with two clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 the quicker he goes the better if he is unhappy, cant think of a better replacement though or even one thats as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 And Lovren wouldn't have been on most lists last summer. So who knows. It's depressing but if these people are desperate to leave it's best they do. None of these people are bigger than the club. If they all want to congratulate each other on getting out and getting their big club break then fine, but don't expect our fans to react well. Koeman is known for getting the best out of lesser players so heres hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 And Lovren wouldn't have been on most lists last summer. So who knows. It's depressing but if these people are desperate to leave it's best they do. None of these people are bigger than the club. If they all want to congratulate each other on getting out and getting their big club break then fine, but don't expect our fans to react well. When i was told about the Lallana and Shaw situations, I was reassured by who we are lining up to replace them. Btw no-one from either club was supposed to talk about the Shaw transfer until it was done. Which is why i couldn't say anything, and Luke had to do some hasty editing! Lovren is the only player I'm worried about. I've heard who we are lining up if DL goes, and I'm not sure they would come. I hope I'm wrong, and RK has some influence i don't know about. In other news, K.Billy's source tells him that we have a new GK and GK coach lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Btw no-one from either club was supposed to talk about the Shaw transfer until it was done. Which is why i couldn't say anything, and Luke had to do some hasty editing! Anything you can add, that's not already in the public domain, now the deed is done? Thank you kind sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 When i was told about the Lallana and Shaw situations, I was reassured by who we are lining up to replace them. Btw no-one from either club was supposed to talk about the Shaw transfer until it was done. Which is why i couldn't say anything, and Luke had to do some hasty editing! Lovren is the only player I'm worried about. I've heard who we are lining up if DL goes, and I'm not sure they would come. I hope I'm wrong, and RK has some influence i don't know about. In other news, K.Billy's source tells him that we have a new GK and GK coach lined up. Erwin Mulder/Joop Hiele? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Koeman is known for getting the best out of lesser players so heres hoping! In the Dutch league, from there to the cut and thrust against the world's finest in the PL is a major step. There is no place for mediocrity if you want to do well in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 When i was told about the Lallana and Shaw situations, I was reassured by who we are lining up to replace them. Btw no-one from either club was supposed to talk about the Shaw transfer until it was done. Which is why i couldn't say anything, and Luke had to do some hasty editing! Lovren is the only player I'm worried about. I've heard who we are lining up if DL goes, and I'm not sure they would come. I hope I'm wrong, and RK has some influence i don't know about. In other news, K.Billy's source tells him that we have a new GK and GK coach lined up. Thanks for the update. Are we likely to see some transfers in imminently as we really do need some good news and to also see what sort of players Koeman can attract? Shaw was inevitable, Lallana disappointing. If Lovren goes are we saying no more sales other than someone like Osvaldo or do you think Morgan, J Rod, Cork etc will also be leaving? Surely our borad must know they must start saying no to players leaving and if too many leave it puts us in a very dangerous position next year imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 When i was told about the Lallana and Shaw situations, I was reassured by who we are lining up to replace them. Btw no-one from either club was supposed to talk about the Shaw transfer until it was done. Which is why i couldn't say anything, and Luke had to do some hasty editing! Lovren is the only player I'm worried about. I've heard who we are lining up if DL goes, and I'm not sure they would come. I hope I'm wrong, and RK has some influence i don't know about. In other news, K.Billy's source tells him that we have a new GK and GK coach lined up. So Guan - how about Morgan? Did your source mention him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 I was reassured by who we are lining up to replace them. i would like to be similarly reassured pls! I gather ur not naming names tho, i am accepting clues along the lines: 1) Is they from Domestic or from Foreign? b) Is they playing at World Cup? IV) Is they young bros or old bros? 3) Is they handsome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 In the Dutch league, from there to the cut and thrust against the world's finest in the PL is a major step. There is no place for mediocrity if you want to do well in the PL. If the Netherlands performances in the World Cup so far are anything to go on, then bring on the mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 If the Netherlands performances in the World Cup so far are anything to go on, then bring on the mediocrity. Robben,Schneider and RVP don't play in the dutch league, they are the main architects of Holland's success. T"were it not for Robben's lightning pace and exquisite ball control they'd look very ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 I'm not getting into it, suffice to say that writing off an entire league is rather silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 pls can you get an avatar Minty? We use avatars to identify who is posting without going to the trouble and inconvenience of reading ur name. If you cannot afford an avatar, one will be allocated to you from lost + found. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 lol, ok... Any suggestions? (I'm going to regret this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 lol, ok... Any suggestions? (I'm going to regret this) A fence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 A fence? Imagine this is 'QI' and I'm Stephen Fry... and now the alarm is going off and 'Fence' is flashing up on the screen in big letters. Predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 lol, ok... Any suggestions? (I'm going to regret this) You need to toughen up your image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 i always picture Minty from his time on Eastenders. Solid, no nonsense, good bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Imagine this is 'QI' and I'm Stephen Fry... and now the alarm is going off and 'Fence' is flashing up on the screen in big letters. Predictable. When you get to my age Minty the obvious is a blessing. Anything vaguely imaginative went with my hair years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 lol, ok... Any suggestions? (I'm going to regret this) For old times sake ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 For old times sake ..... Congratulations, that would be the other flash-up-on-the-screen-in-a-QI-style answer I was expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 When i was told about the Lallana and Shaw situations, I was reassured by who we are lining up to replace them. Btw no-one from either club was supposed to talk about the Shaw transfer until it was done. Which is why i couldn't say anything, and Luke had to do some hasty editing! Lovren is the only player I'm worried about. I've heard who we are lining up if DL goes, and I'm not sure they would come. I hope I'm wrong, and RK has some influence i don't know about. In other news, K.Billy's source tells him that we have a new GK and GK coach lined up. Stefan De Vrij Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 just looking at Dejan's twitter profile. Could have sworn it was him in croatian colours the other day. Now its back to all Southampton related picks. Here's hoping the chance of working with one of the greatest attacking defenders of all time may have persuaded him to stay, at least until the January window. There is no evidence that he handed in a transfer request, he has stated publicly that he doesn't want to leave, and that he loves the club and the fans. Since the rumour broke that he has handed in a transfer request, he has been uploading saints pics to his profile.... Doesn't look like a player on the move... Plus him and fonte are attached at the hip! Will be our star player next season, him and morgan. Adam is not a big loss, you will see. Could by sanchez or predro for £15-18m, and we don't have to worry about the homegrown player rule. As for shaw, I sure hope we have some good add ons in there. Because he is going to be worth a fortune in years to come. Good deal for the short term, kick ourselves in the long term - either way, better than bale as a transfer from our perspective. That really was a **** up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Stefan De Vrij Does he play in goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Would fully expect this one to go through imminently. I think Shaw, Lallana, Lovren and Morgan will be our departures. I can see Osvaldo and Gaston leaving as well, just to trim up the squad. Players like Mcqueen, Reed and Gallagher will have more prominent roles, this is what I was told from the word go. I think we'll sign Pele - £8m, Tadic - £10m, Virgil - £6m, Kolo - £6m and a new GK - not sure who just yet. Got a slight ITK scoop that we may also be attempting to secure Jordy Clasie as well as De Vrij - but we'll see, probably 2 long shots based on our current position. I think the loss of Morgan will be absorbed with the larger role for Harry Reed, who will in effect become the cover - and JWP will probably play most weeks, I'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Lovren will be the one I will be most disappointed to lose. Closely followed by Morgan. I can handle the departure of Shaw and Adam but losing the other two is a huge blow and unprecedented for a team in our position to lose so much in one window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Would be gutted if he left, but certain he will. The plus with this transfer (as opposed to Shaw/Lallana) is their will hopefully be a bidding war for him. (Liverpool/Arsenal/Spurs + euro interest). Disappointed if it's £15m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Rather £15m and sell to Barca than £20 from Arsenal/Liverpool/Tottenham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Would be very annoyed if we lose him. It's clear it's going to happen. As stupid as it sounds, you only have to look at his twitter to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Would fully expect this one to go through imminently. I think Shaw, Lallana, Lovren and Morgan will be our departures. I can see Osvaldo and Gaston leaving as well, just to trim up the squad. Players like Mcqueen, Reed and Gallagher will have more prominent roles, this is what I was told from the word go. I think we'll sign Pele - £8m, Tadic - £10m, Virgil - £6m, Kolo - £6m and a new GK - not sure who just yet. Got a slight ITK scoop that we may also be attempting to secure Jordy Clasie as well as De Vrij - but we'll see, probably 2 long shots based on our current position. I think the loss of Morgan will be absorbed with the larger role for Harry Reed, who will in effect become the cover - and JWP will probably play most weeks, I'd have thought. A credible ITK scoop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Second Coming Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 People who would be happy to sell Lovren need a lobotomy. The guy is one of the best defenders in Europe. Our spine of Wanyama, Morgan, Lovren, Fonte and Boruc had us in a CL spot and for ten games we were the second best defence in Europe. As soon as one of them was injured we leaked like an Italian battleship... Shaw is a blow, Adam is sad, but any of the above would be bloody madness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 A credible ITK scoop? Credible, I think. Same person who broke the Gaston story to me a few years back - take a look through the archives, still proud of that being my 1 and only ITK claim to fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Lovren will be the one I will be most disappointed to lose. Closely followed by Morgan. I can handle the departure of Shaw and Adam but losing the other two is a huge blow and unprecedented for a team in our position to lose so much in one window. Agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Credible, I think. Same person who broke the Gaston story to me a few years back - take a look through the archives, still proud of that being my 1 and only ITK claim to fame. Why only slight? Surely it's a potential shout-it-from-the-rooftops scoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Why only slight? Surely it's a potential shout-it-from-the-rooftops scoop. I prefer to refrain from shouting it, as it only goes tits up then. Let's just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 I prefer to refrain from shouting it, as it only goes tits up then. Let's just wait and see. Fair enough - more could take a leaf from your book. Still would be massive if those two signings materialise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 For old times sake ..... My proudest internet moment! (Sorry Minty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 27 June, 2014 Share Posted 27 June, 2014 Would fully expect this one to go through imminently. I think Shaw, Lallana, Lovren and Morgan will be our departures. I can see Osvaldo and Gaston leaving as well, just to trim up the squad. Players like Mcqueen, Reed and Gallagher will have more prominent roles, this is what I was told from the word go. I think we'll sign Pele - £8m, Tadic - £10m, Virgil - £6m, Kolo - £6m and a new GK - not sure who just yet. Got a slight ITK scoop that we may also be attempting to secure Jordy Clasie as well as De Vrij - but we'll see, probably 2 long shots based on our current position. I think the loss of Morgan will be absorbed with the larger role for Harry Reed, who will in effect become the cover - and JWP will probably play most weeks, I'd have thought. If true, then can only conclude that the finances must be in a mess. Why else would we do the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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