itchen Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371 I think that confirms what a previous poster said about the Mirror (and Mail) knowing absolutely nothing. There is nothing in Steve Bruce's managerial CV that sounds anything like what Les Reed said about the new manager. Steve Bruce may be a nice enough chap (who is one of the few not to blame defeats on the ref) and I like him, but if he were to come here it would mean Les Reed lied throughout a 20 minute video. And I don't think he did.
SNSUN Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Eff it, I'll take any of those three. Let's just get it done tomorrow! Starting to get impatient now, just want the future secured so I can enjoy the World Cup worry free.
Batman Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 if we have some of europes best available managers interviewed. would seem utterly odd to appoint bruce. He is a good manager but not that good
Viking Warrior Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 I get the feeling the mirror makes up it's stories from this forum . I'm sure I read yesterday on here that the keoman talks had stalled and someone mentioned Bruce . Interesting tonight the mirror come up with that story I would take guess tomorrow they will print we are chasing Gerry Francis and terry butcher
Heisenberg Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Time to completely ignore the mirror guys. Are you saying im not as good looking as i thought?
Toon Saint Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Bruce, 53, has interrupted a family holiday in Portugal to return to Hull to tell chief executive Ehab Allam that he is happy at the KC Stadium and to discuss summer transfers. why would ANYONE ever do that There has been a lot of sh1te written about our club these last few months but that article takes the biscuit. Absolutely ludicrous sentence that is supposed to somehow convey that Brucey is prepared to leave Hull for us? Deary me
RedFear Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 I really know nothing of betting, but I notice Tuchel's odds have come down a lot in last hour or so
Bewildered Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 I really know nothing of betting, but I notice Tuchel's odds have come down a lot in last hour or so http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager/bet-history/thomas-tuchel/today
Dalek2003 Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 I get the feeling the mirror makes up it's stories from this forum . I'm sure I read yesterday on here that the keoman talks had stalled and someone mentioned Bruce . Interesting tonight the mirror come up with that story I would take guess tomorrow they will print we are chasing Gerry Francis and terry butcher No, Hoddle is once again a front runner, apparently.
Heisenberg Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 I really know nothing of betting, but I notice Tuchel's odds have come down a lot in last hour or so Says here that he's planning a year out. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11903/9320545/bundesliga-mainz-agree-settlement-with-former-boss-thomas-tuchel
Toon Saint Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Says here that he's planning a year out. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11903/9320545/bundesliga-mainz-agree-settlement-with-former-boss-thomas-tuchel Sort of says that, but also that any club wanting to take him on would have to pay a fee to Mainz. Could that be the paperwork Reed was talking about?
Bwanamakubwa Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Says here that he's planning a year out. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11903/9320545/bundesliga-mainz-agree-settlement-with-former-boss-thomas-tuchel To get this guy would take a lot of paperwork
Saint_Abroad Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Sort of says that, but also that any club wanting to take him on would have to pay a fee to Mainz. Could that be the paperwork Reed was talking about? I bet the paperwork he's referring to has something to do with Government work papers.
TwoPints Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Well it's safe to say that the Press Conference will be a little sparse. There'll just be one bloke from the Echo as everyone else is in Brazil.
Toon Saint Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 I bet the paperwork he's referring to has something to do with Government work papers. Or maybe sorting a refund for Brucey's family holiday in Portugal?
Goatboy Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Or maybe sorting a refund for Brucey's family holiday in Portugal? image rights for Gerry Francis' hair.
Saint Charlie Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Bruce's agent working hard to get him a new contract at Hull.
Saint Mikey Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 This may encourage Southampton and they can offer Bruce a bigger budget than what he has at Hull. The standard of English should tell you everything you need to know about this article. Probably written by a Work Experience kid, as everyone who can - has fooked off to Brazil.
Toon Saint Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 image rights for Gerry Francis' hair. Organizing the city parade for Leroy Rosenior and Steve Claridge to be unveiled as the Saints management duo, on a float driven by big Kat. Dream team.
Brizzie Saints Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Between koeman and yakin for me but I'd probably go the Dutchman purely on his ability to speak english
Saint_Abroad Posted 10 June, 2014 Posted 10 June, 2014 Or maybe sorting a refund for Brucey's family holiday in Portugal? Bruce had trip insurance and I'm almost positive it counts managerial appointments before July 1.
Saint in Paradise Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Michael Antony Appleton (born 4 December 1975) so well in the age range to be thought of as upcoming. Didn't he have a good reputation at W.B.A. ?? :lol:
Nolan Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Got a feeling that Les set out his stall yesterday to pre empt an unexpected appointment today. Les seemed quite a lot more hesitant when it came to his preamble about friendlies, as soon as the topic went on to managers the assuredness bolstered massively. Not to mention the timing of release mid evening was more than a bit curious.
wild-saint Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Sort of says that, but also that any club wanting to take him on would have to pay a fee to Mainz. Could that be the paperwork Reed was talking about? i like the look of tuchal personally and he defo fits the profile we seem to favour. He insists on all players to committing to attack and defence whilst preaching fitness. Turns out he is a big fan of the bielsa style and importantly has lots of experience managing acadamies ans using academy players at mainz. sounds like a perfect fit if you look at sucession planning.
SNOWY Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 I really know nothing of betting, but I notice Tuchel's odds have come down a lot in last hour or so I hope it's Tuchel. I will be surprised if he hasn't been interviewed.
Convict Colony Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Happy with Tuchel, Koeman or Yakin, all 3 will make something of us but from a long term perspective I'd go Tuchel/Yakin.
Under Weststand Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Voted Koeman again but to be honest could easily have gone for Yakin, Tuchel would also be a excellent appointment. Anyone of these, I think most would be more than happy with.
Rasiak-9- Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Yakin is available at 25/1+ at most bookies (and being bookies those odds are obviously as stingy as they can get away with) so there must be some knowledge they have that strongly hints it won't be him.
dubai_phil Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Well, if it is Tuchel then a big shout out to Dubai Saints' German based member for mentioning him and giving some detail about 6,000 pages ago on the other thread. If he forgot to put 20 Euros on him for our beer fund at the time I'll KILL him!
hans gruber Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 praying its Rafa was told he had an interview last week lol! bring Higuain with him then and destroy our wage cap Rafa? Would be a good choice if they started making us play on clay but I think I would prefer Koeman
CWD Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Got a strange and hopeful feeling that it could be Frank de Boer after watching Les' interview. Also agree with people who are saying it could be someone completely left field.
trousers Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Tuchel would definitely fit the 'paperwork hold up' statement as the Mainz chairman is no doubt holding out for a sizeable compensation payment. The more I think about it the more Tuchel seems like the perfect fit.
Saint Garrett Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Rafa? Would be a good choice if they started making us play on clay but I think I would prefer Koeman Reed did mention that they've had applicants from all over Europe who have won trophies etc. Champs league experience.....2+2....?
Lord Duckhunter Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 (edited) This web site had an " insider" saying tuchel was being looked at back in march. http://www.footballdirectnews.com/premier-league-news/43081-southampton-bundesliga-boss-in-frame.php I didn't know much about the guy, hence the search of Google where I found this. Lots of positives about him on the internet from respected people. Talk of spurs and Everton previously. Starting to prefer him to RK, although RK is a bigger name in the game. If we accept that Adam and Luke are gone and therefore don't need a big name to try and keep them, could be a good shout. Edited 11 June, 2014 by Lord Duckhunter
Gemmel Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 No, Hoddle is once again a front runner, apparently. He is certainly prone to doing a runner
mulletsaint Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Reed did mention that they've had applicants from all over Europe who have won trophies etc. Champs league experience.....2+2....? I think he actually says 'played in the Champion's League'. At least when I watched it yesterday I thought that it was as likely Reed meant a manager that had played Champion's league football as one that had managed in it.
Saint Charlie Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Pretty sure it will be an out of work Manager, especially if theybare down to a preferred Candidate now. It would have come out if it were someone employed IMO.
Nolan Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Tuchel would definitely fit the 'paperwork hold up' statement as the Mainz chairman is no doubt holding out for a sizeable compensation payment. The more I think about it the more Tuchel seems like the perfect fit. Tuchel is a free agent. Sky Sports reported he reached a settlement on the 21st may after having resigned from Mainz previously.
thorpie the sinner Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Tommy Tuchel does look an interesting possibility! Love looking at his CV at Mainz! All about team spirit first and foremost
Professor Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Mine was an A N Other vote as I'd like to think that Tuchel was on their 4-man short list. Not only do I liked what I've read about him, and the opinions on here that he'd be a good fit, I would like to see us stick with the 'young manager' approach. Of the other three in the Poll, only Yakin fits with that and even Koeman is the wrong side of 50. Although Koeman remains the favourite for most fans, I'd worry about his track record of not staying anywhere for long because given our record on managers, even in the Leibherr era, we are still looking for some stability.
Professor Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Tuchel is a free agent. Sky Sports reported he reached a settlement on the 21st may after having resigned from Mainz previously. I'm not sure this is correct. The report on Sky Sports that I saw says the agreement is that Tuchel will no longer be paid by the club and that he intends to take a year out, but he is not free to take another job in that time without Mainz's permission and any club that did take him would have to pay a fee to Mainz.
North Wilts Saint Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Paperwork = Contract negotiations, length, remuneration, relocation costs, bonus etc. bit also severances, get-outs, assurances etc. These are the things that inventively take time. Imagine agent, lawyers and football manager ego's. Might also be assurances and compensation to another club if employed, non poaching agreements for players etc. as well.
Nolan Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 I'm not sure this is correct. The report on Sky Sports that I saw says the agreement is that Tuchel will no longer be paid by the club and that he intends to take a year out, but he is not free to take another job in that time without Mainz's permission and any club that did take him would have to pay a fee to Mainz. I stand corrected... That'll teach me not to read an article too quickly http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11903/9320545/bundesliga-mainz-agree-settlement-with-former-boss-thomas-tuchel
jasonb Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Bruce's agent working hard to get him a new contract at Hull. This all day long... Very, very clever if completely bleedin' obvious. Still you have to strike while the iron is hot.. Bruce might have a shocker next year and get the boot.. improved terms this summer would soften the blow.
angelman Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 It worked with Poyet @ Sunderland, so why not Brucey?
CamberwellSaint Posted 11 June, 2014 Posted 11 June, 2014 Paperwork = These are the things that inventively take time. Imagine agent, lawyers and football manager ego's. Might also be assurances and compensation to another club if employed, non poaching agreements for players etc. as well. Absolutely right. I think Reed dealt with it as well as possible in the interview- it seemed pretty clear that the board knows who they want and their man wants to come here. This could have become a circus (much like Sp*** pursuit of Pochettino) but credit to the club (and whoever the new manager is) that it hasn't.
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