St Chalet Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Apologies for a new thread but wanted to create a new poll with what looks like the final candidates and give Yakin is chance to shine. Hopefully we'll have made an appointment by the time this thread closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Reed said they had 6-10 on original shorlist Had loads of top end applicants and final 4 all featured in the original shortlist. Lets just hope the orinal shorlist was ambitious Feels like its close. Just paper work holding it up Reed said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 'Paperwork' makes it feel more like a foreign appointment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin. Quite possibly, but one thing I do know for sure is that I'd trust the clubs scouting and recruitment department over you, me, or any other fan. And given that the same department found Pochettino, I'm quietly confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin. That's the way I heard it too when he mentioned that they have kept an eye on up and coming managers. Could be a surprise after all. Still hoping for Ronnie though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Yep, wouldn't surprise me if it was someone way off the radar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 That's the way I heard it too when he mentioned that they have kept an eye on up and coming managers. Could be a surprise after all. Still hoping for Ronnie though! Id consider Murat Yakin an up and coming manager? Hes only 39. Koeman would probably not be talked about in them terms, ranieri defo not. But like you said, could also be a complete surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 I voted for Koeman again, but seeing the Reed interview makes it sound like Yakin to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Still think it will be RonKo. Also, is it just me or does the fact that Ron's on holiday indicate that he'll be the one appointed. I mean, contract agreed with only "paperwork" left to do, so Ron's having a break ready to get to work when he returns? Perhaps a bit too 'tin foil hat', but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 praying its Rafa was told he had an interview last week lol! bring Higuain with him then and destroy our wage cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Koeman or Yakin would be fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Yakin's agent consistently said he had no contact from us, and he doesn't speak great English. Koeman could still be regarded as up and coming IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Yakin was the original choice....if you look back,I posted so......in fact I was the first person to mention him,Koeman has now put us in a dilemma. Hence the slight delay... The decision is made,it's just the timing. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin. You would still do due diligence on Koeman, it would actually take longer as there is more to go through and more people to speak to. The "up and coming" bit is more curious, Yakin would qualify but it would certainly rule out Koeman, Ranieri, Benitez, Magath and Gerry Francis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 As I asked on the other thread: What does Yakin give us over Koeman ? In terms of record and achievement Koeman seems ahead by some distance. Right or wrong for us is perhaps another matter. Koeman would comand attention/respect from the squad, ahead of less experienced names, and that is important now to help stem an exodus. But as others have said the LR interview gives impression of seeking a MP mkII. Of all the articles read about the names listed Tuchel would seem to meet some of the criterea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 But as others have said the LR interview gives impression of seeking a MP mkII. Of all the articles read about the names listed Tuchel would seem to meet some of the criterea. The manager of Mainz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 The manager of Mainz? left at end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 left at end of the season. Other then knowing that Mainz have done well in recent times I know little about the guy. What is his style of play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 As I asked on the other thread: What does Yakin give us over Koeman ? In terms of record and achievement Koeman seems ahead by some distance. Right or wrong for us is perhaps another matter. Koeman would comand attention/respect from the squad, ahead of less experienced names, and that is important now to help stem an exodus. But as others have said the LR interview gives impression of seeking a MP mkII. Of all the articles read about the names listed Tuchel would seem to meet some of the criterea. Just the youth v experience debate. Koeman has some failure on his CV but that's what happens if you've been a manager for a while. Yakin could build his reputation here like MP has. Koeman is more of a big name big personality. Either could succeed or fail. If they pull Tuchel out of the bag I'd be delighted. He's dropped off the radar amongst all the rumours surrounding Ranieri and Gerry Francis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Other then knowing that Mainz have done well in recent times I know little about the guy. What is his style of play? There were quite a few links on the previous thread if you can be bothered going through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Yakin's agent consistently said he had no contact from us, and he doesn't speak great English. Koeman could still be regarded as up and coming IMO. So could Tim Sherwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 There were quite a few links on the previous thread if you can be bothered going through it. Yeah.... I'll stick to this article I just found by googling. Looks familiar... http://timhi.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/mainz-full-backs-pressing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 So could Tim Sherwood Seeing as he's now being touted around for the WBA job, I doubt very much if he's in the running any more - but strongly believe he was one of the applicants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Seeing as he's now being touted around for the WBA job, I doubt very much if he's in the running any more - but strongly believe he was one of the applicants. Probably one of the 'crank' applicants that Reed had a laugh about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Koeman could still be regarded as up and coming IMO. 51 and seven jobs in three major European leagues, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Moyes ................! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Probably one of the 'crank' applicants that Reed had a laugh about. TBF, he's not a bad manager really. Unfairly sacked by Spurs IMO, made a very good crack of a mess of a squad. But he's a skate, so yeah, I'd file him under crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Moyes ................! He would be my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin. Hmm he also mentioned applicants who had won European leagues and competitions, and vast experience playing in the Champions League. Think if Reed is serious about a manager that can convince the likes of Luke and Adam to stay then the new manager will need to have some sort of profile in the game already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Moyes ................! As a stability choice, then yeah - but from hearing Les, I feel the club want to continue the attacking aspect - Moyes isn't going to bring a free-flowing side to St Mary's. Dogged, robust, hard to beat, but ultimately quite dull. Not sure that is the 'Southampton way' Les' was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Hmm he also mentioned applicants who had won European leagues and competitions, and vast experience playing in the Champions League. Think if Reed is serious about a manager that can convince the likes of Luke and Adam to stay then the new manager will need to have some sort of profile in the game already. Koeman, Frank De Boer are the 2 that stick out who hit that criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 51 and seven jobs in three major European leagues, so no. That does seem a lot, but it is 7 jobs since 2000. What is the average PL manager's tenure? Googling it, the Mirror in December 2013 states it's now 1 year (down from 2.07 according to a BBC article from 2011). In a Ralph moment of positive thinking, maybe the Cowman hasn't found the right club. Certainly some clubs don't suit managers (Hodgson & Liverpool, Moyes & Man Utd), so maybe the converse is also true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Koeman needing an assistant manager? Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Aren't we supposed to appoint the new manager before the World Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Aren't we supposed to appoint the new manager before the World Cup? Tbf those reports dont state which WC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumush Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 I would imagine Tuchel would be on Saints radar as he definitely appears to be a German Pochettino . Could well have been in the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Yakin for me please, I'd be happy with Koeman too but don't want Ranieri or anyone else that's been linked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 That does seem a lot, but it is 7 jobs since 2000. What is the average PL manager's tenure? Googling it, the Mirror in December 2013 states it's now 1 year (down from 2.07 according to a BBC article from 2011). In a Ralph moment of positive thinking, maybe the Cowman hasn't found the right club. Certainly some clubs don't suit managers (Hodgson & Liverpool, Moyes & Man Utd), so maybe the converse is also true. That's all fine. I was saying no to the idea he is "up and coming". 14 years in management says he isn't. He is an established manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 I think they said they monitor up and coming managers but not that they are necessarily are going to employ one this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Might be in the minority but I have serious doubts about koeman not got a good record of staying anywhere very long and although he's had success he was very poor at a a couple of clubs too, why swap one ship jumper for another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Might be in the minority but I have serious doubts about koeman not got a good record of staying anywhere very long and although he's had success he was very poor at a a couple of clubs too, why swap one ship jumper for another? I think that might be the case whoever we pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371 That would contradict a very large portion of Les Reed's statement earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371 In my eyes, after just hearing what Les Reed just said in the interview, there is no way that Bruce would be top of the list. Just wouldn't make sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371 Yikes!!!, I hope thats just paper talk. I would be very unhappy with Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371 Bruce, 53, has interrupted a family holiday in Portugal to return to Hull to tell chief executive Ehab Allam that he is happy at the KC Stadium and to discuss summer transfers. why would ANYONE ever do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Bruce, 53, has interrupted a family holiday in Portugal to return to Hull to tell chief executive Ehab Allam that he is happy at the KC Stadium and to discuss summer transfers. why would ANYONE ever do that That could mean just a phone call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 June, 2014 Share Posted 10 June, 2014 Pathetically illogical story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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