Katalinic Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Shouldn't have lost that - we might not have done if Hodgson had the balls to take the passenger that was Rooney off. Also, just can't see the point of Wilshere.
Killers Knee Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Woy lacks the minerals to drop Rooney, they'll quote the cross for reaspns not too. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
Andy Durman Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 England have too many average players. And a very average Manager.
Saint Billy Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Gerrard has been crap in this game Gerrard and Rooney, two of the most overrated footballers in international football.
SaintRobbie Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Usual crap from England don't really know why I stayed up Curiosity?
BotleySaint Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 It's easy to scapegoat Rooney. He makes it easy.
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Too many players trying to beat the player in front of them instead of moving the ball on quickly. Rooney's missed chance was when our World Cup exit was confirmed.
Bearsy Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Not bothered about the result, as long as Rooney gets to play 90 minutes I'm happy.
Secret Site Agent Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Rooney just not good enough. Agree with that
SaintRobbie Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Gerrard and Rooney, two of the most overrated footballers in international football. Yes I think that's a fair assessment
obelisk Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Rooney's time is up. Too slow. Too unadventurous. Too predictable. Not to mention poor quality.
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Very poor from England. Just can't hit the target. Rooney's miss in the 2nd half was unforgivable for a player of his supposed class.
Secret Site Agent Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Gerrard and Rooney, two of the most overrated footballers in international football. I agre with this, too
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Gerrard and Rooney, two of the most overrated footballers in international football. To be fair, I think that's only true in England. I don't think the rest of the world is afraid of them.
S-Clarke Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard were pants, and held us back. Positives in the young players, but this is a tournament too soon - valuable experience though, has to be said. Also not massively convinced with Baines at international level.
Bearsy Posted 14 June, 2014 Posted 14 June, 2014 Rooney's time is up. Too slow. Too unadventurous. Too predictable. Not to mention poor quality. When he has to sprint he looks down at his feet. Like a fat man weighed down with shopping running to catch the last bus home. C*nt.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Well Roy I see all your championship league Liverchester players are so good no wonder you want our saints players to join such great teams to be able to play just like that!
Wiggles31 Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Rooney Baines Johnson and Wilshere were dog poo. That corner from Spud was embarrassing to English football.
S-Clarke Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Rooney Baines Johnson and Wilshere were dog poo. That corner from Spud was embarrassing to English football. The 2 full backs are decent to average PL players, nothing more. They're not international level, and the full back area's are our achilles heal. Throw Shaw in, I would. Also Wiltshire hasn't ever ''happened'' - lots of hype as a young player, but nothing has ever happened with him.
Goatboy Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Gerrard, Johnson, Baines, Henderson, Rooney: all very, very average at best. Thought Cahill and jagielka did ok and Sterling and Welbeck had a good first half. Nothing to convince me that we'll get out of the group.
Black Sea Saint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Lallana well down the pecking order. Hopefully a reality check for him.Come home lad.
alpine_saint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Rooney and Gerrard were pants, and held us back. Positives in the young players, but this is a tournament too soon - valuable experience though, has to be said. Also not massively convinced with Baines at international level. Good post. Pleasantly surprised by Sterling and Sturridge. We were so weak on the left. Shaw would have "Shaw'd" things up
SaintRobbie Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Lallana was ineffective. And Wilshire. Berkley was also disappointing. Woys subs let him down tonight.
alpine_saint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Lallana well down the pecking order. Hopefully a reality check for him.Come home lad. Apart from the free kick he won that Gerrard wasted, he was poor and gave away the ball that got Sterling booked
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 We didn't seem to have any presence in the box at all.
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 We didn't seem to have any presence in the box at all. Quite right. In the last five minutes Italy had filled the box and we only had three players anywhere near it, and none inside.
S-Clarke Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 We didn't seem to have any presence in the box at all. I don't sense a natural goal scorer out there. So many attacks, Wellbeck, Sturidge and Rooney - all outside the box. What's the point in that? We lack an Owen type of player these days, we have lots of ''attacking forwards'' but none that I would call and out and out on the shoulder centre forward. Someone who lives and breathes goals - knows where to be and when.
JackFrost Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Rooney has class but in an England shirt he's a jobber. Gerrard now is a waste of space. Age has removed him of all his drive and pace, and he's only in the squad to sell shirts. We've got a few players with some pace and. . . that's about it.
Noodles34 Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Jesus. The same people that wanted a young, fresh England who attack but liable to inexperience go down one goal to the side that's going to win the group, and everyone says they're crap! Isnt this the players that are going to take us forward in two or four years time? We're you expecting us to win the World Cup ? Hope you lot aren't writing the headlines tomorrow.
S-Clarke Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Rooney has class but in an England shirt he's a jobber. Gerrard now is a waste of space. Age has removed him of all his drive and pace, and he's only in the squad to sell shirts. We've got a few players with some pace and. . . that's about it. He had class 5-6 years ago, but he's gone now. Time we all faced that fact! Peaked at an early, early age and is now nothing but an average, paceless player.
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Jesus. The same people that wanted a young, fresh England who attack but liable to inexperience go down one goal to the side that's going to win the group, and everyone says they're crap! Isnt this the players that are going to take us forward in two or four years time? We're you expecting us to win the World Cup ? Hope you lot aren't writing the headlines tomorrow. Rooney and Gerrard?
Noodles34 Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Apart from the free kick he won that Gerrard wasted, he was poor and gave away the ball that got Sterling booked Lol. Did you watch the ****ing game. He came on with ten mins to go, showed for the ball at every opportunity, turns their defenders won a free kick, FFS, WHAT WE YOU EXPECTING HIM TO DO?
Katalinic Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Jesus. The same people that wanted a young, fresh England who attack but liable to inexperience go down one goal to the side that's going to win the group, and everyone says they're crap! Isnt this the players that are going to take us forward in two or four years time? We're you expecting us to win the World Cup ? Hope you lot aren't writing the headlines tomorrow. It wasn't the youngsters that let us down.
SaintRobbie Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Usual crap from England don't really know why I stayed up Usual cramp from England.
S-Clarke Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Lol. Did you watch the ****ing game. He came on with ten mins to go, showed for the ball at every opportunity, turns their defenders won a free kick, FFS, WHAT WE YOU EXPECTING HIM TO DO? Hand in a transfer request. I hear he wants to join Italy.
Noodles34 Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 This is England's future, once we get shot of Rooney and Gerard, we have some real bright talents to go forward with, can we not for once, get behind them?
SaintRobbie Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 My conclusion? Play the youngsters next game - and go for pace. Drop Rooney.
alpine_saint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Lol. Did you watch the ****ing game. He came on with ten mins to go, showed for the ball at every opportunity, turns their defenders won a free kick, FFS, WHAT WE YOU EXPECTING HIM TO DO? I mentioned the free kick. Sod asking about whether I watched the game, did you actually read my post ?
alpine_saint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 My conclusion? Play the youngsters next game - and go for pace. Drop Rooney. Hmm. As long as by "youngsters" you dont mean Barkley and Wilshire. They were crap.
USA SaintsFan Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 No urgency whatsoever from england for the last 15 odd minutes. Rooney...
shurlock Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Hand in a transfer request. I hear he wants to join Italy. The joke is tired and done. He's our player and has been fantastic for us.
Noodles34 Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Hand in a transfer request. I hear he wants to join Italy. Thats a separate issue, if he was a skate tonight I still would have said that given the time he had, the team he was facing, he did as much as I would have expected. you know we were playing a team that goes ahead and then parks a bus on the edge of their box, very electively, probably the best in the world. Once our kids realise that you can't just run through them we could get a better result. its all part of the learning curve, a curve that should serve us we'll for the next two tournaments.
sandwichsaint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 We're not very good. Same old same old. I thought that this was an opportunity to be a little different, but same old boring **** that we always get. We may get the occasional win and draw, but we are boring. Don't agree, nothing like the same old same old, we used to have a reasonable defence and a limited attack, we now have a pretty good attack and a very limited defence. I saw more flair from England going forward than I did from Brazil the other night.
Noodles34 Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 I mentioned the free kick. Sod asking about whether I watched the game, did you actually read my post ? Yeah, you said he was ineffective, maybe I you wrote it incorrectly then, are you saying Lallana was okay?
S-Clarke Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Roy said Rooney did very well on the left, oh dear me.
alpine_saint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Sterling and Sturridge should get another game. Gerrard should be benched, but who do you play instead ? Rooney is never going to make a mark on a WC. Put him on the bench and play Lallana there instead.
sandwichsaint Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 I don't sense a natural goal scorer out there. So many attacks, Wellbeck, Sturidge and Rooney - all outside the box. What's the point in that? We lack an Owen type of player these days, we have lots of ''attacking forwards'' but none that I would call and out and out on the shoulder centre forward. Someone who lives and breathes goals - knows where to be and when. Lambert?
Bearsy Posted 15 June, 2014 Posted 15 June, 2014 Roy said Rooney did very well on the left, oh dear me. That was the best England performance of Roy's tenure, apparently. That being the case someone needs to sack the ****. Stat.
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