Dig Dig Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 What could be delaying contract extensions for Cork and Fonte? You would think that these would be quick and easy PR wins in amongst the ****e... What an utter disaster if we end up losing players like that In addition, Rodriguez is due a contract extension and has been since he made the appearance threshold in his original contract. Can't see him wanting to sign one now.
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Even if you're only planning to flog them, surely it's best to tie them down to a long-term contract.
Huffton Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 In addition, Rodriguez is due a contract extension and has been since he made the appearance threshold in his original contract. Can't see him wanting to sign one now. As harsh as it sounds, I can't see us wanting to give him one until we know his knee is recovering. That injury has ended more than one career.
JakkoUK Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 They'll wait for everything to settle first and it'll be a job the new manager can take part in. That will be an even bigger PR win, shows the club is stable and the players are happy with the new manager. Doing it now, would be silly- what players going to sign a new contract without knowing who's going to be managing them?
Dig Dig Posted 30 May, 2014 Author Posted 30 May, 2014 They'll wait for everything to settle first and it'll be a job the new manager can take part in. That will be an even bigger PR win, shows the club is stable and the players are happy with the new manager. Doing it now, would be silly- what players going to sign a new contract without knowing who's going to be managing them? Both have been happy and ready to sign for months, could and should have been sorted out by now. I very much doubt that anything which is happening is all part of some planned PR crusade.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Doubt they will be so keen to commit now. I wouldnt be signing anything until I saw what the situation was like in September.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Just wait until next week when the papers come out... Still nothing in the offing for either of them. Easy chance for a bit of positive news here but no attempts as of yet. Shameful really.
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Just wait until next week when the papers come out... Still nothing in the offing for either of them. Easy chance for a bit of positive news here but no attempts as of yet. Shameful really. which papers ? perhaps we're waiting for a new supply of watches or stuffed toys or whatever, perhaps we've mislaid the club's only pen.
S-Clarke Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. Safe to say Fonte isn't a happy bunny for sure...
The Kraken Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. Safe to say Fonte isn't a happy bunny for sure... Last one out, turn off the lights.
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. right, we'll believe it all when we see it then, that would just give the impression that they are deliberately extracting the urite and that they've hired Baghdad Bob to front it all until the U17s turn up in the PL squad in August..
jimmysaint7 Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Safe to say Fonte isn't a happy bunny for sure... How do we know hes not happy
Batman Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. cortese out
Block34 Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Safe to say Fonte isn't a happy bunny for sure... Good, with him gone, Dani's got no-one to drop so his game will improve - there we go, we got a striker back!
Baird of the land Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 Yeah don't get why we haven't offered them new contracts, on last day of season cork seemed to want it to get sorted. My fear is that we are trying to slash the wage bill back, otherwise why wouldn't we want to keep 2 of our better players.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 If we lose players like Fonte and Cork then we really are ****ed
The Kraken Posted 30 May, 2014 Posted 30 May, 2014 If we lose players like Fonte and Cork then we really are ****ed Very true Charles. Very true. Losing players to Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and perhaps Spurs is inevitable IMO, those clubs have far much more to offer than Saints do. So when they come calling, those players will go 99% of the time. Fonte and Cork in all likelihood won't go to one of them; yet if they leave us for any other club it's a sign that we're just as inconsequential as we've always been. I thought at least that the days of losing players to the likes of Everton, Villa, Newcastle and Sunderland might be behind us. We'll see if that was misguided.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Just wait until next week when the papers come out... Still nothing in the offing for either of them. Easy chance for a bit of positive news here but no attempts as of yet. Shameful really. Monday edition, I believe...
shurlock Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 (edited) Monday edition, I believe... What does that mean? Edited 1 June, 2014 by shurlock
St Chalet Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. So the board have taken a tough negotiating stance? Christ, they are ****ed either way. Surprised nobody has mentioned that Boruc and Steven Davis contract are up as well.
Saint Charlie Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Davis signed a 4 year contract so has two years left. Armstrong - you think something will come out tomorrow then?
Delboy Dave Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 How do we know Fonte is unhappy? I've not seen any report anywhere
S-Clarke Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 How do we know Fonte is unhappy? I've not seen any report anywhere We will, shortly.
Papa Shango Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. Would be on the same level as Lambert going IMO. Another hero out the door. Fonte should be here for the rest of his career given what he's done and how much of an influence he is in the dressing room
John B Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Would be on the same level as Lambert going IMO. Another hero out the door. Fonte should be here for the rest of his career given what he's done and how much of an influence he is in the dressing room So would you pay him what he wants or what you are prepared to pay
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Have I missed something with Fonte? Why are people so sure contract been withdrawn and that him being unhappy will hit the papers soon? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
St Chalet Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 From memory both Cork and Fonte's deals were when we were in the Championship. Perhaps we are not offering them the pay rise they had assumed they were in line for?
Saint Charlie Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 From memory both Cork and Fonte's deals were when we were in the Championship. Perhaps we are not offering them the pay rise they had assumed they were in line for? Sounds more like we havent offered anything or even spoken to them about it, which is plain mental. Both really good solid PL pros.
Saint Charlie Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 From Journo Joe Batchelor.. Can't promise...but look out for some big quotes from a certain #saintsfc CB in papers tomorrow. The one that rhymes with Harry Belafonte.
St Chalet Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Let's hope his words are more subtle than his challenges in the penalty area.
Mallagroth Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 From Journo Joe Batchelor.. Can't promise...but look out for some big quotes from a certain #saintsfc CB in papers tomorrow. The one that rhymes with Harry Belafonte. Thanks for warning I'll strap myself in for this week's bumpy ride through to the calm of next sunday, that is once I manage to squeeze the extra £300 Saints ticket office took off me for renewal.
modern matron Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. give it a rest will you
modern matron Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Would be on the same level as Lambert going IMO. Another hero out the door. Fonte should be here for the rest of his career given what he's done and how much of an influence he is in the dressing room Over the top in my view. If we are to move to the next level then sadly Fonte is not good enough.
Batman Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Over the top in my view. If we are to move to the next level then sadly Fonte is not good enough. selling lambert, lallana and probably shaw tells you all you need to know about moving on to the 'next level' we wont be buying a better left back and attacking midfielder, for starters fonte has had an excellent season. Why on earth would the club let him go if we have to replace 4-5 first team players AND add to the squad with other departures we will go down IMO
S-Clarke Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 give it a rest will you Sorry for passing on what I heard, and I'm sorry it's not positive, shiny and sparkly. We should not be getting rid of Fonte and we should be signing him up long-term. There is no next level for us to move to, so we need to retain players like Fonte and Cork - they are more than good enough for us and where we are.
Saint Charlie Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 In a summer of change, solid players like Fonte and Cork become invaluable. I would say its too much for Fonte to ask for them to at least speak to him. If we lose the likes of these guys it is almost worse than the Lallana's and Shaw's because you know they love it here and would happily stay. Wouldnt be overly tough negotiations, or ludicrous wages. Don't blame him at all for going to the press if that is the only other options he thought he had.
Bewildered Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. What is Les Reed playing at? Every time Hockey Ralph or anyone else associated with the cluib is asked about this kind of thing we get told it's his responsibility so what is he playing at?
Baird of the land Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Think cork is an absolute amazing player. Really worried if the club think he is somehow surplus to requirements. Fonte's solid & would seem odd to ditch such a loyal servant who played an important role throughout his years here.
Rich102 Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Contracts have been withdrawn for both. They were on the table. Fonte is next out of the door, apparently. This is insanity. It's one thing to lose players to bigger clubs but this would be shooting ourself in both feet whilst smashing our face in with the recoil of the gun. I'm just about able to deal with us being bullied by the big 4, but I don't think I can watch us self-harm too.
kpturner Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Monday edition, I believe... Why wait for Monday. If you know something why not just come out and say it now. It'd do your street cred a world of good
Saint Charlie Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Why wait for Monday. If you know something why not just come out and say it now. It'd do your street cred a world of good I think from looking back at the previous few posts it is fairly clear as to the content of the reports Armstrong is refering to. But best wait for the real quotes to get the full picture. Clearly Fonte isn't a happy bunny. I think SA only has 3 posts and has used them today so lets just wait and see what comes out tomorrow.
kpturner Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 I think from looking back at the previous few posts it is fairly clear as to the content of the reports Armstrong is refering to. But best wait for the real quotes to get the full picture. Clearly Fonte isn't a happy bunny. I think SA only has 3 posts and has used them today so lets just wait and see what comes out tomorrow. Probably going to be a mountain out of a molehill - we'll see.
Crab Lungs Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Fonte knows the score. Disgusting what's happening at this club, it's actually worse and more inept than venkys. Oh, Jose's been on the same contract since League One ...
Crab Lungs Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Oh and look out of the nauseating, look-at-us-aren't-we-nice-people videos and statements of every player departure. It's all false, it's all bullsh1t from those at the top trying to project the human touch. Shove your nice open letters up your fat arses. T0ssers.
S-Clarke Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Oh and look out of the nauseating, look-at-us-aren't-we-nice-people videos and statements of every player departure. It's all false, it's all bullsh1t from those at the top trying to project the human touch. Shove your nice open letters up your fat arses. T0ssers. Which videos and statements of which player departures?
shurlock Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Oh and look out of the nauseating, look-at-us-aren't-we-nice-people videos and statements of every player departure. It's all false, it's all bullsh1t from those at the top trying to project the human touch. Shove your nice open letters up your fat arses. T0ssers. How can you know anything when even those on the inside are in the dark?
Batman Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Which videos and statements of which player departures? as long as people are smiling at St Mary's now the little spiv has gone. and we play in stripes
St Chalet Posted 1 June, 2014 Posted 1 June, 2014 Oh, Jose's been on the same contract since League One ... or not http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16354197
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