Saint Charlie Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Can it be explained away by players being more ambitious than the club, or is it a deeper underlying problem, perhaps with the finances? Or is it still just media hype? If, as seems possible, we sell Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren and Schneiderlin, plus lose Pochettino then in your opinion is that a 'meltdown'? PS - the posters that say nothing has officially happened yet re outgoing transfers, please see MP situation last two months - it's a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 ****ing no Ballse Freddy Krueger needs to grow a pair and say we are not selling. But it seems Katrina wants to ruin us split us and sell I reackon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Can it be explained away by players being more ambitious than the club, or is it a deeper underlying problem, perhaps with the finances? Or is it still just media hype? If, as seems possible, we sell Lambert, Shaw, Lallana, Lovren and Schneiderlin, plus lose Pochettino then in your opinion is that a 'meltdown'? PS - the posters that say nothing has officially happened yet re outgoing transfers, please see MP situation last two months - it's a matter of time. What the **** is going on? You're having a 'mare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 This is just hell. Southampton fc making life horrible at mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 If true then I can't really begrudge him the chance. Don't forget Cortese tried to force him out in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Stop being so hysterical charlie boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 If true then I can't really begrudge him the chance. Don't forget Cortese tried to force him out in January. but then, rodriguez was not out for 6 months and osvaldo was not sent out of the club if lambert is sold, we probably only have SG as our NO.1 striker until we try to replace what lambert brings. which would cost a fortune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 If true then I can't really begrudge him the chance. Don't forget Cortese tried to force him out in January. For more than £4m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Er..excuse me but didn't Cortese refuse to let him go in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 If Rodriguez wasn't injured, I very much doubt he'd still be with the club at the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 It's important to remember that nobody has actually been sold yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 For more than £4m. Has the £4m been accepted? I thought it was in negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 The club is being liquidated. Isnt obvious ? Ralfie has been brought in to string along the fans until the board and KL have squeezed as much money out of the club as they can, knowing full well the ground, Academy, training facilities and especially our PL spot can still be sold as a going concern. This is the beginning, dude.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Er..excuse me but didn't Cortese refuse to let him go in January? Was that ever actually confirmed? And anyway, at that point - we still had a manager, Lallana, Shaw and Lovren weren't subject to bids and Jay wasn't out for 6-9 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Er..excuse me but didn't Cortese refuse to let him go in January? No, Cortese wanted to sell him, Lambert didn't want to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 The club is being liquidated. Isnt obvious ? Ralfie has been brought in to string along the fans until the board and KL have squeezed as much money out of the club as they can, knowing full well the ground, Academy, training facilities and especially our PL spot can still be sold as a going concern. This is the beginning, dude.......... Do you HONESTLY think thats true? Honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Didn't rickie say he was going to retire here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Do you HONESTLY think thats true? Honestly Yes, I do. Our owner has previous............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 So you all think we won't be replacing him then IF he does go? We haven't got a competitive game for nearly 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 On the face of it, it would appear our club is in a tad of a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Yes, I do. Our owner has previous............ I bet you £100 that is not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 The club is being liquidated. Isnt obvious ? Ralfie has been brought in to string along the fans until the board and KL have squeezed as much money out of the club as they can, knowing full well the ground, Academy, training facilities and especially our PL spot can still be sold as a going concern. This is the beginning, dude.......... completely agree with this unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 The club is being liquidated. Isnt obvious ? Ralfie has been brought in to string along the fans until the board and KL have squeezed as much money out of the club as they can, knowing full well the ground, Academy, training facilities and especially our PL spot can still be sold as a going concern. This is the beginning, dude.......... It doesn't make any sense for them to spend £30m on training facilities and then just sell everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 It doesn't make any sense for them to spend £30m on training facilities and then just sell everything. That was already sanctioned, and they couldn't just stop the work 90% completed (As it was at that stage when they came in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 That was already sanctioned, and they couldn't just stop the work 90% completed (As it was at that stage when they came in). It's only 90% complete now, and why wouldn't they? Liquidators would not do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 The club is being liquidated. Isnt obvious ? Ralfie has been brought in to string along the fans until the board and KL have squeezed as much money out of the club as they can, knowing full well the ground, Academy, training facilities and especially our PL spot can still be sold as a going concern. This is the beginning, dude.......... I fear so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 This is just hell. Southampton fc making life horrible at mo. A lot of fans won't sleep properly tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Yes, I do. Our owner has previous............ Thats the bit that concerns me about that German printing firm that she took over and ****ed, can't believe that she would so that here but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 The last 3 echo headlines, in chronological order, in the last 3 days. 'We're aiming for Europe' - full interview with Saints chairman Ralph Krueger Ex-Brighton boss on Saints radar Lambert close to shock Liverpool move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Didn't rickie say he was going to retire here? He did. Liverpool are the only club he would leave us for imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingbridgeSaint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 I've tried to remain impartial to all the media hype at the moment & currently its hard to decipher whats fact & whats fiction. To the normal fan it feels like "happy hour" at the media predicted meltdown & I reckon they are having a right laugh at our expense. In my opinion our own media dept are not doing their job correctly. The club needs good news & it needs it fast. Ever since the last day of the season we are no.1 targets for the press & like it or not, this will effect all areas of the club. Our own Daily Echo are not helping us out either with stories like "ex Brighton boss on radar" - seriously?! If there is a big grand master plan going on in the background with players reportadly wanting to come here then we need to start dealing. For once why isn't it us nicking other players from other clubs? If you analyse the media attack on Saints you can clearly see it is has been deliberatly targeted & is constant. They are blatantly ignoring any of the messages from the board with regard to players. Right now, our media team need to up their game. Please note, this isn't a wish for daily/hourly updates from the club but anyone can see we need a break & we need it soon. I expect better from a Top 8 club whose apparent aspirations are Europe. I'll trust the board for now but for me, the person they appoint a manager will be the best indicator yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 I've tried to remain impartial to all the media hype at the moment & currently its hard to decipher whats fact & whats fiction. To the normal fan it feels like "happy hour" at the media predicted meltdown & I reckon they are having a right laugh at our expense. In my opinion our own media dept are not doing their job correctly. The club needs good news & it needs it fast. Ever since the last day of the season we are no.1 targets for the press & like it or not, this will effect all areas of the club. Our own Daily Echo are not helping us out either with stories like "ex Brighton boss on radar" - seriously?! If there is a big grand master plan going on in the background with players reportadly wanting to come here then we need to start dealing. For once why isn't it us nicking other players from other clubs? If you analyse the media attack on Saints you can clearly see it is has been deliberatly targeted & is constant. They are blatantly ignoring any of the messages from the board with regard to players. Right now, our media team need to up their game. Please note, this isn't a wish for daily/hourly updates from the club but anyone can see we need a break & we need it soon. I expect better from a Top 8 club whose apparent aspirations are Europe. I'll trust the board for now but for me, the person they appoint a manager will be the best indicator yet. Sorry, but what the hell has this got to do with our media department? The reason the media have such a free-for-all is because of the likes of RK, and Hans whatshisname and their throwaway, naive comments. The comments regarding them inheriting a difficult financial situation was ill-advised, ill-timed and opened up the doors. This isn't anything to do with the media team. They put out what they're told to put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Sorry, but what the hell has this got to do with our media department? The reason the media have such a free-for-all is because of the likes of RK, and Hans whatshisname and their throwaway, naive comments. The comments regarding them inheriting a difficult financial situation was ill-advised, ill-timed and opened up the doors. This isn't anything to do with the media team. They put out what they're told to put out. Yep. That financial statement was an act of crass stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Bid turned down apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Bid turned down apparently. It's called negotiation. Will be done in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 The comments regarding them inheriting a difficult financial situation was ill-advised, ill-timed and opened up the doors. Maybe he wanted the doors opening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 It's called negotiation. Will be done in the end. Yep. Simply a case that the two sides dont agree on valuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Not sure how the board can be blamed for bids coming in ?? Find it fing ridiculousness that liverpool are bidding left right and center for players , are they the new west ham or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 It's called negotiation. Will be done in the end. What has happened to you? Once a bastion of relative calm, you now act like a hysterical tart. Has BS hacked your account or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Not sure how the board can be blamed for bids coming in ?? Find it fing ridiculousness that liverpool are bidding left right and center for players , are they the new west ham or something I think its an understandable reaction for f**king the title up at the last hurdle. They are trying to make sure that they hit the track running and keep going until the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2014 What has happened to you? Once a bastion of relative calm, you now act like a hysterical tart. Has BS hacked your account or something? Just being realistic like with Poch. If Liverpool want Lambert then he will go. Not exactly a shock statement. Still so many with their heads in the sand. We are facing probably 4 or 5 of our very best players leaving this summer, not exactly fun times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 I think its an understandable reaction for f**king the title up at the last hurdle. They are trying to make sure that they hit the track running and keep going until the end. Can't remember a transfer window were so many players and the manager (from any club)are linked with other clubs or one club Fair enough they want to hit the ground running but surly they have other scouts, looking at other players ? Or were they all at SMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Daily mail saying medical Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Just being realistic like with Poch. If Liverpool want Lambert then he will go. Not exactly a shock statement. Still so many with their heads in the sand. We are facing probably 4 or 5 of our very best players leaving this summer, not exactly fun times. But how is that the boards fault if they want to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Daily mail saying medical Saturday Thank god, Mail are always wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 When Ralph said everything must go at a discount, he meant in the Megastore but Les Reed mis-read the memo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 God i wish i wasn't a saints fan at the moment. We won't have 11 players to field a team next season and will probably have some plonker like oscar garcia or dan petrescu as manager. Will stick £100 on Saints being relegated as we must be the most sure fire bet ever!!!!! The national media seem intent on destroying Southampton Lets hope the board are not full of bullsh*tters and liars and do stay strong and not sell everyone off. If we sell 6 or 7 players we are fu**ed next season. Very fed up and frustrated Saints fan even though noone has actually left yet but definately fear the worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Thank god, Mail are always wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 You seem to be following me around like a certain ex-poster that has returned under another guise. I assume you are one of his 'other' logins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 It is becoming clear that the Board gave the green light to other clubs about 2-3 months back that there would be a clear out this summer, and are holding a mass auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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