Bearsy Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 at the end of the day does it matter how much we get for him, surely it is about losing him word, what this dumb board are about to find out is that it's about 10 times more difficult to sign good players than to sell them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 how much do you think we will spend on forwards? as with lambert and ossie going, we are going to need 2 at the very least maybe even 3 As the glass coffin salesman said - remains to be seen. Until Kruger comes out and says he will be spending the transfer fee on KFC and amyl nitrate, I see no need to be pessimistic. So we can't afford half a Lovren without selling Lambert? It all goes into the transfer kitty. However you try and dress it up, we have another £4m to spend on players this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m is robbery tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 that is my point. with Jrod out, ossie with seemingly no future lamberts value to the squad is far greater than £4m IMO as it stands, we needed ANOTHER to replace ossie had lambert stayed and jrod fully fit. now, we will need 2. so there is little chance we will be stronger for selling lambert But you think we're stronger right now with JUST Lambert than we will be when the window slams shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 word, what this dumb board are about to find out is that it's about 10 times more difficult to sign good players than to sell them Scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The ONLY reasonable alternate explanation I can come up with is that Rickie personally asked Les as a massive favor to let him go in respect of all his service to saints. And that Les, with respect for Rickie, agreed. That is the only reasonable alternate explanation.If SFC came out and said that I would lay off the rebuke for LR and RK. If its not that then any of the alternate explanations are enough to get any saints fan upset and incompetence does not start to describe this action or its potential consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Think I know how Bristol rovers fans felt now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
student Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 This guy has singlehandedly dragged you up through the leagues. Hes then kept you there. A while ago you were all moaning about how his legs had gone. Hes now been offered his boyhood dream. The club are quite right to do the right thing by him. Btw jackie c and jose f are the next ones to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The ONLY reasonable alternate explanation I can come up with is that Rickie personally asked Les as a massive favor to let him go in respect of all his service to saints. And that Les, with respect for Rickie, agreed. That is the only reasonable alternate explanation.If SFC came out and said that I would lay off the rebuke for LR and RK. If its not that then any of the alternate explanations are enough to get any saints fan upset and incompetence does not start to describe this action or its potential consequences. but they can't can they, that would be directly contrary to the terms and conditions set out by Krueger on Wednesday, that would be suiting the player rather than the club, it would be dealing on Liverpool's terms (ie before the WC or never) and not ours. The whole affair is just so contrary to conditions the krueger set out only the day before, it just makes no sense whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 This guy has singlehandedly dragged you up through the leagues. Hes then kept you there. A while ago you were all moaning about how his legs had gone. Hes now been offered his boyhood dream. The club are quite right to do the right thing by him. Btw jackie c and jose f are the next ones to go Guess or ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamRed Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The worst thing about this is not the transfer fee, it's that you can't have any hero's in football anymore. As you as you do, they **** you over. Whats the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The ONLY reasonable alternate explanation I can come up with is that Rickie personally asked Les as a massive favor to let him go in respect of all his service to saints. And that Les, with respect for Rickie, agreed. That is the only reasonable alternate explanation.If SFC came out and said that I would lay off the rebuke for LR and RK. If its not that then any of the alternate explanations are enough to get any saints fan upset and incompetence does not start to describe this action or its potential consequences. Don't want Saints board to be acting as the agent for our players getting them their dream moves whilst screwing the club over. I want them to act in the interests of Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 but they can't can they, that would be directly contrary to the terms and conditions set out by Krueger on Wednesday, that would be suiting the player rather than the club, it would be dealing on Liverpool's terms (ie before the WC or never) and not ours. The whole affair is just so contrary to conditions the krueger set out only the day before, it just makes no sense whatsoever. Yes that's true- but I think we have it clear now that RK and LR have issues.If they communicated better then RK would not have made himself look a right eejut with what he said - or LR would not have given the OK to LFC about Rickie knowing it contradicts what RK said barely a day earlier. Given that evidence it points to making it up as they go along. If they saw the sale of Rickie as a good bit of business for SFC then I'm sorry- I disagree with them strongly. I really don't think they have thought this through. The bit when RK was asked why it took so long to sort MP out and he said that they were just focused on the football and everyone was cool about it - well i'm sorry that is just nonsense and incompetence. Any half decent businessman needs to anticipate the dangers to his business. Losing your manager is a big risk. That should have been taken care of well ahead. But we lost him. We are now entering Oscar Wilde territory of carelessness with losing things now that talisman rickie is going youth team coaches are gone, first team captain is going and best young player is going..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 £4m is robbery tbf. It is isn't it. The more I think about it the ore convinced I am that Liverpool are completely running rings around our negotiators. Who is doing it? Reed or Krueger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Don't want Saints board to be acting as the agent for our players getting them their dream moves whilst screwing the club over. I want them to act in the interests of Saints. This. This is called strategic leadership, which to be fair to Cortese was not necessarily a popularity contest. Although our Board have probably cottoned on to that too now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Guess or ITK? Well he posted this on the 19th May: All is still going to plan, don't worry. Now the manager is officially in place the deal will be announced in the coming days. United will fly medics out to Portugal So I'd say guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The ONLY reasonable alternate explanation I can come up with is that Rickie personally asked Les as a massive favor to let him go in respect of all his service to saints. And that Les, with respect for Rickie, agreed. That is the only reasonable alternate explanation.If SFC came out and said that I would lay off the rebuke for LR and RK. If its not that then any of the alternate explanations are enough to get any saints fan upset and incompetence does not start to describe this action or its potential consequences. I am totally with you there mate. It is the only way it will cut Les and Ralph any slack with me. We have had our pants pulled down on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The worst thing about this is not the transfer fee, it's that you can't have any hero's in football anymore. As you as you do, they **** you over. Whats the point? you cannot believe a single word that RK or the rest of the board say ever again (Les made a similar promise, remember?) - IF RL goes prior to a new manager/coach being appointed! More likely, the complete opposite is likely to happen! SIMPLES!!! If true it's a very very sad day - RK will be a bigger liar than Rupert, Wilde, Askham and the rest of them put together! The only way RL can come out of this with a grain of dignity, is to say KL shafted me well and truly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Y We are now entering Oscar Wilde territory of carelessness with losing things now that talisman rickie is going youth team coaches are gone, first team captain is going and best young player is going..... Oscar Wilde ? I was thinking more Elizabeth Bishop actually. The art of losing isn't hard to master ... Lose something every day etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 From the importance of being Earnest. "To lose one parent me worthing may be regarded as a misfortune, to lose both looks like carelessness".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 From the importance of being Earnest. "To lose one parent me worthing may be regarded as a misfortune, to lose both looks like carelessness".... yes I know the work....sat through endless amateur productions of the affair. Still prefer Bishop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Gallagher is no Lambert and £4m won't buy a replacement. No doubt Rickie was blinded by it being Liverpool but it will be interesting to see how often he starts a game. Clearly there was no effort to persuade him otherwise, because as soon as Liverpool said take it or leave it, our lot rolled over. With The Echo suggesting the same will happen with Man U and Shaw, anyone who was encouraged by Kruguer's interview can forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Gallagher is no Lambert and £4m won't buy a replacement. No doubt Rickie was blinded by it being Liverpool but it will be interesting to see how often he starts a game. Clearly there was no effort to persuade him otherwise, because as soon as Liverpool said take it or leave it, our lot rolled over. With The Echo suggesting the same will happen with Man U and Shaw, anyone who was encouraged by Kruguer's interview can forget it. Who cares about buying a replacement, we're the academy to end all academies remember,we've spent enough money on it. All those stars just waiting for their chance, no point in holding them back to let dinosaurs play every week.:rolleyes: What does it matter if your ass gets kicked every game as long as you're populating the England Unders sides at every level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I want to say thanks Rickie, you've been brilliant for saints, a true legend and thanks for everything. Here's hoping you kill it in the WC and get a few goals next season for your boyhood team. Good luck and best wishes big man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitch Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Cracks me up! Only a few months ago the number of posts saying how we need more strikers over the summer, SRL's legs have gone etc. Now he's the most important player in the squad! Personally, I'll be completely gutted if he goes. Dunno about anyone else, but he was the forthcoming world cup highlight for me, knowing that Ads and LS are probably gone. A true club legend, but the point is that his boyhood club have come knocking for him in the twilight of his career.....you can only wish him well, surely? Don't trust the board too much, but we'll just have to sit tight I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzybear Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 at the end of the day does it matter how much we get for him, surely it is about losing him I couldn't agree with you more Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The ONLY reasonable alternate explanation I can come up with is that Rickie personally asked Les as a massive favor to let him go in respect of all his service to saints. And that Les, with respect for Rickie, agreed. That is the only reasonable alternate explanation.If SFC came out and said that I would lay off the rebuke for LR and RK. If its not that then any of the alternate explanations are enough to get any saints fan upset and incompetence does not start to describe this action or its potential consequences. IMO that set of circumstances would not be reasonable. We are a business and a football club. Yes, I feel that if LFC came in and RL wants to go (I would try my best to at least try to persuade him to stay), then given his service I could see a case for giving him permission to talk to them. BUT they have absolutely butt****ed us over the price...3.4 - 4million? Really?? Take it or leave it? Yes leave it....go **** yourselves you cheeky scally ****s and go jump in the Mersey and drown you ****s would be my response. Ralph & Les - sure where do we sign? ****S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The worst thing about this is not the transfer fee, it's that you can't have any hero's in football anymore. As you as you do, they **** you over. Whats the point? We reached that point a long time ago - you have to accept that for all players and managers its just a job / project ...they aren't going to have the passion and dedication that fans have despite all the badge kissing stuff and thumping of chests. They are upwardly mobile - just think about us going to pick up players like Clyne, Wanyama, Lovren etc - they all let down their sides at the time to join us. btw SRL will always be a hero for us, and we should never forget it. Imagine you are a Saints fan and play footy as a professional. You get rejected by Saints in the early years, work your way around the lower leagues, spend your finest years dragging some team like Hull up through the leagues to the EPL - then Saints come back and ask if you'd like to play for them for your last season in the EPL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 The most distressing thing about this transfer is that I'll now have to like Liverpool a bit. Only a bit, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 This guy has singlehandedly dragged you up through the leagues. Hes then kept you there. A while ago you were all moaning about how his legs had gone. Hes now been offered his boyhood dream. The club are quite right to do the right thing by him. Btw jackie c and jose f are the next ones to go TBH I think we have done just as much for him as he has done for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 TBH I think we have done just as much for him as he has done for us. Dead right. To suggest he singlehandedly dragged us up through the leagues is laughable unless you happen agree with Poyet's assertion that the rest of our side was only as good as Dagenham & Redbridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I want to say thanks Rickie, you've been brilliant for saints, a true legend and thanks for everything. Here's hoping you kill it in the WC and get a few goals next season for your boyhood team. Good luck and best wishes big man sad news for Saints fans, but he's done well for us, and tbh I don't begrudge him the chance......especially as it's Liverpool. I find it less upsetting than the thought of some of the others might be going to the likes of Tottenham and Man.U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 sad news for Saints fans, but he's done well for us, and tbh I don't begrudge him the chance......especially as it's Liverpool. I find it less upsetting than the thought of some of the others might be going to the likes of Tottenham and Man.U. I don t give a **** that his boyhood team is Liverpool. The only thing that would compensates for his loss is the transfer fee and we haven't even got that! If Shaw goes for 30 million and Lallana for 25 million then it help compensate their exits. 4 million for Lambert is just taking the **** and how the board have accepted this amount i Will never know. I bet we don t even get some of that amount up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 (edited) Whilst I can't begrudge Rickie his boyhood dream, when the F**k Is someone going to stand up for Southampton FC. RK is looking like a complete mug, and the board are looking like spineless morons. The day after he states No deals until new manager in he sells our talismanic striker. We are looking so weak already it's frightening, no Lambert, no Rodriguez until realistically November, probably no Lallana/Shaw. We are looking seriously short for next season, and how can we replace someone of Rickie's stature for a paltry 4 - million. This looks like asset stripping, and goes along with what's happened with the rest of her fathers assets so far. I hope to he'll I'm panicking over nothing and this post can be ridiculed at a later date, but it's not looking clever at the moment. Edited 30 May, 2014 by Under Weststand spelling error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Three inevitables: Death Taxes Footballers getting bought and sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 sad news for Saints fans, but he's done well for us, and tbh I don't begrudge him the chance......especially as it's Liverpool. I find it less upsetting than the thought of some of the others might be going to the likes of Tottenham and Man.U. I don't begrudge him the chance to play for his boyhood team and to end his career there but seeing Rickie go has upset me more than losing Lallana and Shaw will do. Rickie Lambert was the heart and soul of the clubs revival. More than any other player I'm gutted to see him go. What really annoys me is he will probably only be a bit part player at Liverpool next year but for us he would have been a very important player starting many more games in a Saints shirt than he will a Liverpool one. He won't get the chances to score from set pieces there either like he does here. Gerrard will be taking the penalties and free kicks. I do wish him luck though, he has been my favourite player since Matt. I just can't believe we sold him off so cheap. Who else will we bring in for 4 million that will offer us what he did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 There's no way he would've started more than 10 games for us next season. You could see his body's starting to call time on his career yhis season. He's had to work as hard as anyone possibly could to keep match fit, but still clearly struggled to keep up for the full 90 mins. He'll be a bench warmer at Liverpool. Super sub if he can keep his skills honed. Brilliant for team building to have his enthusiasm, attitude and experience at the training ground though, so another shrewd move by Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 confirmed by hodgson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Nice to see the club are on the ball. An incredibly transparent outfit we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Nice to see the club are on the ball. An incredibly transparent outfit we have. What do you expect? A personal text message every time we receive a bid? That's not how football works and you know it. People need to get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Nice to see the club are on the ball. An incredibly transparent outfit we have. FFS how many times. They will communicate when there is something to say, like that they want money from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 What do you expect? A personal text message every time we receive a bid? That's not how football works and you know it. People need to get a grip. So it's not official yet? Someone should tell the England manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 If I am being optimistic, I'd have been worried if the fee was 9m. If that was the case then I'd have seen it as a makeweight in any Lallana deal (designed to offset a sell on to Bournemouth). But I do think the board have made a mistake by not categorically ruling out sales before the world cup. As it is we seem open for business and not in control of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 cortese would've pulled the plug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 confirmed by hodgson Sorry, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Sorry, what? Hodgson said "Lambert will be boosted by his transfer to liverpool" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Hodgson said "Lambert will be boosted by his transfer to liverpool" And you're the only person to comment on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 And you're the only person to comment on it? Resignation perhaps. That's what he said word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 And you're the only person to comment on it? Maybe SWF members need sharper ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I must admit, it will be so, so, so odd to see Lambert playing for another team. Just plain downright weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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