Administration is the ONLY way to break this downward spiral

[NickG]

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[St Paul]

Had Leon Crouch got rid of Pearson appointed Jan and had a season like this, what would people be saying about him?

[NickG]

same as we did when he appointed Dodd!

 

They are all pretty much as bad as each other

[saintwarwick]

Frankly I am gob smacked that there is any person left who can defend Rupert Lowe. His diviseivness has split the fan base, reduced the income of the club he was allegedly trying to save. As I said in a previous post, no other person in the history of the club has done so much to destroy Saints.

An honest hard look at his history should convince most that he is not fit to be any where near our club.

Bring on Administration if it gets rid of Lowe and Wilde and do it NOW

 

I'm not defending Lowe but how can you say he is destroying the club? Most fans on here who hate Lowe say he is only in it for the money so if he destroys the club how is he going to make money? I think most if not all will agree that Lowe, Wilde and Crouch should disappear altogether and bring someone fresh in but where is this alternative and why has that person/persons not moved quickly to settle the unrest amongst the fans, simple answer, there is no alternative.

[um pahars]

I hope your nephew can get our next lot of youth players into a better shape and ready to play first team football.

 

Go back and read exactly what I posted about my nephew!!!!!!

 

(He's 6 and trains once a week with the some young lads from Saints - along with about 50 others LOL)

[OldNick]

Go back and read exactly what I posted about my nephew!!!!!!

 

(He's 6 and trains once a week with the some young lads from Saints - along with about 50 others LOL)

Your wording was not clear, working with the coaching staff is not how most would have put it.I suggest most would have said , my nephew is part of the youth squad. He hardly works, he trains or is that not the buzz word these days

[saint1977]

I'm not defending Lowe but how can you say he is destroying the club? Most fans on here who hate Lowe say he is only in it for the money so if he destroys the club how is he going to make money? I think most if not all will agree that Lowe, Wilde and Crouch should disappear altogether and bring someone fresh in but where is this alternative and why has that person/persons not moved quickly to settle the unrest amongst the fans, simple answer, there is no alternative.

 

I'm really beginning to see that on this site we are agreeing that the 3 amigos need to go and go now. I'm not sure that we neccessarily need an alternative at this stage, we won't know what's genuinely out there as Lordswood Saint hit the nail on the head on another thread - the 3 Amigos do not want to sell and with their chums and proxy muppets, they own an awful lot of the club. After all, potential investors will want to spend their money on the club and not bail out the failures of the last 4 years mismanagement and incompetence which ALL THREE of the main shareholders have been responsible for.

 

Rupert Lowe is killing the club though with his appalling choice in managers - JP, Gray, Wigley, Sturrock - I'll excuse him Burley and Redknapp as those appointments had a fair bit of fan support. It's also fine to create a top-class academy but you have to be able to fund it and the quality of product has dried up, meaning that he can't effectively substitute academy expenditure for first team budgets but still needs to pay the mortgage on the stadium. SCW would have been a cracking, innovative idea in the Premier League but we couldn't afford the additional overhead in the CCC.

[um pahars]

Your wording was not clear, working with the coaching staff is not how most would have put it.I suggest most would have said , my nephew is part of the youth squad. He hardly works, he trains or is that not the buzz word these days

 

It was rather tongue in cheek and just to wind good old Bern up a bit (humour is often lost on here at times)!!!!

[St Paul]

same as we did when he appointed Dodd!

 

They are all pretty much as bad as each other

 

He soon moved D & G over and got in Pearson, will Lowe do the same? Or will his ego over his "total football revolution" get in the way?

[saintjay77]

I'm really beginning to see that on this site we are agreeing that the 3 amigos need to go and go now. I'm not sure that we neccessarily need an alternative at this stage, we won't know what's genuinely out there as Lordswood Saint hit the nail on the head on another thread - the 3 Amigos do not want to sell and with their chums and proxy muppets, they own an awful lot of the club. After all, potential investors will want to spend their money on the club and not bail out the failures of the last 4 years mismanagement and incompetence which ALL THREE of the main shareholders have been responsible for.

 

Rupert Lowe is killing the club though with his appalling choice in managers - JP, Gray, Wigley, Sturrock - I'll excuse him Burley and Redknapp as those appointments had a fair bit of fan support. It's also fine to create a top-class academy but you have to be able to fund it and the quality of product has dried up, meaning that he can't effectively substitute academy expenditure for first team budgets but still needs to pay the mortgage on the stadium. SCW would have been a cracking, innovative idea in the Premier League but we couldn't afford the additional overhead in the CCC.

 

Some of that is a bit unfair IMO. Gray and Wigley were wrong choices but looking back at the options its understandable why they were given a go. Shame they didnt produce but its in the past now.

 

Sturrock was IMO a good choice based on our funds not allowing us the free reign on bringing in the top big name managers. He was a manager from lower divissions that was doing well. He had a track record for taking a team and slowly building that team to be much stronger than was expected of them. We have a go at Lowe for not acting soon enough but on the Sturrock occasion its almost as if he wasnt given enough time.

 

Burley and Redcrapp? Shows what we know dont it lol.

 

WGS and Hoddle are 2 more you missed off of that little list that to be fair should be included. The fans were not happy with either as WGS failed at Cov and Hoddle's ideas for england would have made us a laughing stock for giving him the time of day. Hoddle took us to the best league position for years and withing touching distance of a europe spot and WGS gave us 1 step further and a FA Cup final.

 

If we are going to beat Lowe for his bad decissions that we all knew best on surly he should get some sort of praise for the good decissions that we all thought were going to be a load of carp?

[saintjay77]

He soon moved D & G over and got in Pearson, will Lowe do the same? Or will his ego over his "total football revolution" get in the way?

 

Soon you say? if he kept them on any longer there would have been people jumping from the itchen!!!!

[Mole]

Had Leon Crouch got rid of Pearson appointed Jan and had a season like this, what would people be saying about him?

 

Ruperts rat pack would be having a field day.

[OldNick]

It was rather tongue in cheek and just to wind good old Bern up a bit (humour is often lost on here at times)!!!!

I dont think you should go on tour with material like that UM, keep to the stuff you did the other night.

PS It did seem to me you were trying to scoff at my post but we all have different ideas of humour.

[saint1977]

Some of that is a bit unfair IMO. Gray and Wigley were wrong choices but looking back at the options its understandable why they were given a go. Shame they didnt produce but its in the past now.

 

Sturrock was IMO a good choice based on our funds not allowing us the free reign on bringing in the top big name managers. He was a manager from lower divissions that was doing well. He had a track record for taking a team and slowly building that team to be much stronger than was expected of them. We have a go at Lowe for not acting soon enough but on the Sturrock occasion its almost as if he wasnt given enough time.

 

Burley and Redcrapp? Shows what we know dont it lol.

 

WGS and Hoddle are 2 more you missed off of that little list that to be fair should be included. The fans were not happy with either as WGS failed at Cov and Hoddle's ideas for england would have made us a laughing stock for giving him the time of day. Hoddle took us to the best league position for years and withing touching distance of a europe spot and WGS gave us 1 step further and a FA Cup final.

 

If we are going to beat Lowe for his bad decissions that we all knew best on surly he should get some sort of praise for the good decissions that we all thought were going to be a load of carp?

 

On the contrary, WGS and Hoddle were superb appointments and for where the club was at the time, Dave Jones was a handy appointment too. Not the best tactically but Jones has always bought shrewdly whereever he's been - look at the Cardiff side he's built and watch them murder us at SMS. That said, Rupert was correct to replace him with Hoddle as Dave had other things on his mind and you can't blame him really.

 

Sturrock was an odd one, never understood what went on there. With Wigley and Gray though, I'm sorry but does anyone REALLY think those were sensible options? Name a club (bar Adkins at S****horpe who already had a good side built by Laws) where the cheap internal option has worked? Answer me this - if Stuart Gray was so hot, why did Rupert take FOUR months to appoint him? Answer, because Moyes and McClaren and the other candidates knew the likes of Gibson and Kenwright wouldn't be poking their inexpert noses in every 2 minutes. As soon as we appointed Wigley, I knew we were down, even in August. When the CEO makes the same basic mistake twice and it reduce the company's income to a fraction, that should be a dismissable offence.

[saintjay77]

On the contrary, WGS and Hoddle were superb appointments and for where the club was at the time, Dave Jones was a handy appointment too. Not the best tactically but Jones has always bought shrewdly whereever he's been - look at the Cardiff side he's built and watch them murder us at SMS. That said, Rupert was correct to replace him with Hoddle as Dave had other things on his mind and you can't blame him really.

 

Sturrock was an odd one, never understood what went on there. With Wigley and Gray though, I'm sorry but does anyone REALLY think those were sensible options? Name a club (bar Adkins at S****horpe who already had a good side built by Laws) where the cheap internal option has worked? Answer me this - if Stuart Gray was so hot, why did Rupert take FOUR months to appoint him? Answer, because Moyes and McClaren and the other candidates knew the likes of Gibson and Kenwright wouldn't be poking their inexpert noses in every 2 minutes. As soon as we appointed Wigley, I knew we were down, even in August. When the CEO makes the same basic mistake twice and it reduce the company's income to a fraction, that should be a dismissable offence.

 

Rupes is not the only one to give the cheap option a chance and I think Gray and Wigleys record for the same number of games is better than JP's and D&G's albeit all under different circumstances. Rupes leads the lone though for giving the cheap option a chance for longer than needed though i will give ya that much. lol

[saint1977]

Rupes is not the only one to give the cheap option a chance and I think Gray and Wigleys record for the same number of games is better than JP's and D&G's albeit all under different circumstances. Rupes leads the lone though for giving the cheap option a chance for longer than needed though i will give ya that much. lol

 

No worries buddy, wasn't having a pop. Have a good festive period.