washsaint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 MP had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Saints (35+ years) We did not score enough goals and MP had no Plan B: now the Prem is fully aware of his style we may well see teams developing strategies for dealing this style of play (and did at stages last season) This is an opportunity for the new Board to prove their mettle: hopefully they are up to the challenge (and it is a big challenge) MP made our players much better, no question but had a dubious record in the transfer market (Osvaldo especially) Our great youth setup was in place long before MP and hopefully will continue to churn out talent on a regular basis No one person is bigger than the club If we lose any/many players we will be in a terrific position financially and hopefully KL will back the new manager in a positive way to bring in reinforcements Club did not fall apart when Adkins was sacked or when NC left and no reason to assume it will now We need to make an appointment quickly and ensure we keep the nucleus of the team together Oh well, onwards and upwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Hit Nail The Head: Reassemble the above words as you please but that's opening post is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Best thread on here since last game of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I´m not doubting the position we´re in. I´m doubting that what we get for sold players actually will go back into the squad and once you start to save money on the squad you´re flirting with disaster. And it´s not so much about losing MP (which though is a great disappointment) but also what the players will feel at the moment as it is very clear they love playing for him. The manager coming in has a great task. Has to either be a name that inspires the players in itself, like a De Boer/Begkamp combo or that manager has to make the same first impression as MP did when he came in. Doesn´t change the love and support for the club, just that it at the moment is very much up in the air in what direction we´re going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 (edited) MP had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Saints (35+ years) We did not score enough goals and MP had no Plan B: now the Prem is fully aware of his style we may well see teams developing strategies for dealing this style of play (and did at stages last season) This is an opportunity for the new Board to prove their mettle: hopefully they are up to the challenge (and it is a big challenge) MP made our players much better, no question but had a dubious record in the transfer market (Osvaldo especially) Our great youth setup was in place long before MP and hopefully will continue to churn out talent on a regular basis No one person is bigger than the club If we lose any/many players we will be in a terrific position financially and hopefully KL will back the new manager in a positive way to bring in reinforcements Club did not fall apart when Adkins was sacked or when NC left and no reason to assume it will now We need to make an appointment quickly and ensure we keep the nucleus of the team together Oh well, onwards and upwards This works for me. Once Cortese had left, which in itself only seemed like a matter of time after he had squared up to KL last summer, the boards relationship with Pochetino seemed like parents trying to stay in touch with their nippers girlfriend, after he had buggered off with someone else. The board need to build something for themselves now, that they have invested in. They might do a good job, they might not! Can't wait to see. Edited 27 May, 2014 by colehillsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 MP had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Saints (35+ years) We did not score enough goals and MP had no Plan B: now the Prem is fully aware of his style we may well see teams developing strategies for dealing this style of play (and did at stages last season) This is an opportunity for the new Board to prove their mettle: hopefully they are up to the challenge (and it is a big challenge) MP made our players much better, no question but had a dubious record in the transfer market (Osvaldo especially) Our great youth setup was in place long before MP and hopefully will continue to churn out talent on a regular basis No one person is bigger than the club If we lose any/many players we will be in a terrific position financially and hopefully KL will back the new manager in a positive way to bring in reinforcements Club did not fall apart when Adkins was sacked or when NC left and no reason to assume it will now We need to make an appointment quickly and ensure we keep the nucleus of the team together Oh well, onwards and upwards This 100% this :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berudenot2 Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I really want to believe that the style of play introduced by MP, the high tempo, fully committed approach which was so entertaining even when we didn't win, I'm thinking Arsenal at home, will be continued and I really hope that RK will act promptly in appointing a quality manager who's leadership will inspire our younger players to stay and whose ambition to improve on past results will see us both entertained and delighted. I fear that I'm sadly deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 MP had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Saints (35+ years) We did not score enough goals and MP had no Plan B: now the Prem is fully aware of his style we may well see teams developing strategies for dealing this style of play (and did at stages last season) This is an opportunity for the new Board to prove their mettle: hopefully they are up to the challenge (and it is a big challenge) MP made our players much better, no question but had a dubious record in the transfer market (Osvaldo especially) Our great youth setup was in place long before MP and hopefully will continue to churn out talent on a regular basis No one person is bigger than the club If we lose any/many players we will be in a terrific position financially and hopefully KL will back the new manager in a positive way to bring in reinforcements Club did not fall apart when Adkins was sacked or when NC left and no reason to assume it will now We need to make an appointment quickly and ensure we keep the nucleus of the team together Oh well, onwards and upwards A good post, but the key to a short recovery time is making the right appointment - quickly. I for one have no faith in the SFC board being capable of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 A good post, but the key to a short recovery time is making the right appointment - quickly. I for one have no faith in the SFC board being capable of doing so. Have we ever been more attractive to top managers? Im not sure it needs to be done quickly, unless they know who they want already? We will be inundated with offers and rushing to appoint someone is not vital imho. If we dont have anyone by mid June id be worried. Get Mr Right, not Mr Right-now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Have we ever been more attractive to top managers? Im not sure it needs to be done quickly, unless they know who they want already? We will be inundated with offers and rushing to appoint someone is not vital imho. If we dont have anyone by mid June id be worried. Get Mr Right, not Mr Right-now A quick appointment is necessary in order to save as many of our first XI as possible. He needs to be up-and-running with some plans by the time our international players get back from Rio, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 A quick appointment is necessary in order to save as many of our first XI as possible. He needs to be up-and-running with some plans by the time our international players get back from Rio, in my opinion. Seems fair, i think we will apoint someone within 2 weeks. Whose your top choice? Im leaning towards Murat Yakin. The more i read, the more i like the sound of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Seems fair, i think we will apoint someone within 2 weeks. Whose your top choice? Im leaning towards Murat Yakin. The more i read, the more i like the sound of him I dont have a favourite - yet. But I am thinking David Moyes will be feeling he has a point to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Seems fair, i think we will apoint someone within 2 weeks. Whose your top choice? Im leaning towards Murat Yakin. The more i read, the more i like the sound of him Looks bloody great doesn't he? I had already decided not to renew my season ticket until Saturday afternoon to give this Ralph bloke a bit of a fright, but if Murat stays at low odds I think I'm going to be caving in and getting the Visa out on Thursday evening. UTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Draw a line under it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I dont have a favourite - yet. But I am thinking David Moyes will be feeling he has a point to prove. Would be pleased with Moyes too. 10 months ago he was one of the hottest properties in football.... Looks bloody great doesn't he? I had already decided not to renew my season ticket until Saturday afternoon to give this Ralph bloke a bit of a fright, but if Murat stays at low odds I think I'm going to be caving in and getting the Visa out on Thursday evening. UTS. Be strong... Hold out until Yakin is appointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I have been impressed with Basel . It was only recently I found out that Yakin was their manager . We have had a couple if summer camp games over there so the club will be aware of his abilities . Yakin is the manager for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I dont have a favourite - yet. But I am thinking David Moyes will be feeling he has a point to prove. For the above reason, Moyes or Hoddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Guido Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 MP had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Saints (35+ years) We did not score enough goals and MP had no Plan B: now the Prem is fully aware of his style we may well see teams developing strategies for dealing this style of play (and did at stages last season) This is an opportunity for the new Board to prove their mettle: hopefully they are up to the challenge (and it is a big challenge) MP made our players much better, no question but had a dubious record in the transfer market (Osvaldo especially) Our great youth setup was in place long before MP and hopefully will continue to churn out talent on a regular basis No one person is bigger than the club If we lose any/many players we will be in a terrific position financially and hopefully KL will back the new manager in a positive way to bring in reinforcements Club did not fall apart when Adkins was sacked or when NC left and no reason to assume it will now We need to make an appointment quickly and ensure we keep the nucleus of the team together Oh well, onwards and upwards Spot on, well said that man. Its all terribly disappointing but ultimately 'twas inevitable once we dared to challenge the "bigger" clubs. Just proves again that the only loyalty in football come from the fans. Everyone else involved only cares about the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 MP had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Saints (35+ years) We did not score enough goals and MP had no Plan B: now the Prem is fully aware of his style we may well see teams developing strategies for dealing this style of play (and did at stages last season) This is an opportunity for the new Board to prove their mettle: hopefully they are up to the challenge (and it is a big challenge) MP made our players much better, no question but had a dubious record in the transfer market (Osvaldo especially) Our great youth setup was in place long before MP and hopefully will continue to churn out talent on a regular basis No one person is bigger than the club If we lose any/many players we will be in a terrific position financially and hopefully KL will back the new manager in a positive way to bring in reinforcements Club did not fall apart when Adkins was sacked or when NC left and no reason to assume it will now We need to make an appointment quickly and ensure we keep the nucleus of the team together Oh well, onwards and upwards Well said and the sentence highlighted is the most important within it... I am sorry to see MP go, he has done a great job here but he never had an emotional attachment to the club and his moving on was sadly inevitable. If he has a good season at Spuds I can see him Madrid or Barca bound, and they will be left feeling as disappointed as us. But onwards we go - and lets recruit his replacement well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Indeed, sorry to see him go, he did a tremendous job for us - but on a personal level it is difficult to get too attached to someone who kept such a low profile. Without wanting to sound all sour grapes, is he the man for Spurs? If you analyse what we have done so well under him it is the continuity through all levels of the club that allows the blooding of youth, the quality of the academy, the attractive football. We still have all that, he hasn't taken it all with him. Our attacking football bordered on the naive on occasions and we struggled to break down some poor teams, so without wanting to ignore the record points haul, even the biggest Poch fan has to admit that the great season we had, could've been even better. The Spurs job entails managing an overpaid squad that needs half a rebuild, and managing enormous and deluded expectations. Some at Spurs believe they are bigger than Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool. They are clearly not. Other than attractive football, his strengths at SMS don't really fit the Spurs job, I don't see them dropping half a dozen big names and blooding youth - but that's their problem. We need a quality appointment asap. Wavering players currently have a great excuse for leaving. Either way we are going to end the summer in a really strong position, or as the richest midtable club in the division. Saints are no longer a soft touch in the transfer market - Lallana and Shaw will cost you £80M, and we'll chuck in Hoiveld for an extra £5M. Another new era begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Time for reflection - I agree. But I would reflect on the bigger picture. We have to realise what the PL is what it is. Since Man City were taken over and had £££million pumped into them, the top 7 have been the same every single year with one exception being when Newcastle finished 5th (pushing Liverpool into 8th) a few years ago. Like it or not, Spurs have been in that top 7 the whole time, so people saying it is a sideways step are wrong. The rich are now getting richer, and everyone else is playing catch up. The last team that made a consistent break through was Villa who finished 6th something like 3 years in a row, but that was before City got going - look at them now. As we all know, all these clubs really want to do is qualify for CL. They don't care about the domestic competitions (save as a platitude to supporters when you have mucked up elsewhere). Looking at next season, I can't see anyone new breaking into the top 7, nor can I see it in the foreseeable future. Can Spurs finish top 4 on a regular basis? Frankly I really don't care - it's the top 7 and "the rest" and we are in "the rest". We dared to break into the top 7 (and I think that we should have last season) but that's it. So reflecting on this, I have to toss up whether I want to bother carrying on with watching the PL. I love Saints so no doubt I will, but I can't really see the point in partaking in a competition purely to make up the numbers. If Scudamore and the PL are happy with the way things are, then that is their choice - it's their business. Those clubs that are getting ever richer aren't going to allow change. There was a meek attempt at FFP rules, but really, this doesn't affect "the rest" and is just to stop one of the top 7 being overly dominant over the other 6. If UEFA are happy with the CL and the way it dominates national leagues then that's fine as well, but I do question why they just don't go the whole hog and set up their European Super League. It's been talked about for decades, so surprised it hasn't come to fruition yet. But, reflecting further, I guess that we should be thankful that the club isn't in bad shape. We could be Pompey or Leeds or Brum or......The only way I can see anything chance is if Mansour or Ambramovich decide that they have had enough and call their loans back in (if there are any remaining that haven't been written off). Maybe in a few years time West Ham might be up there. They are to get a hugely subsidised stadium, like Man City, so who knows..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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