How to replace Lallana...if he goes.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

This is a purely hypothetical thread, but how do people want to see us replace Adam if he leaves?

 

For me, we already have a ready made replacement in the weirdly haired shape of Gaston Ramirez. I for one, don't think he will be leaving this Summer, and I think if he can actually put some consistent performances together he has the talent to be as effective as Adam.

 

Look at some stats from last season:

 

Lallana

Tournament Apps Goals Assists Shots Key Passes Dribbles Fouled Offs Disp Trn Rating

Premier League* 37(1) 9 6 1.8 1.9 1.8 2 0.4 2.4 2.4 7.21

 

Ramirez

Tournament Apps Goals Assists Shots Key Passes Dribbles Fouled Offs Disp Trn Rating

Premier League* 3(15) 1 3 1.2 0.8 0.9 0.7 0.1 1.3 1 6.5

 

 

Considering the number of minutes spent on the pitch compared to Lallana (3038), Ramirez's (520) statistics show that he could well make the step up, or in fact eclipse Adam' influence. Bear in mind as well, he is only 23.

 

That's my thoughts on the matter anyway.

[angelman]

Do you think Ramirez will be staying, or are all the noises from his agent about moving back to Italy a bit hollow?

[Smirking_Saint]

Always thought Ramirez had the ability, arguably you cant have both Adam and Ramirez in the side which is a shame. Ramirez' problem will be if he stays fit enough to be consistant considering he seems to pick up knocks at alarming regularity

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Do you think Ramirez will be staying, or are all the noises from his agent about moving back to Italy a bit hollow?

 

I think it's agent noises. He wants to be playing more, that's it, as does any young footballer. Adam leaving would give him that opportunity.

[Professor]

And who replaces Ramirez?

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Pretty obvious the talent is there. But is the commitment and work rate? Or the faith from the manager? Ramirez wasted a year, it's a shame. But let's be honest, if Lallana goes we won't be able to sign a better replacement in terms of talent than Ramirez.

 

He barely featured last year. So technically we could replace Lallana for free. Sign Sinclair, give Reed more time, utilise Ramirez and you could have 3 good attacking options for a 2-3m investment.

 

I don't think he uncommitted, I also don't think his work rate is that bad, he's certainly not on Osvaldo's level.

 

I personally don't rate Sinclair, but he is a speedy option.

[Smirking_Saint]

Pretty obvious the talent is there. But is the commitment and work rate? Or the faith from the manager? Ramirez wasted a year, it's a shame. But let's be honest, if Lallana goes we won't be able to sign a better replacement in terms of talent than Ramirez.

 

He barely featured last year. So technically we could replace Lallana for free. Sign Sinclair, give Reed more time, utilise Ramirez and you could have 3 good attacking options for a 2-3m investment.

 

Often wondered about Sinclair, he could probably do with someone picking him up cheap, putting their arm round him and giving him a chance. Didnt do much at WBA though unfortunately. Rodwell is another worth a punt (not necessarily us as he seems to play the same role as cork)

[shurlock]

Would love to get Afellay in.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Always thought Ramirez had the ability, arguably you cant have both Adam and Ramirez in the side which is a shame. Ramirez' problem will be if he stays fit enough to be consistant considering he seems to pick up knocks at alarming regularity

 

And I believe that's been oe of the main issues he hasn't been playing, especially as Poch does like to keep it tight, you can't really have two flair players in the same side.

[Convict Colony]

I think Gaston has been looking decent when he appeared finally this season, it was the form of the guys in the team stopping him getting more time which is a credit to him.

 

Have high hopes for next season with him.

[Olallana]

In a selfish kind of way for Saints I was almost hoping the he wouldn´t make their WC squad, think he would benefit from a break now and a proper preseason.

 

I´m not sure playing him and Lallana together is the problem, for me he needs a striker with better movement than Lambert can offer so he can put his throughballs into the game more.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

Gaston's face just doesn't fit in Pochettino's system. I like him as a player but he needs a game played at a slower pace and with a bit more forward movement ahead of him. Lallana should be replaced with a new signing. I've no idea who.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

In a selfish kind of way for Saints I was almost hoping the he wouldn´t make their WC squad, think he would benefit from a break now and a proper preseason.

 

I´m not sure playing him and Lallana together is the problem, for me he needs a striker with better movement than Lambert can offer so he can put his throughballs into the game more.

 

I believe we'll have to look for a new striker this Summer though, and it's not as if we can sign anyone who can make less runs off the ball.

 

Chuck £15m at Villa and see if they'd let Benteke leave...

[shurlock]

Any stats also have to compare the defensive side of their games given MP's setup. Pretty sure the difference between Lallana and Ramirez becomes even clearer with those.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Any stats also have to compare the defensive side of their games given MP's setup. Pretty sure the difference between Lallana and Ramirez becomes even clearer with those.

 

Perhaps.

[Dig Dig]

Gaston could be good with a run of games but will that ever happen? When an opportunity comes and we need him, he himself is not available. Where was he when Rodriguez got injured?

 

He can't be relied upon

[Unbelievable Jeff]

It's not bad, he's not lazy, but it's not up to the level of most MP's preferred options like Lallana, Davis, JRod. No doubt we have a talented player there though, who must be disappointed with his season.

 

Sinclair is an odd one, might be rubbish now, but he had a lot of talent. Good pace, good shot. Can't see such a viable JRod replacement for that value elsewhere.

 

I see him as a younger Wayne Routledge...

[Turkish]

If there is one thing we can be sure of and that is that should Lallana go, the board will obtain the best deal possible and act in the interest of SFC. They will also quietly go about the business of replacing him and securing that players service effectively with the minimum of fuss.

[norwaysaint]

People forget that last year Ramirez' goal scoring record was better than JRod's, but JRod was given the benefit of the doubt by most and repaid it by having an excellent season this year. Ramirez was dropped and hardly featured, his form dropped pretty low. Who knows how well Ramirez would've done if he'd been given the chances JRod was. Would we have written JRod off if he'd been dropped? It's been ages since he had a decent run in the team.

[Rebel]

I think it's time for Ramirez to go - he's not really suited to the Premier league - he just not dynamic enough in possession or when trying to get the ball back

 

Let's hope he has a good World Cup so we can get most of our money back for him

 

We need a right winger and some pace - so for me Scott Sinclair would be a good replacement for Gaston at £2-3 million - he does need some TLC though

 

As for replacing Lallana we should solve two problems in one - and swap Osvaldo with Valencia for some cash and Banega. Valencia are apparently interested in The Great Osvaldo and look like they want to get rid of Banega as he's on loam at Newells Old Boys at the moment

 

And if QPR and the twitcher fail to get promoted I'd replace Osvaldo with Charlie Austin for £6-7 million

 

We still need another good forward though - Lukaku or Piazon on loan from Chelsea would do

 

And I'd also go after someone like Henri Lansbury or Josh McCreacham to give us another attacking option in midfield

 

We also need another left back whatever happens - Ryan Bertrand or that Timothee Kolosomething sounds good to me - and Steven Caulker would add the defender we need as well

[Olallana]

If there is one thing we can be sure of and that is that should Lallana go, the board will obtain the best deal possible and act in the interest of SFC. They will also quietly go about the business of replacing him and securing that players service effectively with the minimum of fuss.

 

Well done mate, now you´re a two-trick-pony!

It´s called progression I´ve heard!

[Hatch]

a decent WC and then a decent season for Saints, SPurs will buy Gaston for £30m

[goneawol]

We've been linked with Braga's Rafa Silva a few times since February (included in Portugal's WC squad)

 

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[Alanh]

To replace Lallana I'd go for Silva, Mirko Marin or possibly Ben Arfa. Rakitic would be amazing but he might be out of our league. Couple one of them with Ramirez and you'd have creativity in the team. Not sure they would offer the defensive side of things that AL offers, and they would have to buy into Poch's philosophy - which might be tricky for someone like Ben Arfa.

 

None of the combinations would offer what AL offers but with time and discipline they could work out.

[Batman]

Gaston clearly has the talent. Clearly

 

Does he has the work rate that Adam has? So far, no way.

If he had that, he would not be playing at saints

[70's Mike]

just seen an up and coming player called matt le tiss , bit slow, bit over weight but spraying the ball about all over the pitch

[sandwichsaint]

If there is one thing we can be sure of and that is that should Lallana go, the board will obtain the best deal possible and act in the interest of SFC. They will also quietly go about the business of replacing him and securing that players service effectively with the minimum of fuss.

 

 

You got that hospitality manager's gig yet? Certainly making all the right noises now.

[Batman]

if he had that, perhaps he would be playing at saints, not sitting on the bench.

 

if he was at the standard of lallana, we would never be able to afford him

[Coxford_lou]

I´m not sure playing him and Lallana together is the problem, for me he needs a striker with better movement than Lambert can offer so he can put his throughballs into the game more.

 

Gallagher? No one spots his moves...yet.

[Brave Sir Robin]

We can't.

 

Well we can, but it'll involve someone in the academy now deciding they want to emulate Matt Le Tiss, then having the talent, determination, belief and respect for the fans to pull it off. Only, preferably, then not cocking it all up by fecking off to a bigger club just when we're starting to look on them as a potential legend

[Saint_clark]

In a selfish kind of way for Saints I was almost hoping the he wouldn´t make their WC squad, think he would benefit from a break now and a proper preseason.

 

I´m not sure playing him and Lallana together is the problem, for me he needs a striker with better movement than Lambert can offer so he can put his throughballs into the game more.

 

I don't see Ramirez playing much for Uruguay. Few sub appearances maybe.

 

if he was at the standard of lallana, we would never be able to afford him

 

Hmm - I reckon we'd have been able to afford Lallana when he was at 23.

 

In answer to the thread, I have no doubt that if Ramirez was given a first team spot in place of Lallana he'd flourish next season. If we're keeping Adam however (fingers crossed) I don't see us accommodating him and it may be worth cashing in.

[GAS]

In a selfish kind of way for Saints I was almost hoping the he wouldn´t make their WC squad, think he would benefit from a break now and a proper preseason.

 

I´m not sure playing him and Lallana together is the problem, for me he needs a striker with better movement than Lambert can offer so he can put his throughballs into the game more.

Or he should adapt and pick out Lambert who makes space for himself all the time. Lallana definitely sees this.

[captainchris]

I think it's time for Ramirez to go - he's not really suited to the Premier league - he just not dynamic enough in possession or when trying to get the ball back

 

Let's hope he has a good World Cup so we can get most of our money back for him

 

We need a right winger and some pace - so for me Scott Sinclair would be a good replacement for Gaston at £2-3 million - he does need some TLC though

 

As for replacing Lallana we should solve two problems in one - and swap Osvaldo with Valencia for some cash and Banega. Valencia are apparently interested in The Great Osvaldo and look like they want to get rid of Banega as he's on loam at Newells Old Boys at the moment

 

And if QPR and the twitcher fail to get promoted I'd replace Osvaldo with Charlie Austin for £6-7 million

 

We still need another good forward though - Lukaku or Piazon on loan from Chelsea would do

 

And I'd also go after someone like Henri Lansbury or Josh McCreacham to give us another attacking option in midfield

 

We also need another left back whatever happens - Ryan Bertrand or that Timothee Kolosomething sounds good to me - and Steven Caulker would add the defender we need as well

At last a sensible post on the subject. Ramirez is nowhere near a replacement AL.....

Weak in possession and we surrender the midfield when he is on the pitch causing big problems for the whole team.

[Batman]

I don't see Ramirez playing much for Uruguay. Few sub appearances maybe.

 

 

 

Hmm - I reckon we'd have been able to afford Lallana when he was at 23.

 

In answer to the thread, I have no doubt that if Ramirez was given a first team spot in place of Lallana he'd flourish next season. If we're keeping Adam however (fingers crossed) I don't see us accommodating him and it may be worth cashing in.

im on about now