Block34 Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 January really wasn't comparable to now and players were not openly talking about potentially leaving the club. Please give me the proven source or quote where a player has openly said they want to leave Saints - thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 I can't believe you think that joining towards the end of a window and not spending pre-season with the team matters. It matters massively. Players need to be brought in early or can take time to adjust, especially when it's a latin player coming to England. I said it would have helped but that his attitude was the main factor in the transfer not working out. Hardly the same as saying it doesn't matter is it? You've completely misquoted me there. A lot of the points made in those January tweets by Adam Blackmore are still relevant now. Just because we didn't sell players immediately, doesn't mean that the uncertainty at board-room level hasn't affected squad morale. Lallana and Morgan have both come out and said they want to be playing CL football in recent weeks - clearly because they don't think it is a realistic possibility at Southampton. I agree that there is no sense in updating fans when nothing has happened. Most people have agreed with that in response to the Professor's posts on the subject. However, some clearly defined and articulated targets for the coming season, and perhaps the next few years, would put a lot of fans and players minds at rest with regard to the future ambitions of the club. That is not hysterical or 'blind panic'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 22 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 May, 2014 I said it would have helped but that his attitude was the main factor in the transfer not working out. Hardly the same as saying it doesn't matter is it? You've completely misquoted me there. A lot of the points made in those January tweets by Adam Blackmore are still relevant now. Just because we didn't sell players immediately, doesn't mean that the uncertainty at board-room level hasn't affected squad morale. Lallana and Morgan have both come out and said they want to be playing CL football in recent weeks - clearly because they don't think it is a realistic possibility at Southampton. I agree that there is no sense in updating fans when nothing has happened. Most people have agreed with that in response to the Professor's posts on the subject. However, some clearly defined and articulated targets for the coming season, and perhaps the next few years, would put a lot of fans and players minds at rest with regard to the future ambitions of the club. That is not hysterical or 'blind panic'. Knowing what we currently know with the uncertainty surrounding the manager, what would you say to the players? Future ambitions for the club were outlined in March I believe. Are they expected to have changed this now? If not, surely just putting the statement that was made then up again would suffice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Please give me the proven source or quote where a player has openly said they want to leave Saints - thx Players talking about potentially leaving the club... Lallana hasn't committed and said he wants to play in the champions league and compete for titles. Morgan has said that Champions League will raise visibility towards him They are not saying that they 100% want to leave Saints, of course they can't do that but you don't need to be a genius to work out what they are alluding to with recent comments. Weston Saint knows Lallana's family and summed up Lallana's situation fairly well on his thread.....Liverpool want him, he wants to go so if they meet saints valuation he will be off. I think some people need to take their head out of the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Why isn't it comparable to now? It was another time when there was going to be a meltdown and nothing happened. I also have not seen any quotes saying that players want to leave either? There were no bids on the table, the press speculation wasn't as intense and so protracted, things simmered down pretty quickly after Poch committed for the rest of the season and of course, the Jan transfer window closed soon after Cortese left. I responded to someone else regarding player quotes but you must not be paying attention to what's been said if you don't think that players are not suggesting that they need to step up a level and they don't feel that's possible with saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Knowing what we currently know with the uncertainty surrounding the manager, what would you say to the players? Future ambitions for the club were outlined in March I believe. Are they expected to have changed this now? If not, surely just putting the statement that was made then up again would suffice? Well maybe the uncertainty could have been avoided if the board had been more forthright about a contract offer being on the table. That would have given Poch less room to manoeuvre in his dealings with the press and placed a bit of added pressure for him to make his mind up. The impasse is driving the speculation and the board should take some responsibility for that. What statement in March are you referring to? Ralph has alluded to 'maximising our potential' and gave a speech at SMS that he was in sports 'to win things' but has repeatedly shied away from defining where he'd like us to finish this coming season. Les Reed has tried to reassure fans more recently about false media speculation and wanting to keep hold of our best players, but again, has said little about what the club are striving to achieve beyond that. Most of the rhetoric coming out of the club is quite guarded and on the defensive - all the talk is of attempting to keep the group together and not about building on what we have achieved this season. That is hardly going to inspire the current group of players is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 22 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Players talking about potentially leaving the club... Lallana hasn't committed and said he wants to play in the champions league and compete for titles. Morgan has said that Champions League will raise visibility towards him They are not saying that they 100% want to leave Saints, of course they can't do that but you don't need to be a genius to work out what they are alluding to with recent comments. Weston Saint knows Lallana's family and summed up Lallana's situation fairly well on his thread.....Liverpool want him, he wants to go so if they meet saints valuation he will be off. I think some people need to take their head out of the sand. To be fair I didn't see that from Weston. If he wants to go, so be it. Ramirez to step up next season then (which to be fair he has the talent to). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 22 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Well maybe the uncertainty could have been avoided if the board had been more forthright about a contract offer being on the table. That would have given Poch less room to manoeuvre in his dealings with the press and placed a bit of added pressure for him to make his mind up. The impasse is driving the speculation and the board should take some responsibility for that. What statement in March are you referring to? Ralph has alluded to 'maximising our potential' and gave a speech at SMS that he was in sports 'to win things' but has repeatedly shied away from defining where he'd like us to finish this coming season. Les Reed has tried to reassure fans more recently about false media speculation and wanting to keep hold of our best players, but again, has said little about what the club are striving to achieve beyond that. Most of the rhetoric coming out of the club is quite guarded and on the defensive - all the talk is of attempting to keep the group together and not about building on what we have achieved this season. That is hardly going to inspire the current group of players is it? I just don't think the club are in the position to make statements to the players when they don't know what's going to happen. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 I just don't think the club are in the position to make statements to the players when they don't know what's going to happen. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. Why wouldn't they know what is going happen? They most certainly should be speaking to players about the ambition and plans moving forward, long before the fans or anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 22 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 May, 2014 Why wouldn't they know what is going happen? They most certainly should be speaking to players about the ambition and plans moving forward, long before the fans or anyone else. Because the players want to play for Pochettino and I believe this is the key decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 The forum would benefit from a few more positive posts or threads. Does anyone have any good news to report? I do. Lanzarote ironman completed at the weekend and now getting smashed on cheap Jager. All part of the recovery. Completely agree with the OP. Control the controllables, as someone once said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 (edited) Because the players want to play for Pochettino and I believe this is the key decision. They just want to play for a manager as good as Pochettino under a regime where they think they will get both high wages and win stuff. If the club signed Frank de Boer tomorrow and announced a£50m transfer war chest it would be be "Pochettino who?" in days. Edited 22 May, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 3 players in the England world cup squad Yeah too right!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 It was reported recently that Roberto Martinez has let it be known that the Everton's young star, Ross Berkley, is not for sale at any price. He couldn't have made such a statement without knowing that the club's board were behind him. It sounds as if Everton have the quality of their team on the pitch as a higher priority over cashing in on their young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 22 May, 2014 Share Posted 22 May, 2014 It was reported recently that Roberto Martinez has let it be known that the Everton's young star, Ross Berkley, is not for sale at any price. He couldn't have made such a statement without knowing that the club's board were behind him. It sounds as if Everton have the quality of their team on the pitch as a higher priority over cashing in on their young talent. Yes he could have, and he quite possibly did. How many times have managers said exactly that about their star players, only to be left looking foolish when said star players are sold? Plenty. Martinez wants to put off buyers, which is fair enough, but what do you think will happen if Everton receive a bid of £50M for Barkley, and he wants to go to the team making that bid? David Moyes probably said something mightily similar about Wayne Rooney ten years or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 (edited) Yes he could have, and he quite possibly did. How many times have managers said exactly that about their star players, only to be left looking foolish when said star players are sold? Plenty. Martinez wants to put off buyers, which is fair enough, but what do you think will happen if Everton receive a bid of £50M for Barkley, and he wants to go to the team making that bid? David Moyes probably said something mightily similar about Wayne Rooney ten years or so ago. Interesting what people will say to try to bolster a failed argument, without any thought to evidence or facts. The statement by Roberto Martinez did not say that he was speaking just as a manager, instead he said that "The Club" would not consider any offer, even if it were of Gareth Bale proportions. So the claims by Fowllyd are imaginary and unfounded. As for the Rooney transfer in 2004, he was 18 at the time and on a short-term contract that left him open to bids which resulted in clubs other than Man U effectively conducting an auction for him. Had Everton not agreed to sell they could have lost him for no fee at all when his contract ended, whereas Berkley, like Lallana and Shaw, is protected by a long-term contract making it simple for the club to refuse any bid (if they want to). The Martinez statement will mean that if any club makes a bid it will be harder for the bidding club to claim that a refusal is just a negotiating position since Everton's position has already been stated in public. As for a manager looking foolish, if a club's chairman does that he would risk losing his manager as well as his player. Everton seem to have a good track record as they resisted the Man U attempt to buy Baines last year but allowed the ineffective Fellaini to leave. Edited 23 May, 2014 by Professor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Interesting what people will say to try to bolster a failed argument, without any thought to evidence or facts. The statement by Roberto Martinez did not say that he was speaking just as a manager, instead he said that "The Club" would not consider any offer, even if it were of Gareth Bale proportions. So the claims by Fowllyd are imaginary and unfounded. As for the Rooney transfer in 2004, he was 18 at the time and on a short-term contract that left him open to bids which resulted in clubs other than Man U effectively conducting an auction for him. Had Everton not agreed to sell they could have lost him for no fee at all when his contract ended, whereas Berkley, like Lallana and Shaw, is protected by a long-term contract making it simple for the club to refuse any bid (if they want to). The Martinez statement will mean that if any club makes a bid it will be harder for the bidding club to claim that a refusal is just a negotiating position since Everton's position has already been stated in public. As for a manager looking foolish, if a club's chairman does that he would risk losing his manager as well as his player. Why would any club make a bid if he's not for sale? Think You need to check your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 The forum would benefit from a few more positive posts or threads. Does anyone have any good news to report? There is no bad news yet! and that actually is good news so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 There is no bad news yet! and that actually is good news so far! Right. Pochettino has had a contract offer for 2 weeks with no conclusion. How "no news is good news" in this case, I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 What I think is fantastic is the new board are so untroubled by the media speculation they've have found it totally unnessasary to comment further since the statement. I like the quiet confidence of the new board. Unlike the hysterical tarts on here demanding daily updates and denials of every story ever written. Weren't all these journalist bullsh*ters trying to destabilise us a few months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Right. Pochettino has had a contract offer for 2 weeks with no conclusion. How "no news is good news" in this case, I'll never know. I was under the impression that contracts were to be looked at / negotiated after the end of the season, but evidently you're ITK...what were the terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Right. Pochettino has had a contract offer for 2 weeks with no conclusion. How "no news is good news" in this case, I'll never know. What day was that offer made? Has he met with the board since then to discuss any aspect of it? Have any terms been amended, or is that work in progress? Was he given a deadline to accept, which has now passed? Are all manager contracts usually signed in 24 hours? Have the club and Mopo agreed a policy of no comment until they are both happy? Please tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 What I think is fantastic is the new board are so untroubled by the media speculation they've have found it totally unnessasary to comment further since the statement. I like the quiet confidence of the new board. Unlike the hysterical tarts on here demanding daily updates and denials of every story ever written. Weren't all these journalist bullsh*ters trying to destabilise us a few months ago? How are season ticket sales going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 How are season ticket sales going? What's your point? The season only finished two weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 So, been away for a week and as far as I can tell the square root of eff all has happened.(apart from some world class hand wringing on here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 What's your point? The season only finished two weeks ago. Thought it would be rather obvious what the point was. You say people are being "hysterical tarts" - that may be so. But if your customers are concerned about what product they are going to be offered, they just might not buy it. As you say the season finished 2 weeks ago, although season ticket renewals have been open for longer. The renewal rate, which I do not know, is a way of gauging how the customers are feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Thought it would be rather obvious what the point was. You say people are being "hysterical tarts" - that may be so. But if your customers are concerned about what product they are going to be offered, they just might not buy it. As you say the season finished 2 weeks ago, although season ticket renewals have been open for longer. The renewal rate, which I do not know, is a way of gauging how the customers are feeling. 'The product' is Southampton FC who have just had their best finish since 2003 is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 That's fine. You buy the product in an unquestioning manner (like I have). But if others want to question what they are buying, I hardly think it fair to call them "hysterical tarts". And before parting with £££s or ££££s maybe they are right to question the future rather than look at the past, don't you think, or should they just buy the product unquestioning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 (edited) if others want to question what they are buying, I hardly think it fair to call them "hysterical tarts". And before parting with £££s or ££££s maybe they are right to question the future rather than look at the past, don't you think, or should they just buy the product unquestioning? But its the same as in every other year. In any event the deadline for buying and selling players is well after the deadline for renewing season tickets - so events now are a poor guide to what happens next season. Edited 23 May, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Right. Pochettino has had a contract offer for 2 weeks with no conclusion. How "no news is good news" in this case, I'll never know. Or lets look at it glass half full Alps he hasn't gone to Spurs yet has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 But its the same as in every other year. In any event the deadline for buying and selling players is well after the deadline for renewing season tickets - so events now are a poor guide to what happens next season. To a certain extent, but I can't remember when the press (yes - I know they talk balls most of the time) have said the manager and up to 12 of the squad is off during the closed season or rather as soon as the season has ended if not before. A player or two fine, but not the whole squad and manager and his coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 That's fine. You buy the product in an unquestioning manner (like I have). But if others want to question what they are buying, I hardly think it fair to call them "hysterical tarts". And before parting with £££s or ££££s maybe they are right to question the future rather than look at the past, don't you think, or should they just buy the product unquestioning? You don't think the hysterical reaction on here and the slamming of the new board by some hasn't been well over the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 You don't think the hysterical reaction on here and the slamming of the new board by some hasn't been well over the top? No I don't. You may not agree with it, I might not agree with it, I might not agree with you. Boils down to customer is king. I think that the club could quite easily have come out with some platitudes (whether they be hollow or not) to keep their customers anxieties under control. And let's face it, lots of people like being doom and gloom merchants. Keeps the closed season going and when/if things turn out better than the pessimism surrounding things at present, then they will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 I can't remember when the press (yes - I know they talk balls most of the time) have said the manager and up to 12 of the squad is off during the closed season or rather as soon as the season has ended if not before. A player or two fine, but not the whole squad and manager and his coaches. Its a heady media brew - change in leadership, players to world cup, supposed turmoil behind scenes, successful manager lured away, ex chairman putting in from sidelines Krueger has said he wont promise what he cant be sure of delivering. He cant yet be sure that the manager wont demand to leave if he gets a better off from a bigger club. Players leaving and arriving is largely down to the manager. What exactly do you expect Krueger to say that has certainty rather than guff calming fans nerves for a few weeks until stuff happens anyway and everyone then slates him for lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 One man's sincere statement of intent is another's meaningless platitude. Even if the board issued a daily bulletin the usual suspects here will dismiss what they say, more inclined to believe the drivel from the clueless hacks than those running the club. So continues the endless cycle of pointless bickering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 23 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Its a heady media brew - change in leadership, players to world cup, supposed turmoil behind scenes, successful manager lured away, ex chairman putting in from sidelines Krueger has said he wont promise what he cant be sure of delivering. He cant yet be sure that the manager wont demand to leave if he gets a better off from a bigger club. Players leaving and arriving is largely down to the manager. What exactly do you expect Krueger to say that has certainty rather than guff calming fans nerves for a few weeks until stuff happens anyway and everyone then slates him for lying? Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 As Kreuger is a supposed motivator, I am sure that his man management skills could come up with some non-committal guff that would serve as a platitude which would not come back to bite him. Can't see what harm it would be in showing his face. Ultimately I don't really care as I have bought my ticket for next year, so he has my custom, and short of buying the club, there's nothing I can do to influence what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 As Kreuger is a supposed motivator, I am sure that his man management skills could come up with some non-committal guff that would serve as a platitude which would not come back to bite him. Can't see what harm it would be in showing his face. Ultimately I don't really care as I have bought my ticket for next year, so he has my custom, and short of buying the club, there's nothing I can do to influence what happens. And there in lies the nub of the problem, there's feck all we, as supporters, can do so, personally, I don't see any point in getting so wound up by it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 ...and look why people are being hysterical. It's because they love the club and it's just concern and frustration that what they want for the club isn't coming to fruition. I think that there are a lot of people whose hearts can't understand why anyone wouldn't want to be at Saints and don't love the club like they do. Sure their heads know full well that there are bigger clubs who are more attractive a proposition, but football can be a passionate thing so people go with the heart too much. It's not life or death, so I say let people be hysterical. Just wait till MP signs his extension and you will see hysteria change to orgasming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 (edited) As Kreuger is a supposed motivator, I am sure that his man management skills could come up with some non-committal guff that would serve as a platitude which would not come back to bite him. Can't see what harm it would be in showing his face. Ultimately I don't really care as I have bought my ticket for next year, so he has my custom, and short of buying the club, there's nothing I can do to influence what happens. They've already issued a statement which was very clear and concise. It comes down to if you have faith in the owners or if you believe everything you read. The quiet confidence and steely determination say far more than a million words could. Edited 23 May, 2014 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Its a heady media brew - change in leadership, players to world cup, supposed turmoil behind scenes, successful manager lured away, ex chairman putting in from sidelines Krueger has said he wont promise what he cant be sure of delivering. He cant yet be sure that the manager wont demand to leave if he gets a better off from a bigger club. Players leaving and arriving is largely down to the manager. What exactly do you expect Krueger to say that has certainty rather than guff calming fans nerves for a few weeks until stuff happens anyway and everyone then slates him for lying? Amen to this. Nothing, but nothing, will stop the lunatics going apes hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Interesting what people will say to try to bolster a failed argument, without any thought to evidence or facts. The statement by Roberto Martinez did not say that he was speaking just as a manager, instead he said that "The Club" would not consider any offer, even if it were of Gareth Bale proportions. So the claims by Fowllyd are imaginary and unfounded. As for the Rooney transfer in 2004, he was 18 at the time and on a short-term contract that left him open to bids which resulted in clubs other than Man U effectively conducting an auction for him. Had Everton not agreed to sell they could have lost him for no fee at all when his contract ended, whereas Berkley, like Lallana and Shaw, is protected by a long-term contract making it simple for the club to refuse any bid (if they want to). The Martinez statement will mean that if any club makes a bid it will be harder for the bidding club to claim that a refusal is just a negotiating position since Everton's position has already been stated in public. As for a manager looking foolish, if a club's chairman does that he would risk losing his manager as well as his player. Everton seem to have a good track record as they resisted the Man U attempt to buy Baines last year but allowed the ineffective Fellaini to leave. Where exactly did I make any claims? I simply said that there has been many a time that a manager has claimed that a particular player is not for sale at any price, only for said player to be sold shortly afterwards. I am correct in that statement; we've all seen it happen. And so what if Martinez used the words 'the club' - they are words and nothing more. If another club comes in with a very large offer for Barkley, and Barkley wishes to go to that club, he will be sold. It may happen, it may not - but tough-sounding words from Martinez will make no difference either way. As to bidding clubs making claims about statements being merely negotiating positions, it could just as easily be argued that 'not for sale at any price' or 'even a bid of Bale proportions won't get him' are nothing more than negotiating positions. Oh, and what exactly is the 'failed argument' that I am trying to bolster? For someone who calls himself Professor and tries to convey an air of gravitas, you don't half post some tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 No I don't. You may not agree with it, I might not agree with it, I might not agree with you. Boils down to customer is king. I think that the club could quite easily have come out with some platitudes (whether they be hollow or not) to keep their customers anxieties under control. And let's face it, lots of people like being doom and gloom merchants. Keeps the closed season going and when/if things turn out better than the pessimism surrounding things at present, then they will be happy. The club issued a statement, what two weeks ago. They quite clearly said where we are. They said they are not planning to sell anyone. They of course cant say no one will ever leave but they dont plan to sell anyone and whatever happens will be in the best interests of the club. They couldn't have been clearer. Yet still we get the bleating hysteria that they dont know what they're doing, lack ambition etc. Quite why people expect them to respond to every bit of specualtion is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 23 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 23 May, 2014 They've already issued a statement which was very clear and concise. It comes down to if you have faith in the owners or if you believe everything you read. The quiet confidence and steely determination say far more than a million words could. He is reacting EXACTLY the same way Cortese used to. We don't comment on rumour and conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 How things change in the rumour departments of the media. All of a sudden, the Shaw is 99.99% a Man United player story, suddenly begins to change to Shaw wants to get the World Cup out of the way without any distractions, so that is apparently now on hold. Noises start to emanate from Manchester that perhaps they might keep Evra another season, which would put his nose out of joint playing second fiddle to an 18 year old kid, or Shaw's propects of bench-warming not pleasing him if Evra plays. Lallana to Liverpool was another dead cert, yet Liverpool appear to shy away from the sum we want for him, so the fans of several other clubs are getting a bit nervous because some of their players are now in the frame instead. Who knows, we might even keep our manager, now that De Boer is starting to creep into the frame as potentially the better choice for the Spuds. As the hysteria quietens down with the first division of transfer candidates, so the media move on to our second division of Schneiderlin, Lovren and now Fonte. One has to hope that they in turn will require quite inflated prices to persuade us to part with them too, so the vultures begin to identify other potential pickings elsewhere too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 To be fair I didn't see that from Weston. If he wants to go, so be it. Ramirez to step up next season then (which to be fair he has the talent to). Deary me. Someone still sees Gashy as White Knight par excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Deary me. Someone still sees Gashy as White Knight par excellence Who knows what might be with an injury free prolonged run in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 The forum would benefit from a few more positive posts or threads. Does anyone have any good news to report? Does Omar Rowe signing a new one-year extension count? That's happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 Does Omar Rowe signing a new one-year extension count? That's happened! I've only seen it on Twitter therefore it cannot possibly be true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 23 May, 2014 Share Posted 23 May, 2014 I've only seen it on Twitter therefore it cannot possibly be true... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/23052014-omar-rowe-signs-one-year-contract-extension-1571937.aspx Don't look at the picture though, Les Reed is with him and not Pochettino! Must be busy signing for Spuds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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