Come on Mr Chairman, statement overdue

[Professor]

One thing we have learned over the last week is that the media, both broadcast and print, see Southampton as a selling club, even as a club that needs to sell to survive. Some people might say that this impression is a hangover from the administration period when the club sold Walcott and Bale but the sale of Oxlade-Chamberlain in 2011 during the Cortese period could be taken by the media as evidence that not much has changed. Fans may know that it was largely Mark Chamberlain who influenced his son, but the impression remains. If the media think Southampton are a selling club its hardly surprising that the people running Tottenham, Man Utd and Liverpool think the same.

What the Saints' fans are entitled to know, since we fund the club through our support, is whether this is true. If it is true, all the Chairman can do is to try to get the best price for the players we produce which may best be done by appearing reluctant to sell. On the other hand if we really are not a selling club any more, then a strong statement is needed to dispel the impression that seems to be widely held both outside and perhaps even inside the club. Such statements were being reported a few weeks ago when it was said that no player would leave who the manager did not want to leave. But the present silence does nothing to back that up.

 

If the club intends to hold people to their contracts its quite simple to say so. If it isn't sure, then the silence is deafening, "come and take what you want, but do it quietly...."

[Saint_clark]

His last statement was less than a week ago for god sake. I swear some people think the club should be giving daily updates.

[hypochondriac]

His last statement was less than a week ago for god sake. I swear some people think the club should be giving daily updates.

 

Yep. I don't want anything until there is something new to say.

[Saint Garrett]

They've said enough - time to earn their money, and convince our players and manager to stay - im sure they'll tell us when there is something to say.

 

What are you expecting? A daily update telling you every little detail about whats been offered to who at what time? This isnt Big Brother ffs.

[Webby]

I don't see what the problem is. Yes, I'd love to 'know' something but I don't feel that the club owe me a statement to tell me what's going on.

 

It's this bloody instant gratification/social media generation that feels that they should know everything that's going on on the inside of whatever situation. Well, sorry, until something actually happens, they owe us nothing. If we all ignored our Twitter feeds for a couple of weeks and just got on with our lives we wouldn't be so stressed about it. I'm sure we'll be the first to know when there's something to know. Apparently that's not good enough for some people.

 

Who knew anything about the Keegan deal until it was done? Those were the days.

[Professor]

Yep. I don't want anything until there is something new to say.

 

Since it has been reported that there was a Board meeting on Wednesday night to discuss the bids for the manager and the two players, there is something new, but it's been kept private so far. A running commentary wouldn't be appropriate if we are agreeing to deals, but if we are not then a statement would be a way of underlining that position. You must decide for yourself what the silence means, or perhaps you might think it means nothing. I happen to disagree and the longer it goes on the more it would seem likely that deals are being discussed, not rejected.

[Dan Johnson]

If the club intends to hold people to their contracts its quite simple to say so. If it isn't sure, then the silence is deafening, "come and take what you want, but do it quietly...."

 

Personally I think it's a little more complex than that, which is why very few clubs make these kind of statements.

 

If the club demands a player honour his contract, it's quiet conceivable that a player could react badly to that demand and subsequently his effort\performance & of course value would fall as a result.

 

No club (business) wants an asset to depreciate so if a player really does want out, i think overall it's in the best interest of both the club & the player to let them move on, providing the club adequately compensated.

 

Of course there's an arguement that a player signed a 5 year deal so he shouldnt have an issue if the club demands he see that out.

 

However, contracts work both ways, long term contracts are as much about the club protecting their assest as they are security for a player. We certainly wouldnt want to be in the posistion of losing someone like Lallana for free.

[hypochondriac]

Since it has been reported that there was a Board meeting on Wednesday night to discuss the bids for the manager and the two players, there is something new, but it's been kept private so far. A running commentary wouldn't be appropriate if we are agreeing to deals, but if we are not then a statement would be a way of underlining that position. You must decide for yourself what the silence means, or perhaps you might think it means nothing. I happen to disagree and the longer it goes on the more it would seem likely that deals are being discussed, not rejected.

 

It doesn't really matter what they say, they will do what they want regardless. It's just you whining like a baby because they aren't updating you all the time. I'd rather get an update when something actually happens thanks rather than some pointless statement saying nothing again. They said their piece regarding press speculation last week and so I'll choose to believe that until evidence surfaces that says otherwise.

[St Chalet]

Given his previous statements I'd prefer him to say nothing.

[Saint Charlie]

Given his previous statements I'd prefer him to say nothing.

 

This. A million times. Reed should do the speaking on football matters.

[ThorpG]

One thing we have learned over the last week is that the media, both broadcast and print, see Southampton as a selling club, even as a club that needs to sell to survive. Some people might say that this impression is a hangover from the administration period when the club sold Walcott and Bale but the sale of Oxlade-Chamberlain in 2011 during the Cortese period could be taken by the media as evidence that not much has changed. Fans may know that it was largely Mark Chamberlain who influenced his son, but the impression remains. If the media think Southampton are a selling club its hardly surprising that the people running Tottenham, Man Utd and Liverpool think the same.

What the Saints' fans are entitled to know, since we fund the club through our support, is whether this is true. If it is true, all the Chairman can do is to try to get the best price for the players we produce which may best be done by appearing reluctant to sell. On the other hand if we really are not a selling club any more, then a strong statement is needed to dispel the impression that seems to be widely held both outside and perhaps even inside the club. Such statements were being reported a few weeks ago when it was said that no player would leave who the manager did not want to leave. But the present silence does nothing to back that up.

 

If the club intends to hold people to their contracts its quite simple to say so. If it isn't sure, then the silence is deafening, "come and take what you want, but do it quietly...."

 

Do the fans 'fund the club'? Recent reports on TV rights income suggest gate money is not close to being the main income stream now.

 

I think the Board should speak when there is news to announce - 'nothing is happening' type statements do nothing other than create speculation on the exact nuance of each word, can be counter productive.

[Professor]

It doesn't really matter what they say, they will do what they want regardless. It's just you whining like a baby because they aren't updating you all the time. I'd rather get an update when something actually happens thanks rather than some pointless statement saying nothing again. They said their piece regarding press speculation last week and so I'll choose to believe that until evidence surfaces that says otherwise.

 

Shame you feel it necessary to include insults in a discussion with a fellow Saints fan, but that's your problem not mine. I'd just point out that you are wrong in saying I've asked for a regular update, only that if the club policy on player sales has not changed, then a statement would make that clear. The absence of such a statement - (in words of one syllable - NOT MORE THAN ONE) can be taken by clubs interested in our players as an indication of a willingness to sell. The people who would be most influenced by a statement from the Chairman would be the Media and the management of other clubs, but the absence of a statement may also influence them. This isn't just about satisfying the curiosity of fans but is about whether a step could be taken to reduce demand for our manager and/or players - if that is what the board want to do.

[Bewildered]

[hypochondriac]

Shame you feel it necessary to include insults in a discussion with a fellow Saints fan, but that's your problem not mine. I'd just point out that you are wrong in saying I've asked for a regular update, only that if the club policy on player sales has not changed, then a statement would make that clear. The absence of such a statement - (in words of one syllable - NOT MORE THAN ONE) can be taken by clubs interested in our players as an indication of a willingness to sell. The people who would be most influenced by a statement from the Chairman would be the Media and the management of other clubs, but the absence of a statement may also influence them. This isn't just about satisfying the curiosity of fans but is about whether a step could be taken to reduce demand for our manager and/or players - if that is what the board want to do.

 

if you considered whining like a baby an insult. That's exactly what it sounds like on here! We have absolutely no idea if anything has changed as yet and so why is a "statement overdue" as you put it? Does that mean that every week they have to release something to say that their stance has not changed? I would prefer the club not to be influenced by press speculation. Our players and manager are in demand and will be regardless of what the club say. If they want to go and they can't get assurances for the future then they will go and no amount of flowery statements will influence that decision. I want actions please and not any statements because I've heard it all before.

[pap]

Speaking purely about my own professional practice, I almost never bother sending anything unless announcing that something has been completed. There's no point, and it opens the door for trouble and hysteria.

 

If there's nowt conclusive to report, why make a statement?

[Professor]

Do the fans 'fund the club'? Recent reports on TV rights income suggest gate money is not close to being the main income stream now.

 

I think the Board should speak when there is news to announce - 'nothing is happening' type statements do nothing other than create speculation on the exact nuance of each word, can be counter productive.

 

Yes, fans do fund the club through TV income as well as by attending games in person. Liverpool are judged to have more TV fans than Saints, hence they were screened 28 times to Saint's 10 and received several million more in TV fees than we did.

If you read what I said, I'm not suggesting a 'nothing is happening' statement. That would be no different to the silence we currently have, which is creating on-going speculation. The statement I'm saying is overdue is one rejecting the bids and obviously that can only be issued if the bids are being rejected. The longer we go without that being said, the more people will speculate that the club is prepared to sell.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

I can't remember anytime over the past 5 years we heard so much from the club?

 

It's an uncertain time right now, with interest in our players.

 

Whatever the club say, people still get het up. Just get a grip FFS.

[View From The Top]

Some people need to seriously man the f**k up and quit all the whinging about not being told every 30mins what's happening at the club.

[Dellman]

It's wrong to say 'we the fans' finance the club. We don't. But £83million for ending 8th mostly TV money puts the owners in a strong position, I can't believe we need to sell. By the way, most clubs in the Premiership have the same problem holding their players no one knows how its going to turn out for anyone yet, so what's to announce?

[Professor]

if you considered whining like a baby an insult. That's exactly what it sounds like on here! We have absolutely no idea if anything has changed as yet and so why is a "statement overdue" as you put it? Does that mean that every week they have to release something to say that their stance has not changed? I would prefer the club not to be influenced by press speculation. Our players and manager are in demand and will be regardless of what the club say. If they want to go and they can't get assurances for the future then they will go and no amount of flowery statements will influence that decision. I want actions please and not any statements because I've heard it all before.

 

Sorry Mr Hypo but what you've written here is absolute rubbish and contradictory. I've said in Janet and John language that I'm not expecting weekly updates or a running commentary. If you, and the club, don't want to be influenced by press speculation the best way to counter it is to tell them if they are wrong, as long as they are wrong. Of course, if they are right, they can't be told that! If a decision has been made to reject the approaches, that would be a conclusion to be reported. If no such decision has been made, expect to hear nothing until negotiations are completed. Those who are content not to hear that the offers have been turned down, presumably don't mind them being accepted.

Edited 16 May, 2014 by Professor

[croydonsaint]

One thing we have learned over the last week is that the media, both broadcast and print, see Southampton as a selling club, even as a club that needs to sell to survive. Some people might say that this impression is a hangover from the administration period when the club sold Walcott and Bale but the sale of Oxlade-Chamberlain in 2011 during the Cortese period could be taken by the media as evidence that not much has changed. Fans may know that it was largely Mark Chamberlain who influenced his son, but the impression remains. If the media think Southampton are a selling club its hardly surprising that the people running Tottenham, Man Utd and Liverpool think the same.

What the Saints' fans are entitled to know, since we fund the club through our support, is whether this is true. If it is true, all the Chairman can do is to try to get the best price for the players we produce which may best be done by appearing reluctant to sell. On the other hand if we really are not a selling club any more, then a strong statement is needed to dispel the impression that seems to be widely held both outside and perhaps even inside the club. Such statements were being reported a few weeks ago when it was said that no player would leave who the manager did not want to leave. But the present silence does nothing to back that up.

 

If the club intends to hold people to their contracts its quite simple to say so. If it isn't sure, then the silence is deafening, "come and take what you want, but do it quietly...."

 

I think we all share your frustration but I do not agree that we are owed a statement.

There is clearly a lot going on and until these things are resolved they should not be made public. Definitely frustrating but unfortunately we are all going to have to be patient.

If Pocchetino is undecided at this moment or awaiting out come of player sales or what ever, not sure in the point of announcing that.

I can see the head lines. "Saints manager may stay but if something else comes along he may not". "We will sell our best players but only at the right price",

" We have offered a great new contract to manager but hes not quite sure if he wants to commit to us".............................etc. etc.

[Professor]

I think we all share your frustration but I do not agree that we are owed a statement.

There is clearly a lot going on and until these things are resolved they should not be made public. Definitely frustrating but unfortunately we are all going to have to be patient.

If Pocchetino is undecided at this moment or awaiting out come of player sales or what ever, not sure in the point of announcing that.

I can see the head lines. "Saints manager may stay but if something else comes along he may not". "We will sell our best players but only at the right price",

" We have offered a great new contract to manager but hes not quite sure if he wants to commit to us".............................etc. etc.

Sorry croydonsaint, but I'm not frustrated. I simply feel that if the fans give the impression that losing our best assets doesn't matter, the Board and KL will have one less reason to resist. Telling the world that we will not agree to clubs taking our manager and our players would be a 'statement' of intent. Not doing that would tell its own story, so if in fact, the Board do not want to lose these people, they should say so. If they don't mind them going and only want as much money as possible, they will have to stay silent until the deals are done. As the weekend passes, if nothing is heard, people will draw their own conclusions, including people who will be writing in the Sunday papers. It's not frustration, but the wrong outcome could lose us some fans and some status, which would be sad. Even sadder would be getting caught up amongst the teams trying to avoid relegation next season.

[Block34]

Why on earth would Saints want to tell other clubs their business, their plans, the size of the transfer budget etc?

 

On this level we are owed nothing!

[KelvinsRightGlove]

Sorry croydonsaint, but I'm not frustrated. I simply feel that if the fans give the impression that losing our best assets doesn't matter, the Board and KL will have one less reason to resist. Telling the world that we will not agree to clubs taking our manager and our players would be a 'statement' of intent. Not doing that would tell its own story, so if in fact, the Board do not want to lose these people, they should say so. If they don't mind them going and only want as much money as possible, they will have to stay silent until the deals are done. As the weekend passes, if nothing is heard, people will draw their own conclusions, including people who will be writing in the Sunday papers. It's not frustration, but the wrong outcome could lose us some fans and some status, which would be sad. Even sadder would be getting caught up amongst the teams trying to avoid relegation next season.

 

We've done this repeatedly over the last few months. RK several times and Reed recently too.

 

Them making statements is not going to stop clubs being interested or making bids.

 

I also suspect you are overestimating the fans influence. If the board decide to sell, they will sell. I doubt many fans want to see Luke or Adam or any of our key players leave, but there is little we can do and the board really aren't going to be swayed by our reactions, or supposed lack of reaction either way.

[hypochondriac]

Sorry croydonsaint, but I'm not frustrated. I simply feel that if the fans give the impression that losing our best assets doesn't matter, the Board and KL will have one less reason to resist. Telling the world that we will not agree to clubs taking our manager and our players would be a 'statement' of intent. Not doing that would tell its own story, so if in fact, the Board do not want to lose these people, they should say so. If they don't mind them going and only want as much money as possible, they will have to stay silent until the deals are done. As the weekend passes, if nothing is heard, people will draw their own conclusions, including people who will be writing in the Sunday papers. It's not frustration, but the wrong outcome could lose us some fans and some status, which would be sad. Even sadder would be getting caught up amongst the teams trying to avoid relegation next season.

 

Oh noes! People in the Sunday papers will be drawing their own conclusions!!! Get a grip.

[NickG]

One thing we have learned over the last week is that the media, both broadcast and print, see Southampton as a selling club, even as a club that needs to sell to survive. Some people might say that this impression is a hangover from the administration period when the club sold Walcott and Bale but the sale of Oxlade-Chamberlain in 2011 during the Cortese period could be taken by the media as evidence that not much has changed. Fans may know that it was largely Mark Chamberlain who influenced his son, but the impression remains. If the media think Southampton are a selling club its hardly surprising that the people running Tottenham, Man Utd and Liverpool think the same.

What the Saints' fans are entitled to know, since we fund the club through our support, is whether this is true. If it is true, all the Chairman can do is to try to get the best price for the players we produce which may best be done by appearing reluctant to sell. On the other hand if we really are not a selling club any more, then a strong statement is needed to dispel the impression that seems to be widely held both outside and perhaps even inside the club. Such statements were being reported a few weeks ago when it was said that no player would leave who the manager did not want to leave. But the present silence does nothing to back that up.

 

If the club intends to hold people to their contracts its quite simple to say so. If it isn't sure, then the silence is deafening, "come and take what you want, but do it quietly...."

 

This is the club's last statement.

 

 

 

 

 

"No club has been given permission to talk to any of our players and that will remain so.

 

As far as the policy in concerned we have had a great season, we want to build on that season, we want to improve the squad going forward, we want to retain the players we’ve got. They are all contracted, they all have existing contracts and we intend to honour those contracts.

 

Any enquiries we get will probably be met with a ‘no, not for sale.’ Our intention is to keep this very good team together and build on it by bringing in players to improve upon it.

 

Every transfer window, particularly the summer, is a difficult one because everybody is out there trying to attract players.

 

We have our targets, we want to improve the squad, these are things we are discussing on a daily basis and we intend to produce a squad that is capable of not just maintaining the position we are in at the moment but improving next season.

 

It’s a positive message we want to get out there.

 

Our fans deserve to understand there is not going to be a fire sale here and we have repeatedly said that.

 

We have had no offers for players, deals are not about to be concluded for any of our players, and we want to keep all of our best players here at the club and build on that for the future."

 

And one before..."The most important point is that we are in a position where we do not need to sell any player Mauricio [Pochettino] wants to keep," Hofstetter added.

"We have a very strong squad and we are still in a situation where we are free enough to act quickly if quick action is asked from us."

 

And on Sunday...

 

Less than week ago, 8 mins...

http://audioboo.fm/boos/2152611-saintsfc-chairman-ralph-krueger-talks-to-bigadamsport-after-final-game-of-the-season

[Beckenham Saint]

No statement necessary. What's he going to come out and say? "There is nothing to report but that's not stopping the reporters!"

 

I don't understand the need to know everything that goes on. We know very little and talk so much, we don't really know anything about the running of the club and we never knew anything when NC was in charge. I'm sure when there is something to announce they will tell us. It's not like we'll get to Christmas and be told "by the way, we flogged half the team on the cheap." RK told us a week ago that no offers were made, why is that not enough for some people? And with 30 days until the World Cup I think that the players will be focusing on getting ready for that. There is plenty of time to decide where everyone will be after the biggest tournament of their lives.

 

The papers need to write stories to sell issues, and don't be surprised if they make things up because it sells. RK has a football club to run, and doesn't need to peddle stories like those papers.

[ecuk268]

When the price is right, all clubs are "selling" clubs.

 

Spurs sold their best player to Real Madrid. Arsenal couldn't keep hold of Van Persie, Man Utd lost Ronaldo.

 

All this hand-wringing won't change anything. When anything happens, we'll be told.

 

The media see all the teams outside the top 5 or 6 as prey to the "big" clubs and, to a large extent, that's true, so it's easy journalism for them to focus on our young talent.

 

If it happens we'll still have a team next season and, hopefully, some cash to spend.

 

Life goes on...

[alpine_saint]

Yep. I don't want anything until there is something new to say.

 

I agree. But isnt that the problem ?

 

The silence infers nothing is happening.

 

nothing to secure the services of our manager long term

nothing to protect our squad from predators, let alone strengthen it.

[CB Saint]

Whatever he says won't make a blind bit of difference to the intentions of the other clubs. If he says that no one is for sale, the other clubs will just chuckle to themselves, say everything has a price and carry on regardless.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

I agree. But isnt that the problem ?

 

The silence infers nothing is happening.

 

nothing to secure the services of our manager long term

nothing to protect our squad from predators, let alone strengthen it.

 

No, no it doesn't.

 

Same as everything else. Just because the club doesn't tell us every minute detail of every step they take, be that transfers, contracts, kits, sponsors, redevelopment (training ground etc), it does not mean they are not doing anything.

 

If anything that would simply slow them down more.

 

Get stuff done, tell me about it afters, if I need to know. Until then, they should shut up and get on with their jobs.

[Wopper]

Headless chicken they ain't got a clue what to do or say.

[shurlock]

[dronskisaint]

To quote from one of my favourite source's war diaries

 

'Suddenly nothing happened all the time'

 

I am happy to hear something when there is something to say but I don't need a Centurion-like 'All's well' when there's nothing to say. What's to be gained to say or hear it?

 

When there's news we'll hear it - fark the media..it's their job to make noise about nothing to fill pages, hours of radio, television etc. I much prefer to deal in tangible things!

[Whitey Grandad]

No, no it doesn't.

 

Same as everything else. Just because the club doesn't tell us every minute detail of every step they take, be that transfers, contracts, kits, sponsors, redevelopment (training ground etc), it does not mean they are not doing anything.

 

If anything that would simply slow them down more.

 

Get stuff done, tell me about it afters, if I need to know. Until then, they should shut up and get on with their jobs.

 

This.

 

The only discussions that need to take place are behind closed doors and involve the manager and perhaps the players. They certainly can't be expected to negotiate in public.

[Viking Warrior]

I hear Jack Buer is not in London but is doing sueveillence on SMS and Board members on behalf of SWF

 

This is a real live time surveillance, Chloe is also helping Jack in establishing what is going on at the club in order they can confirm or totally refute the constant rumours and counter rumours,

 

Chloe has now been embedded with the catering department of the club and no longer has scary eye make up

[aintforever]

I agree. But isnt that the problem ?

 

The silence infers nothing is happening.

 

nothing to secure the services of our manager long term

nothing to protect our squad from predators, let alone strengthen it.

 

Do you really believe that nothing is happening just because they are not making public announcements about stuff?

 

I am just about to take a dump BTW.

[Wes Tender]

It would be lovely to believe the statements the club issued recently at face value and that it all came to pass; that we not only kept our manager, but also all of the players who have been the subject of this mass hysteria drummed up by the media.

 

I will laugh like a drain, seeing the media with egg all over their faces. Like most who have expessed the opinion that they are happy that the club has on more than one occasion expressed their desire to keep those players and our manager, I am also content at the way that they have dealt with it all so far. There are two sides to everything like this and it would be nice to believe that despite all the noise coming from the media which is based on innuendo, rumour, hearsay, it could all be proven to be nonsense.

 

We will just have to wait and see. But I hold out hope that it would be naive to sell players before they have competed in the World Cup after which their value will almost certainly increase, so perhaps that will give us some breathing space to allow the dust to settle.

[hypochondriac]

I agree. But isnt that the problem ?

 

The silence infers nothing is happening.

 

nothing to secure the services of our manager long term

nothing to protect our squad from predators, let alone strengthen it.

 

Nope. The silence infers there is stuff going on behind the scenes and once these things come to their conclusion we will hear what the outcome is and no doubt the club's response. The only inference concerning no one doing anything is in your own head.

[70's Mike]

me i prefer the old ways, nothing known about Keegan signing till it happened

[Daft Kerplunk]

Players who have been rumoured to be on the move and our head coach are under contract, and we've said we don't need to sell, and actually, that we are looking at players to come in. Therefore, until anything changes, nothing needs to be said. Players might leave, the manager might leave and I' like many, will be gutted if that happens but some of the over-reaction to nothing being said when nothing needs to be said is hilarious, and also annoying as you can, if you're not careful, get dragged into it. Please go and cut your grass, have a gin and tonic, or get back to work instead of worrying over nothing

[alpine_saint]

The responses to my post are crap.

 

There are not even any rumours coming out, let alone official announcements.

 

I consider signings without departures to be highly unlikely this summer. I am not even talking about signings, I am talking about securing our manager and our existing players.

 

Have any of you heard a single rumour that the club have come to terms with our manager or our star plaers ?

[saint1977]

I can't remember anytime over the past 5 years we heard so much from the club?

 

It's an uncertain time right now, with interest in our players.

 

Whatever the club say, people still get het up. Just get a grip FFS.

 

It's not 99% of fans though is it? It's a few keyboard warriors. People would have be deluded to think that NC would be giving us any communication either, in fact I remember lots of similar threads and posts if anyone can be bothered to look for them from 2011-NC leaving. I'd much rather the club continued to go about it's efficiently and quietly with a little bit more consideration in operational matters for for fans (ticket costs, taxes, access etc) and announce major things as soon as it is commercially sensible and reasonable to do so. It's not like the mess of Rupert Lowe's managerial searches where he used to take a whole summer and then appoint Stuart Gray or Steve Wigley on the minimum wage and give them a transfer budget of £4m!

[Barry the Badger]

It's really very simple. If there were in a position to say "we 100% will not sell anybody and Pochettino will definitely stay", they would say it.

 

They are clearly not in a position to say that, unfortunately, and so they can't really say anything.

[70's Mike]

The responses to my post are crap.

 

There are not even any rumours coming out, let alone official announcements.

 

I consider signings without departures to be highly unlikely this summer. I am not even talking about signings, I am talking about securing our manager and our existing players.

 

Have any of you heard a single rumour that the club have come to terms with our manager or our star plaers ?

 

good that the club are keeping everything quiet, rumours stink

[Professor]

Nope. The silence infers there is stuff going on behind the scenes and once these things come to their conclusion we will hear what the outcome is and no doubt the club's response. The only inference concerning no one doing anything is in your own head.

I see you now agree that the absence of a statement means that something is going on. Makes your impolite responses look as ill-judged as they are ill-mannered. I've put you on my ignore list and suggest you do the same for me as you don't want to raise your blood pressure.

[Barry the Badger]

I agree. But isnt that the problem ?

 

The silence infers nothing is happening.

 

nothing to secure the services of our manager long term

nothing to protect our squad from predators, let alone strengthen it.

 

SaintsFC Statements in Alpine land

 

Day 1 - "We are talking to the manager and players"

Day 2 - "We are still talking to them but they've not made up their minds"

Day 3 - "We are trying to convince them to stay but we can't offer the same money as Liverpool, Chelsea etc"

Day 4 - "Yep, still trying to convince them, just keeping you all up to date"

Day 5 - "Pretty sure it's working and they might stay"

Day 6 - "Spurs have upped their offer so we are a bit less sure now"

Day 7 - "We all had the day off today but we did organise a meeting for tomorrow"

Day 8 - "We had a meeting and we're still not sure"

[Whitey Grandad]

Nope. The silence infers there is stuff going on behind the scenes and once these things come to their conclusion we will hear what the outcome is and no doubt the club's response. The only inference concerning no one doing anything is in your own head.

 

I agree. But isnt that the problem ?

 

The silence infers nothing is happening.

 

nothing to secure the services of our manager long term

nothing to protect our squad from predators, let alone strengthen it.

 

I don't see how you can come to any conclusions on the basis of no information.

[buctootim]

SaintsFC Statements in Alpine land

 

Day 1 - "We are talking to the manager and players"

Day 2 - "We are still talking to them but they've not made up their minds"

Day 3 - "We are trying to convince them to stay but we can't offer the same money as Liverpool, Chelsea etc"

Day 4 - "Yep, still trying to convince them, just keeping you all up to date"

Day 5 - "Pretty sure it's working and they might stay"

Day 6 - "Spurs have upped their offer so we are a bit less sure now"

Day 7 - "We all had the day off today but we did organise a meeting for tomorrow"

Day 8 - "We had a meeting and we're still not sure"

 

I think we need transcripts of calls and meetings, plus pdfs of draft contracts offered.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

I like the fact they've adopted the stance that if they ignore the rumours and bids, they're not real.