spyinthesky Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Any one know what term contract he is on? 3 years? Notice he has been unused sub for Sochaux at the bottom of French league 1 recently and in one game, v Marseilles, he came on at 26 mins then was subbed at 57 mins. I know this has been done to death before but Mayuka £3m, Forren £3m, Osvaldo £12- £15m, Ramirez £10m plus Wanyama (arguably overpriced by £2m+ according to many pundits) you do wonder how good a side we would be if the transfer money had been spent as wisely as for the likes of Clyne, Davis, Cork, Lovren, Rodriguez and, of course, SRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Any one know what term contract he is on? 3 years? http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/saints-make-mayuka-move-339701.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/saints-make-mayuka-move-339701.aspx We just gave him Forecasts old contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Any one know what term contract he is on? 3 years? Notice he has been unused sub for Sochaux at the bottom of French league 1 recently and in one game, v Marseilles, he came on at 26 mins then was subbed at 57 mins. I know this has been done to death before but Mayuka £3m, Forren £3m, Osvaldo £12- £15m, Ramirez £10m plus Wanyama (arguably overpriced by £2m+ according to many pundits) you do wonder how good a side we would be if the transfer money had been spent as wisely as for the likes of Clyne, Davis, Cork, Lovren, Rodriguez and, of course, SRL Nobody gets it right or even half-right. Forget basket cases like Spurs, look at Liverpool and flavour of the month, Rodgers. Have many of his last season's signings worked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Our front-line striker next year guys, to be fair I wouldn't mind him back as backup, he does score intermittently but he's probably a better option off the bench than Gallagher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Ridiculous to mention Wanyama in this context. He is improving all the time, is only 22 (I think) and is already very good. Easily worth what we paid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Any one know what term contract he is on? 3 years? Notice he has been unused sub for Sochaux at the bottom of French league 1 recently and in one game, v Marseilles, he came on at 26 mins then was subbed at 57 mins. I know this has been done to death before but Mayuka £3m, Forren £3m, Osvaldo £12- £15m, Ramirez £10m plus Wanyama (arguably overpriced by £2m+ according to many pundits) you do wonder how good a side we would be if the transfer money had been spent as wisely as for the likes of Clyne, Davis, Cork, Lovren, Rodriguez and, of course, SRL It's a fair point. Yes, signings are harder to get right from abroad, but there does look to be a bit of a question mark over some of our decisions for signings from other countries. Is it a scouting issue? Or a lack of understanding from those on the committee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Coming on as a sub on Saturday he scored a vital goal that gave Sochaux a chance of avoiding relegation if they win their last game. I think he has scored twice this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Coming on as a sub on Saturday he scored a vital goal that gave Sochaux a chance of avoiding relegation if they win their last game. I think he has scored twice this season. *3 I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Hahhahahaha Wanyama overpriced.... he'd be worth £12m if he was 27 right now but to think he's only 22, just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Hahhahahaha Wanyama overpriced.... he'd be worth £12m if he was 27 right now but to think he's only 22, just wow. Wanyama could easily be a £20-£30m player in a couple of years. I think he's got more potential than Morgan (who is also a bloody good player, don't get me wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Do I wonder how good we would be if all our transfers came off spectacularly? No, cause there's not much point. Every club signs duds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 13 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Wanyama could easily be a £20-£30m player in a couple of years. I think he's got more potential than Morgan (who is also a bloody good player, don't get me wrong). Fair point What I was trying to put over was that Celtic had put an expected value of around £6-£8m on Vic and Cardiff were able to match this. We then came along and offered up £10 - £12m (dependent on who you believe) However Celtic were amazed at our offer and joyfully accepted the additional Wonga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 It's easy to knock transfers with hindsight. No-one gets it right all of the time. Man United & Spurs have bought plenty of duds! Lots of factors dictate how a player adapts to a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Wasn't Mayuka a Cortese recommendation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I haven't seen any pundit state that we paid over the odds for Big Vic. Seen plenty of numpties on here do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Wasn't Mayuka a Cortese recommendation? As well as Ramirez and Osvaldo if some people are believed, how convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 I haven't seen any pundit state that we paid over the odds for Big Vic. Seen plenty of numpties on here do it. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyb5443 Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Big Vic is a great player for us. If he sorts out his long ball he will easily be worth 20-30m. Couldn't big clubs already sniffing around for him. He won't get the clicks on Internet sites like our young English players do when rumors are around so don't expect to see anything like all rest if the bull ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Wasn't Mayuka a Cortese recommendation? I thought i read on here that he was a Reed signing, or at least that Reed was bigging up his potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 May, 2014 Share Posted 13 May, 2014 Our front-line striker next year guys, to be fair I wouldn't mind him back as backup, he does score intermittently but he's probably a better option off the bench than Gallagher. Unfortunately this ^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 It's easy to knock transfers with hindsight. No-one gets it right all of the time. Man United & Spurs have bought plenty of duds! Lots of factors dictate how a player adapts to a club. The trouble with Saints is it's often the record/big buys that go badly. Since our first 1m play Macloughlin, every record signing bar possibly Delap has been poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scdean Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 of our transfers in the last couple years, we really have had some shockers haven't we. Mayuka didnt do anything, Osvaldo, VW is good but not 12m good and gazza conseeds a goal at more than 50% of the time he is shot at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scdean Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 oh... and Gaston. still think he will come good at some point n showed glimpses but another big money buy that hasnt lived up to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 of our transfers in the last couple years, we really have had some shockers haven't we. Mayuka didnt do anything, Osvaldo, VW is good but not 12m good and gazza conseeds a goal at more than 50% of the time he is shot at. Wanyama not 12 million good? I worry about people on here, maybe I shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 of our transfers in the last couple years, we really have had some shockers haven't we. Mayuka didnt do anything, Osvaldo, VW is good but not 12m good and gazza conseeds a goal at more than 50% of the time he is shot at. Wanyama for 12 million is fab value. Don't know what the hell you're on about there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 This. Early on in the season he made quite a few "worst buys" list when his passing was so erratic. (Personally I always liked him, watching him steamroll some of the biggest players in the premier league has been a joy this season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Early on in the season he made quite a few "worst buys" list when his passing was so erratic. (Personally I always liked him, watching him steamroll some of the biggest players in the premier league has been a joy this season). I think you have made this up. Early in season, when after 12 games we had let in 7 goals, in champions league place? Only discussion I remember was on sky saying he was worth double what we paid. Did you see how he played Saturday? Outclassed Man U's midfield - was better than Lallana. He was superb early season. He broke a bone and had a couple of worse games when he came back. (Cork took few games when he came into side). Clearly, and rightly, one of first names on team sheet. Young. International captain. From day one has looked good signing and value for money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Sorry, let me clarify, a few fan polls of worst buys, so not just the numpties on here thought it, plenty of other numpties did To prove I haven't made it up at least here are a couple for your enjoyment. Newcastle where a couple select him http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php?topic=95264.0 (started in April the fools). Palace http://www.cpfc.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-251068.html Arsenal where a couple select him as the worst signing http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=323187&start=30 Again, he's been divisive across the board but I stress, I love the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 of our transfers in the last couple years, we really have had some shockers haven't we. Mayuka didnt do anything, Osvaldo, VW is good but not 12m good and gazza conseeds a goal at more than 50% of the time he is shot at. Check the transfers of other clubs, by comparison we haven't done as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 of our transfers in the last couple years, we really have had some shockers haven't we. Mayuka didnt do anything, Osvaldo, VW is good but not 12m good and gazza conseeds a goal at more than 50% of the time he is shot at. Eh? :s please tell me how good '12 million good' is then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 The trouble with Saints is it's often the record/big buys that go badly. Since our first 1m play Macloughlin, every record signing bar possibly Delap has been poor. Signing Jay Rod also broke the record? From our top 5 biggest signings- Jay Rod, Lovren, Gaston, Wanyama and Osvaldo. From those 5, I'd say 3 have been great, 1(Gaston) has potential but hasn't quite shown it yet and the other has basically just been a failure (Osvaldo of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 anyone know how Mayuka has performed at Sochaux this season? 3 goals and only 15 appearances according to Wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 anyone know how Mayuka has performed at Sochaux this season? 3 goals and only 15 appearances according to Wiki Looking at Soccerbase, he's been on the bench since the beginning of February. 13 starts, 7 sub appearances, 4 goals. His Wikipedia page presumably hasn't been updated for a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Signing Jay Rod also broke the record? From our top 5 biggest signings- Jay Rod, Lovren, Gaston, Wanyama and Osvaldo. From those 5, I'd say 3 have been great, 1(Gaston) has potential but hasn't quite shown it yet and the other has basically just been a failure (Osvaldo of course) Yup, forgot about Jay Rod. However I think that historically our biggest signings haven't alwasy been the best players. i understand that there will be successes and failures in transfers. However i believe the biggest money signings should usually be successes. Over the 25 years I've been aware of Saints transfers, I always felt that hasn't been the case. Sometimes they have worked but nowhere near as much as they should. Unfortunately Wii is lacking in info on this and I can't be bothered to look it In That number to back this up so I' really just going by memory, which my be wrong. however I do think it would be interesting to compare who our transfer successes/failures were in regards to money spent with other clubs. At 3m, Mayuka is still a big outlay. If he never plays for us again I think he will be a bad signing. At that momey you could probably get a league 1 player who will do a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyb5443 Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Lets give the lad some time, i think he'll come good. He would have been ideal to have towards the end of this season when we were playing SG but guess nobody was expecting Osvaldo to do that. Sometimes have to remember we're trying to fund a world class striker now to slot into a top premiership team, not easy. Arsenal have been struggling for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scdean Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 Im just saying, i like cork in the middle with spider as much as VW with him. And you wouldnt say cork would go for over 10m. i think VW brought some physicality to the DM position, but his passing is horrible and makes some stupid challenges.... eg sunday vs United when he had 2 other defenders there, no need to make a challenge let alone kick the crap out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 Im just saying, i like cork in the middle with spider as much as VW with him. And you wouldnt say cork would go for over 10m. i think VW brought some physicality to the DM position, but his passing is horrible and makes some stupid challenges.... eg sunday vs United when he had 2 other defenders there, no need to make a challenge let alone kick the crap out of him. I concede it has been at points but he's been in the high 80%s and even 90%s recently it's not a fair stick to beat him with when he has improved so markedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farawaysaint Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 [video=youtube_share;9RzSkgRM3AM] Free header but well taken, we've all seen those missed this season. I'll say it again I wouldn't mind Mayuka as an option off the bench next season he's still young and can be coached, (plus we have him until 2017). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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