Roger Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 Source? If that is correct as stated then he won't be coming because its almost certain that Shaw is gone, plus Lallana very likely too. He might well be seeking assurances beyond those but I would think anyone coming in knows they won't have those two at their disposal unless there is a huge change in the landscape. You know all of this for a fact do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 Why would Ron stipulate that? He's probably not even familiar with shaw and lallana if at all. Surely he would be more happy bringing his own players in! So the more players needed the better for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 Why would Ron stipulate that? He's probably not even familiar with shaw and lallana if at all. Surely he would be more happy bringing his own players in! So the more players needed the better for him. I dont like to use it, but this was probably closer than ever for me to bring out that facepalm. You think a manager at that level dont know about players in the national teams and who also are going to the WC..... Really? I mean.... Really?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 Why would Ron stipulate that? He's probably not even familiar with shaw and lallana if at all. Surely he would be more happy bringing his own players in! So the more players needed the better for him. Im pretty sure he has done his research and as such will be aware of two of our best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 The club will listen to offers for any of our players. The fact that they said they'd received no offers for any players and then sold RL 24 hours later proves this and also shows that they're liars. There's been offers on the table for Shaw and Lallana for some time so for Kruger to publicly announce that there's been no offers is just bull****. Everyone is for sale at the right price, unfortunately, the sale of Lambert for £4m suggests that our board haven't grasped that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 He might be told that they are off after the World Cup for all we know He might want assurances that the fonte's, Morgans and lovrens of the squad will NOT be sold Have we got more than one of each of those then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 The club will listen to offers for any of our players. The fact that they said they'd received no offers for any players and then sold RL 24 hours later proves this and also shows that they're liars. There's been offers on the table for Shaw and Lallana for some time so for Kruger to publicly announce that there's been no offers is just bull****. Everyone is for sale at the right price, unfortunately, the sale of Lambert for £4m suggests that our board haven't grasped that yet. I'm confused. When did Krueger announce there had been no offers? What he said was: "The preparation that’s been done by our scouts and recruiters make us feel we can move quite quickly to the next step to then present a shortlist of managers that we are considering, and then we can then move forward on the players, because we want the manager to make some decisions and be involved with who comes and goes, and they need to be able to continue to push the Saints forward." This being held up as saying we wouldn't sell anyone without a manager in place (it doesn't say that) and that we've had no offers (which was probably Reed a couple of weeks before the season ended). Am I looking at the wrong statement or is your outrage based on dodgy facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 I dont like to use it, but this was probably closer than ever for me to bring out that facepalm. Really? I mean.... Really?? Are you an upper middle class middle aged lady? If not the face palm would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 The fact that they said they'd received no offers for any players and then sold RL 24 hours later proves this Did this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 Have we got more than one of each of those then? If we've got two Lovrens I'd be prepared to let one of the Fontes go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 8 June, 2014 Share Posted 8 June, 2014 Koeman to be appointed by Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Have we got more than one of each of those then? Like like like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 (edited) Koeman to be appointed by Thursday. Source? Or just your take based on the snipppets and rumors you've heard? Edited 9 June, 2014 by St Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 The club will listen to offers for any of our players. The fact that they said they'd received no offers for any players and then sold RL 24 hours later proves this and also shows that they're liars. There's been offers on the table for Shaw and Lallana for some time so for Kruger to publicly announce that there's been no offers is just bull****. Everyone is for sale at the right price, unfortunately, the sale of Lambert for £4m suggests that our board haven't grasped that yet. I think you are getting confused. When did the club say they hadn't received any bids? Think you will find it was several weeks before Lambert was sold, if fact when he was sold they stated they had received multiple other bids (rumoured to be very high and decent offers) all turned down. I think its far more likely that you have your facts wrong, than they are liars. Do you not think the price for Lambert is decent? He will be 33 half way through the season - how many players can you think of at that age who were sold and their club managed to negotiate a muli-million pound fee? I think the only things proven over last few weeks are that we are in a period of transition but those moaning about our owner seeking a fire sale were wrong. Personally I doubt any manager would seek guarantees that players won't be sold, as it can always happen plus he would know the characters well enough to judge their reaction. If there is any truth in this, (not convinced) think more likely would want guarantee involved in decisions and would have the money to spend - much as club have said and truthful so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 So, to sum up 63 pages, some people think Les Reed and/or the board are either incompetent or mendacious. Others think they are doing the right thing. But nobody knows who our next manager is or when there may be an announcement about it. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 So, to sum up 63 pages, some people think Les Reed and/or the board are either incompetent or mendacious. Others think they are doing the right thing. But nobody knows who our next manager is or when there may be an announcement about it. Carry on. Whats your source for that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggytrousers Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Koeman to be appointed by Thursday. That would make sense. Hodgson has said he wants any transfer activity to be concluded before the World Cup starts. Saints have said they won't sell until a manager is in place. Leaving the announcement til Thursday effectively stalls any Lallana, Shaw deals until after the World Cup by which time the landscape may have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 our ambition as a club will be mirrored a lot through whoever is appointed, it's hard to stay positive with the people now in charge of Southampton FC appearing extremely weak which is something ( the image of the club) Cortese worked hard on changing. Personally I think Koeman will be an almighty flop, although Bruce would always be underwhelming appointment. For me, David Moyes, although under the new clowns it'll be Timmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 our ambition as a club will be mirrored a lot through whoever is appointed, it's hard to stay positive with the people now in charge of Southampton FC appearing extremely weak which is something ( the image of the club) Cortese worked hard on changing. Personally I think Koeman will be an almighty flop, although Bruce would always be underwhelming appointment. For me, David Moyes, although under the new clowns it'll be Timmy. I disagree with that assessment. If the board are as weak as you say, the likes of Shaw and Lallana wouldn't need to moan to the press that the hand that fed is still gripping them post-bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Anyone not keen on Koeman? He's been sacked several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Anyone not keen on Koeman? He's been sacked several times. Hard to name a manager who hasn't been sacked several times to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Nearly every manager has got a patchy career. Even Ferguson got sacked at St Mirren and nearly lost his job at Man U. He's a big name which will help retain players, will possibly bring a good striker with him and plays football thats good to watch. Whether that helps with results, we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Anyone not keen on Koeman? He's been sacked several times. http://www.fifa.com/world-match-centre/nationalleagues/nationalleague=spain-liga-2000000037/news/newsid/195/482/1/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2001/sep/11/newsstory.sport3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2513371/Guy-Whittingham-sacked-Portsmouth-manager.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 cute with all to links to managers that didn't have a good record then performed at saints, but for every strachan, there's a Jan poortvilet and in regards to Shaw and Lallana they'll be gone by the time the season starts, Although I'd love to be proved wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 cute with all to links to managers that didn't have a good record then performed at saints, but for every strachan, there's a Jan poortvilet and in regards to Shaw and Lallana they'll be gone by the time the season starts, Although I'd love to be proved wrong.. no comparison. Poortvliet had never done anything in management and was being asked to play the academy. I doubt anyone could have kept that team up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Koeman to be appointed by Thursday. Have they cleared it with you yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Anyone not keen on Koeman? He's been sacked several times. Maybe the best bet is to go with the last job he had where by all accounts he was a big success. Like others have said aren't many managers that don't have a sacking or two on the CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Purely speculation on my part, but I wonder what odds of Clarence Seedorf being involved in the coaching set up with Ronald, given that he's just been sacked by Milan. If reports that Gio VB will be staying at Feyenoord are true then there are a couple of coaching roles to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 If reports that Gio VB will be staying at Feyenoord are true then there are a couple of coaching roles to fill. Getting a good three or four man coaching team is as important as the manager. Thats would be my main concern about Koeman, if he comes alone and has to scrabble to find people and not only gel the team but also the coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Getting a good three or four man coaching team is as important as the manager. Thats would be my main concern about Koeman, if he comes alone and has to scrabble to find people and not only gel the team but also the coaches. I agree. I would hope that he is experienced enough and have enough close personal relationships to be able to put together a strong coaching team whom he knows will compliment each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 I agree. I would hope that he is experienced enough and have enough close personal relationships to be able to put together a strong coaching team whom he knows will compliment each other. Maybe this is the delay in confirming him. Ensuring he has this team in place ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Purely speculation on my part, but I wonder what odds of Clarence Seedorf being involved in the coaching set up with Ronald, given that he's just been sacked by Milan. If reports that Gio VB will be staying at Feyenoord are true then there are a couple of coaching roles to fill. René Meulensteen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Getting a good three or four man coaching team is as important as the manager. Thats would be my main concern about Koeman, if he comes alone and has to scrabble to find people and not only gel the team but also the coaches. He's going to have the contacts, and presumably we will be an attractive proposition for the backroom staff. Could see a few more big names come in. Exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 I'd take Seedorf as assistant manager, but i would imagine he would only be interested in Managers jobs. Kluivert was linked to Man U, where is he at the moment? I would think it'll be a Dutch set up to go with Koeman anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 I'd take Seedorf as assistant manager, but i would imagine he would only be interested in Managers jobs. Kluivert was linked to Man U, where is he at the moment? I would think it'll be a Dutch set up to go with Koeman anyway.. think kelvin will be keeper coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Purely speculation on my part, but I wonder what odds of Clarence Seedorf being involved in the coaching set up with Ronald, given that he's just been sacked by Milan. If reports that Gio VB will be staying at Feyenoord are true then there are a couple of coaching roles to fill. After his performance in Soccer Aid last night, he can go straight into the first team to play!!! Still got it, a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 think kelvin will be keeper coach I was just going to post the same thing....its interesting that 3 times I have seen people praise Kelvin for his role in the club. I remember Pardew saying at a forum about how Kelvin looks after players fines - team discipline etc. Recently Rickie also praised Kelvin for team spirit and I have seen for myself he is held in high regard amongst the keepers at Staplewood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 think kelvin will be keeper coach Christ I hope he is better teaching a young keeper how to cover his near post than he actually was/is whilst playing then But I agree with the sentiment, he should be involved in the club for many years to come in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 What a boring day of nothingness. Nothing has even changed with the bookies and having dipped in and out of Betfair to see what money is being exchanged about a tenner has gone on today. Hopefully all quiet before the big announcement but it would be nice to get some rumours about Koeman being spotted at the airport again or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 I'd take Seedorf as assistant manager, but i would imagine he would only be interested in Managers jobs. Kluivert was linked to Man U, where is he at the moment? I would think it'll be a Dutch set up to go with Koeman anyway.. Ok, so that's the Dutch duo sorted. Now all we need is a revolutionary new coaching set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublin Saint Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 According to Sky news mobile regional paper talk, Hull are saying that Steve Bruce will still be there despite interest from Saints. Please no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 According to Sky news mobile regional paper talk, Hull are saying that Steve Bruce will still be there despite interest from Saints. Please no Good manager. Plays decent football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Good manager. Plays decent football If you've been force-fed on route one all your life - there's nothing particularly entertaining or attractive about Bruce's teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 If you've been force-fed on route one all your life - there's nothing particularly entertaining or attractive about Bruce's teams. Hull are anything but. Play 3 at the back and play good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Hull are anything but. Play 3 at the back and play good stuff Not saying they play bad stuff - just saying that compared to most English managers of his generation, he's a relative breath of fresh air but that's not saying much. His football is far less attractive than what we've got used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Ranieri.....u heard it here first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 June, 2014 Share Posted 9 June, 2014 Ranieri.....u heard it here first No thanks. Only if we have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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