Doctoroncall Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 To repeat old posts: Just. get. it. done. A foundation to move on. Maybe they are also trying to line up some players (new or replacements for any outgoings) nice and quietly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Not sure if this has been linked at all, but these quotes from David Moyes seem to rule him out completely: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/05/david-moyes-turns-down-job-offers-manchester-united-abroad “I have had a couple of opportunities to go back in and chosen not to do anything just now. I am going to look for what I feel is the right opportunity. I would like to think I proved myself over the 11-year period at Everton and what I am capable of, and the level at which I want to manage.” “I would like somewhere that would give me a chance of being in the Champions League or a club that has ambitions of being in the Champions League." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Sherwood was interviewed last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 When does squad arrive on Brazil? Going back to RK's statement - did he say that he would take fan's view on board re manager? If so I think that the general feeling is for Koeman They fly on Sunday to Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Might as well add my two penneth worth! We have decided on Koeman as our new manager but are waiting until England team have left Miami for Brazil. This way, no medicals etc can take place and we will have 2 Saints in England squad! It also shows that the board are in control of situation and doing it their way, the right way! We aren't going to be held to ransom by players or clubs who want said players! If Lallana and Shaw shine at WC, more than likely their value will be enhanced and we will be in even stronger position. We are also more than likely trying to sort incomings quietly at same time! Expect Koeman and hopefully Pelle announced next Friday when dust has settled. All in my humble opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Might as well add my two penneth worth! We have decided on Koeman as our new manager but are waiting until England team have left Miami for Brazil. This way, no medicals etc can take place and we will have 2 Saints in England squad! It also shows that the board are in control of situation and doing it their way, the right way! We aren't going to be held to ransom by players or clubs who want said players! If Lallana and Shaw shine at WC, more than likely their value will be enhanced and we will be in even stronger position. We are also more than likely trying to sort incomings quietly at same time! Expect Koeman and hopefully Pelle announced next Friday when dust has settled. All in my humble opinion I dont even think shaw will play in the WC lallana needs to do well or he will be hoiked off the park, very quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Not sure if this has been linked at all, but these quotes from David Moyes seem to rule him out completely: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/05/david-moyes-turns-down-job-offers-manchester-united-abroad “I have had a couple of opportunities to go back in and chosen not to do anything just now. I am going to look for what I feel is the right opportunity. I would like to think I proved myself over the 11-year period at Everton and what I am capable of, and the level at which I want to manage.” “I would like somewhere that would give me a chance of being in the Champions League or a club that has ambitions of being in the Champions League." Says it all really Shame, he would have "raised" us to Top Six level IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Sherwood was interviewed last week Supporter Relations Manager? Assume all comms will be written then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Sherwood was interviewed last week Is it wrong to say he'd be right up there just behind Koeman for me in the stakes. Proved himself quite well at Spurs. Very interested in youth development. Would much prefer him to Magath. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Is it wrong to say he'd be right up there just behind Koeman for me in the stakes. Proved himself quite well at Spurs. Very interested in youth development. Would much prefer him to Magath. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not 'wrong', more 'disturbed'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Is it wrong to say he'd be right up there just behind Koeman for me in the stakes. Proved himself quite well at Spurs. Very interested in youth development. Would much prefer him to Magath. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He did well with his mates playing, not sure how well he'd do with players he doesn't know. It would be a gamble for me at this stage in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 I thought everything was agreed in Jan, incĺuding fee? You're trying to be ITK, but you're just not. Give it up. Student also keeps referring to Saints fans (and club) as 'you' - not 'us'. This kind of gets my back up a little bit as I'd rather talk of potential player transfers is discussed among "us". It all seems part of the pressure & expectation being applied by the bigger clubs into making us give our players away for a bag of Werther's originals and some pear drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Student also keeps referring to Saints fans (and club) as 'you' - not 'us'. This kind of gets my back up a little bit as I'd rather talk of potential player transfers is discussed among "us". It all seems part of the pressure & expectation being applied by the bigger clubs into making us give our players away for a bag of Werther's originals and some pear drops. think student is actually a United fan if I seem to remember him saying he was at Southampton uni or something like that, god knows what suddenly makes him ITK about everything Southampton related though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Might as well add my two penneth worth! We have decided on Koeman as our new manager but are waiting until England team have left Miami for Brazil. This way, no medicals etc can take place and we will have 2 Saints in England squad! It also shows that the board are in control of situation and doing it their way, the right way! We aren't going to be held to ransom by players or clubs who want said players! If Lallana and Shaw shine at WC, more than likely their value will be enhanced and we will be in even stronger position. We are also more than likely trying to sort incomings quietly at same time! Expect Koeman and hopefully Pelle announced next Friday when dust has settled. All in my humble opinion If all this comes to pass, and it looks plausible, then can we start to say that the board will have made the best of a bad job? I'd take this scenario now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Sherwood was interviewed last week Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Not a fan of Sherwood as such, but I expect him to be a success if he picks the right club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Sherwood was interviewed last week Give me strength, if rather Koeman, actually I'd rather neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opthomps Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 think student is actually a United fan if I seem to remember him saying he was at Southampton uni or something like that, god knows what suddenly makes him ITK about everything Southampton related though. He is beyond irritating. Everything from his username to his posts. But I expect that's his intention anyway. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Give me strength, if rather Koeman, actually I'd rather neither Out of interest, who would you have if you could choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Sorry, would be distinctly underwhelmed if we went for Sherwood. I think he seems to have convinced some by just being mouthy and bigging himself up all the time. Spurs had a bit of a bounce when he first took over mainly due to Adebayor coming back into the fold, but towards the end of the season, they seemed to be going backwards again and he didn't seem to have all of the players onside. Don't really see much evidence there for why he would be good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 If we pick Sherwood after Spurs discard him for our manager, what could that say about our board? Sure you could say Levy was silly to get rid of the mouthy and cocky Mr "I won 59%", but it would make us look small time to pick up the cast offs of the club that has caused all the trouble (or could be seen to have) in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Can't say I'm overly excited about any of the potential candidates so far. That's probably more to do with selling RL and likely LS and AL as well. Anyone coming in will probably have a fairly big job on their hands. I guess if I had to pick one candidate it would be Ronald de Boer based on nothing but gut feeling. Is he out of the running now though? No one seems to be talking much about him. Hopefully whoever comes in will continue the same pressing style we've got used to - makes us a bit more distinctive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Please not Sherwood. I'm putting him on the Hughton and Mackay pile. He'd only have to open his mouth once or twice and would have players running for their agents. Let him cut his teeth properly at a lower level and see how he gets on. We need a "name", mainly because we'll be needing quite a few transfers in this summer, and also because if there's a slim chance we can show our current crop of players we mean business, that would be it. Koeman just seems to fit. As for Celtic, I'd be distinctly underwhelmed to have Deila as manager, irrespective of the fact that he may get them playing the best football in their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NI Saint Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Deila confirmed as Celtic manager on Twitter so where is Moyes going to get his Champions league team now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Got to be Koeman for me - 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Deila confirmed as Celtic manager on Twitter so where is Moyes going to get his Champions league team now? Would be interesting if he does go to Germany as has been suggested. I'd certainly have a lot of respect for him doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Probably be mentioned before but this piece is well written and makes a lot more sense than some of the nonsense in the press. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/10860028/David-Moyes-should-really-be-the-only-candidate-to-replace-Mauricio-Pochettino-as-Southampton-manager.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Sherwood going very short atm. I can only assume that all the people who have gone short have been interviewed. It seems to make a short list of Koeman, Poyet, Sherwood, Magath, Ranieri, Moyes. Koeman - seems to have been interviewed and seems most likely Poyet - saints made an enquiry and Sunderland quickly tied him down Sherwood - sounds like he's been interviewed and someone around him has let slip Magath - saints asked and were knocked back Ranieri - interviews/talks had Moyes - question asked and he rejected Yakin - wanted the job but seemingly was never asked Mclaren - doesn't seem to have been asked Puel - was going to be interview but then taken off list Gross - talks maybe happened. What you can be sure of is that your board is doing things the right way. They are maximising their chance of getting a manager who works. All clubs should try to be as thorough. Obviously very little is known for sure but that's a decent analysis imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Koeman or Yakin would still be my preference. Unlike others it seems the notion of Sherwood doesn't repulse me. He seems a decent fit and i'd far prefer him to the likes of Magath etc that have been linked of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 David Moyes would be the best choice. Would not 'be looking' to move whereas Koeman probably would. Moyes would likely be here for many years. We probably need that!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesaint Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Moyes for me....why the delay? Get him in now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 David Moyes would be the best choice. Would not 'be looking' to move whereas Koeman probably would. Moyes would likely be here for many years. We probably need that!! I'm not so sure, I tend to take a view that I would rather we had a manager here who was looking to improve, make a better name for himself and maybe move on to better things, because the best way of doing that would be to do well with Southampton. Similarly with players, if they don't want to improve and move on to bigger and better things, there is less personal incentive to bust a gut every week. The onus is on the club to strike a balance, ensuring that you don't lose too much momentum when players or a manager leaves, and that there are enough other good players left, or coming through, to continue. In some respects, that's why I am increasingly looking forward to seeing what a new manager and players can do for us. Obviously I don't think any manager would come here not looking to do well, obviously, but if they have bigger ambitions that is not always a bad thing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Moyes for me....why the delay? Get him in now I've had a couple of opportunities to go back in and chosen not to. I'd like to look towards getting somewhere that would give me a chance of being in the Champions League or a club that has ambitions of being in the Champions League. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27730769 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 I'm not so sure, I tend to take a view that I would rather we had a manager here who was looking to improve, make a better name for himself and maybe move on to better things, because the best way of doing that would be to do well with Southampton. Similarly with players, if they don't want to improve and move on to bigger and better things, there is less personal incentive to bust a gut every week. The onus is on the club to strike a balance, ensuring that you don't lose too much momentum when players or a manager leaves, and that there are enough other good players left, or coming through, to continue. In some respects, that's why I am increasingly looking forward to seeing what a new manager and players can do for us. Yeah I get that I just think that the nearer we get to the top 6/top 4 the more stability we need seeing as in reality we won't become a regular top 6 club. Like you say it striking the right balance! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Moyes isn't coming here and would be on a downer anyway, has no real evidence of trusting young players and has no playing philosophy particularly. Koeman for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Moyes is the safe choice. I don't want safe & boring football. I want Koeman. I want Barcelona not Preston North End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Moyes is the safe choice. I don't want safe & boring football. I want Koeman. I want Barcelona not Preston North End. This really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Would be happy with Koeman, Yakin or Benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Fairly applicable quote by Teddy R as to the state of the prem and where we are deciding to position ourselves through our managerial selection. Highbrow moment warning ! “Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.” Theodore Roosevelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Moyes is the safe choice. I don't want safe & boring football. I want Koeman. I want Barcelona not Preston North End.I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Most of the Koeman stories from Holland, Spain etc are quoting the Daily Echo as their source which is worrying. If its that close then there might be something more concrete being reported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Moyes isn't coming here and would be on a downer anyway, has no real evidence of trusting young players . Wayne Rooney, Ross Barkley, Jack Rodwell, Adnan Januzaj, James Wilson ? Not good enough examples for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Probably be mentioned before but this piece is well written and makes a lot more sense than some of the nonsense in the press. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/10860028/David-Moyes-should-really-be-the-only-candidate-to-replace-Mauricio-Pochettino-as-Southampton-manager.html And not written by somebody with a vested interest at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
student Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Wayne Rooney, Ross Barkley, Jack Rodwell, Adnan Januzaj, James Wilson ? Not good enough examples for you? To be fair he barely played barkley and didnt play wilson at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Most of the Koeman stories from Holland, Spain etc are quoting the Daily Echo as their source which is worrying. If its that close then there might be something more concrete being reported? Thats Koeman coming here ****ed then................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 To be fair he barely played barkley and didnt play wilson at all and sold Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 David Moyes would be the best choice. Would not 'be looking' to move whereas Koeman probably would. Moyes would likely be here for many years. We probably need that!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We employ coaches not managers. The strategy is set by the club so it is normal for the coach to move on every two or three years in the system we have adopted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Fairly applicable quote by Teddy R as to the state of the prem and where we are deciding to position ourselves through our managerial selection. Highbrow moment warning ! “Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.” Theodore Roosevelt Well said Theodore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 So we are interviewing Theodore Roosevelt for the job now? Who will be his assistant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Would be happy with Koeman, Yakin or Benitez. Yes, add in G Neville and Ralf Rangnick (sp?) and it we will have brilliant options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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