DuncanRG Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Sounds like he is already trying to impress them. Hopefully the board won't be fooled. Trying to impress anybody. I very much doubt he's going out there with a job at Southampton in mind.
brett24 Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 If Poch does go, I wanted a manager with an affiliation to Saints. Someone who is not going to use us as a stepping stone.
Viking Warrior Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Brett hiw about the grandpa of footy . Lawrie mac . Does he meet your spec ?
saint lard Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 If Poch does go, I wanted a manager with an affiliation to Saints. Someone who is not going to use us as a stepping stone. Well you are onto a loser straightaway I'm afraid. Prepare to be disappointed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Saint-Armstrong Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 If Poch does go, I wanted a manager with an affiliation to Saints. Someone who is not going to use us as a stepping stone. Great managers don't dream of managing Southampton.
CB Fry Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 If Poch does go, I wanted a manager with an affiliation to Saints. Someone who is not going to use us as a stepping stone. Apart from Alan Ball (who still used us a stepping stone) which successful managers have we appointed who had an prior affiliation with Saints? Don't say Ted Bates either.
VectisSaint Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 You really have to take some of this with a huge pinch of salt. Note that the Journo says 'The ITALIAN' owners. Thought the Liebherrs were Austrian!!! Last I heard they were Swiss. Hence the huge Swiss flag. So its not just Journos who don't know what they are talking about. They were from Germany originally, but I think KL was born in Switzerland.
Badger Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 (edited) If Poch does go, I wanted a manager with an affiliation to Saints. Someone who is not going to use us as a stepping stone. Someone suggested to me years ago (possibly during the Branfoot era) that the problem for Saints is that we either have a good manager and will struggle to keep them, or we have a manager no one else wants. Not far from the truth really. Edited 18 May, 2014 by Badger
Badger Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Trying to impress anybody. I very much doubt he's going out there with a job at Southampton in mind. Sherwood's reputation from THFC will be enhanced. He's already linked with Norwich, WBA, Brighton.
Viking Warrior Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 The Sunday supplement is tosh . Just listened to some numpty saying it makes it easier to give wenger a new contract . But dependent on how long it is . This will show arsenal intent whether they stick by their man and allow him to build or if it is short term then that would show arsenal are losing patience with wingers methods What total tosh . How do these clowns on a chat show know what arsenal are thinking
CB Fry Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 If we ended up with Sherwood, I'd be okay with it. If nothing else he has experience of working with young players. And I like the way he comes across. And his performance at Spurs was good. Not spectacular but far from a disaster. I can think of plenty of candidates I'd like less than Tim Sherwood.
manji Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Brett hiw about the grandpa of footy . Lawrie mac . Does he meet your spec ? Definitely not he ****kked off to Sunderland at the drop of a hat.
stevy777_x Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 If we ended up with Sherwood, I'd be okay with it. If nothing else he has experience of working with young players. And I like the way he comes across. And his performance at Spurs was good. Not spectacular but far from a disaster. I can think of plenty of candidates I'd like less than Tim Sherwood. Did you Like the way his Spurs team leaked goals and surrended in games with no fight (excluding the saints game)?
Window Cleaner Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Bielsa has agreed to join Marseille next season. apparently Mauricio did his negociating for him, probably why he was seen in Marseille a while back.
s0108787 Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Amazes me the number of people on here who 'know' what it takes to be a successful premier league manager!
CB Fry Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Did you Like the way his Spurs team leaked goals and surrended in games with no fight (excluding the saints game)? We'll go with your suggestion, then. Presumably a manager who has never had a team lose a match or concede a goal.
Bewildered Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Did you Like the way his Spurs team leaked goals and surrended in games with no fight (excluding the saints game)? http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/PR/ptsgain.html 17 points gained from losing positions (11 of those under Sherwood). Southampton: 6 points with 0 wins http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/PR/ptslost.html 6 points lost from winning positions (2 of those in games managed by Sherwood). Southampton: 20 points lost Don't know I would want Sherwood, but that is not really a fair angle of attack.
Badger Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Brett hiw about the grandpa of footy . Lawrie mac . Does he meet your spec ? Definitely not he ****kked off to Sunderland at the drop of a hat. He left after twelve years in charge, hardly at the drop of a hat. And this was also after he had rejected possible moves to Leeds (1979 from memory) and Manchester Utd (c1980/81 before they appointed Atkinson). All in all, he gave pretty good service. The 'meltdown' on somewhere like this had it existed in the summer of 1979 would have been in overdrive facility.
stevy777_x Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/PR/ptsgain.html 17 points gained from losing positions (11 of those under Sherwood). Southampton: 6 points with 0 wins http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/PR/ptslost.html 6 points lost from winning positions (2 of those in games managed by Sherwood). Southampton: 20 points lost Don't know I would want Sherwood, but that is not really a fair angle of attack. Wasn't really an attack, but if it sounded like an attack then I appologised. The way they surrendered against the big clubs and took some very severe beatings just doesńt inspire any confidence at all.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 I was totally against Sherwood , but I was impressed with his stint on yesterdays cup final. Came across as knowledgeable and spoke his mind. Wouldn't be my first choice but would prefer him to some of the names mentioned on here.
kwsaint Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 Definitely not he ****kked off to Sunderland at the drop of a hat. After 12 years with Saints and having turned down a number of approaches from other clubs before eventually leaving. Not really 'at a drop of a hat'
Badger Posted 18 May, 2014 Posted 18 May, 2014 He left after twelve years in charge, hardly at the drop of a hat. And this was also after he had rejected possible moves to Leeds (1979 from memory) and Manchester Utd (c1980/81 before they appointed Atkinson). All in all, he gave pretty good service. The 'meltdown' on somewhere like this had it existed in the summer of 1979 would have been in overdrive facility. After 12 years with Saints and having turned down a number of approaches from other clubs before eventually leaving. Not really 'at a drop of a hat' Glad to see someone shares my recollection of events. Not going senile just yet.
goneawol Posted 19 May, 2014 Posted 19 May, 2014 Phil Jupitus linked http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/379448/Former-Brighton-boss-Oscar-Garcia-eyes-Saints-post-as-Spurs-line-up-Pochettino
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 May, 2014 Posted 19 May, 2014 Same paper reported this.. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/378530/SNAPPED-Adam-Lallana-pictured-in-Liverpool-shirt-for-FIRST-time
Bewildered Posted 19 May, 2014 Posted 19 May, 2014 Daily Star Written by Alex Crook I am not convinced as to the article's credibility.
trousers Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 http://www.football365.com/premier-league/9318407/Paolo-Di-Canio-ready-to-return-to-the-English-game-as-manager
Appy Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 Phil Jupitus linked http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/379448/Former-Brighton-boss-Oscar-Garcia-eyes-Saints-post-as-Spurs-line-up-Pochettino I want to manage Saints as well Alex, can I be in the paper?
VectisSaint Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 Phil Jupitus linked Well, local lad at least, born on the Isle of Wight. Might be some issues with his fitness regime.
Convict Colony Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 Have to say I agree with G-dog regarding Yakin, after not really knowing too much about him or Techul I've read loads of articles on them and their tactics over the last few days and I must say they sound awesome. Has anyone watched Basel or Mainz enough to form an informed opinion ? Great article on Murat Yakin http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2014/04/10/4737306/the-next-guardiola-marvellous-murat-yakin-deserves-a-chance
sammysaint Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 TOP 4 for me. 1. Roberto Di Matteo would be my choice, done great at MK Dons Chelsea and WBA sacked harshly by WBA and Chelsea. 2. Uwe Rosler would be my 2nd choice if we can get him, Wigan are a club whos owner will not let him go cheaply, and despite there pathetic fan base a really well run club. 3. Gus Poyet would be 3rd choice, but same as above bar the fan base comment. 4.Tim Sherwood, seems a good coach who would work well with Les Reed, and least we would see his passion and his honesty, his record and win ratio is actually quite good.
Convict Colony Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 TOP 4 for me. 1. Roberto Di Matteo would be my choice, done great at MK Dons Chelsea and WBA sacked harshly by WBA and Chelsea. 2. Uwe Rosler would be my 2nd choice if we can get him, Wigan are a club whos owner will not let him go cheaply, and despite there pathetic fan base a really well run club. 3. Gus Poyet would be 3rd choice, but same as above bar the fan base comment. 4.Tim Sherwood, seems a good coach who would work well with Les Reed, and least we would see his passion and his honesty, his record and win ratio is actually quite good. Don't think he was harshly sacked at WBA:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/9388972.stm "The Baggies lost 3-0 at Manchester City on Saturday and the club said a run of 13 defeats in 18 games was the reason for the decision."
Killers Knee Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 my Top 4, not in any order of preference. 1. Murat Yakin: Young, good track record. 2. Slaven Bilic: Charismatic leader, would do well in Prem. 3. Steve Clarke: WBA finished 8th last season, can do it with the right players. 4. Jorge Sampaoli: Good continuation of tactics and playing style.
Window Cleaner Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 TOP 4 for me. 1. Roberto Di Matteo would be my choice, done great at MK Dons Chelsea and WBA sacked harshly by WBA and Chelsea. 2. Uwe Rosler would be my 2nd choice if we can get him, Wigan are a club whos owner will not let him go cheaply, and despite there pathetic fan base a really well run club. 3. Gus Poyet would be 3rd choice, but same as above bar the fan base comment. 4.Tim Sherwood, seems a good coach who would work well with Les Reed, and least we would see his passion and his honesty, his record and win ratio is actually quite good. Yakin is rumoured to be going to Bastia strangely enough, bit of a step down for him I'd think.
shurlock Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 TOP 4 for me. 1. Roberto Di Matteo would be my choice, done great at MK Dons Chelsea and WBA sacked harshly by WBA and Chelsea. 2. Uwe Rosler would be my 2nd choice if we can get him, Wigan are a club whos owner will not let him go cheaply, and despite there pathetic fan base a really well run club. 3. Gus Poyet would be 3rd choice, but same as above bar the fan base comment. 4.Tim Sherwood, seems a good coach who would work well with Les Reed, and least we would see his passion and his honesty, his record and win ratio is actually quite good. You'd think Di Matteo would come here given his supposed friendship with Cortese.
Badger Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 You'd think Di Matteo would come here given his supposed friendship with Cortese. ..or that the current board would consider him in view of this ?
SNSUN Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 A coach that gets the best out of young players, and plays good attractive football, is what we need. Oh, and one that is really good in the transfer market as we'll need a few new players brought in. Shouldn't be too hard to find. #redknappwillbeoursaviour
Jimmy_D Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 A coach that gets the best out of young players, and plays good attractive football, is what we need. Oh, and one that is really good in the transfer market as we'll need a few new players brought in. Shouldn't be too hard to find. #redknappwillbeoursaviour Didn't know Louise had taken her coaching badges.
SNSUN Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 Didn't know Louise had taken her coaching badges. She'd be good for morale...
DuncanRG Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 There are signs of a very good coach in Tim Sherwood but looking at his character from the outside I'm not sure he'd carry on the positive attitude we've had at the club since 2009.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 really find it hard to believe that anybody would want sherwood anywhere near saints. He showed how naive he is at spurs last year and would turn into an emabrassment very quickly
angelman Posted 20 May, 2014 Posted 20 May, 2014 Sherwood should cut his teeth at Brighton or somewhere like that. Decent sized club, ground, support and close to play offs, so no surprise if they got promoted. Personally would hate him here.
sebastian firefly Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 SHERWOOD frankly, id rather shove giant wasps up my *rse
St_Tel49 Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 SHERWOOD frankly, id rather shove giant wasps up my *rse Apart from having the best win % of any Spurs Manager (admittedly on only half a season but you can only win the games that are there) what exactly has he done wrong?
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 Apart from having the best win % of any Spurs Manager (admittedly on only half a season but you can only win the games that are there) what exactly has he done wrong? They got smashed by the big clubs, he looked tactically naive
St_Tel49 Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 They got smashed by the big clubs, he looked tactically naive And of course he is totally incapable of learning from that. He still beat us twice.
Hopkins Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 And of course he is totally incapable of learning from that. He still beat us twice. He had a number of stupid outbursts that showed he wasn't handling the pressure very well. His "I'm so honest, I'm a breath of fresh air, everyone love me" approach was embarrassing and smacked of Harry Redknapp. I personally am always wary of a man who is quite clearly using the media in a "ooo feel sorry for me because i'm young and English" way to give himself a good name. He alienated half the squad in 5 months let alone not exactly being popular with his fanbase. Despite his amaznig record that he and the media are banging on about he did about par with a pretty good squad (Nothing AVB couldn't and wouldn't have done) and further to all of that....he put a fan on the bench because he's so bloody wacky. **** off. He may well be capable of learning, i'm not saying he isn't. He's clearly done a good job at Spurs on the youth side as they have a couple of good youngsters coming through (Debatable IMO but I'll let it slide) but I'd rather he didn't learn with us. I don't want a wacky manager unless he's proven. If we are to go down the unproven route I don't want a manager who is worried about his perception and wants the media to love him and I don't want a media love in so that in the bad times everyone can paper over the cracks. I want a professional manager getting on with his job and relishing in what is clearly a good job for anyone to take on.
JonnyLove Posted 21 May, 2014 Posted 21 May, 2014 If you want to put a bet on the next manager of saints the it would be best put on Eddie Howe. I don't have a direct line to the man himself but have had two people very close give me some details. If I'm right then my itk ranking will be right and if not then it will be where it is now. Non existent.
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