Baird of the land Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Yakin has joined CSKA (apparently, will be announced tomorrow) Disappointing if true. Is that a more attractive job than a prem one or did we never even enquire about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 LR meeting a british manager today and another meeting scheduled for early next week with a continental manager (french speaking) no names yet unfortunately, not claiming to be knowledgeable, just passing on what I've been told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldbarbarian Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 LR meeting a british manager today and another meeting scheduled for early next week with a continental manager (french speaking) no names yet unfortunately, not claiming to be knowledgeable, just passing on what I've been told Koeman was at Limewood yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Don't get why koeman's such short odds personally. I don't particularly like the fact he's bounced around constantly. Still would much prefer yakin. It only takes a few Twitter rumours apparently from someone ITK to convince some people to lump on, then the odds tumble. Not difficult to manipulate if you're determined. Could easily be a ploy to push other odds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Koeman was at Limewood yesterday. could well have been, like I said just passing on what I've been told from someone who works at the club. looks as if we are starting to narrow down the list of candidates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Moyes and Remi Garde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Moyes and Remi Garde? those two fit the bill, like I said, didn't get told names. I have no reason to disbelieve the person who told me, not a football fan and certainly wouldn't be on the wind-up. I'll post more if and when Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldbarbarian Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 could well have been, like I said just passing on what I've been told from someone who works at the club. looks as if we are starting to narrow down the list of candidates It looks that way mate. Need to get a manager in quickly but also needs to be the right man!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 LR meeting a british manager today and another meeting scheduled for early next week with a continental manager (french speaking) no names yet unfortunately, not claiming to be knowledgeable, just passing on what I've been told If you believe Twitter (which I don't!) then the British Manager is Steve Mclaren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 If you believe Twitter (which I don't!) then the British Manager is Steve Mclaren I'd be surprised if he left Derby so soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Twitter also say Saints have 3-4 names all foreign for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Moyes and Remi Garde? article on Garde: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/the-next-arsenal-manager-garde-giving-impressive-audition-at-lyons-2342617.html The article dates from August 2011 so no idea how his career has fared since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 article on Garde: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/the-next-arsenal-manager-garde-giving-impressive-audition-at-lyons-2342617.html The article dates from August 2011 so no idea how his career has fared since then. He took over from Puel and they've gone downhill a bit since then. He's just a textbook coach with little flair or imagination. the way Aulas likes them, doesn't have much to say when the star players are auctioned off to create funds. Forced to work with a mix of academy players and fading stars and didn't do all that well. Quit because he was hacked off at lack of ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Leta be honest. No Manager at the top of his game will be interested, the likes of de Boer etc. They might have with our full squad, but whoever comes in starts off at a disadvantage from the off, a ****ed off fanbase, a squad whose heart has been ripped out. Probably a few others who are trying to engineer moves away. For this reason we will get someone who is just grateful to be given a chance in the PL. They may turn out good, but IMO it won't be someone who is a proven high calibre Manager. At least not in my definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Leta be honest. No Manager at the top of his game will be interested, the likes of de Boer etc. They might have with our full squad, but whoever comes in starts off at a disadvantage from the off, a ****ed off fanbase, a squad whose heart has been ripped out. Probably a few others who are trying to engineer moves away. For this reason we will get someone who is just grateful to be given a chance in the PL. They may turn out good, but IMO it won't be someone who is a proven high calibre Manager. At least not in my definition. Are you not getting attention at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 We won't get Moyes even though I would prefer him. He wouldn't want to work for the current clubs leadership - the longer the week has gone on the more MP looks vindicated for electing to move to Spurs. Clearly he knew that they were going to sell his team. I fear Reed and RK are about to make similar mistakes that Lowe did. God I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Leta be honest. No Manager at the top of his game will be interested, the likes of de Boer etc. They might have with our full squad, but whoever comes in starts off at a disadvantage from the off, a ****ed off fanbase, a squad whose heart has been ripped out. Probably a few others who are trying to engineer moves away. For this reason we will get someone who is just grateful to be given a chance in the PL. They may turn out good, but IMO it won't be someone who is a proven high calibre Manager. At least not in my definition. I share some of the concern here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Strewth, I thought I was a pessimist, but damn, some of you on here might just as well go down to the other end of the M27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 If you believe Twitter (which I don't!) then the British Manager is Steve Mclaren Harry's apprentice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Strewth, I thought I was a pessimist, but damn, some of you on here might just as well go down to the other end of the M27 It's not that bad yet! But the sense of fear is notable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Are you not getting attention at home? is that the way it works, then? #innerdemons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Harry's apprentice ! Would that mean he would be there to get us relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Latest (skybet) Most of which looks pretty uninspiring, or just ridiculous. Koeman and Laudrup have the names, but their magerial careers are fairly chequered. Can't see Benitez or de Boer being remotely interested, especially with us shoving our better players out of the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Whose managerial record would you consider better: Koeman or Pochettino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Whose managerial record would you consider better: Koeman or Pochettino? Fair point. And of course, MP came with no track record to speak of. Who do you think might have promised more over the next 3 seasons ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Fair point. And of course, MP came with no track record to speak of. Who do you think might have promised more over the next 3 seasons ? with MP staying with most of the squad it is far far less of a gamble that what will actually happen next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 With Yakin now an outside bet due to CSKA interest I'm going for Koeman or Moyes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 (edited) Whose managerial record would you consider better: Koeman or Pochettino? has Koeman ever managed outside of the Dutch league. It really isn't a recommendation, De Ridder was a star in the Eredivisie. As yes Benfica, pushed out of the door after 1 season, and sacked at Valencia after less than one season.Not my favourite candidate for the job really. Why can't we go after Rosler. Edited 30 May, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 has Koeman ever managed outside of the Dutch league. It really isn't a recommendation, De Ridder was a star in the Eredivisie. Benfica, Valencia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Latest (skybet) Blimey just realised that there is no Sven, not too long ago he would have been linked with just about every football vacancy on the planet! Even more surprising considering that we allegedly have his old mucker Torde Gripp on our scouting team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 2 days ago I would have turned my nose up at Moyes as 'damaged goods' But I'm starting to think his massive Premier League experience (at 2 clubs bigger than Saints) could be what we need this summer to steady the good ship Southampton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 2 days ago I would have turned my nose up at Moyes as 'damaged goods' But I'm starting to think his massive Premier League experience (at 2 clubs bigger than Saints) could be what we need this summer to steady the good ship Southampton... Me too - but would he come? His bosses are hardly displaying ambition and grim determination to retain our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-til-i-die Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Rosler for me. Martinez and Rodgers came from the championship and look at how well they are doing. Harry whatshisname didn't exactly set the world alight this year with QPR but has done well in the Premier League. Less snobbery needed I think. Koeman - record isn't great from what I've read; lots of teams gradually getting worse. Laudrup - too many issues (and won't hang around) McClaren - very up and down. A gamble. Then again, who isn't? Mackay - NO. PLEASE NOT HIM. Garde - from what I've read sounds good; by all accounts he wants a break from management this year. Yakin - was keen, but now hesitant. Some comments about him being fairly defensive at times in winnable games. Howe - could be great; could struggle. A gamble but more likely a long term appointment. Tuchel - sounds impressive but a gamble (just like MPo I guess) Garcia - by all accounts Brighton fans weren't too pleased with him. Moyes - can't make my mind up at all. Experienced but not keen on style of football... guess I've been so spoilt with good football for a few years I don't want to go backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 In normal circumstances I'd want us to go down a similar path to MP, a young and forward thinking coach type. But these aren't normal circumstances. Unfortunately, and I don't like saying this, but I think we need a 'name'. We have what looks like a lot of unrest within the playing squad and we have a board who, at best, are very naive and we need a manager who will instantly have the respect of the players and can hopefully prevent what looks like being a pretty horrible summer otherwise. The good thing us that 1 week ago the front 3 in the betting were Petrescu, Lennon and Mackay. Now it's Yakin, Koeman and Laudrup. That's promising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Laudrup is being dismissed as an option due to newspaper reports about his lack of interest and lack of time spent on the training ground. But weren’t the same accusations pointed to MP in a recent newspaper article? Laudrup would be free, has managed a similar sized club, delivering Europe, cup win/final (the first major trophy in Swansea's 100-year history) + he plays a similar passing style to MP (allowing some continuity at all levels) Laudrup also has good contacts it seems and his signings for Swansea have been largely impressive (Bony + Michu especially) He left Swansea in mid-table and still in the FA Cup and Europa League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Now, i have a suspision that we are selling the players so that when cortese takes over there is nothing left, Sorry wrong thread, anyway i still think it will be a foriegn manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-til-i-die Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Rosler! The next Martinez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Laudrup is being dismissed as an option due to newspaper reports about his lack of interest and lack of time spent on the training ground. But weren’t the same accusations pointed to MP in a recent newspaper article? Of course you know this, but MP was actually somewhat of an exception in that he worked long hours at the training ground. He certainly has a good work ethic. For a PL Manager to not spend much time at the training ground is frankly, ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Can anybody elaborate why Yakin left Basel? Both parties wanted a change. Basel not very keen to keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Rosler for me. Martinez and Rodgers came from the championship and look at how well they are doing. Harry whatshisname didn't exactly set the world alight this year with QPR but has done well in the Premier League. Less snobbery needed I think. Koeman - record isn't great from what I've read; lots of teams gradually getting worse. Laudrup - too many issues (and won't hang around) McClaren - very up and down. A gamble. Then again, who isn't? Mackay - NO. PLEASE NOT HIM. Garde - from what I've read sounds good; by all accounts he wants a break from management this year. Yakin - was keen, but now hesitant. Some comments about him being fairly defensive at times in winnable games. Howe - could be great; could struggle. A gamble but more likely a long term appointment. Tuchel - sounds impressive but a gamble (just like MPo I guess) Garcia - by all accounts Brighton fans weren't too pleased with him. Moyes - can't make my mind up at all. Experienced but not keen on style of football... guess I've been so spoilt with good football for a few years I don't want to go backwards. Moyes is defensive I grant you that. Knows how to win a game once in the lead, he grinds out results. Considering we have a strong midfield (still) and defence and no strikers (Jay Rod is broken and Gallagher is League 1/CCC at best at the moment), it strikes me we might need exactly this type of manager. None of your list inspire me - Moyes I sense will be hungry to re establish his reputation. But, I can't see him wanting to work for our Board, who right now look very suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Both parties wanted a change. Basel not very keen to keep him. He wanted more than they could pay, not that they were all that keen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 arsene Wengers out - just signed a new deal at Arse until 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Of course you know this, but MP was actually somewhat of an exception in that he worked long hours at the training ground. He certainly has a good work ethic. For a PL Manager to not spend much time at the training ground is frankly, ludicrous. I am hearing different things on MP since he left - this is fairly typical after a manager leaves as staff are more inclined to tell the full story. Consistent with Neil Ashton's comments the other day - MP was known to be a control freak, showed favouritism towards a small group of players, sulked (a lot), was paranoid and started spending less and less time at the training ground after January. I appreciate this is fairly one-sided, but is also remarkably similar to the accusations thrown at Laudrup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I am hearing different things on MP since he left - this is fairly typical after a manager leaves as staff are more inclined to tell the full story. Consistent with Neil Ashton's comments the other day - MP was known to be a control freak, showed favouritism towards a small group of players, sulked (a lot), was paranoid and started spending less and less time at the training ground after January. I appreciate this is fairly one-sided, but is also remarkably similar to the accusations thrown at Laudrup? How is it this Glasgow Taint is able to come back under a different badge and continue with his made up, inflammatory drivel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Rosler for me. Martinez and Rodgers came from the championship and look at how well they are doing. Harry whatshisname didn't exactly set the world alight this year with QPR but has done well in the Premier League. Less snobbery needed I think. Koeman - record isn't great from what I've read; lots of teams gradually getting worse. Laudrup - too many issues (and won't hang around) McClaren - very up and down. A gamble. Then again, who isn't? Mackay - NO. PLEASE NOT HIM. Garde - from what I've read sounds good; by all accounts he wants a break from management this year. Yakin - was keen, but now hesitant. Some comments about him being fairly defensive at times in winnable games. Howe - could be great; could struggle. A gamble but more likely a long term appointment. Tuchel - sounds impressive but a gamble (just like MPo I guess) Garcia - by all accounts Brighton fans weren't too pleased with him. Moyes - can't make my mind up at all. Experienced but not keen on style of football... guess I've been so spoilt with good football for a few years I don't want to go backwards. It's like you extracted post that from my head. Can't disagree with anything you wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 How is it this Glasgow Taint is able to come back under a different badge and continue with his made up, inflammatory drivel? spotted him straight away, put the idiot on ignore, pity everyone hasn't done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I am hearing different things on mopo since he left - this is fairly typical after a manager leaves as staff are more inclined to tell the full story. Consistent with Neil Ashton's comments the other day - mopo was known to be a control freak, showed favouritism towards a small group of players, sulked (a lot), was paranoid and started spending less and less time at the training ground after January. I appreciate this is fairly one-sided, but is also remarkably similar to the accusations thrown at Laudrup? Fixed for you That's more like it - flexing your wum muscles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Moyes is defensive I grant you that. Knows how to win a game once in the lead, he grinds out results. Considering we have a strong midfield (still) and defence and no strikers (Jay Rod is broken and Gallagher is League 1/CCC at best at the moment), it strikes me we might need exactly this type of manager. None of your list inspire me - Moyes I sense will be hungry to re establish his reputation. Moyes would be an awesome appointment, I remember his name the last time we needed a manager and everybody just laughing at the ludicrous idea that he would even consider Saints. He is exactly what we need at the moment but I can't see it myself, he is probably a shoe in for Celtic anyway. McClaren is tainted goods I know but he is probably the sort of manager we need, experienced, calm and able to manage some big egos. One thing is for sure the board need to sort this asap. Rudderless ship at the moment and we are under attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Rosler for me. Martinez and Rodgers came from the championship and look at how well they are doing. Harry whatshisname didn't exactly set the world alight this year with QPR but has done well in the Premier League. Less snobbery needed I think. Koeman - record isn't great from what I've read; lots of teams gradually getting worse. Laudrup - too many issues (and won't hang around) McClaren - very up and down. A gamble. Then again, who isn't? Mackay - NO. PLEASE NOT HIM. Garde - from what I've read sounds good; by all accounts he wants a break from management this year. Yakin - was keen, but now hesitant. Some comments about him being fairly defensive at times in winnable games. Howe - could be great; could struggle. A gamble but more likely a long term appointment. Tuchel - sounds impressive but a gamble (just like MPo I guess) Garcia - by all accounts Brighton fans weren't too pleased with him. Moyes - can't make my mind up at all. Experienced but not keen on style of football... guess I've been so spoilt with good football for a few years I don't want to go backwards. So what makes Rosler any better than those you have assessed? What has he done to deserve being placed above any of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Koeman was great at Feyenoord the last few seasons, with very little money he finished second in the league twice. However his time at Valencia, AZ and to a certain extent Ajax werent very successfull. At Feyenoord he played many youth players and had to sell his best players at the end of the season. Frank de Boer wont happen, IF the club somehow is able to get him, MP will be forgotten very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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