Mr X Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Ronald Koeman for me Look at his manager stats! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Koeman#Managerial_career good shout looks promising 55% win ratio in 483 games!! Thats pretty impressive, 877 goals in those games to, thats nearly as good as 2 goals a game. 3 league titles as a manager, 5 cups. Huge reputation in the game, speaks english and his agent said in March he wants to manage in england... according to the same artical he is also leaving feyenoord this summer! http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11731/9209131/ronald-koeman-keen-on-swansea-job-according-to-director-john-van-zweden Just look at some of the players that have played under him in the last 13 years!!! At Ajax Zlatan Ibrahimovic Rafael van der vaart Maxwell Wesley Sneijder Jari Litmanen Nigel De Jong At Benfica Nuno Gomes Luisao At PSV Phillip Cocu Patrick Kluivert Ibrahim Afellay Alex Jeferson Farfan Valencia Raul Albiol Santiago Canizares David Villa David Albelda Fernando Morientes Ever Banega Juan Mata Joaquin David Silva Edu Feyenoord John Guidetti Good shout looks promising!
LaptopSaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Yeah I really like Koeman. Just what we need. If we're lowering our sights (hope we're not) to the English lower leagues, not Eddie Howe. Ever. I'd go for Uwe Rosler.
LaptopSaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Nobody is mentioning Clement. Ancelotti's number two, impressive CV. Is the feeling that he needs to prove himself at a smaller club first? Don't know much about his philosophy etc, but doubt it's far attached from Carlo's. One thing is for certain - we will appoint a manager who can maximise the academy resources we have. The academy play 4-3-3 (or variations of) in every age group which is the philosophy directed by Les Reed (and Cortese) and the reason for changing Adkins in the first place. This rules out quite a few names like Lennon, Sherwood, Moyes. It rules in the likes of Yakin (who has an extremely impressive playing style for anyone that's watched them), Laudrup (although his dismissal at Swansea will virtually guarantee being below Yakin in the pecking order), Koeman, de Boer (although probably thinks he can move to bigger teams than us) & Benitez (doubt he would leave Napoli at this time unless it was for a top top club). I think the majority of names on the list would attract interest from teams in the bottom 10 but would show a lack of ambition for an 8th placed EPL team looking to move forward. The bottom line is, to move forward we either need better players than we currently have (unlikely) or we need a better manager than Pochettino. Also remember that Poyet absolutely loathes Southampton - his league victory over us at the Stadium of Light consisted of a half-time rant about why he detested Southampton so much from his time at Brighton! Seems to be a man with a chip on his shoulder. I'll throw McClaren into the mix as well though for being a very intelligent coach who could fit the long-term vision of this club and impress the directors. I'm sure him and Les Reed must sing off a similar hymn sheet. He is the only candidate I believe could fit the philosophy and also be a good long-term option for the club. My preferred (realistic) choices: 1) McClaren; 2) Yakin; 3) Koeman; 4) Clement Good post. Agree with pretty much all of this although my preference would be Koeman first, with Rosler as the wild card.
The Majestic Channon Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Eddie howe was like a rabbit trapped in headlights outside his bmth Comfort zone when he was at Burnley.he's better off staying put and there is no way he should even be considered for the Saints job.
Batman Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 well, Ralf has just said that the club has been flooded with applications from managers across Europe
OttawaSaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 well, Ralf has just said that the club has been flooded with applications from managers across Europe Great! Now he just has to sort them into one of two piles, "all sh1t" and "all fart"...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Win ratios again. In Holland's top flight, with the biggest clubs. I'm not buying it. But overall he looks promising. Big worry would just be whether he'd stay. No prem experience and short spells at most clubs. especially as his win ratio at Valencia was none too great. Is he leaving Feynoord then anyway. See Schuster has been given the heave ho at Malaga, that'll take away one decent candidate. Laudrup perhaps.
hypochondriac Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 well, Ralf has just said that the club has been flooded with applications from managers across Europe If we get a championship level manager I will be livid.
Matthew Le God Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Ronald Koeman is a long ball merchant! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmMDYxgE7Jo&feature=kp
shurlock Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 If we get a championship level manager I will be livid. Who would you consider a success?
Saint George Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Add me to the Jorge Sampaoli camp......His teams are some of the best coached sides I've ever seen....He's also a student of the Bielsa philosophy, same as Pochittino. Will never happen with this crew running the show, but can only live in hope
Saints foreva Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 If we get a championship level manager I will be livid. This.
Baird of the land Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 well, Ralf has just said that the club has been flooded with applications from managers across Europe HR will have a busy job sending out floods of rejection letters then. Hardly like we need to be sitting waiting for the postman to arrive to sound out if our shortlist candidates are interested.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Amazing to see many on here still thinking we're about to appoint a decent coach such as De Boer or Yukin (would love that to be true). Think more...err...Poyet? That's probably nearer the truth and reflective of the Board's 'ambition'.
Matthew Le God Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Amazing to see many on here still thinking we're about to appoint a decent coach such as De Boer or Yukin (would love that to be true). Think more...err...Poyet? That's probably nearer the truth and reflective of the Board's 'ambition'. I'm guessing you missed yesterday's interview when Yakin confirmed he was interested in the job.
Berudenot2 Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Bernd Schuster anyone? Available now. Apologies if already sugested. Couldn't be arsed to read 57 pages worth.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 I'm guessing you missed yesterday's interview when Yakin confirmed he was interested in the job. You're correct I did, but have since read much of the interesting stuff on here. Frankly means nothing to be fair - doesn't mean he will be in the running. I have heard Poyet has been at SMS twice before the season ended. The Board knew Mopo was off weeks ago and have been working on a replacement way before now. Would love it to be Yakin, but I'm not expecting his arrival to be honest.
Matthew Le God Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 I guess this has come from the BBC Solent interview yet to air... Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 41s Southampton hope to appoint a replacement to Mauricio Pochettino before the World Cup. Les Reed leading search
Matthew Le God Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/28052014-chairman-search-underway-1577665.aspx
Lord Duckhunter Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 There's nobody that really jumps out at me, but then there hasn't been anyone whose really excited me since Bally came back. I don't know enough about some of the names on here to comment, but I do think trying to find another in the Poch mould is the wrong approach. Different time, different skill set needed. There's going to be real upheaval this summer and we need somebody who can cope with that and steady the ship. That's why dismissing Moyes is ridiculous. He wouldn't be first choice, but if you want a steady hand he's got to be considered. I don't know why people are dismissing Gus either, he's a players ,manager and his side play good stuff. People I know who have met him say he's very charismatic, although he maybe a bit too volatile for the present situation. Not popular and I understand why, but I feel Glenda has unfinished business in English football. He was a great tactician, and his work with his acedemy does show he wants to bring on youngsters. If he's learnt the art of humilty , I wouldn't rule him out. Laudrap, would be popular with players and short term this is maybe what we need. Just be walking in the changing room he'll inspire respect, although I'd worry about his leaving of Swansea. If we are going for a rookie, I'd love Gary Neville. If he bought in somebody alongside him, maybe phelan or meulensteen. Even maybe Jamie carraghar would be a good rookie, but do we want another manager who needs an interpreter again? Overall my main concern is avoiding meltdown and although not popular on here the one man who will ensure that doesn't happen is Moyes. There reluctantly, if you held a gun to my head and made me choose, that'll be my choice. Tomorrow I'll hopefully have a change of heart.
positivepete Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Not sure who I would like. Still feel a bit numb with it all. Those knocking Moyes needs to take a long hard look at themselves. He was offered one of the biggest jobs in the football world. Didn't have a good time but I believe anyone following ferguson would have had the same to deal with. Yes he made mistakes but who hasn't. Remember when Strachan came he was on the back of a rough time. I quite like the manager with something to prove. Moyes and Strachan! The dream team for insomniacs everywhere. Rather have the Dutch duo, at least they tried to play football.
Goodfella Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/28052014-chairman-search-underway-1577665.aspx Keep it up Krueger
DuncanRG Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 I don't know enough about some of the names on here to comment, but I do think trying to find another in the Poch mould is the wrong approach. Different time, different skill set needed. Problem is that the youth teams play the same way as the firsts. Major upheaval would throw that completely out of whack at all levels of the club, not just the first team. They don't have to be exactly like Pochettino, but fluid, passing football with attacking full-backs is essential. I am certain the club feels the same way, and that's why we won't see someone like Moyes come in.
Matthew Le God Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 https://audioboo.fm/boos/2203913-listen-the-full-unedited-interview-with-saintsfc-chairman-ralph-krueger-talking-to-bigadamsport#t=10m35s This is interesting, at 10:40 Krueger says... "We feel we can move quite quickly to the next step and have a shortlist presented, very quickly also to the public which managers we are seriously considering."
ART Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Just read the bullsh*te that Kruegar's just issued and disgusted that they can't even identity a short list of candidates for replacing Pinnochio. Cortese would have already been on the phone and about to interview his top 5 candidates. What utter waffle Kruegar comes up with. We'll be no nearer choosing a new Manager by the time the World Cup end. An utter shambles since Kruegar was appointed. No wonder Pinnochio jumped ship.
Patrick Bateman Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Just read the bullsh*te that Kruegar's just issued and disgusted that they can't even identity a short list of candidates for replacing Pinnochio. Cortese would have already been on the phone and about to interview his top 5 candidates. What utter waffle Kruegar comes up with. We'll be no nearer choosing a new Manager by the time the World Cup end. An utter shambles since Kruegar was appointed. No wonder Pinnochio jumped ship. What the hell? You're odd, what did you expect him to say? It made a lot of sense.
Bewildered Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Just read the bullsh*te that Kruegar's just issued and disgusted that they can't even identity a short list of candidates for replacing Pinnochio. Cortese would have already been on the phone and about to interview his top 5 candidates. What utter waffle Kruegar comes up with. We'll be no nearer choosing a new Manager by the time the World Cup end. An utter shambles since Kruegar was appointed. No wonder Pinnochio jumped ship.
Saint Charlie Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 I've been critical of Krueger but that was a decent interview.
70's Mike Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 i really do not think we will get a "name" uncle Les is looking for a coach not an old fashioned manager who will a say about the club from top to bottom
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 People saying Cortese would have done things better need to get a grip. The reason we are where we are is because NC went off the rails. In fact imo he had been going off the rails for quite a while. Yes he threw money around and fans like Alpine just love that but he knew he was steering the ship towards the rocks and in the end I think he even enjoyed the prospect of hitting them.
buctootim Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 https://audioboo.fm/boos/2203913-listen-the-full-unedited-interview-with-saintsfc-chairman-ralph-krueger-talking-to-bigadamsport#t=10m35s This is interesting, at 10:40 Krueger says... "We feel we can move quite quickly to the next step and have a shortlist presented, very quickly also to the public which managers we are seriously considering." Would be an unusual move. Cant see any candidates wanting their name released publicly when there is only, say, a one in four chance of getting the job. What club wants to employ other peoples cast offs or have it known their manager applied for another job and got turned down?
SuperMikey Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Can anybody elaborate why Yakin left Basel? "Mutual consent" - i.e. bigger things. Don't think he's disloyal, seems to have left the club on very good terms.
Batman Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 "Mutual consent" - i.e. bigger things. Don't think he's disloyal, seems to have left the club on very good terms. is that what basel fans think?
Saint Charlie Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Poyet signs new deal at Sunderland - good news for us. Weird, weird bloke and mostly atrocious signings.
SuperMikey Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 is that what basel fans think? We've probably got a Swiss football expert somewhere on here, i'm sure they'll tell you. Going by the statement that Basel made when he left they don't seem unhappy.
WealdSaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 From Twitter Gus Poyet has signed a new two-year deal at Sunderland; ends Southampton's interest in him. More @Independent
ZebadeeRust Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Random suggestion - ex Oxford United manager, Ramon Diaz. What? The bloke who has just taken a world famous football club to their first title in years and then unexpectedly resigned yesterday? 2+2=5?
Batman Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 We've probably got a Swiss football expert somewhere on here, i'm sure they'll tell you. Going by the statement that Basel made when he left they don't seem unhappy. we have said that we respect what MP has done, that we grew strongly under him and that we very much tried everything to keep him. does not sound like sour grapes this end either
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Poyet signs new deal at Sunderland - good news for us. Weird, weird bloke and mostly atrocious signings. Great news.
scotty Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Can anybody elaborate why Yakin left Basel? Duh.... isn't it obvious??? Clearly he heard that the Saints job might be up for grabs. Why else would he leave?
Bucks Saint Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 From Twitter Gus Poyet has signed a new two-year deal at Sunderland; ends Southampton's interest in him. More @Independent For which read: "Gus Poyet signs a new two year deal at Sunderland, despite implying he was unhappy there, as he realised no one else is interested in him, particularly not Southampton"
Convict Colony Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Can anybody elaborate why Yakin left Basel? Got a shout ?
SuperMikey Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 we have said that we respect what MP has done, that we grew strongly under him and that we very much tried everything to keep him. does not sound like sour grapes this end either Well, reading through the most recent posts on this thread (http://www.fcbforum.ch/forum/showthread.php?35549-Yakin-raus) it looks like they're not criticising him for a lack of loyalty, although the fans were a bit p!ssed off at only playing one striker. Apparently he was fond of a bit of golf instead of putting in all the hours on the training ground like Poch did as well..!
bazza Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 is that what basel fans think? Any foreign language experts out there? http://www.fcbforum.ch/forum/showthread.php?35549-Yakin-raus
pap Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Even maybe Jamie carraghar would be a good rookie, but do we want another manager who needs an interpreter again? Bagsy the interpreter job
SuperMikey Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Bagsy the interpreter job Sorry Papsicle, I think Barry Sanchez has his CV in for that already, being a proper scouser and all.
ratio_decidendi Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 So, Poyet has signed a new contract at Sunderland. That deserves a great sigh of relief, in my opinion.
Toadhall Saint Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 So, Poyet has signed a new contract at Sunderland. That deserves a great sigh of relief, in my opinion. I know I did SFC would never of been interested not even when we were in lg1
mcjwills Posted 28 May, 2014 Posted 28 May, 2014 Poyet signs new deal at Sunderland - good news for us. Weird, weird bloke and mostly atrocious signings. Thank god for that did not want that little weasle
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