Matthew Le God Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 This is why I like Biesla from same thread, apologies team is out of date but info very pertinent. Yesterday... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11810/9328299/ligue-1-marcelo-bielsa-appointed-as-new-marseille-head-coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Unfortunately the 1-3 bit of that 1-3-3-1-3 would concede 6 goals a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 hahaha true that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 If we do get Murat Yakin, I'm going to be convinced that Van Helsing is going to be showing up any second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 At least we've moved on from the good old days of Dowie, Jewell and Paul Hart being the favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Spoke to a guy who knows swizz football very well. Said we should avoid Yakin at all cost. Basel is almost like Celtic in Scotland, would win the league no matter who manages them. Also, Basel chose not to give him a new contract, he didn't quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood and skin Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 My bet for Saints new manger "Head Coach Ryan Huska Ryan Huska enters the 2013-14 WHL season coaching his seventh season as the Rockets head coach and coming off one of the best seasons in Kelowna Rockets history. In 2012-13 Huska guided the Rockets to the WHL BC Division championship with a 52-16-3-1 record, setting a new franchise record with 52 wins and also setting a Kelowna-record with a 23 game home winning streak. In his six seasons as head coach, the Rockets have won a WHL championship, placed second at 2009 Memorial Cup and added the BC title last season. His team's have not finished below .500. Huska is one of the most decorated amateur hockey men in Canada with four Memorial Cup championship rings to his name. He has also won a bronze and silver medal as an assistant coach with Team Canada at the World Junior Hockey Championships. As a junior player Huska was a centre with the dynasty teams in Kamloops where he won three Memorial Cup championships. He would play 247 career WHL regular season games and 155 playoff games with the Blazers. As a pro he played in the IHL, AHL and also played one game in the NHL with the Chicago Blackhawks. After retiring as a player, Huska climbed through the coaching ranks with the Rockets beginning in 2002-03 as an assistant coach before becoming the Rockets seventh head coach in history in 2007. In 2004 in Kelowna, he earned his fourth Memorial Cup and first as a coach when he was an assistant to Marc Habscheid when the Rockets won the Memorial Cup. In 2008-09 he guided the Rockets to a WHL banner and a Memorial Cup appearance as a head coach. Born in Cranbrook, he and his wife Denise have two daughters and a son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 just not moyes, please not moyes, as a manager that man personifies mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Spoke to a guy who knows swizz football very well. Said we should avoid Yakin at all cost. Basel is almost like Celtic in Scotland, would win the league no matter who manages them. Also, Basel chose not to give him a new contract, he didn't quit. Contradicts everything that was said & written previously. Should we avoid all managers from Scotland and Switzerland simply because the leagues are not as competitive as the Premiership? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 just not moyes, please not moyes, as a manager that man personifies mediocrity And what do we need? A manager that will win the league? Moyes last 8 years in the Premiership - 2006-07 6th 2007-08 5th 2008-09 5th 2009-10 8th 2010-11 7th 2011-12 7th 2012-13 6th 2013-14 7th If that personifies mediocrity id take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 just not moyes, please not moyes, as a manager that man personifies mediocrity His Everton work is to often forgotten... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Contradicts everything that was said & written previously. Should we avoid all managers from Scotland and Switzerland simply because the leagues are not as competitive as the Premiership? To be fair to him Basel have won the league the last 6 attempts or so but Grasshoppers are always close so I'm not sure how there's no competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 His Everton work is to often forgotten... He's a decent manager but his style of play and approach in no way fits how Saints are set up. Avoid like the plague please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 just not moyes, please not moyes, as a manager that man personifies mediocrity Would be bad news for strikers, Moyes is kryptonite for strikers. In all his years at Everton he only one time had a striker hit 15 prem goals. Half the time they don't even make dbl figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 And what do we need? A manager that will win the league? Moyes last 8 years in the Premiership - 2006-07 6th 2007-08 5th 2008-09 5th 2009-10 8th 2010-11 7th 2011-12 7th 2012-13 6th 2013-14 7th If that personifies mediocrity id take it. And I thought you´ve been saying that Martinez has made wonders with Everton..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 You've taken an arbitrary time period to back your current point, which is coincidentally exactly what glasgow would do. Weird that. Went back 8 years as that felt long enough to make the point. I actually left out 2004-05 where he finished 4th. Take your point about the SPL - applies I think to both players and managers although Wanyama has turned out ok. He's the exception rather than the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I don't know about Switzerland but I'd gladly avoid all managers from the SPL unless they're proven something in a proper league. Agree - its impossible to gauge how good someone is unless they have operated in a competitive league instead of a one or two horse race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 to Maybush Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 How about Thomas Tuchel from Mainz 05? He is used to working with the youth set up, and has done well with the first team since taking over there, getting them to 7th this season and qualifying for the Europa league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Spoke to a guy who knows swizz football very well. Said we should avoid Yakin at all cost. Basel is almost like Celtic in Scotland, would win the league no matter who manages them. Also, Basel chose not to give him a new contract, he didn't quit. That's a fair point except he has done pretty well in European competitions with what amounts to a minnow club at European level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 And what do we need? A manager that will win the league? Moyes last 8 years in the Premiership - 2006-07 6th 2007-08 5th 2008-09 5th 2009-10 8th 2010-11 7th 2011-12 7th 2012-13 6th 2013-14 7th If that personifies mediocrity id take it. If this is the new GS I like the change. Can't believe anyone would sniff at that record. Not to mention at least one FA Cup final as well from memory. Yes we can go on about style and system but he did get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I think we won't have a manager per se. I reckon the sacking of Dodd and Williams was to make way for an inclusive type coaching set up, with a DoF type figure, Les Reed most probably, overseeing the whole thing. Bloody hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Must admit I like the sound of this Yakin chap (although I admit I hadn't heard of him til the last day or so!), but I have a feeling that it will be Moyes that will appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I will claim a gold star if we get Sampaoli as I have been championing him (below) for a long time since the Adkins thread Nov 2012, I would also add I can't find 100% confirmation that Biesla has signed on the dotted line for Marseille, just "agreement in principle" Bielsa signed at Marseille yesterday afternoon, 2 years, Gabby Heinze as assistant. T'was in L'Equipe yesterday, they don't get basic things like that wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I think we won't have a manager per se. I reckon the sacking of Dodd and Williams was to make way for an inclusive type coaching set up, with a DoF type figure, Les Reed most probably, overseeing the whole thing. Bloody hope I'm wrong. Not so sure - have heard that Martin Hunter and those two didn't get on- it could be that the whole academy may change as TBH it works but doesnt bring any success. Many of the teams are just about developing the individuals rather than the teams winning - have watched quite a few games this year all ages and we play great technical football but get beaten a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 We nearly signed moyes all those years ago before dave jones if my memory serves me right . However Lowe remained loyal to the existing back room coaches and he wanted to bring in his guys . Lowe said no and he didn't come to us . I thought Yakin might be good but reading some more sensible posts about him I have gone of the idea a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 This makes a case for Moyes. As the article says, wind back the clock 12 months and what would Saints fans think if Moyes were available. Does he have sufficient status to convince some of teh senior players to stay? I think probably yes. Man Utd did happen of course so that can't be erased but the main question mark would be whether his style could fit with Saints'. This would be my main concern, that our style would change. But let's be realistic. We're a mid table, middle of the road premiership club with an inexperienced board and the potential for better players to up sticks. Stability is required. Moyes would provide it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/10860028/David-Moyes-should-really-be-the-only-candidate-to-replace-Mauricio-Pochettino-as-Southampton-manager.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Spoke to a guy who knows swizz football very well. Said we should avoid Yakin at all cost. Basel is almost like Celtic in Scotland, would win the league no matter who manages them. Also, Basel chose not to give him a new contract, he didn't quit. But he wasn't out of contract, he had next year too, same as Mauricio, wanted a big salary hike and better players though, can't think what for. Mutual agreement apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I am going for Ricky Lambert as player coach with big Kev his number 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Must admit I like the sound of this Yakin chap (although I admit I hadn't heard of him til the last day or so!), but I have a feeling that it will be Moyes that will appointed. My only reservation with Moyes would be whether he would be really motivated. He's been around the block a few times with bigger clubs than us and got a kicking at Man U. We would be step down for him - got to avoid another saggy going through the motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 How about Thomas Tuchel from Mainz 05? He is used to working with the youth set up, and has done well with the first team since taking over there, getting them to 7th this season and qualifying for the Europa league. He's been mentioned a few times, and would be a very good appointment as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 And what do we need? A manager that will win the league? Moyes last 8 years in the Premiership - 2006-07 6th 2007-08 5th 2008-09 5th 2009-10 8th 2010-11 7th 2011-12 7th 2012-13 6th 2013-14 7th If that personifies mediocrity id take it. Yep. He failed at Manyoo because he had ghosts and pensioners looking over his shoulders whilst having to try to please the most fair-weather glory-hunting fans on the planet. Doesnt mean he isnt a good manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I am going for Ricky Lambert as player coach with big Kev his number 2 And these players of course have their Pro-licences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 My only reservation with Moyes would be whether he would be really motivated. He's been around the block a few times with bigger clubs than us and got a kicking at Man U. We would be step down for him - got to avoid another saggy going through the motions. Course he would, he's got tons of people to prove wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Would be bad news for strikers, Moyes is kryptonite for strikers. In all his years at Everton he only one time had a striker hit 15 prem goals. Half the time they don't even make dbl figures. Well considering strikers is what we are short of the most currently, that doesnt seem to be an immediate problem. Hoddle's teams were also low scoring / low conceeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 My only reservation with Moyes would be whether he would be really motivated. He's been around the block a few times with bigger clubs than us and got a kicking at Man U. We would be step down for him - got to avoid another saggy going through the motions. After failing with Man U Moyes will need to be a sucess at his next club. He wouldn't get a job at any team that finished higher than us last season TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 My only reservation with Moyes is that his style doesn't suit the playing style that our club has been aiming for in the last few years. His name should be absolutely bottom of anybodys list. We NEED to continue attacking football. Not move to a style more befitting of 10-15 years ago that Moyes would bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 My only reservation with Moyes is that his style doesn't suit the playing style that our club has been aiming for in the last few years. His name should be absolutely bottom of anybodys list. We NEED to continue attacking football. Not move to a style more befitting of 10-15 years ago that Moyes would bring. that was with NC and his 'southampton way' stuff the new lot may just want to stay in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Looking at Moyes, what are his options? Us, WBA or Celtic or any other overseas club that might be looking. Because I am biased, I would discount WBA, so it would be between us and Celtic. if you were him, would you choose us over Celtic? Interesting that Owen Coyle seems to be favourite for Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 My only reservation with Moyes is that his style doesn't suit the playing style that our club has been aiming for in the last few years. His name should be absolutely bottom of anybodys list. We NEED to continue attacking football. Not move to a style more befitting of 10-15 years ago that Moyes would bring. 10-15 years ago? A style that has kept them in the top half for how long? What exactly is our style because its changed every manager we have had - Pardew then Adkins and the Poch so our style is what 18 months old at the latest? Do you not think that style can be found out - some clubs certainly did against us. I am not advocating Moyes but I certainly would not be unhappy with him as much as Hughton, Mackay etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Anyone got the latest odds on Stan buying a post-match round in the Guide Dog? Looking at Moyes, what are his options? Us, WBA or Celtic or any other overseas club that might be looking. Because I am biased, I would discount WBA, so it would be between us and Celtic. if you were him, would you choose us over Celtic? Interesting that Owen Coyle seems to be favourite for Celtic. IMO I doubt he will manage any Ui club soon. He's more likely to spend some time as a TV pundit and maybe manage abroad for a while, then come back to a big English club in a few years time. The only trouble for him is that the spurs vacancy will come too soon. Still ,maybe he can get it after pochettino's successor has been sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Looking at Moyes, what are his options? Us, WBA or Celtic or any other overseas club that might be looking. Because I am biased, I would discount WBA, so it would be between us and Celtic. if you were him, would you choose us over Celtic? Interesting that Owen Coyle seems to be favourite for Celtic. not sure that clubs will be falling over themselves to give Moyes a job at all myself. Probably have to wait a while or drop back a level. He's really done himself no good at all. Martinez proved that Everton are a good side and got good results with them, Moyes fecked up at Utd in a relative way of speaking. He's perhaps not as good as some might have thought before he went to Old Traff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Not sure who I would like. Still feel a bit numb with it all. Those knocking Moyes needs to take a long hard look at themselves. He was offered one of the biggest jobs in the football world. Didn't have a good time but I believe anyone following ferguson would have had the same to deal with. Yes he made mistakes but who hasn't. Remember when Strachan came he was on the back of a rough time. I quite like the manager with something to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 slowly warming to the Moyes idea, although he'd have to commit to playing our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 no wonder moyes is getting knocked. There were a few that thought Guardiola was a legitimate target before MP came in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 My only reservation with Moyes is that his style doesn't suit the playing style that our club has been aiming for in the last few years. His name should be absolutely bottom of anybodys list. We NEED to continue attacking football. Not move to a style more befitting of 10-15 years ago that Moyes would bring. Agree completely should be well down the list, only ahead of the likes of Mackay and Hughton and co. Terrible fit playing style wise and not a very good fit with the whole academy approach either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Wouldn't mind Moyes myself but can't see him wanting to move down south to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Isn't Moyes @ United not too dissimilar to Hodgson @ Liverpool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Let's just wait until after the World Cup and be ready to catch Hodgson when he jettisoned from the England job. He loves Saints! Rumours abound he has asked for a season ticket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Ronald Koeman for me Look at his manager stats! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Koeman#Managerial_career 55% win ratio in 483 games!! Thats pretty impressive, 877 goals in those games to, thats nearly as good as 2 goals a game. 3 league titles as a manager, 5 cups. Huge reputation in the game, speaks english and his agent said in March he wants to manage in england... according to the same artical he is also leaving feyenoord this summer! http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11731/9209131/ronald-koeman-keen-on-swansea-job-according-to-director-john-van-zweden Just look at some of the players that have played under him in the last 13 years!!! At Ajax Zlatan Ibrahimovic Rafael van der vaart Maxwell Wesley Sneijder Jari Litmanen Nigel De Jong At Benfica Nuno Gomes Luisao At PSV Phillip Cocu Patrick Kluivert Ibrahim Afellay Alex Jeferson Farfan Valencia Raul Albiol Santiago Canizares David Villa David Albelda Fernando Morientes Ever Banega Juan Mata Joaquin David Silva Edu Feyenoord John Guidetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZebadeeRust Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Random suggestion - ex Oxford United manager, Ramon Diaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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