DuncanRG Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Still, I would rather have a punt than go for a steady appointment. What use is consistency if it only delivers mediocrity? Exactly. You can't be scared to appoint the best managers because they might be too good for us and go at some stage. No manager stays for long these days - they either move up or get sacked. I suppose we're a bit jittery about it because of what's happened with Pochettino, but you always appoint the best manager possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Adam Lallana. That way he'd stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 But is that a problem? It's not very engratiating but it's byte way of modern football. Atletico Madrid will lose personnel. Yaya seems to be maneouvering for an exit. £50m for Luiz...! It's crap buy it's the modern game. Still, I would rather have a punt than go for a steady appointment. What use is consistency if it only delivers mediocrity? Not saying it is a problem, hence the "such is life" point at the end. Just a thought that came to mind at all, that's all. If anything, it can be used to our advantage - attract the leading lights of young European managers to showcase their ability in probably the toughest league in the world, I'm probably getting a bit carried away now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 The attraction for all those three would be to manage in a bigger, better league - we wouldn't necessarily be a bigger team for them. As long as we could contract them in such a way it guarantees at least two years then it doesn't seem like too much of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Only thing with Yakin, De Boer, Koeman or any of their ilk, would they be looking at MP and looking to follow his footsteps, looking at us as a good, well run club, a nice stepping-stone into the English game, prove themselves for 18 months then look for one of the bigger sides? Guess we're always walking that tight-rope, such is life. I'd take this. If a Saints manager is great, will probably last eighteen months to two years. If terrible, a year at best. So, come what may, at least every two years we need a new manager. If Yakin quits in two years time, he will have done a fine job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 But is that a problem? It's not very engratiating but it's byte way of modern football. Atletico Madrid will lose personnel. Yaya seems to be maneouvering for an exit. £50m for Luiz...! It's crap buy it's the modern game. Still, I would rather have a punt than go for a steady appointment. What use is consistency if it only delivers mediocrity? Is a fair point. Where would you stand on Moyes at Everton he was consistent and most would say he did a good job yet quite a few on here already saying no thanks. If he could achieve that at saints would people be happy? Get the feeling a lot of saints fans would see 10 years in around the top 6 or 7 as mediocrity these days......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager The graph icon by each number shows you change in odds over time, and also time when betting suspended. Apparently Pochettino is regularly on the blower to Diego Maradona. 66/1 is well worth a couple of quid. Tell ya one thing - that would put Saints on the world wide map in a league that is increasingly becoming world wide when it comes to TV money, merchandise sales etc... Stranger things have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Apparently Pochettino is regularly on the blower to Diego Maradona. 66/1 is well worth a couple of quid. Tell ya one thing - that would put Saints on the world wide map in a league that is increasingly becoming world wide when it comes to TV money, merchandise sales etc... Stranger things have happened. Yes I can see it now after a few tips from Diego Lambert punches one into the back of the spurs net before giving poch the finger of god:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 If we're going to start producing managers as well as players we need MP/Bale to do really well to cover our last one NA/Theo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 It means if we are going to become a stepping stone for up and coming mangers they need to do well/land good jobs when they leave to make it attractive to the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 In gibberish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Managers never seem to get appointed having spoken to the media saying how they fancy the job. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27319463 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 If we keep appointing managers who improve us and then leave after 18 months, then it shouldn't be too long until the cycle reaches its conclusion with us as European champions and the manager having nobody else to go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 If we keep appointing managers who improve us and then leave after 18 months, then it shouldn't be too long until the cycle reaches its conclusion with us as European champions and the manager having nobody else to go to. Was thinking the same thing. Anything less than 8th is a step backwards for the next one. Keep these 18 monthers coming along... Wonder if this Tottenham fan is happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Paves the way for Jason and Paul, obviously. That's why there was no mention of them being sacked on the official site! Now on a realistic note, I would be happy to see someone young and ambitious like Gary Neville, although it's probably a higher risk. To a degree I am not bothered about who, provided they play the "Saints way" that we have tried to brand for the last 18 months. Strengthen the team with 2 or 3 established players each year (max), and promote the youth when the opportunity is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGANSAINT Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I hear Glenda wants it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Apparently Pochettino is regularly on the blower to Diego Maradona. 66/1 is well worth a couple of quid. Tell ya one thing - that would put Saints on the world wide map in a league that is increasingly becoming world wide when it comes to TV money, merchandise sales etc... Stranger things have happened. No stranger things haven't happened. Although almost as strange is Terry Connor getting a listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 CUNNING PLAN: How about we spend the next few months trying to convince Luke Shaw that David Moyes is still the manager of ManU. Then we appoint Moyes as manager and spend the rest of Shaw's contract convincing him that the whole team has signed for Man Utd as part of a historic full-team transfer. There are probably some flaws in this plan - notably explaining why he's playing every other game at St. Mary's but I'm sure we can manage something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Apparently Pochettino is regularly on the blower to Diego Maradona. 66/1 is well worth a couple of quid. Tell ya one thing - that would put Saints on the world wide map in a league that is increasingly becoming world wide when it comes to TV money, merchandise sales etc... Stranger things have happened. Wasn't he going to notarf krap a few years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Apparently Pochettino is regularly on the blower to Diego Maradona. 66/1 is well worth a couple of quid. Tell ya one thing - that would put Saints on the world wide map in a league that is increasingly becoming world wide when it comes to TV money, merchandise sales etc... Stranger things have happened. Every bugle dealer south of London would move to Southampton, can just see it now, big old Diego marching sweatily up and down the touchline constantly disappearing down the tunnel for a few minutes. What could possibly go wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 It's Yakin or Howe for me. If given time, I think Howe could be our David Moyes (except the boring football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Anyone apart from Yakin and I am now going to be very disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Anyone apart from Yakin and I am now going to be very disappointed. McClaren - Director of football, PR, press relation, youth development, academy Yakin - first team coach you heard it here first (I made it all up, like most of the stuff here on the forum....some logic though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iowred&white Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Was thinking the same thing. Anything less than 8th is a step backwards for the next one. Keep these 18 monthers coming along... Wonder if this Tottenham fan is happy: just a thought, if we finished 9th next season but with a higher points total would you consider it a step backwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Alert Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 A quick thought. Roy Hodgson would know Murat Yakin well, he managed him at Grasshoppers I think and at Swiss international level too. Could he have had a hand in this link at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 just a thought, if we finished 9th next season but with a higher points total would you consider it a step backwards I'd consider it something of a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 It's Yakin or Howe for me. If given time, I think Howe could be our David Moyes (except the boring football) Where has howe proven to be any better than adkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood and skin Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I don't think we could do better than having David Moyes as our new manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Oh please - Moyes is far too defensively minded for the style of football we have grown used to playing. I'm sorry to say it but our new manager will need to be continental with a philosophy towards attacking play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Oh please - Moyes is far too defensively minded for the style of football we have grown used to playing. I'm sorry to say it but our new manager will need to be continental with a philosophy towards attacking play. Depends on what players we are left with.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I don't think we could do better than having David Moyes as our new manager I'm sure we can do far better. Moyes is totally wrong for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Oh please - Moyes is far too defensively minded for the style of football we have grown used to playing. I'm sorry to say it but our new manager will need to be continental with a philosophy towards attacking play. What he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Oh please - Moyes is far too defensively minded for the style of football we have grown used to playing. I'm sorry to say it but our new manager will need to be continental with a philosophy towards attacking play. I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Moyes has a far, far better managerial record than MP. Even last season he finished above us and was still ripped to shreds. He was one of the brightest managers in the world last summer and one average season with Man United doesnt change the fact that he's a superb manager. British managers are no longer fashionable, but id happily take Moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Moyes has a far, far better managerial record than MP. Even last season he finished above us and was still ripped to shreds. He was one of the brightest managers in the world last summer and one average season with Man United doesnt change the fact that he's a superb manager. British managers are no longer fashionable, but id happily take Moyes And with a sh!te United team to boot. He's a good manager but I'm not 100% sure his style suits our players (although pumping the ball into the box from the wings with Lambert and J Rod in there isn't such a bad idea). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Oh please - Moyes is far too defensively minded for the style of football we have grown used to playing. I'm sorry to say it but our new manager will need to be continental with a philosophy towards attacking play. Didn't we like only score 4 goals in our last 6 games or something. I know we kept the ball well but we were far from free scoring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Moyes has a far, far better managerial record than MP. Even last season he finished above us and was still ripped to shreds. He was one of the brightest managers in the world last summer and one average season with Man United doesnt change the fact that he's a superb manager. British managers are no longer fashionable, but id happily take Moyes Don't disagree with that...but to me the critical issue is that his teams simply don't play the style of football we've recently seen at Saints. Moyes is great defensively ...but about as exciting visually as a wet Sunday in Weston. Do we really want that? I don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Pep Guardiola, now that would show real intent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Didn't we like only score 4 goals in our last 6 games or something. I know we kept the ball well but we were far from free scoring... It's the style of play that Moyes plays that really would not suit our current squad, and I suspect would not suit the fans either given the feast of good football we have enjoyed watching this season. His philosophy is cautious and I think we have evolved beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 And with a sh!te United team to boot. He's a good manager but I'm not 100% sure his style suits our players (although pumping the ball into the box from the wings with Lambert and J Rod in there isn't such a bad idea). Worked for us under Adkins to some extent. Lambert was a better player under Adkins (imho) as we were more effective and quicker and getting the ball into the box & to the back post. The high press looked good and fans enjoyed it as we had the lion share of possession, but we struggled for a long-time after the defeat to Arsenal back in November and unless we signed 6-7 top players this summer I could see us doing similar again. MPs style is not sustainable for a small(ish) talent pool squad and this is probably why he's moved to Spurs. Moyes has the ability to mix it up and while he struggled at United I still think we would be very lucky to have him. If it was suggested last summer we would have signed him up no hesitation. The Man U experience will make him stronger imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgnorthSaint Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Moyes has a far, far better managerial record than MP. Even last season he finished above us and was still ripped to shreds. He was one of the brightest managers in the world last summer and one average season with Man United doesnt change the fact that he's a superb manager. British managers are no longer fashionable, but id happily take Moyes I totally agree with this ... Moyes is a man of integrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 And seriously, why ban Glasgow and let him regenerate? Probably the terms of an agreement, they said they'll ban him but he can come back as someone else as he actually didn't do anything wrong at the end except for making stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Worked for us under Adkins to some extent. Lambert was a better player under Adkins (imho) as we were more effective and quicker and getting the ball into the box & to the back post. The high press looked good and fans enjoyed it as we had the lion share of possession, but we struggled for a long-time after the defeat to Arsenal back in November and unless we signed 6-7 top players this summer I could see us doing similar again. MPs style is not sustainable for a small(ish) talent pool squad and this is probably why he's moved to Spurs. Moyes has the ability to mix it up and while he struggled at United I still think we would be very lucky to have him. If it was suggested last summer we would have signed him up no hesitation. The Man U experience will make him stronger imo Can't disagree with any of that GS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 (edited) Worked for us under Adkins to some extent. Lambert was a better player under Adkins (imho) as we were more effective and quicker and getting the ball into the box & to the back post. The high press looked good and fans enjoyed it as we had the lion share of possession, but we struggled for a long-time after the defeat to Arsenal back in November and unless we signed 6-7 top players this summer I could see us doing similar again. MPs style is not sustainable for a small(ish) talent pool squad and this is probably why he's moved to Spurs. Moyes has the ability to mix it up and while he struggled at United I still think we would be very lucky to have him. If it was suggested last summer we would have signed him up no hesitation. The Man U experience will make him stronger imo Mix it up, Glasgow? Nonexistent movement and pummeling cross after cross into the box. What was it- 81 against Fulham? Moyes is a decent manager but its as much about 'fit' as anything. Moyes doesn't fit our system -and how our team has been very successfully trained to set up and play. If there were faults with our system, they were not fundamental. Its about finding a manager who can work with the grain of it, not outside it. Edited 28 May, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LainPain Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Article from the mirror with 8 suggested candidates: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/next-southampton-manager-8-managers-3612454 Not too shabby a list. Wouldn't mind Laudrup, would only stay for a year or two but would enhance our reputation in Europe and he showed he can win a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamRed Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I don't know why people are mentioning Eddie Howe. He's great at a small club like Bournemouth, but as soon as he went somewhere bigger he made a bit of a pigs ear of it. In no way is he qualified to manage a Premier League side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeage Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 My mate's take on one of the current favourites: Sounds like a cheap brand of yoghurt you may find in the back of the fridge in your local corner shop. “Sorry, darling. They didn’t have any Muller Fruit Corners so I got you some Murat Yakin.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Mix it up, Glasgow? Nonexistent movement and pummeling cross after cross into the box. What was it- 81 against Fulham? Moyes is a decent manager but its as much about 'fit' as anything. Moyes doesn't fit our system -and how our team has been very successfully trained to set up and play. If there were faults with our system, they were not fundamental. Its about finding a manager who can work with the grain of it, not outside it. And not just the first team. ALL the saints squads are set up to play attacking 4231 through our the age groups. Getting a manager that prefers different tactics woul be a ludicrous backwards step. Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 Anyone apart from Yakin and I am now going to be very disappointed. I am amazed at the mass hysteria on here about Yakin. He may well be a good manager, and if he is appointed I won't complain ,but really, what are you all basing this enthusiasm on? He has done well so far in a very short managerial career in Switzerland ...... ....that's Switzerland for goodness sake. Is their league even up to Scottish standards?.... and yes his team once beat Chelsea. I'd be happy enough with any of the *big* foreign names mentioned , but to be honest I'd really prefer a British manager ....someone who shares our cultural standards, or at least understands them. To read people on here slagging off the likes of McLaren, who was once rated as the best young manager in England, or Moyes ... once considered good enough to become Man united's manager ... beggars belief. No one is completely flawless, or let's face it, they wouldn't be available for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 28 May, 2014 Share Posted 28 May, 2014 I don't know why people are mentioning Eddie Howe. He's great at a small club like Bournemouth, but as soon as he went somewhere bigger he made a bit of a pigs ear of it. In no way is he qualified to manage a Premier League side. He is a promising young manager to be fair, and he might well turn out to be a good PL manager, but he supposedly turned us down a couple of years ago, and then went to Burnley where he wasn't very happy, so returned to Bournemouth, so why would he come here now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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