Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 And his record at FC Twente doesn't bare consideration either? A Middlesbrough fan I worked with was devastated when he left the Riverside, we could do far, far worse then appoint him. He would continue to put across an ethos of technically good attacking play while also bringing through our academy players into the first team. Personally feel that after pochettino, having mcclaren would be like going back to the dark ages. Really would not welcome him at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 27 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 27 May, 2014 seconded (colinjbs response).......Mclaren has done wonders at Derby in his short time there and has brought through a large number of younger players. We'll see, would still love (even if pie in the sky) for Frank de Boer to come here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Personally feel that after pochettino' date=' having mcclaren would be like going back to the dark ages. Really would not welcome him at the club.[/quote'] I would welcome any manager who comes here as that is the Southampton Way (or at least it should be). However McClaren would be far from my first choice. Sackings of international managers will be rampant after (even during) the World Cup, perhaps we could hold fire for a few weeks & pick up a beauty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Personally feel that after pochettino' date=' having mcclaren would be like going back to the dark ages. Really would not welcome him at the club.[/quote'] i dare say he's a good coach, I mean I have no idea but that's what they always say on talksport, but he ain't the Leader Of Men that I'm looking for. He ain't got the charisma or force of personality or whatever. Also his hair is a massive own-goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I would not mind McLaren at all Feel he has bundles to prove in this country and a more rounded coach after stints on the continent he has won a major trophy in this country also and got that team to a major european final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Benali with Christer Warren as assistant would be better than some of these names mentioned. What a comedown from Pochettino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Alex McLeish has won one more recently. How about him? dont like the way he plays, he is very much a 1 up top, 10 men behind the ball and shut up shop man, more like moyes than MoPo I feel that McLaren would be a better suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I would not mind McLaren at all Feel he has bundles to prove in this country and a more rounded coach after stints on the continent he has won a major trophy in this country also and got that team to a major european final He lost a lot of credibility after his England stint and his laughable accent attempts, but he's a good manager and his domestic record speaks for itself. Not the most fashionable (no English managers are these days) but I wouldn’t be too disappointed by his arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 He lost a lot of credibility after his England stint and his laughable accent attempts, but he's a good manager and his domestic record speaks for itself. Not the most fashionable (no English managers are these days) but I wouldn’t be too disappointed by his arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Klinsmann remains my favourite option,followed by Roberto Di Mateo. No one else really inspires me I'm afraid. Well anyone that is a plausible acquisition. . Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Thanks MLG - interesting article. So that would almost certainly be an area to concentrate on in the interview ! (if true). Surely our board would would be able to quiz that out of him - I have full confidence in Hans, Gaz, Kat, Les and Ralph. And even if half of that is true I'd still take that over Chris Hougton - they murdered us at St Marys last year (our flukiest win of the season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 He lost a lot of credibility after his England stint and his laughable accent attempts, but he's a good manager and his domestic record speaks for itself. Not the most fashionable (no English managers are these days) but I wouldn’t be too disappointed by his arrival. Nope to anyone living in this ****'s shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Worth remembering that McClaren has failed in his previous 3 jobs before Derby: Forest, Wolfsburg and Twente second time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Just total speculation on my part but I have a feeling the new manager will be German, or German speaking (if I go on the recent Germanic board appointments of Hofstetter and Krüger). What is interesting but is probably in no way related is that Thomas Tuchel at Mainz effectively stepped down from his position a few days ago. The Mainz chairman is however refusing to terminate Tuchel's contract. This seems to suggest that Tuchel felt he need to make himself available yet the Mainz chairman knows that someone is interested in Tuchel and thus will not terminate his contract as he is hoping that Tuchels prospective new club will buy him out of the contract. This is of course pure guess work and Tuchel did say that he had planned to leave Mainz since last autumn. In any case, the guy has had a lot of success at a club in a similar position to Saints and qualified this season for the the Europa league (something MoPo couldn't do but will no doubt do at Spurs next season!). Would be a very exciting appointment imo (Tuchel has by many accounts been a greater success at Mainz than Klopp was). Hmmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Poch is a good manager. Not in Mourinho or Benitez's league, but a step up from the likes of Adkins and Poyet. Suitable for a mid table premier league club. If I was a Spur's fan, I'd therefore be disappointed. From our point of view, he did a good, solid job, arguably slightly overachieving with the squad he had to work with. Plenty of other managers would have done just as well. The main problem with him leaving for us, then, is the effect on continuity. It'll be a fresh start next season, and results might initially not be as good as they would've been if we'd kept the same setup throughout the summer, just because the new management time will need time to settle in. If I was on the board, I'd therefore be tempted to go for a like for like replacement, and if possible someone with slightly more pedigree than Poch at the same or slightly higher level. The obvious choice would therefore be AVB (how ironic!). If we can't attract our first choice due to limited funds being available and star players leaving, I'd say someone like Steve McLaren or Steve Bruce would be a sensible appointment. As this is Saints, however, and we seem to enjoy being a bit left-field these days, I wouldn't rule out the club holding talks with Moyes. He was set up to fail at Man U, so it'd be fairer to judge him on what he did at Everton, where he brought through some really good youth players, had a good relationship with everyone at the club, not least the squad, and consistently over-achieved season after season to build them up to genuine European contenders. In this respect, he'd be a perfect fit. And before anyone starts spitting their coffee about how disgraced he's become, cast your minds back to Hoddle & WGS when they joined us. Both had fallen from grace previously and were regarded as a gamble at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Poch is a good manager. Not in Mourinho or Benitez's league, but a step up from the likes of Adkins and Poyet. Suitable for a mid table premier league club. If I was a Spur's fan, I'd therefore be disappointed. From our point of view, he did a good, solid job, arguably slightly overachieving with the squad he had to work with. Plenty of other managers would have done just as well. The main problem with him leaving for us, then, is the effect on continuity. It'll be a fresh start next season, and results might initially not be as good as they would've been if we'd kept the same setup throughout the summer, just because the new management time will need time to settle in. If I was on the board, I'd therefore be tempted to go for a like for like replacement, and if possible someone with slightly more pedigree than Poch at the same or slightly higher level. The obvious choice would therefore be AVB (how ironic!). If we can't attract our first choice due to limited funds being available and star players leaving, I'd say someone like Steve McLaren or Steve Bruce would be a sensible appointment. As this is Saints, however, and we seem to enjoy being a bit left-field these days, I wouldn't rule out the club holding talks with Moyes. He was set up to fail at Man U, so it'd be fairer to judge him on what he did at Everton, where he brought through some really good youth players, had a good relationship with everyone at the club, not least the squad, and consistently over-achieved season after season to build them up to genuine European contenders. In this respect, he'd be a perfect fit. And before anyone starts spitting their coffee about how disgraced he's become, cast your minds back to Hoddle & WGS when they joined us. Both had fallen from grace previously and were regarded as a gamble at the time. Good post, you've changed my mind Moyes wouldn't be all that bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 It's going to be Murat Yakin. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Alex Smith @Alex_PJ_Smith · 13m I can now say that the manager candidate we spoke to was former Basel boss Murat Yakin. #saintsfc Would be a superb replacement, my only worry is that I think he'll be like Pochettino by seeing us as a stepping stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Yakin I'd be happy with but at the moment it just sounds like a suggestion that would make sense but I'm not sure the board will move for him. That said there is talk on twitter that some journo's have spoken to him about possibly being available for it and they will post quotes soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I'm actually quite looking forward to finding out who the (new) manager will be next season. The club is doing really well at the moment and I think there will be some exciting names interested in taking the club forward. If we have to lose a couple of players then obviously that hurts but we'll bounce back, always have done so far. If I was advising Pochettino I'd say wait for a club where the ratio of potential to expectation is more in his favour, but I still think he will do well there, if they give him a decent chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I've got my rose tinted glasses on...... Saints have played a blinder. Management decided that MP wasn't the best, lined up another manager while letting MP leave and paying us compensation to do so. Only problem is if the squad goes as well!! Rose tinted glasses off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Course it does, I didn't say otherwise. I don't understand what 'a fan I know' adds to things though, as all fans have different views. What if that fan was Alpine? It doesn't mean anything. He did very well at Twente but it was quite a while ago and since then he's struggled going back there, struggled at Wolfsburg and had an awful time at Forest. I'm not trying to knock the guy, I like seeing people come back and prove people wrong, but that clearly involves staying at Derby. I don't like seeing the rush to leave everywhere the minute you have any modicum of success, and let's face it, his success was a failure this season. If he stays at Derby then good luck to him and I hope he gets them up next season. I get your point, but a fan of Middlesbrough is likely to have far more insight into his own club then one looking in from afar. And yes from McClaren's perspective staying at Derby would have merit. With my selfish Saints hat on though I still maintain that he would be a great option for us, I respect your contrary opinion mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 If we get Yakin, that will be a coup d'état the CIA would be proud of: http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/17/tottenham-have-contacted-me-over-vacant-post-claims-basle-coach-murat-yakin-4234697/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I've changed my mind again and decided I want Xavi player-manager. Old Barca players are all the rage. We'd end up with Ronnie Ekelund... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Im not sure if anyone has mentioned this chap.....he has the right attitude and could attract some big name stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 There are only two rules to running a football club: 1. Never replace a manager unless you know you have someone better lined up. 2. Never sell a good - settled - player. You will never be able to guarantee replacing him, no matter how many players you buy with the earnings. Are our owners and Krueger running a good club? Time will tell. But all I could think of this morning when I heard MP was about to leave was 'shalallalalalalala...who's ****ing laughing now?' Finally, the Guardian report makes it clear that MP was leaving as the ownership did not share MPs ambition (& ours) to kick on to the next level. It also stated that our owners failed to guarantee they wouldn't sell anyone ( or should I say cash in?) If this is true - and we can but speculate at this stage - then our owners have had their honeymoon. It's time to sell the club and bring back Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Im not sure if anyone has mentioned this chap.....he has the right attitude and could attract some big name stars. Charlie attracts but 2 things, tarts and trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Octopus Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Spud fans crying out for RB, not happy about MP and think he won't last long. Would be hilarious if we got RB as a replacement and MP failed there. Mind you they would probably try to get RB off us at xmas. Not that I'm expecting us to get RB, just thought it would be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Oh and I meant to put (in the post above) that my choice would be Moyes. He will be hungry to prove himself and will have the strength of character to refuse to sell anyone. We need a strong manager who can bring on the young players. And we need one now before our owners allow the exodus to begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Alex Smith @Alex_PJ_Smith · 13m I can now say that the manager candidate we spoke to was former Basel boss Murat Yakin. #saintsfc Would be a superb replacement, my only worry is that I think he'll be like Pochettino by seeing us as a stepping stone. Can someone expand on this? Who is Alex Smith, and is this an ITK that we are/have spoken to candidates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 As this is Saints, however, and we seem to enjoy being a bit left-field these days, I wouldn't rule out the club holding talks with Moyes. He was set up to fail at Man U, so it'd be fairer to judge him on what he did at Everton, where he brought through some really good youth players, had a good relationship with everyone at the club, not least the squad, and consistently over-achieved season after season to build them up to genuine European contenders. In this respect, he'd be a perfect fit. And before anyone starts spitting their coffee about how disgraced he's become, cast your minds back to Hoddle & WGS when they joined us. Both had fallen from grace previously and were regarded as a gamble at the time. Moyes would be an poor choice and not because he's disgraced but because he in no way fits with the notion of continuity in terms of approach, style, youth focus etc. It would be akin to chucking everything out the window. He'll no doubt do ok if he chooses a club that matches his approach. I'd expect to see him pop up at Newcastle/Sunderland eventually or Celtic if he wants glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Can someone expand on this? Who is Alex Smith, and is this an ITK that we are/have spoken to candidates? Leads one to asking the question why do we have candidates for a job that is not officially vacant, or is MP long gone having paid his 2 million £ and no-one thought to mention it. Yakin quit Basle a while back, a week, maybe 2, did we lead him on to do that or was it just a good idea to him at the time. Probably just more tweetbolloax anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Leads one to asking the question why do we have candidates for a job that is not officially vacant, or is MP long gone having paid his 2 million £ and no-one thought to mention it. Yakin quit Basle a while back, a week, maybe 2, did we lead him on to do that or was it just a good idea to him at the time. Probably just more tweetbolloax anyway. Yep. Although if the board's view was that MP wouldn't sign - or would only do so if he wasn't offered the Spurs role - then it would make sens to have initial discussions with potential replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Can someone expand on this? Who is Alex Smith, and is this an ITK that we are/have spoken to candidates? He is a work experience nipper at Crook's place. He phoned around a load of the supposed candidates and Yakin has apparantly spoken to him. He doesnt have a job so would expect he has said something along the lines of, "I have always wanted to manage in the Premier League so we will see what happens." However, I thought someone said he doesnt speak English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Woy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Joe Batchelor @Joe_Batchelor 1m . @alex_crook will be breaking the quotes from Murat Yakin on @talkSPORTDrive at around 6pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 yakin reminds me of patrick colleter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Mancini seen in a Southampton restaurant. Got this from 2 sources and reading the attached extract from the Daily Mail in March makes sense.. Mancini's advisors are already planning for life away from Istanbul, should the manager leave this summer. It is understood the former Sampdoria and Lazio forward is willing to return to the Barclays Premier League this summer, should the right opportunity arise. Mancini's proven track record in England's top flight means he is likely to be among the contenders for any top-flight jobs that become available this summer. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2591693/Roberto-Mancini-eyeing-Premier-League-escape-route-pressure-grows-Galatasaray-boss.html#ixzz32vrkToQg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 (edited) Mancini seen in a Southampton restaurant. Got this from 2 sources and reading the attached extract from the Daily Mail in March makes sense.. Mancini's advisors are already planning for life away from Istanbul, should the manager leave this summer. It is understood the former Sampdoria and Lazio forward is willing to return to the Barclays Premier League this summer, should the right opportunity arise. Mancini's proven track record in England's top flight means he is likely to be among the contenders for any top-flight jobs that become available this summer. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2591693/Roberto-Mancini-eyeing-Premier-League-escape-route-pressure-grows-Galatasaray-boss.html#ixzz32vrkToQg Good. Mean's he's hungry, which I recall is something we like. Interesting - but would we REALLY be able to attract such a name? And would we want him....he hasn't really done great things lately. Edited 27 May, 2014 by Suhari A further thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Was it Shirley McDonald's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 (edited) Simon Peach @SimonPeach 2m At my laptop & ready to work... #letthegamesbegin Gordon Simpson @gordonsimpson 1m @SimonPeach a busy night begins Edited 27 May, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Was it Shirley McDonald's? no frannies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I think half the people on this forum don't quite understand yet how much of an unbelievably fantastic appointment Yakin would be. Worked wonders at Basel and his style of football is absolutely fantastic and should lead to the majority of our players thriving under it. Him and De Boer are the only two appointments that I wouldn't see as a step-back and could even be portrayed as a step forward. Exciting times if these Yakin quotes are positive, very hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 I think half the people on this forum don't quite understand yet how much of an unbelievably fantastic appointment Yakin would be. Worked wonders at Basel and his style of football is absolutely fantastic and should lead to the majority of our players thriving under it. Him and De Boer are the only two appointments that I wouldn't see as a step-back and could even be portrayed as a step forward. Exciting times if these Yakin quotes are positive, very hopeful. Have to admit I don't know too much about him. WHy would he be such a great appointment? I know Basel beat Chelski twice in the CL and that is an achievement, but what else makes you so keen? (Honest question - not a saracastic one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Its obviously not Yakin then if he has spoken to an intern in the local paper as I can't see the club being keen on that much like Spurs with De Boer, or maybe knowing these guys they spoke to Hakan Yakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Its obviously not Yakin then if he has spoken to an intern in the local paper as I can't see the club being keen on that much like Spurs with De Boer, or maybe knowing these guys they spoke to Hakan Yakin. Remember this? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/7974725/Phil-Brown-eager-to-replace-Alan-Pardew-as-Southampton-manager.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Its obviously not Yakin then if he has spoken to an intern in the local paper as I can't see the club being keen on that much like Spurs with De Boer, or maybe knowing these guys they spoke to Hakan Yakin. He works for a media agency which sells stories to the national media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach 2m At my laptop & ready to work... #letthegamesbegin Gordon Simpson @gordonsimpson 1m @SimonPeach a busy night begins Of course this could be reference to the deck of cards about to collapse at Saints as opposed to something positive. Fingers crossed for something good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 Of course this could be reference to the deck of cards about to collapse at Saints as opposed to something positive. Fingers crossed for something good. Clearly it's about Pochettino leaving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 May, 2014 Share Posted 27 May, 2014 He works for a media agency which sells stories to the national media. it's only crooky's outfit ain't it? I mean we're not talking Reuters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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