Mallagroth Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Well to get back somewhere near on topic, it looked to me like Adam was waving goodbye on the walk round. I think he's gone. See the man utd post match report. What we saw in Northam/Kingsland corner was a bit more decisive depending on how much you read into these things.
nta786 Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 @talkSAINTS: Krueger on Lallana: "Nothing has occurred that we need to communicate. There will be conversations with clubs. That's part of the business." That can't be good :-( Nothing wrong with that- If Liverpool offered a ridiculous amount of money, you'd take it. Might as well see what Liverpool want to offer eh On another note- Barry, you've had a shocker. Celeebrate, good times, come on!
St Chalet Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Surely the mods don't need any more evidence than this! We phoned Martin O'Neil in Winchester, luckily Michael Owen picked up the phone and said he thought it was a wind up.
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 I'd be really surprised if we were willing to talk to Liverpool at the £20 million mark. If we don't need to sell then we shouldn't be talking to clubs until they are at £30-£35 million mark offering a deal that is too good for us to turn down. £20 million is nowhere near enough and i hope we play hardball if we need to. Some on here will say he is not worth £30-£40 milion but if the big clubs want our best players we should make them pay over the odds or say no deal
St Chalet Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Many in Liverpool Echo comments section saying he'd be a good addition, but £15m appears to be their view. When do they propose to buy the other half?
nta786 Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 Many in Liverpool Echo comments section saying he'd be a good addition, but £15m appears to be their view. When do they propose to buy the other half? £15m for one of his feet. They'll have to cough up.
CanadaSaint Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 It's not difficult to foresee a situation in which clubs aren't willing to meet our valuation - especially with the Bournemouth cut being such a key factor, so I'd say the odds are on him staying even if he'd like to go. And I don't think he's the sort to go sulky on the club if things don't work out.
pap Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 I haven't heard any open secrets up in Liverpool concerning Lallana, but I've heard a lot of speculation since getting back to Southampton, none of it good.
manji Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 He was in Woolton on Friday looking at houses I can tell you that much, its a done deal. Im presuming thats a typo and you mean Woolston. Im sure he could do better than that with the pay rise Krueger is going to give him.
sydneysaint17 Posted 11 May, 2014 Posted 11 May, 2014 My view is that we'd do better saying Coutinho + cash non negotiable. 1) Bournemouth see far less money 2) Ready made replacement with proven PL experience 3) Poch finally gets his man 4) Value will be peaking by the end of his contract Only foreseeable issue is that Coutinho's been pretty decent this year and Liverpool would almost certainly not let him go! Worth a go though
pangy Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 My brother in law had tickets for hospitality at Liverpool yesterday,he said in the Q&A John Aldridge said the Lallana deal is pretty much done. He said he had to be refrained by my sister from throwing bread rolls at him :-)
Saint Charlie Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 So Adam Blackmore (Solent) said he is 100% sure that Liverpool have made a bid. Makes Krueger's comments bizarre if so.
Wes Tender Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 So Adam Blackmore (Solent) said he is 100% sure that Liverpool have made a bid. Makes Krueger's comments bizarre if so. Perhaps it went straight into the waste paper bin.
Weston Saint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 So Adam Blackmore (Solent) said he is 100% sure that Liverpool have made a bid. Makes Krueger's comments bizarre if so.I woke up to this quote from Adam Blackmore and as he is highly respected by the Lallana family there may be something in it but it would not have come from Adam or his father because of what I posted yesterday. The club has said no official bid when the Chairman spoke yesterday. Are they being economical with the truth? As much as I also like Adam Blackmore as a journalist & broadcaster I am going to stick with what I have been told. However, I think there is no doubt a bid will come in and it will be interesting to see how the club deal with it. If Lallana and/or Shaw go it will be because they are impatient for the next level now. We know they are ready. It would be nice if they stay but if they go it does not make us a selling club any more that Spurs, Arsenal or many other top European clubs who fail to hold onto their talent. I would be more concerned with our future path if some of our yet undeveloped talent is sold on.
CWD Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Well we'd be mad to sell before the WC so not bothered just yet.
alpine_saint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 If anything happens before the WC, we have the wrong board...
farawaysaint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 (edited) .... Edited 12 May, 2014 by farawaysaint Wrong thread, I wondered where that went.
Saint-Beer Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Get Poch to sign that contract today and give Adam a 1 year extension with a pay rise ! Come on saints, please fight to keep Adam.
Give it to Ron Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 If anything happens before the WC, we have the wrong board... I sort of agree with you but....what if he has a JayRod type injury? Adam is at his highest peak now...the club is desperate for funds can they take the chance? We are nowhere near having the investment needed to kick on - so just maybe we have to accept that the player wants to go and now is the right time - no way under 30m though for either him or Shaw
Cricketphilly Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 If Henderson was worth 30 mill, how much for Lallana?
Nolan Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 The club isn't desperate for funds at all. Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
Baird of the land Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 If anything happens before the WC, we have the wrong board... Immediate test of whether Krueger and Co are a bunch of idiots.
Dan Johnson Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Adam was terrrifc for 2 seasons in league 1 & in the Championship, he was OK last season. To pay £20+ million for a player who has had 1 very good season in the Premier League is a massive gamble on Liverpools part. I question his posistional sense as he drifts inside way to often when asked to play out wide, during our championship year & last season he left Danny Fox massively exposed on numerous occasions. He gets away with it a little more now as he had a world class left back behind him. He certainly fades massively in the second half of games, it's no coincidence he is the most subbed player in the premier league this season. £20+ Million is massive money for Lallana, make no mistake it's a gamble on Liverpools part. 1 good season does not a player make...
farawaysaint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Adam was terrrifc for 2 seasons in league 1 & in the Championship, he was OK last season. To pay £20+ million for a player who has had 1 very good season in the Premier League is a massive gamble on Liverpools part. I question his posistional sense as he drifts inside way to often when asked to play out wide, during our championship year & last season he left Danny Fox massively exposed on numerous occasions. He gets away with it a little more now as he had a world class left back behind him. He certainly fades massively in the second half of games, it's no coincidence he is the most subbed player in the premier league this season. £20+ Million is massive money for Lallana, make no mistake it's a gamble on Liverpools part. 1 good season does not a player make... Well... that was mostly drivel.
Bucks Saint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Adam was terrrifc for 2 seasons in league 1 & in the Championship, he was OK last season. To pay £20+ million for a player who has had 1 very good season in the Premier League is a massive gamble on Liverpools part. I question his posistional sense as he drifts inside way to often when asked to play out wide, during our championship year & last season he left Danny Fox massively exposed on numerous occasions. He gets away with it a little more now as he had a world class left back behind him. He certainly fades massively in the second half of games, it's no coincidence he is the most subbed player in the premier league this season. £20+ Million is massive money for Lallana, make no mistake it's a gamble on Liverpools part. 1 good season does not a player make... Ox. I season in L1.
Give it to Ron Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Adam was terrrifc for 2 seasons in league 1 & in the Championship, he was OK last season. To pay £20+ million for a player who has had 1 very good season in the Premier League is a massive gamble on Liverpools part. I question his posistional sense as he drifts inside way to often when asked to play out wide, during our championship year & last season he left Danny Fox massively exposed on numerous occasions. He gets away with it a little more now as he had a world class left back behind him. He certainly fades massively in the second half of games, it's no coincidence he is the most subbed player in the premier league this season. £20+ Million is massive money for Lallana, make no mistake it's a gamble on Liverpools part. 1 good season does not a player make... Good post - although I would say its was terrific season rather than good as he has been brilliant.
simo Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Adam was terrrifc for 2 seasons in league 1 & in the Championship, he was OK last season. To pay £20+ million for a player who has had 1 very good season in the Premier League is a massive gamble on Liverpools part. I question his posistional sense as he drifts inside way to often when asked to play out wide, during our championship year & last season he left Danny Fox massively exposed on numerous occasions. He gets away with it a little more now as he had a world class left back behind him. He certainly fades massively in the second half of games, it's no coincidence he is the most subbed player in the premier league this season. £20+ Million is massive money for Lallana, make no mistake it's a gamble on Liverpools part. 1 good season does not a player make... Lol
alpine_saint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Well... that was mostly drivel. I dunno, its an argument to consider. I think 20m is f**king joke, and typical of the permanent air of arrogance that has always existed over Anfield. 30m plus Bournemouths cut, I'd be ready to talk terms.
Bewildered Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Adam was terrrifc for 2 seasons in league 1 & in the Championship, he was OK last season. To pay £20+ million for a player who has had 1 very good season in the Premier League is a massive gamble on Liverpools part. I question his posistional sense as he drifts inside way to often when asked to play out wide, during our championship year & last season he left Danny Fox massively exposed on numerous occasions. He gets away with it a little more now as he had a world class left back behind him. He certainly fades massively in the second half of games, it's no coincidence he is the most subbed player in the premier league this season. £20+ Million is massive money for Lallana, make no mistake it's a gamble on Liverpools part. 1 good season does not a player make... Ray Houghton posts on here?
Give it to Ron Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 The club isn't desperate for funds at all. Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk Really....have you not been reading what has been coming out of the club recently not whats in the press but the financial people?
Crowds Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Told the club and Mauricio he wants to leave last week while on top, visibly a hard decision apparently.... thinks the times right as he might not get this opportunity again. You can't blame the lad
Nolan Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Really....have you not been reading what has been coming out of the club recently not whats in the press but the financial people? We've paid over the odds for players recently. The only way to get people to know you won't go as high in future is to do what has been done.
Baird of the land Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Circa 40M would be the value i'd consider acceptable. The rumoured 20m is an utter joke.
Sour Mash Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Really....have you not been reading what has been coming out of the club recently not whats in the press but the financial people? I've been reading it, where and when have we suggested we're desperate for funds?
alpine_saint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Told the club and Mauricio he wants to leave last week while on top, visibly a hard decision apparently.... thinks the times right as he might not get this opportunity again. You can't blame the lad No-one is blaming the lad. At all. If he goes, we will all wish him well. I blame the lack of ambition in the board and owner. Maybe she should have flogged us to someone interested enough to keep the momentum going. I understand Adam to Liverpool more than Shaw to Manyoo, who have no manager and no European football to tempt him with. I just hope Adam doesnt get splinters in his bum from sitting on the bench
SO16_Saint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Good players leave clubs all the time, for varying reasons - both for the club and the player. It doesn't necessarily mean that the Club has a lack of ambition or are in financial difficulties. If a player wants to move on and "further their career" - so be it. Lallana has been a great servant to the club, and the club have repaid him with a good salary and making him Captain. If the club can get £30M+ and the player can get a good move, then go for it - move on.
Give it to Ron Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 We've paid over the odds for players recently. The only way to get people to know you won't go as high in future is to do what has been done. Ok but think you may be taking an ostrich point of view there - "we inherited a financial mess..." doesnt mean anything to me about transfers. Did we really pay over the odds? People on here were questiong 6-7m for JayRod look how much he is worth. We are demanding £30m approx for an 18 year old...we signed internationals.
Give it to Ron Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 I've been reading it, where and when have we suggested we're desperate for funds? Go and read it again.....you obviously missed it but not surprised
Dan Johnson Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Well... that was mostly drivel. He has been exceptional, don't get me wrong I'd be gutted if we lost him, but if someone said we'd get £20+ million for him at the start of the season they would probably have laughed in your face. Ox. I season in L1. True but he was allot younger than Lallana, almost 10 years so. Good post - although I would say it was terrific season rather than good as he has been brilliant. Agreed, no one saw it coming either. Maybe I'm being harsh on Lallana, but when I think about £20million+ players I want to see proven consistency at the highest level, this season aside he's not shown that, granted for most of those seasons he was playing outside of the top flight. If MoPo agrees to their sales as long as he gets all the funds and we get £20m+ for him, £27m+ for shaw, £10m for Osvaldo and we're left with a £60million+ war chest I think we're be better off next season.
Sour Mash Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 No-one is blaming the lad. At all. If he goes, we will all wish him well. I blame the lack of ambition in the board and owner. Maybe she should have flogged us to someone interested enough to keep the momentum going. I understand Adam to Liverpool more than Shaw to Manyoo, who have no manager and no European football to tempt him with. I just hope Adam doesnt get splinters in his bum from sitting on the bench You think there is a queue of investors that want to buy the club and invest in us to the point of competing for a Champions League place?
Nolan Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Ok but think you may be taking an ostrich point of view there - "we inherited a financial mess..." doesnt mean anything to me about transfers. Did we really pay over the odds? People on here were questiong 6-7m for JayRod look how much he is worth. We are demanding £30m approx for an 18 year old...we signed internationals. The "financial mess" certainly wasn't displayed when the clubs accounts were revealed. Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
farawaysaint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 You think there is a queue of investors that want to buy the club and invest in us to the point of competing for a Champions League place? City, Chelsea, Pool, all bigger than us yes, but It could happen... Maybe
alpine_saint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 You think there is a queue of investors that want to buy the club and invest in us to the point of competing for a Champions League place? Not a queue, no. But we are a great club on paper and an attractive proposition to anyone already looking for a club to bring to such levels. Why did a sheik want Man City, FFS ? What did they have going for them back then ?
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Got to be more than $30M for Lallana taking a line off Fellaini and Henderson. Hard one though - wish him all the best and wouldn't want him to stay if his heart wasn't in it. Can Saints make top 4 next year?
RedWillie Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Look, players come and go as sure as night and day happen. Yes it's disappointing , yes frustrating but there is jack all we can do about it. It's enivitable after the season we have had. Put yourselves in the same position, European football, pay rise, set up for life etc, etc. the club will still be here in August, maybe a few different players. Well just have different names to cheer.
saintbob40 Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 Don't worry Sir Les Reed has got it all under control and no one will leave. I know because he told us so and I believe everything I am told....
saint_ed Posted 12 May, 2014 Posted 12 May, 2014 No-one is blaming the lad. At all. If he goes, we will all wish him well. I blame the lack of ambition in the board and owner. Maybe she should have flogged us to someone interested enough to keep the momentum going. I actually agree with you Alpine. I am not having a reactionary response, however I regretfully have little faith in Krueger and the boards future plans. I have been sitting back trying to take in all the OFFICIAL information we are fed. This is not based on anything ITK, purely my interpretation. My career background has fortunately enabled me to see the wood from the trees amongst a world full of PR curve balls and ulterior motives. I believe the club has completely underestimated how close we are to really kicking on to create a legacy for this club with what I believe is our golden generation spanning the last few years. Perhaps this is where the lack of football experience among our executive board members will come into play. There's only so many times Les and MoPo can say otherwise...arguably the reason for Poch lack of long term commitment?! Personally I couldn't care less if the club brings back the stripes etc, however it is exactly this move that the club are being over reliant on to appease fans for the impending 'stabilisation' period. I genuinely hope I am proved very wrong but I suspect I wont be.
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