kpturner Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 Not really, was hoping we would sell Lallana for £28m and buy Shaquriri for £18m Are Bayern Munich up for selling him then? Even if they were, he is hardly likely to jump at the chance is he?
Graffito Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 I haven't been watching the Switzerland/Honduras game tonight, but in the first game, Shaquiri really wasn't very good at all. I'm not convinced. In the second game he was very good.
SaintRobbie Posted 25 June, 2014 Posted 25 June, 2014 Saints legend or uninspiring Liverpool short term journeyman? What would you chose?
AussieDog Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 I'm undecided on whether it's in Saints best interest to let Lallana go. Everyone has a price. 25 million (minus the Bournemouth kick-back) is still extremely good business. I have always thought he would grow into a key premiership player, even when he was a skinny 16 year old in the ressies. His natural skill was always there to see, but it was whether he could cope with the physicality and pace of the game at the highest level. I think he is deceptively quick, especially over short bursts, plus he has that quickness of feet that allows him to bamboozle the opposition at times. He also work bloody hard most of the time. Replacing him is do-able, but I have no idea who with. I know he hasn't had the best of World cups, but maybe that isn't all his fault - maybe he has been playing to his coaches instructions. He excels in our pressing type of game and when he has the option of interchanging with other players. Didn't see too much evidence of that from the England team.
hutch Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 Are Bayern Munich up for selling him then? Even if they were, he is hardly likely to jump at the chance is he? What a daft question. This is Liverpool we're talking about. It's got nothing to do with Bayern Munich.
Saint Charlie Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/shaqiri-is-close-to-joining-liverpool-the-latest/ Will this have an impact? Surely they don't need Sterling, Coutinho, Shaqiri and Lallana?
Olallana Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 What do you people think Liverpool fans prefer at the moment? Lallana for £25-30m or Shaqiri for £15-20m??
Bucks Saint Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 What do you people think Liverpool fans prefer at the moment? Lallana for £25-30m or Shaqiri for £15-20m?? The sensible ones (yes, I know) want lovren for 15-20m because thats where they really need to strengthen
Saint86 Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 What do you people think Liverpool fans prefer at the moment? Lallana for £25-30m or Shaqiri for £15-20m?? I don't care what they think, its a no brainer, sell lala and get shaqira!
SuperSAINT Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/calciomercato/shaqiri-is-close-to-joining-liverpool-the-latest/ Will this have an impact? Surely they don't need Sterling, Coutinho, Shaqiri and Lallana? Good question - I think I'll rest a little easier if they land both Shaqiri & Sanchez.
Give it to Ron Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 I thought one of the attractions of them signing Lallana was he is English and helps them meet their quota? Isn't their a restriction on now?
Window Cleaner Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 I thought one of the attractions of them signing Lallana was he is English and helps them meet their quota? Isn't their a restriction on now? Got to be 8 in the 25 for both the PL and UEFA competitions. Doesn't mean you have to play them though. City get round it easily enough, only 2 HGs actually play for them on a regular basis I think. If you don't have 8 over 21 HGs you jhust reduce your squad by the number that you don't have. Don't think Saints had 25 over 21s last season, didn't do us much harm. Liverpool aren't short of home growns, they're short of talent in depth that's all.
Give it to Ron Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 Got to be 8 in the 25 for both the PL and UEFA competitions. Doesn't mean you have to play them though. City get round it easily enough, only 2 HGs actually play for them on a regular basis I think. If you don't have 8 over 21 HGs you jhust reduce your squad by the number that you don't have. Don't think Saints had 25 over 21s last season, didn't do us much harm. Liverpool aren't short of home growns, they're short of talent in depth that's all. Even shorter now
Toadhall Saint Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 The sensible ones (yes, I know) want lovren for 15-20m because thats where they really need to strengthen How very true.
kpturner Posted 26 June, 2014 Posted 26 June, 2014 What a daft question. This is Liverpool we're talking about. It's got nothing to do with Bayern Munich. Errm, not sure if that was an attempt at ironic humour or what? No smileys makes it difficult to tell. But my post was in response to a suggestion we buy Shaqiri - who plays for Bayern Munich.
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Telegraph Journo John Percy just now: Southampton midfielder Adam Lallana set to complete £25m move to #lfc. Talks now at an advanced stage and could even be completed today.
Saints foreva Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Telegraph Journo John Percy just now: Southampton midfielder Adam Lallana set to complete £25m move to #lfc. Talks now at an advanced stage and could even be completed today. They can't wait to get out.
Killers Knee Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Are Bayern Munich up for selling him then? Even if they were, he is hardly likely to jump at the chance is he? Well, last season he was a bit part player playing in 17 of their 34 league matches, so we might have been able to tempt him, but now he's gone and scored a world cup hattrick i think we can safely discount him from any transfer thoughts.
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach 3m Ever heard the phrase it never rains but it pours?
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 (edited) Even though you know its coming (unless you have ahd your head buried for months), it doesn't make it any easier. We may buy in good players, but Lallana has been with Saints for years and both he and Shaw were developed by the club. Sad, sad day to lose them - even if totally understandable from their perspectives. Also makes it massively important to retain players like Cork and Fonte who have some sort of proper history with the club. Edited 27 June, 2014 by Saint Charlie
Um Bongo Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 At the least the club haven't hung around.....with it all sorted, more time to get replacements in.
St Marco Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 So the rumoured £50m fund is basically from selling Shaw and Lallana? Seems to contradict everything we've heard but still pretty likely. Wish it wasn't Liverpool, vile club. And what a horrible first day that'll be. Koeman must have known though. My main fear is what Schneiderlin says to this. Why on earth should he stay? Same with Lovren, both could play in the CL now. Exactly. I imagine a lot of players are going to have to be convinced to stay now. The question is do the players believe the board and their ambitions? Clearly three people now didn't and I expect that number to rise.
Bewildered Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 So the rumoured £50m fund is basically from selling Shaw and Lallana? Seems to contradict everything we've heard but still pretty likely. Wish it wasn't Liverpool, vile club. And what a horrible first day that'll be. Koeman must have known though. My main fear is what Schneiderlin says to this. Why on earth should he stay? Same with Lovren, both could play in the CL now. What rumoured 50m fund? The only rumours are SSN claiming a 70m fund and Guan claiming 35m before sales.
charliemiller Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 I honestly believe Adam will regret this move sooner rather than later as will liverpool spending what they are ......as a player he is skilled technically but lacks pace and accelaration . Last year the tactics and pace of play played to his strengths , also as has been raised he never lasts 90 mins generally , maybe there is a historical medical reason for that ? Personally I would rather we sold him now and bought shaquiri for 10m he has pace and can shoot which has never really been in Adams locker.
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Ben Smith BBC saying Lallana on way to Liverpool now for a medical.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Telegraph Journo John Percy just now: Southampton midfielder Adam Lallana set to complete £25m move to #lfc. Talks now at an advanced stage and could even be completed today. I'd trust John Percy. Disappointed with £25m though if I'm honest.
saint-crinny Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Not sure why people think we will sign Shaqiri? Don't get me wrong, i'd be delighted if we did, but he is out of our league, let's be clear about that. If we kept all of last year's squad and had kept Cortese, i still don't think we would have been able to sign him. Even less so now
St Chalet Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Ben Smith BBC saying Lallana on way to Liverpool now for a medical. Wonder if he will pass this one?
Saints foreva Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 I suspect this is why the club haven't announced the sale of Shaw yet. They're gonna hit us with a double whammy a little later.
verlaine1979 Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Oh if we signed Shaquiri and Blind and had a big profit on Shaw and Lallana I think it would be brilliant business. And I think both would have been possible before, but now I'm not sure we can easily convince players of our ambition. Between Basel, Bayern & Ajax, they've both pretty much spent their entire careers so far in the Champions League. Neither was ever going to come here. Not even a shred of a chance.
notnowcato Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 A lot is being said about the 25% sell on clause. What would happen if we sold Adam for say £15m and took Coutinho too? Would a value have to be applied to Coutinho and 25% of that amount also paid to Bournemouth? I like Coutinho.
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Sky saying deals for Shaw and AL won't be the last, with a couple more big money departures set to follow.
Toon Saint Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Balls. I wonder whether Koeman even had the chance to speak with them both. The moves just seem to have been deferred until end of WC and all the talk of getting right price for the club seem a bit hollow given how quickly they have been sold. Not a good day to be a Saints fan. Let's hope for some incomings next week, as it is going to get harder and harder to convince new players of our ambition if all we are reported as doing is flogging off our best players.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Sky saying deals for Shaw and AL won't be the last, with a couple more big money departures set to follow. Lovren to will definitely go.
St Marco Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Sky saying deals for Shaw and AL won't be the last, with a couple more big money departures set to follow. Heard that too. I got a bad feeling they are talking about Morgan. Would be so gutted if it is him.
KK the 2nd Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Sky sports reporting Lallana in Liverpool on his way to the training ground ahead of proposed transfer.
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach 3m Adam Lallana looks likely to follow Luke Shaw out of #SaintsFC today. He is having a medical at #LFC at 2.30pm.
Minty Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Good, get them all done in one day, so I can avoid the forum for a week whilst on holiday and come back to rumours of signings rather than departures.
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 If Lovren and Schneiderlin did go, and I know it's likely, it really would be an unprecedented sell off at a successful premier league club. Just hasn't happened. Would really be a huge statement of no intent to the football world. Very hard to recover from, will be a terrible atmosphere amongst the fans and very little patience for Koeman I fear. Exactly right. Not great news, but thats the long and short of it.
Pancake Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Good, get them all done in one day, so I can avoid the forum for a week whilst on holiday and come back to rumours of signings rather than departures. Word.
saint-crinny Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Shaw gone, Lallana almost certainly gone - if Morgan and Lovren follow, i'll be happy if we stay up this season
badgerx16 Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Does this mean that RK has approved all of these moves ?
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Shaw gone, Lallana almost certainly gone - if Morgan and Lovren follow, i'll be happy if we stay up this season Will make it crucial to get someone in who as good as guarentees goals, not someone who may or may not adapt. Also need to start making signings so they have a full pre season, or as near to it as possible.
Killers Knee Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 That will be the spine of the team gone then. Lovren, Shaw Schneiderlin Lallana Lambert It will cost approx £100m to replace them like-for-like so we better get top dollar on the sales.
Wade Garrett Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 After the appointment of Koeman, I have a confidence in the board and owner that was previously wavering. i am sure that we have quality replacements lined up to replace Shaw, Lallana and anyone else we are happy to sell. Koeman wouldn't gave come here if he didn't think he could do a good job. Keep the faith.
OldNick Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 If you stand back and analysis it from aneutral perspective, we have had Liverpools pants down. ALmay be a god to some and he may have quick feet and a bit of a football brain but boy does he have limitations. He did stay with us when we plummeted down the leagues I will be grateful for that (were there offers for him) We have had most of his best years and he is probably now at the height of his game. Let him go and have his big money move, I don't think it will bring him happiness though. The scoucers will not have the same affinity to him and he has to hit the floor running as they are even more desperate to win the league after last season. Thank you Adam for the transfer fee and helping us back up the leagues,but you will find that the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence
angelman Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 After the appointment of Koeman, I have a confidence in the board and owner that was previously wavering. i am sure that we have quality replacements lined up to replace Shaw, Lallana and anyone else we are happy to sell. Koeman wouldn't gave come here if he didn't think he could do a good job. Keep the faith. This. Koeman starts with a blank-ish canvas. Might be less easy at the start of next season, but given time.....
Saint Charlie Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 No question Lallana and Liverpool benefit from the deal more than Saints. Especially as we have already lost Lambert, and Jay Rod to injury. Need to rebuild our entire attack in 2 months.
Killers Knee Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 anything less than £35m for Schneiderlin is an insult, he is world class.
Wopper Posted 27 June, 2014 Posted 27 June, 2014 Half the squad being sold and Koeman is f-ing about in a convent.
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