austsaint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 If that's true I say sell him. Good price for him and he obviously doesn't want to be here. I'm with you here Jeff. Lallana's been great for Saints and last season he played out of his skin under MP. However I will be amazed if in 12 months time he is valued at anything like that money, and his apparent determination to be off has dulled the affection of many a supporter, including me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 God Liverpool are starting to look a bit desperate how many final offers is that now? A couple more final offers and they'll have got to what we want. Hang in there Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 £20m for Saints cash. I have no idea, but if all we have heard is true, that would be about right to take it from 20 to 23 then to 26 to cover the cherry's cut, wouldn't it? Of course if it works out at 19.9m then that is derisory, outrageous etc. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Take the money on condition they walk away from Lovren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 A couple more final offers and they'll have got to what we want. Hang in there Saints! That's exactly it. If you make a final offer after you have already made a final offer you have handed the advantage to the seller. Its only mid June, they have got over 2 months to make a few more final offers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 That's exactly it. If you make a final offer after you have already made a final offer you have handed the advantage to the seller. Its only mid June, they have got over 2 months to make a few more final offers Even some of the Liverpool lot realise this. Madness. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-hoping-third-time-lucky-7291245 The Moyes strategy of 2013/2014 repeated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 £20m for Saints cash. I have no idea, but if all we have heard is true, that would be about right to take it from 20 to 23 then to 26 to cover the cherry's cut, wouldn't it? Of course if it works out at 19.9m then that is derisory, outrageous etc. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk I think we should go further make Stevie G deliver the money to SMS personally, on his knees, in used £50s, while wearing a mankini big press opportunity to show the club won't take any **** from the big boys:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 I love the way clubs like Liverpool think that they can use their cast offs as make weights? If Borini was so good, why isn't he in a Liverpool shirt rather than being farmed out to Sunderland? And if there is a chance that we might sign Pelle, why would we take Borini? If we wanted Borini, then he is the type of player who isn't in such demand that we couldn't just put a bid in without him being part of a make weight deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 I love the way clubs like Liverpool think that they can use their cast offs as make weights? If Borini was so good, why isn't he in a Liverpool shirt rather than being farmed out to Sunderland? And if there is a chance that we might sign Pelle, why would we take Borini? If we wanted Borini, then he is the type of player who isn't in such demand that we couldn't just put a bid in without him being part of a make weight deal. Now to me Borini is a known quality, someone who's proved that he can play in the PL, Pelle ? who knows, Steve de Ridder scored goals in Holland. Then again Borini is 23, Pelle is far older I think. I wouldn't mind taking Borini in part exchange at all, not that it's likely to happen, we could also buy Pelle because just now we have about let's see...zero strikers until JRod is ready again. Osvaldo certainly won't be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Now to me Borini is a known quality, someone who's proved that he can play in the PL, Pelle ? who knows, Steve de Ridder scored goals in Holland. Then again Borini is 23, Pelle is far older I think. I wouldn't mind taking Borini in part exchange at all, not that it's likely to happen, we could also buy Pelle because just now we have about let's see...zero strikers until JRod is ready again. Osvaldo certainly won't be back.but he's not quality IMo. He is lightweight and hardly prolific. As i recall he was dire at the start of the season. Didnt he also collapse in the dressing rooms at halftime in one game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Agree that Borini is quite overrated. Scored a couple of vital pens but not a consistently good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Sunderland would be keen to buy him if he was of decent potential, at a sensible value. Not a whisper that this is likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Fighting the good fight http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-hoping-third-time-lucky-7291245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 I wonder when the 'final final definitely the final last offer honest mate' offer will be made And majority up front could mean anything from £13m up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 I wonder when the 'final final definitely the final last offer honest mate' offer will be made And majority up front could mean anything from £13m up Well if it's anyything like my undergrad poker experience the first of the "last hands" was at about midnight and the final,final last hand was just before the 9am lecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Now to me Borini is a known quality, someone who's proved that he can play in the PL, Pelle ? who knows, Steve de Ridder scored goals in Holland. Then again Borini is 23, Pelle is far older I think. I wouldn't mind taking Borini in part exchange at all, not that it's likely to happen, we could also buy Pelle because just now we have about let's see...zero strikers until JRod is ready again. Osvaldo certainly won't be back. Borini was at Sunderland and scored 7 goals in 32 league games. Sunderland really struggled and it could have ended with them going down. So personally, I am a little more ambitious than having a striker who scores once every 4.5 games and I want more from Saints than to equal Sunderland. He is younger than Pelle that is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 If that is a clear £20m plus £6 of nonsense, I mean add-ons, I say we take it. Love Ads, forever a Saint and I hope he continues to improve year on year. But if he feels his time at St.Marys is over (for now) then £20m is a good wedge and about right IMO. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Don't forget that that would only be £15 million cash for saints with £5 mill for Bournemouth. It's not enough to replace him with someone as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Fighting the good fight http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-hoping-third-time-lucky-7291245 Are you Paul Alan Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Are you Paul Alan Taylor? Nah, Paul Alan Paylor, I'd guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Fighting the good fight http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-hoping-third-time-lucky-7291245 You're banging your head against the wall with that load of arrogant scousers, pap. I love the "how dare little ol' Southampton refuse our offers?" attitude from them. After all, we're a selling club. Witness how we sold Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott, Bale, etc. Lallana isn't worth more than £15 million, £20 million tops, etc,etc. We really do need to refuse to budge from £30 million up front for him and £20 million for Lovren, again all up front. Let's see who blinks first. They will learn a valuable lesson and all the other big clubs will watch them learn it. It is that we don't need the money and if anybody wants our players, then they will have to pay through the nose for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 I wonder if we should ignore the money and just open the box sounds like liverpool are trying to reincarnate the tv show take your pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 The concept of worth is obviously something that they don't quite grasp. How can anyone say how much he is worth as there is no set defined way of doing so? Therefore as he is registered/contracted with us, it is us who decide what value we will accept. As you say, it maybe inconvenient that little old Saints don't roll over and be grateful that Liverpool want to sign half our team, but shït happens. Before the end of the season, Liverpool and Spurs were always the two PL teams that I disliked more than others. Liverpool seem so damned arrogant even while living in the shadow of Man U for the pasty 20 years. There seems to be a thought that they deserve to be at the top. It may well transpire that they will, as the dominating force in the league always seems to change and I can't see Man U being up there for 4 or 5 years. I also took exception to being told that all neutrals wanted Liverpool to win the PL last season - I certainly diidn't and actually wanted Chelsea and then Citeh. Spurs, also seem to think similarly, but with them, it's more personal after having come out of WHL in the 1990s (think 1998 ) after a 1-1 draw and being involved in a totally unprovoked fight. Since the end of the season, my opinion has not changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Who the hell do the scousers think they are FFS?! I'll tell you what they're trying to do - hoover up the best players from one of their rival clubs...they know we could pose a serious threat to them next season and they're trying to de-stabilise us. Wait until they offer what we've asked for - £30m - no less - up front. With some decent incoming players we'll be making their life a misery this coming season just like we did last season. As for Lallana - frankly if all the rumours are true he's really let himself down. Instead of attempting to stand head and shoulders to the likes of Gerrard as Captain of a top 8 Prem side, he looks like some whining little subservient boy. Man up Lallana and stand up for something that matters - something you've helped to create. The alternative is obscurity and eventual rejection as a nobody in scouser history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 (edited) Don't forget that that would only be £15 million cash for saints with £5 mill for Bournemouth. It's not enough to replace him with someone as good. To be fair, I have no idea of the precise, actual, or rumoured percentages involved (have Liverpool already secured an agreement with Bournemouth? etc) or the amount offset by 'Add-Ons'. My totally uninformed assumption was that the £26m WOULD give Bournemouth their cut AND us about £20m 'Up Front'. Maybe Bournemouth get a twenty percent cut instead (5m) and 1m gets paid in instalments per champions league game? I dunno! Just riffing on the progression from 20-23-26 million. Edited for lazy maths. Edited 19 June, 2014 by Polaroid Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Yeah, I'm Paul over on the Liverpool Echo site. Most other places too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Final 26 mill offer allegedly. http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/19/liverpool-set-to-make-last-ditch-26million-transfer-offer-for-adam-lallana-4767411/ Another final offer. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 They have conducted themselves poorly this summer. Yes. We should not deal with Liverpool. If we sell we should sell to another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Laughable. It's like he would never have considered playing for Champions League qualifying, one of the biggest clubs in the world Liverpool before he got called up for England. Never crossed his mind. So Lallana is just Some dopey Saints yokel whose head was turned by evil scousers. "Whaaaa? You mean people can play for a different club? Thanks for telling me Mr Gerrard sir." This forum never lets you down if it's idiocy you're after. Liverpool been tapping you up too CB? Et tu C B Fry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Laughable. It's like he would never have considered playing for Champions League qualifying, one of the biggest clubs in the world Liverpool before he got called up for England. Never crossed his mind. So Lallana is just Some dopey Saints yokel whose head was turned by evil scousers. "Whaaaa? You mean people can play for a different club? Thanks for telling me Mr Gerrard sir." This forum never lets you down if it's idiocy you're after. Liverpool been tapping you up too CB? Et tu C B Fry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 To be fair, I have no idea of the precise, actual, or rumoured percentages involved (have Liverpool already secured an agreement with Bournemouth? etc) or the amount offset by 'Add-Ons'. My totally uninformed assumption was that the £26m WOULD give Bournemouth their cut AND us about £20m 'Up Front'. Maybe Bournemouth get a twenty percent cut instead (5m) and 1m gets paid in instalments per champions league game? I dunno! Just riffing on the progression from 20-23-26 million. Edited for lazy maths. The 25% was imposed by an FA Tribunal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Another final offer. Lol Why don't we go back with a "Final" refusal ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Why don't we go back with a "Final" refusal ?? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Final 26 mill offer allegedly. http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/19/liverpool-set-to-make-last-ditch-26million-transfer-offer-for-adam-lallana-4767411/ What is it with Liverpool, they take Lambert which I do not begrudge him, now they are after Lallana and Lovren at the lowest price they feel they can get away with, which shows no respect to SFC, they also want Southamptons traditional cruise ship business and if you ever park your car in Liverpool long enough you may get lucky and just have the wheels stolen. Whats next a change of name to the Liverpool Saints, there ****ing arrogance is mind numbing, I did see on bbc today that Lallana is looking forward to meeting with the new manager,maybe there is hope; as for Liverpool, "go forth and multiply" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Yes. We should not deal with Liverpool. If we sell we should sell to another club. ... but not Tottenham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 ... but not Tottenham Preferably not Spuds. But better option than Liverpool. We should sell him to Stoke or Hull City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Preferably not Spuds. But better option than Liverpool. We should sell him to Stoke or Hull City. Doesn't Leicester City have a few quid now? They should be able to pay in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Preferably not Spuds. But better option than Liverpool. We should sell him to Stoke or Hull City. Prefereably abroad - my money's on Athletico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 (edited) strange how everyone is so quick to praise our Academy products (like Lallana) and yet when it comes to buying one, they shy away from the high price tag. Good players cost money.....just look at some of the fees that some Prem. clubs have forked out on " foreign rejects " (and even some English ones) well it's seller's market Brendan ......and Adam is top of the list. Final word; you want him?....so either put up .....or shut up ! Edited 20 June, 2014 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Loving the 'pool fans squawking about the valuation. They just don't seem to get it. AL may well be worth say £18m where all parties want to the deal to happen. But, we don't want to sell him. This is the bit they can't / won't get their head around. They need to add a number to the £18m which will change our mind. It really is simple supply and demand. That said £26m up front would be a fair deal IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 He would slip at the last min and let the ball(s) through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 He would slip at the last min and let the ball(s) through Need to cut the bloke some slack, he's 34 and a scouser, probably be a grandad soon. Blokes obviously got things to think about other than performing adequately at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Barcelona have bid 52m for Suarez. Payback's a b*tch, eh Brendan ? At least we know now you can match our valuation if you really want him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 I think we should go further make Stevie G deliver the money to SMS personally, on his knees, in used £50s, while wearing a mankini big press opportunity to show the club won't take any **** from the big boys:D No point, that sort of gesture would go right over his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Need to cut the bloke some slack, he's 34 and a scouser, probably be a grandad soon. Blokes obviously got things to think about other than performing adequately at football. Depends on whether the rumours about his kids are true to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Barcelona have bid 52m for Suarez. Payback's a b*tch, eh Brendan ? At least we know now you can match our valuation if you really want him... Boo hoo Liverchester. Perhaps you could develop your own players eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Barcelona have bid 52m for Suarez. Payback's a b*tch, eh Brendan ? At least we know now you can match our valuation if you really want him... Wonder if Barcelona had the gall to offer £26m of that up front, and the rest on the never never for spurious add-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Wonder if Barcelona had the gall to offer £26m of that up front, and the rest on the never never for spurious add-ons. £15m up front, £10m if they win the next 5 champions leagues, £10m if he score over 1,000 goals and £6m if they win the FIFA intergalactic cup in 2027. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 I say let Lallana go for £26 million - but not to Liverpool who have really treated Saints with contempt - as has Lallana himself. A bit more humility from Adam would not go amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Barcelona have bid 52m for Suarez. Payback's a b*tch, eh Brendan ? At least we know now you can match our valuation if you really want him... Looks like Lambert might get more game time than he thought when he signed:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 20 June, 2014 Share Posted 20 June, 2014 Looks like Lambert might get more game time than he thought when he signed:lol: Reports of 30 million plus Sanchez, not quite near the 100 million Liverpool were talking about for Suarez Strangely some papers said he's already in talks with Barca, surely rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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