Foxstone Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 heard some interesting gossip / information on the lallana to liverpool links. i heard fro someone at the bournmouth end if the conversation (close enough to be involved in any decision making) that liverpool have offered slightly north of 24 million however the caveat is that its paid in installments over 4 years (didnt ask how many). Bournemouth have absolutely said no chance we want our 25% up front no negotiation andsaints also have said all up front or no deal as we need to spend the cash on replacements. clearly liverpool have a budget for a number of players needed to bolster their squad for CL and dont want to spend a large chunk on one player up front so will only pay over 4 years. sounds like unless either party backs down nothing will be happening and young adz will be returning to SMS with his tail between his legs. And why should We, Bournemouth or anybody else be in existence to serve the Scousers every whim and fancy. Either they put up or shut up and go elsewhere for their "bargains" to advance their Champions of Europe claims!! Cue much wailing from the LIverpool mafia on TV (not least Jocky "They've gotta sell" Hanson") !! Just pretty peed off with this lot thinking they can dictate what they want at the expense of others - I hope Adam is beginning to realise they are wanting to "underbuy" him and stays around with us with the Skippers armband that comes with the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Liverpool looking elsewhere. Lallana looking forward to meeting Koeman. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 heard some interesting gossip / information on the lallana to liverpool links. i heard fro someone at the bournmouth end if the conversation (close enough to be involved in any decision making) that liverpool have offered slightly north of 24 million however the caveat is that its paid in installments over 4 years (didnt ask how many). Bournemouth have absolutely said no chance we want our 25% up front no negotiation andsaints also have said all up front or no deal as we need to spend the cash on replacements. clearly liverpool have a budget for a number of players needed to bolster their squad for CL and dont want to spend a large chunk on one player up front so will only pay over 4 years. sounds like unless either party backs down nothing will be happening and young adz will be returning to SMS with his tail between his legs. Interesting, but do Bournemouth have any real say in how the deal is structured? Also, can they afford to be too demanding given their level of debts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Here is an additional part of the BBC interview that's just been posted. Adam looks more like his old self, speaks again well of the club and how they were so supportive when he had his heart murmur problems. No wife with him in Brazil but his parents and other relations are there. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27907376 Atmosphere in Manaus much better than at St Mary's. Cheers Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 I would be very pleased if Adam was to stay . He will be a far better player staying with us that being a sub for the scousers I think there is bridge building going on and no way wild saint would no what was going on re the cherries side of life . That's between saints and whoever he would be sold to . MOPO your selfish action has not only angered thousands if saints fan you have unsettled the players . ****t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Interesting, but do Bournemouth have any real say in how the deal is structured? Also, can they afford to be too demanding given their level of debts? Just crap anyway, hardly any football transfers are paid in full at the time of transfer, that's why we owe 27 million £ for previous transfers. Still asking for cash in advance is a good way to ensure no player ever leaves the club during the period of his contract. It is also an excellent way to ensure that no-one ever wants to sell you players on favourable terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Just crap anyway, hardly any football transfers are paid in full at the time of transfer, that's why we owe 27 million £ for previous transfers. Still asking for cash in advance is a good way to ensure no player ever leaves the club during the period of his contract. It is also an excellent way to ensure that no-one ever wants to sell you players on favourable terms. You are spot on of course but when it happens it just bad negotiation on the part of the selling club, or at least reflective of a club that wants or needs to sell, neither of which apply to us at the moment happily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Does seem like a bit of an odd out-of-context extract of an interview. Remind me again, are the BBC on our "side" or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Remind me again, are the BBC on our "side" or not? Against, like the rest of the media, they all hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Atmosphere in Manaus much better than at St Mary's. Cheers Adam. I think he said "different" not "better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Perhaps we are too occupied with Liverpool and their bid. I fear the unshaven podgy dago at THFC is likely to stir this one up again after WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Perhaps we are too occupied with Liverpool and their bid. I fear the unshaven podgy dago at THFC is likely to stir this one up again after WC. Casual racism aside, AL is still very full of praise for MP. But, I severely doubt Spurs could match our valuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Perhaps we are too occupied with Liverpool and their bid. I fear the unshaven podgy dago at THFC is likely to stir this one up again after WC. Looking at the centre backs he's supposed to be chasing, you wonder what his transfer budget is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 If he wants to ply his trade with us next season, then I am all for that If he doesn't, so be it. He might have had his head turned, he might have changed, but frankly, if anyone (including Osvaldo) wants to try their best and to help Saints move onwards and upwards, to me they are welcome. We can all take the moral high ground or we can be magnanimous. We can cut our nose off to spite our face, but really, the club comes first. He hasn't lost us any money, he hasn't done anything apart from dream about the bright lights and the greener grass on the other side of the fence. It would be foolish to not look at all your options. He, or his advisers, might have been ill advised at the way they have gone about things, but that's hardly crime of the century. Maybe he is just wanting an increase in his contract. There is a lot of "propaganda" so who knows what's what? Good post. I will be very happy if he is still with us next season. Every summer I get lots of offers from perspective new clients. This means I have to weigh up who I want to work with, and who I will drop from the previous academic year. Lots of factors come into play. It's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Casual racism aside, AL is still very full of praise for MP. But, I severely doubt Spurs could match our valuation Won't stop them making similar derisory offers (as Liverpool have) just to test the water, and unsettle the player hoping it works to their advantage though. Assume AL will not be going the route of appointing Jonathan Barrett as his new agent. Looking at the centre backs he's supposed to be chasing, you wonder what his transfer budget is? Not sure who they're looking at, other than a vague media link to Lovren, and today's rumour re O'Shea. Clearly opposite ends of the maeket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Looking at the centre backs he's supposed to be chasing, you wonder what his transfer budget is? As they're trying to pay 32 million for Lukaku it must be substantial, still there won't be much left after that. depends on who they can offlload really I expect, same as us,same as everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 It's football, it's fickle. If Lallana goes, loads of fans will no doubt boo him for the first game we see him back, but equally if he's still here ripping Liverpool to pieces on the opening day, the same fans will be swaying their arms and saying he makes Messi looks sh*te. It's the "One Jerry Edwards" syndrome ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 It's football, it's fickle. If Lallana goes, loads of fans will no doubt boo him for the first game we see him back, but equally if he's still here ripping Liverpool to pieces on the opening day, the same fans will be swaying their arms and saying he makes Messi looks sh*te. It's the "One Jerry Edwards" syndrome ... that always makes me laugh. Drop me a message pal. I'm in London quite a bit next few weeks, catch up for a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 And why should We, Bournemouth or anybody else be in existence to serve the Scousers every whim and fancy. Either they put up or shut up and go elsewhere for their "bargains" to advance their Champions of Europe claims!! Cue much wailing from the LIverpool mafia on TV (not least Jocky "They've gotta sell" Hanson") !! Just pretty peed off with this lot thinking they can dictate what they want at the expense of others - I hope Adam is beginning to realise they are wanting to "underbuy" him and stays around with us with the Skippers armband that comes with the job! A lot of clubs structure their deals over a period of time, us being one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Perhaps we are too occupied with Liverpool and their bid. I fear the unshaven podgy dago at THFC is likely to stir this one up again after WC. Spurs have already said they won't be bidding for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Spurs have already said they won't be bidding for him. Phew. Spurs can always be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 A lot of clubs structure their deals over a period of time, us being one of them. clearly not on this occasion as both saints and bournemouth want cash up front or no deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Very true. He stuck by us as we dropped through the leagues and must sometimes look at Ox, Bale and Walcott and wonder what might have been. The wages is the biggest factor - his agent would be saying, your stock is high just now and you have a (limited) golden opportunity to make millions. what we all do in the same situation??? I like Adam and don’t understand the stick he gets. He had a fantastic season and to my knowledge has never publically said anything against Saints. It might be something to do with the long-term contract he wanted which the club gave him and he was happy to sign just over a year ago, and now wants to rip up because it suits him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 It might be something to do with the long-term contract he wanted which the club gave him and he was happy to sign just over a year ago, and now wants to rip up because it suits him. It's because Gerrard and Liverpool have tapped him up since he first put on an England shirt. Well look at the loyalty they've shown to him. Offered Saints a joke £16m with add ons and now looking elsewhere after having him obey their orders and put his reputation on the line. Lallana should learn from Liverpools actions. He's damaged his reputation, damaged his captaincy, has gone from a respected England star whose professionalism at Southampton was admired by most of England to - as Clattenburg rightly identified - a changed man since he played for England and discovered the great Liverpool. He became arrogant. I hope he changes back. But I fundamentally blame Liverpool for making him act like a spoilt brat. It's now time for him to make amends and channel his revenge towards Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 It's because Gerrard and Liverpool have tapped him up since he first put on an England shirt. Well look at the loyalty they've shown to him. Offered Saints a joke £16m with add ons and now looking elsewhere after having him obey their orders and put his reputation on the line. Lallana should learn from Liverpools actions. He's damaged his reputation, damaged his captaincy, has gone from a respected England star whose professionalism at Southampton was admired by most of England to - as Clattenburg rightly identified - a changed man since he played for England and discovered the great Liverpool. He became arrogant. I hope he changes back. But I fundamentally blame Liverpool for making him act like a spoilt brat. It's now time for him to make amends and channel his revenge towards Liverpool. Aye. A hattrick on August the 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Aye. A hattrick on August the 16th. How good would that be? Capped only by a Rickie Lambert own goal so we can sing about Southamptons goal machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 How good would that be? Capped only by a Rickie Lambert own goal so we can sing about Southamptons goal machine! An own goal from Rickie is probably the least that he owes us. He can start his Liverpool career once they have played us. An own goalfrom him would start to repay us for what we have done for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 An own goal from Rickie is probably the least that he owes us. He can start his Liverpool career once they have played us. An own goalfrom him would start to repay us for what we have done for him. I think we have had our million quid's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 Poll to fix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 18 June, 2014 Share Posted 18 June, 2014 An own goal from Rickie is probably the least that he owes us. He can start his Liverpool career once they have played us. An own goalfrom him would start to repay us for what we have done for him. Make it an own-goal hat-trick and a missed penalty for Liverpool and we'll be evens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Final 26 mill offer allegedly. http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/19/liverpool-set-to-make-last-ditch-26million-transfer-offer-for-adam-lallana-4767411/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Another final ‘take it or leave it’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Take the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Come on Liverpool, go and take a running jump off the pier into the Mersey. You've already told us that the last offer was the final one and to carry on with subsequent offers is making you look ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 They have conducted themselves poorly this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 "take it or leave it" offers usually imply the vendor is eager to sell, which in this case is patently untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Final 26 mill offer allegedly. http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/19/liverpool-set-to-make-last-ditch-26million-transfer-offer-for-adam-lallana-4767411/ If that's true I say sell him. Good price for him and he obviously doesn't want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 It's because Gerrard and Liverpool have tapped him up since he first put on an England shirt. Well look at the loyalty they've shown to him. Offered Saints a joke £16m with add ons and now looking elsewhere after having him obey their orders and put his reputation on the line. Lallana should learn from Liverpools actions. He's damaged his reputation, damaged his captaincy, has gone from a respected England star whose professionalism at Southampton was admired by most of England to - as Clattenburg rightly identified - a changed man since he played for England and discovered the great Liverpool. He became arrogant. I hope he changes back. But I fundamentally blame Liverpool for making him act like a spoilt brat. It's now time for him to make amends and channel his revenge towards Liverpool. Laughable. It's like he would never have considered playing for Champions League qualifying, one of the biggest clubs in the world Liverpool before he got called up for England. Never crossed his mind. So Lallana is just Some dopey Saints yokel whose head was turned by evil scousers. "Whaaaa? You mean people can play for a different club? Thanks for telling me Mr Gerrard sir." This forum never lets you down if it's idiocy you're after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Final 26 mill offer allegedly. http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/19/liverpool-set-to-make-last-ditch-26million-transfer-offer-for-adam-lallana-4767411/ I thought they were going to walk away if this wasnt completed by the WC ? I also thought the last offer was "take it or leave it" ? Also interesting the reports now talk about mainly cash-up-front rather than daft structuring. Personally think we should keep them straining at the leash and see how far the theiving tw*ts will really go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Laughable. It's like he would never have considered playing for Champions League qualifying, one of the biggest clubs in the world Liverpool before he got called up for England. Never crossed his mind. So Lallana is just Some dopey Saints yokel whose head was turned by evil scousers. "Whaaaa? You mean people can play for a different club? Thanks for telling me Mr Gerrard sir." This forum never lets you down if it's idiocy you're after. you are top class at mocking CB , what were your words when somebody had a go at yo for your opinions .Something about your right to a view and shouldn't be slapped down. I can't be a##### to go and look but you got all precious. As for AL head turned by Gerrard, I agree AL would have had thoughts about other clubs but having Gerrard in your ear encouraging you can make you jump. Had Gerrard been negative I suspect it would make AL less likely to leave. I am sure we have all tapped up players from other clubs to join us in our own sporting world, not professional of course but a word in the ear does make a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 They have conducted themselves poorly this summer. Yep. They really come out of this looking stupid, desperate and aggressive. I have visions of some major nervous breakdowns occuring on Merseyside because they choked last years title. It was the same in 1989 when they lost that last game to Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 you are top class at mocking CB , what were your words when somebody had a go at yo for your opinions .Something about your right to a view and shouldn't be slapped down. I can't be a##### to go and look but you got all precious. As for AL head turned by Gerrard, I agree AL would have had thoughts about other clubs but having Gerrard in your ear encouraging you can make you jump. Had Gerrard been negative I suspect it would make AL less likely to leave. I am sure we have all tapped up players from other clubs to join us in our own sporting world, not professional of course but a word in the ear does make a difference CBs sneering and mockery is in overdrive at the moment - every opportunity - to be honest its too much now and hes is beginning to look a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 £26M ? Depends how it is structured. In my view either all paid up front, or bugger off. This is an England international at the top of his game, the c^nts are trying to buy, not a bloody sofa from a Littlewoods catalogue on the 'never never'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 Final 26 mill offer allegedly. http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/19/liverpool-set-to-make-last-ditch-26million-transfer-offer-for-adam-lallana-4767411/ God Liverpool are starting to look a bit desperate how many final offers is that now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 £26M ? Depends how it is structured. In my view either all paid up front, or bugger off. This is an England international at the top of his game, the c^nts are trying to buy, not a bloody sofa from a Littlewoods catalogue on the 'never never'. Exactly if Adam goes he needs replacing and we are going to need the money from the sale to do that cash upfront or bugger off. I will say that even though we may lose some good players yet this summer I can't fault the board for making every effort to keep them. Funny that only a few weeks ago people were complaining that the board were weak and we were going to let people go for peanuts seems like the board are tougher than people gave them credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 If I was Les Reed is Skype Lovren, Lallana and all and show me ripping up the bids for them and throwing them in the bin whilst proclaiming 'that is what I think of that' Is the Southampton way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 If that is a clear £20m plus £6 of nonsense, I mean add-ons, I say we take it. Love Ads, forever a Saint and I hope he continues to improve year on year. But if he feels his time at St.Marys is over (for now) then £20m is a good wedge and about right IMO. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingbridgeSaint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 If I was Les Reed is Skype Lovren, Lallana and all and show me ripping up the bids for them and throwing them in the bin whilst proclaiming 'that is what I think of that' Is the Southampton way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 If that is a clear £20m plus £6 of nonsense, I mean add-ons, I say we take it. Love Ads, forever a Saint and I hope he continues to improve year on year. But if he feels his time at St.Marys is over (for now) then £20m is a good wedge and about right IMO. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk ..or perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 June, 2014 Share Posted 19 June, 2014 If that is a clear £20m plus £6 of nonsense, I mean add-ons, I say we take it. Love Ads, forever a Saint and I hope he continues to improve year on year. But if he feels his time at St.Marys is over (for now) then £20m is a good wedge and about right IMO. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk When you say 20M do you mean pre- or post-Bournmouth cut ? I cant see us going for less than 20M cash-in-hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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