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From Adam Blackmore...

 

#Saintsfc Exec Director Les Reed says a reconciliation with Adam Lallana is a possibility, despite player wanting to go...quotes follow....

 

Reed: "We've brought him to this level, and we could feel that perhaps he should give it a little bit longer with us" #saintsfc

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From Adam Blackmore...

 

#Saintsfc Exec Director Les Reed says a reconciliation with Adam Lallana is a possibility, despite player wanting to go...quotes follow....

 

Reed: "We've brought him to this level, and we could feel that perhaps he should give it a little bit longer with us" #saintsfc

 

The loyalty and reciprocity card? That one was played ages ago. Wishful thinking.

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From Adam Blackmore...

 

#Saintsfc Exec Director Les Reed says a reconciliation with Adam Lallana is a possibility, despite player wanting to go...quotes follow....

 

Reed: "We've brought him to this level, and we could feel that perhaps he should give it a little bit longer with us" #saintsfc

 

Might take a tad longer with the fans a big lump of 25k folks are going to be less than impressed with his carrying ons this summer, I think if he stays and is still captain that will be a poor message for the rest of the squad too.

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I felt no pride of a Saints player coming on as an England player the other night. It just didn't feel right

 

This.

 

I wasn't even ****ed off he was left out, couldn't give a toss. Baines was rubbish, but not really bothered whether Shaw plays instead. Couldn't even get excited about one of our players playing in the opener. I was really looking forward to capping off a great season by watching our stars against the worlds best, but those disloyal ****s ruined that.

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Know what you mean but they are still Saints players. And i would still get emotional if Rickie gets on too. He has still not played for anyone else but Saints this year. Next season is different but whilst in the grey zone if the WC he is still our Rickie in my mind and I'm proud of him. Adz and Shaw too.

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Its not the same. When Rickie scored against the jocks I nearly burst with pride, I was on holiday in the hotel bar and I nearly took the roof off. As well as I want England to do, even if he scores the winner Thurs it won't feel liker that night.

 

This. I ran round the pub with my Lambert 7 Saints shirt twirling it round my head. One of the proudest moments have had being a Saints fan for 38 years

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I agree he needs humbling, but its a two edged sword, whilst I wouldn't mind seeing him come down a peg, I'd prefer to get shot of him at an inflated value.

 

Agreed. I think Lallana has talked his way out of his contract with Saints and the Club is probably better off with the inflated fee for him. I have a feeling last season will be seen in time as his best, under MP.

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I have a feeling last season will be seen in time as his best, under MP.

 

This. He has too many limitations to be really great and has had too many 'no better than average' seasons. You couldn't be confident he would repeat last seasons efforts if we pulled out all the stops to keep him. I'd sell at anything north of £15m.

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Might take a tad longer with the fans a big lump of 25k folks are going to be less than impressed with his carrying ons this summer, I think if he stays and is still captain that will be a poor message for the rest of the squad too.

 

It really wont. If he announced he was staying and started the season well, all would be fine.

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From Adam Blackmore...

 

#Saintsfc Exec Director Les Reed says a reconciliation with Adam Lallana is a possibility, despite player wanting to go...quotes follow....

 

Reed: "We've brought him to this level, and we could feel that perhaps he should give it a little bit longer with us" #saintsfc

 

The problem with that is he's not Shaw's age. If he doesn't move to a 'big' club now he never will.

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We offer you 25 millions,that is maximum for Lallana,but you are so greedy...I think you don't deserve him.

You didn't offer £25m that's the problem. There was about £10m in ludicrous add-ons that may kid people in your part of the world but doesn't fool us.

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Could someone enlighten me here, a little? Just what is it that Adam has done that has so upset everyone? Signed a kid's Liverpool shirt? Told the club he'd like to play Champions League football next year? I haven't seen any comments from him that are disrespectful of Southampton. Far from it. His end of season speeches were highly emotional about the time he's had with us. But if you put yourself in his shoes at the end of the season... there really did seem to be a lot of uncertainty about, a lot of it MoPo generated. An offer from Champions League qualified Liverpool, where pal Rickie L was already heading, would have been hard for any one to turn down.

 

Maybe there have been behind the scenes shouting matches at Saints refusal to let him go ahead of a new appointment. Maybe bridges have been burned. But let's hold onto another possibility. Maybe, just as we have all be impressed and delighted by Katerina and the board's level of commitment with Koeman appointment, maybe Adam is too. Let's give it a chance, yes? The more he sees fans here already ****ed off with him, the less he might be inclined to stay. I think we should send out a different message. That we'd really, truly love him to stay.

 

The man's a genius footballer and gave me more pleasure last season than anyone else. And I for one will be absolutely celebrating if he has a good world cup moment or two. He's given years of loyalty to Saints, and is as key as anyone to where we are today. The fact that he's ambitious, and maybe has come to believe his own hype a little too much, can't cancel all that out... can it??

 

Adam, breaking up is hard to do... so I ain't doin' it just yet. Come on home!!

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Could someone enlighten me here, a little? Just what is it that Adam has done that has so upset everyone? Signed a kid's Liverpool shirt? Told the club he'd like to play Champions League football next year? I haven't seen any comments from him that are disrespectful of Southampton. Far from it. His end of season speeches were highly emotional about the time he's had with us. But if you put yourself in his shoes at the end of the season... there really did seem to be a lot of uncertainty about, a lot of it MoPo generated. An offer from Champions League qualified Liverpool, where pal Rickie L was already heading, would have been hard for any one to turn down.

 

Maybe there have been behind the scenes shouting matches at Saints refusal to let him go ahead of a new appointment. Maybe bridges have been burned. But let's hold onto another possibility. Maybe, just as we have all be impressed and delighted by Katerina and the board's level of commitment with Koeman appointment, maybe Adam is too. Let's give it a chance, yes? The more he sees fans here already ****ed off with him, the less he might be inclined to stay. I think we should send out a different message. That we'd really, truly love him to stay.

 

The man's a genius footballer and gave me more pleasure last season than anyone else. And I for one will be absolutely celebrating if he has a good world cup moment or two. He's given years of loyalty to Saints, and is as key as anyone to where we are today. The fact that he's ambitious, and maybe has come to believe his own hype a little too much, can't cancel all that out... can it??

 

Adam, breaking up is hard to do... so I ain't doin' it just yet. Come on home!!

 

My beef is quite simple - if he wants to go, hand in a transfer request. Don't do it through the media etc. I have no problem with players having ambition and wanting to play at a higher level than we can offer, but just be honest about it.

 

If however he is trying to agitate for the move without a transfer request, so that he can cling on to his bonuses - well, he can do one.

 

All in my very humble opinion of course

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Could someone enlighten me here, a little? Just what is it that Adam has done that has so upset everyone? Signed a kid's Liverpool shirt? Told the club he'd like to play Champions League football next year? I haven't seen any comments from him that are disrespectful of Southampton. Far from it. His end of season speeches were highly emotional about the time he's had with us. But if you put yourself in his shoes at the end of the season... there really did seem to be a lot of uncertainty about, a lot of it MoPo generated. An offer from Champions League qualified Liverpool, where pal Rickie L was already heading, would have been hard for any one to turn down.

 

Maybe there have been behind the scenes shouting matches at Saints refusal to let him go ahead of a new appointment. Maybe bridges have been burned. But let's hold onto another possibility. Maybe, just as we have all be impressed and delighted by Katerina and the board's level of commitment with Koeman appointment, maybe Adam is too. Let's give it a chance, yes? The more he sees fans here already ****ed off with him, the less he might be inclined to stay. I think we should send out a different message. That we'd really, truly love him to stay.

 

The man's a genius footballer and gave me more pleasure last season than anyone else. And I for one will be absolutely celebrating if he has a good world cup moment or two. He's given years of loyalty to Saints, and is as key as anyone to where we are today. The fact that he's ambitious, and maybe has come to believe his own hype a little too much, can't cancel all that out... can it??

 

Adam, breaking up is hard to do... so I ain't doin' it just yet. Come on home!!

 

It's more to do with the (perceived) way he is trying to get a move with leaks to the press and trying to pressure a move without handing in a transfer request. Compare him to Rickie Lambert and the way he handled his move to Liverpool with no fuss and a lot of respect for the club. Like I said perceptions. Same with mopo really there was just a feeling he had been rather underhanded about the whole move to Spurs that doesn't sit well.

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It's more to do with the (perceived) way he is trying to get a move with leaks to the press and trying to pressure a move without handing in a transfer request. Compare him to Rickie Lambert and the way he handled his move to Liverpool with no fuss and a lot of respect for the club. Like I said perceptions. Same with mopo really there was just a feeling he had been rather underhanded about the whole move to Spurs that doesn't sit well.

 

I get that. But I think it may be perception more than reality. It's got to be incredibly hard to juggle loyalties to family, club, future, etc. For me, his years of incredible excellence have earned him the benefit of doubt. And even if leaves, I personally would get more joy by saying: Fair enough, mate. Thanks for all you gave. Until then, fingers crossed Koeman can work his first little piece of magic. "One more year Adam. It's going to be amazing. Then if you still want to, you can go with my blessing."

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I get that. But I think it may be perception more than reality. It's got to be incredibly hard to juggle loyalties to family, club, future, etc. For me, his years of incredible excellence have earned him the benefit of doubt. And even if leaves, I personally would get more joy by saying: Fair enough, mate. Thanks for all you gave. Until then, fingers crossed Koeman can work his first little piece of magic. "One more year Adam. It's going to be amazing. Then if you still want to, you can go with my blessing."

No it isn't. It really isn't. All you do is sit down and discuss it with your family and make a decision.

 

Then, like a man, you go to the club and tell them face to face that either you're staying or your leaving.

 

Unless, of course, you're not a man.

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I get that. But I think it may be perception more than reality. It's got to be incredibly hard to juggle loyalties to family, club, future, etc. For me, his years of incredible excellence have earned him the benefit of doubt. And even if leaves, I personally would get more joy by saying: Fair enough, mate. Thanks for all you gave. Until then, fingers crossed Koeman can work his first little piece of magic. "One more year Adam. It's going to be amazing. Then if you still want to, you can go with my blessing."
he is at the top of his game now, we have had the best of him IMo and let us use the money to help strengthen our club. I will wave him goodbye and wish him well, but I have a feeling he will be like Mick Channon, not quite fitting in at the top table and not finding his form again til he came home.

AL undoubtably has great feet and mind, but it drives me mad that a footballer with a 15m pricetag can hardly kick a ball at pace, let alone head the damned thing

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No it isn't. It really isn't. All you do is sit down and discuss it with your family and make a decision.

 

Then, like a man, you go to the club and tell them face to face that either you're staying or your leaving.

 

Unless, of course, you're not a man.

 

It's not that simple. He's under contract. All he can do is let the club know that he would like to leave... and he's done that, albeit informally. The fuss over no formal transfer request is neither here nor there. In his situation, there's bound to be a negotiation over terms of departure, if that's what it comes to. Like I say, I think he's earned benefit of the doubt.

 

The bigger picture, is that I get that it's natural for people's disappointment at losing him to turn into anger at him. It's a way of managing the pain. I just don't think it's fair on a guy who gave us so much for so many years.

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The fuss over no formal transfer request is neither here nor there.

 

It's completely relevant.

 

A formal transfer request would have put the matter to bed, but AL did not make one because money would be lost.

 

Instead, we get the spectacle of our captain appearing in various news articles effectively saying that the team he leads isn't good enough for him anymore. And of course, once one rolls in, especially the captain, others feel able to make the statement as well.

 

He signed a five year contract last year and committed himself to the club. We all know he'll go if Liverpool stump up enough cash, and we all know he wants to go. Liverpool have used him like a chump, getting him to moan about wanting away instead of putting their fúcking hands in their pockets. He's been idiotic enough to play along.

 

As for Adam's gifts over the years, let's not forget that throughout, he was a professional footballer being paid a wage that'd make the vast majority of us seem like paupers by comparison. He has not worked for free and it's not like the gains haven't been mutual. We've shown huge faith in him as a player and have made him captain in a team that has far likelier leadership candidates. We have done right by him.

 

In recent weeks, he's been the worst sort of ambassador an up and coming club could wish for.

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I ain't actually seen him mugging us off or saying he wants to go pap. I also think saying to the club I'd like to go if liverpool come in, if that's what he's done, is less drama & burn bridges than handing in formal transfer request.

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It's completely relevant.

 

A formal transfer request would have put the matter to bed, but AL did not make one because money would be lost.

 

Instead, we get the spectacle of our captain appearing in various news articles effectively saying that the team he leads isn't good enough for him anymore. And of course, once one rolls in, especially the captain, others feel able to make the statement as well.

 

He signed a five year contract last year and committed himself to the club. We all know he'll go if Liverpool stump up enough cash, and we all know he wants to go. Liverpool have used him like a chump, getting him to moan about wanting away instead of putting their fúcking hands in their pockets. He's been idiotic enough to play along.

 

As for Adam's gifts over the years, let's not forget that throughout, he was a professional footballer being paid a wage that'd make the vast majority of us seem like paupers by comparison. He has not worked for free and it's not like the gains haven't been mutual. We've shown huge faith in him as a player and have made him captain in a team that has far likelier leadership candidates. We have done right by him.

 

In recent weeks, he's been the worst sort of ambassador an up and coming club could wish for.

 

this. If he does stay , he'll have a lot of bridges to mend.

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In a way AL has been suckered by Liverpool. They thought they could railroad Saints with a three tenths of f-all fee on the never never by minimising the cash outlay and add ons they might not have to pay. The fee will have to give Saints his value as a current England international plus the 25% sell on. It just isn't going to happen unless they pay about £25m up front.

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I think you'll find that if he stays he will not be met favourably by sections of the faithful. I mean how long before he starts bleating about going to a "better" club again? He has lost a bit of credibility no?

 

Maybe, but it's easily fixable. "I've spoken with Ronald Koeman and his vision for the next few years at St Mary's is incredibly exciting. The uncertainty I personally felt at the end of the season has been resolved and I'm thrilled to be staying. I truly appreciate this club's faith in me."

 

It wouldn't take much to have everyone excited about him again. It wasn't so long ago we were debating whether to add him to the masthead of this site. Just as when Saints are 2-0 down with 80 mins played you want the crowd to rally, that's what I want right now. Fan opinion is only a small part, but I think it still matters if a decision is in the balance.

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I think you'll find that if he stays he will not be met favourably by sections of the faithful. I mean how long before he starts bleating about going to a "better" club again? He has lost a bit of credibility no?

 

If he stays, he is tainted for sure. He would be like the girlfriend you would still sleep with, but never marry because you just can't trust her. Actually, I wouldn't sleep with him either unless he loses that funny beard thing.

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In a way AL has been suckered by Liverpool. They thought they could railroad Saints with a three tenths of f-all fee on the never never by minimising the cash outlay and add ons they might not have to pay. The fee will have to give Saints his value as a current England international plus the 25% sell on. It just isn't going to happen unless they pay about £25m up front.

 

He ends up annoyed with us when he should be annoyed at them for not valuing him enough.

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He ends up annoyed with us when he should be annoyed at them for not valuing him enough.

 

Theres truth in that, but its also true (imo) that he feels he has earned a free pass like Lambert because of his sterling service to the club. The reality though is that Lambert over delivered year after year and paid back his transfer fee by a factor of 20. Lallana may have been around a long time but has only just started to pay back the investment made in him. One stellar season and a derisory offer from Liverpool is not enough.

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Theres truth in that, but its also true (imo) that he feels he has earned a free pass like Lambert because of his sterling service to the club. The reality though is that Lambert over delivered year after year and paid back his transfer fee by a factor of 20. Lallana may have been around a long time but has only just started to pay back the investment made in him. One stellar season and a derisory offer from Liverpool is not enough.

 

Disagree personally. Lallana doesn't owe us anything. He has been largely superb for four or five seasons and reality is he has been just as good for the Club as the Club has for him.

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any examples of where he has slagged the club or the fans off?

 

None. Always very, very respectful & complimentary about the Club in any interview I have heard.

 

A lot of character assassination going on here. If he leaves I would hope he could be given a great reception whenever he came back to SMS otherwise what hope does the football world have?

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None. Always very, very respectful & complimentary about the Club in any interview I have heard.

 

A lot of character assassination going on here. If he leaves I would hope he could be given a great reception whenever he came back to SMS otherwise what hope does the football world have?

 

Would have been nice if the same courtesy had been extended to our board over the past few weeks.

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None. Always very, very respectful & complimentary about the Club in any interview I have heard.

 

A lot of character assassination going on here. If he leaves I would hope he could be given a great reception whenever he came back to SMS otherwise what hope does the football world have?

 

This

 

All we have is twitter mongs and the mirror/mail who are about as spot on as the Sunday sport. He has said nothing, the club have said nothing other than they would like him to stay

 

In the absence of immediate facts too many people in the social media age fill in the blanks and believe any old ****e

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I ain't actually seen him mugging us off or saying he wants to go pap. I also think saying to the club I'd like to go if liverpool come in, if that's what he's done, is less drama & burn bridges than handing in formal transfer request.

 

I haven't seen it directly either, Bear - but we saw the reports on the BBC and elsewhere. All with a degree of separation, but all pushing the issue nonetheless. If the stories did not come from his camp, then where? Why would Blackmore put his reputation on the line to repeat such sentiments? I've seen enough of this media lark to know that stuff is parroted endlessly, so I know you can't equate plurality with credibility. That said, AL could have come out straightaway and said "nope, this story is all bóllocks. I haven't asked to leave the club".

 

Having a word in the club's shell-like is no problem. Rickie did exactly the same, as long ago as December, and no-one thinks any the less of him for it. Going to the media to get your own way is a different story, especially at a time when its club should be celebrating some impressive representation at the World Cup.

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Lallana repeatedly moans about wanting a transfer. A couple of weeks ago I looked back in the Saintsweb history and identified a thread from 2009 when he stated that he wanted out.That was not the only instance. Saint chalet closed the thread that I bumped but the fact still remains - Lallana has form when it comes to wanting to leave.

 

I personally hope that he stays. I think he is one of the most gifted players that I have seen in a Saints shirt. He has the potentail to be the next MLT, There could be a a whole generation of Sotonians christened Adam in the same way as my son and several of his contemporaries are named Matthew.However he has got to get a grip and commit himself to Saints.The Scousers are taking the p **s and making him look a chump.

 

I don't want a captain who kisses the shirt but at thesame time wants to leave us. I think he is better off staying with us - but if he wants to give it up here to sit on the bench at Anfield and make irreguar appearances in the Champions League when Liverpool are playing in the middle of Ukraine or fielding the reserves when home to the Greek champions then let him.

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Lallana repeatedly moans about wanting a transfer. A couple of weeks ago I looked back in the Saintsweb history and identified a thread from 2009 when he stated that he wanted out.That was not the only instance. Saint chalet closed the thread that I bumped but the fact still remains - Lallana has form when it comes to wanting to leave.

 

I personally hope that he stays. I think he is one of the most gifted players that I have seen in a Saints shirt. He has the potentail to be the next MLT, There could be a a whole generation of Sotonians christened Adam in the same way as my son and several of his contemporaries are named Matthew.However he has got to get a grip and commit himself to Saints.The Scousers are taking the p **s and making him look a chump.

 

I don't want a captain who kisses the shirt but at thesame time wants to leave us. I think he is better off staying with us - but if he wants to give it up here to sit on the bench at Anfield and make irreguar appearances in the Champions League when Liverpool are playing in the middle of Ukraine or fielding the reserves when home to the Greek champions then let him.

god, you dont rate him much then....

 

that is what joe allen does, that is what aspas does. is lallana (team of the year) no at least better than that?

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god, you dont rate him much then....

 

that is what joe allen does, that is what aspas does. is lallana (team of the year) no at least better than that?

 

 

Can you see him wallking into the Liverpool first team on a regular basis ahead of the likes of Sturridge, Sterling and Henderson?? Woy after training with his squad for a few weeks clearly rates him behind them.

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Can you see him wallking into the Liverpool first team on a regular basis ahead of the likes of Sturridge, Sterling and Henderson?? Woy after training with his squad for a few weeks clearly rates him behind them.

 

yes, I could. They simply do not have the squad to play and seriously challenge 50+ games a season

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Can you see him wallking into the Liverpool first team on a regular basis ahead of the likes of Sturridge, Sterling and Henderson?? Woy after training with his squad for a few weeks clearly rates him behind them.

 

+ Coutinho

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yes, I could. They simply do not have the squad to play and seriously challenge 50+ games a season

 

So he will not be first choice. He will regularly be coming on off the bench after 70 minutes when their first team is tired and his much expected Champions League appearances will be when Liverpool want to rest their first choice players.

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so, despite coutinho being dropped alot at the start of last season, suarez being banned for 7 games, sturridge out for 6 weeks, gerrard soon to be 35...

lallana will hardly likely to play...

 

its like us buying wanyama and thinking he would never play.....he did, quite a bit

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Can you see him wallking into the Liverpool first team on a regular basis ahead of the likes of Sturridge, Sterling and Henderson?? Woy after training with his squad for a few weeks clearly rates him behind them.

Why would he replace Sturridge or Henderson? You might as well say he won't get picked ahead of Mignolet.

 

Liverpool are not planning to spend at least twenty million freaking pounds on Lallana just to use him as some stand in super sub.

 

With fans on here so dismissive of his potential not sure why he should ever bother to stick around.

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so, despite coutinho being dropped alot at the start of last season, suarez being banned for 7 games, sturridge out for 6 weeks, gerrard soon to be 35...

lallana will hardly likely to play...

 

its like us buying wanyama and thinking he would never play.....he did, quite a bit

 

 

Whilst I realise it's important for your recovery to post on every thread, could you please at least try and put up a decent argument.

 

Rgds

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