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I wonder if the guy should concentrate on improving the england side.so rickicie lambert has been bought as a starter as to my knowledge no other southampton player has been sold to liverpool.

 

Yeah, let's castigate the England manager for getting out and about, meeting the fans and answering their questions honestly. What a ****!

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“If Liverpool are signing all these Southampton players, I have got to presume they are signing them to play, not stockpile,”

 

Aside from the fact that Liverpool have signed just one Southampton player, is there a hint there of concern there that his England players would get less game time at Liverpool?

 

He could have answered that question by saying he can't comment on transfer speculation and that he's happy to consider in form players whatever club they play for.

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Yeah, let's castigate the England manager for getting out and about, meeting the fans and answering their questions honestly. What a ****!

 

How many players have we sold to liverpool? Really honest article based on speculation.just like when he went on tv banging on about the lambert to liverpool situation too.he should not speculate on club matters end of,he is england manager not southampton

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“If Liverpool are signing all these Southampton players, I have got to presume they are signing them to play, not stockpile,”

 

Aside from the fact that Liverpool have signed just one Southampton player, is there a hint there of concern there that his England players would get less game time at Liverpool?

 

Yep for sure. Roy is alrerady worried about the lack of English players at the top level to choose from. It would his worse nightmare if two or more of his current WC players went to bigger clubs and barely played.

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I wonder if the guy should concentrate on improving the england side.so rickicie lambert has been bought as a starter as to my knowledge no other southampton player has been sold to liverpool.

 

It's great that the manager, and a very respectable man took time to speak to the fans in such a way

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It's great that the manager, and a very respectable man took time to speak to the fans in such a way

 

Im not debating that but speculating on which players leaving is not his job.If he says stuff like we are a victim of our own success that is fair enough as it is obvious.what he does not need to do is say such things like if southampton sell all these players to liverpool blah blah blah or rickie lambert to liverpool blah blah.his job is to talk about clubs and england but draw the line at speculation.

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Rickie bought as a Liverpool starter? Can't see it...try already have to fit in Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling,

 

If Rickie would start it would be in the middle of Suarez and Sturridge, and therefore they'd lose Sterling to the bench, I'm pretty sure Rickie has been brought in to add to their England contingent and add to their squad for their extra games they'll have this season.

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Im not debating that but speculating on which players leaving is not his job.If he says stuff like we are a victim of our own success that is fair enough as it is obvious.what he does not need to do is say such things like if southampton sell all these players to liverpool blah blah blah or rickie lambert to liverpool blah blah.his job is to talk about clubs and england but draw the line at speculation.

 

Jesus Christ. He was asked a question by a saints fan who runs this forum at a q&a along the lines of given the amount of Southampton players linked with Liverpool was he concearned they were stock piling English talents. That was his answer.he wasn't speculating he was answering a direct question from a saints fan about saints and Liverpool.

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Rickie bought as a Liverpool starter? Can't see it...try already have to fit in Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling,

 

If Rickie would start it would be in the middle of Suarez and Sturridge, and therefore they'd lose Sterling to the bench, I'm pretty sure Rickie has been brought in to add to their England contingent and add to their squad for their extra games they'll have this season.

 

Everyone seems to be overlooking that Liverpool will now have two games every week with the CL.

 

Rickie will start against teams like WBA, us, Stoke and so on.

 

Mourinho was saying this a few weeks ago. Livepool were lucky to have been out of every cup competition so early. It's easy playing one game a week. That's why Rickie is there.

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Rickie bought as a Liverpool starter? Can't see it...try already have to fit in Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling,

 

If Rickie would start it would be in the middle of Suarez and Sturridge, and therefore they'd lose Sterling to the bench, I'm pretty sure Rickie has been brought in to add to their England contingent and add to their squad for their extra games they'll have this season.

 

You talk as if Liverpool will play the same starting 11 for 50+ games. Whilst travelling around Europe.

 

They won't, form, suspensions, injuries will mean Rickie will play a fair few games

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Everyone seems to be overlooking that Liverpool will now have two games every week with the CL.

 

Rickie will start against teams like WBA, us, Stoke and so on.

 

Mourinho was saying this a few weeks ago. Livepool were lucky to have been out of every cup competition so early. It's easy playing one game a week. That's why Rickie is there.

 

Exactly. You'd think he'd probably start 15 games a season what with the injuries, suspensions, cup games and league games against so called lesser clubs, with sub appearances maybe 30 appearances a season. That's probably about what you can expect from a 33 year old in the premier league these days.

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Jesus Christ. He was asked a question by a saints fan who runs this forum at a q&a along the lines of given the amount of Southampton players linked with Liverpool was he concearned they were stock piling English talents. That was his answer.he wasn't speculating he was answering a direct question from a saints fan about saints and Liverpool.

 

And if that's not something to make you wee yourself in anger, I don't know what is.

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Lukaku is understood to be a target for several Premier League clubs, as well as Primera Liga champions Atletico Madrid and Italian giants Juventus.

 

 

Could be interesting re: the Juve interest, what with the background Osvaldo mumblings.

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"To be around players like us may be a life-changing experience for them."

 

Umm okay, not very tactful or modest perhaps but he isn't wrong. Those kids 'may' be inspired to become footballers and go for their dreams.

 

Afraid you are wrong there. There have been many famous players emerging from the favelas who have ALWAYS inspired the inhabitants, and will do so much more than tourists visiting there. Favelas and football are very close - here's an article that might interest you. http://sites.duke.edu/wcwp/world-cup-2014/politics-in-brazil/the-favela/

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okay, not very tactful or modest perhaps but he isn't wrong. Those kids 'may' be inspired to become footballers and go for their dreams.

 

 

A lot of kids visited by the Royal Family are inspired to go on and be unelected dictators.

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As kids who loved football, it would be one of the best days of your childhood if you'd got to kick around with the then England team, or say Brazil team.

 

For a country with a tighter bond to football than even we have, and one that watches a lot of premier league football, I can honestly believe it was a very big deal for those kids, especially given the conditions they grow up in, where football literally is a massive part of the favellas.

 

But hey ho, lets slam our captain for remarking on how much it meant to the kids and on how much the england team enjoyed the experience of bringing happiness to the kids.

 

Many have bought into the anti Lallana PR that the club have spun recently.

 

And, at the end of the day, he is still a saint and hasn't handed in a transfer request, if the club want to sell him, its in their interests to leak stories that make him look bad, which they have been doing recently ala blackmore guan etc etc... Surprised so many fans have jumped on the "he can no right" band wagon. He's been with us through an awful lot and it is widely accepted he's turned down top clubs on several opportunities.

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As kids who loved football, it would be one of the best days of your childhood if you'd got to kick around with the then England team, or say Brazil team.

 

For a country with a tighter bond to football than even we have, and one that watches a lot of premier league football, I can honestly believe it was a very big deal for those kids, especially given the conditions they grow up in, where football literally is a massive part of the favellas.

 

But hey ho, lets slam our captain for remarking on how much it meant to the kids and on how much the england team enjoyed the experience of bringing happiness to the kids.

 

Many have bought into the anti Lallana PR that the club have spun recently.

 

And, at the end of the day, he is still a saint and hasn't handed in a transfer request, if the club want to sell him, its in their interests to leak stories that make him look bad, which they have been doing recently ala blackmore guan etc etc... Surprised so many fans have jumped on the "he can no right" band wagon. He's been with us through an awful lot and it is widely accepted he's turned down top clubs on several opportunities.

 

I don't think anyone is suggesting it wasn't a big deal, I think the dispute is over him saying "life-changing".

 

That said I do think there's some character assassination.

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As kids who loved football, it would be one of the best days of your childhood if you'd got to kick around with the then England team, or say Brazil team.

 

For a country with a tighter bond to football than even we have, and one that watches a lot of premier league football, I can honestly believe it was a very big deal for those kids, especially given the conditions they grow up in, where football literally is a massive part of the favellas.

 

But hey ho, lets slam our captain for remarking on how much it meant to the kids and on how much the england team enjoyed the experience of bringing happiness to the kids.

 

Many have bought into the anti Lallana PR that the club have spun recently.

And, at the end of the day, he is still a saint and hasn't handed in a transfer request, if the club want to sell him, its in their interests to leak stories that make him look bad, which they have been doing recently ala blackmore guan etc etc... Surprised so many fans have jumped on the "he can no right" band wagon. He's been with us through an awful lot and it is widely accepted he's turned down top clubs on several opportunities.

 

Just a few things to clear up here. The club don't want to sell him, they want him to stay. If he does end up being sold, there is less chance of him being sold for a high price if he is 'damaged goods'. This is why the club were alarmed and surprised that Adam and his camp leaked to Blackmore and Ben Smith. I was passed some info after this.

 

What anti Lallana PR are you talking about? The Brazil quote? The naked video? The angry Neighbour? All of that is nothing to do with the club, and everything to do with Adam. Just because a player you like is acting the tit, does not mean the gremlins are out to get him and you.

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As kids who loved football, it would be one of the best days of your childhood if you'd got to kick around with the then England team, or say Brazil team.

 

For a country with a tighter bond to football than even we have, and one that watches a lot of premier league football, I can honestly believe it was a very big deal for those kids, especially given the conditions they grow up in, where football literally is a massive part of the favellas.

 

But hey ho, lets slam our captain for remarking on how much it meant to the kids and on how much the england team enjoyed the experience of bringing happiness to the kids.

 

Many have bought into the anti Lallana PR that the club have spun recently.

 

And, at the end of the day, he is still a saint and hasn't handed in a transfer request, if the club want to sell him, its in their interests to leak stories that make him look bad, which they have been doing recently ala blackmore guan etc etc... Surprised so many fans have jumped on the "he can no right" band wagon. He's been with us through an awful lot and it is widely accepted he's turned down top clubs on several opportunities.

 

It may well be a great moment for those kids, but it's not for Lallana to say that it will be 'life-changing' for them. I'm sure he didn't quite mean it like that but it does come across as self-important and a rather cringey thing to say. Think that would be the case in any context and not evidence of a bandwagon of slamming him. Not sure why you feel the club may have 'leaked' this story either when it was conducted on England duty. Can't recall a negative word from Adam Blackmore about Lallana so unsure what this PR spinning you reference is about.

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I don't think anyone is suggesting it wasn't a big deal, I think the dispute is over him saying "life-changing".

 

That said I do think there's some character assassination.

 

Just another over-reaction in a long line of SaintsWeb over-reactions IMO.

 

Yes, it was an ill-advised phrase to use, but he's hardly a skilled orator who you'd expect better from, and it is being magnified by the possible transfer situation and sour grapes.

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It may well be a great moment for those kids, but it's not for Lallana to say that it will be 'life-changing' for them. I'm sure he didn't quite mean it like that but it does come across as self-important and a rather cringey thing to say. Think that would be the case in any context and not evidence of a bandwagon of slamming him. Not sure why you feel the club may have 'leaked' this story either when it was conducted on England duty. Can't recall a negative word from Adam Blackmore about Lallana so unsure what this PR spinning you reference is about.

 

I'm not referring to the club leaking a story about a comment Adam gave himself in an interview in Brazil ;)

 

I am saying that that has been taken out of context though, which I think most of us agree on. However there has been a fair portion of people jumping on the "bandwagon" and negatively attacking him for it which is unfair if you listen to the actual interview.

 

What I was referring to the snippets of negative stories coming out about Adam very recently, typically relating to him aggravating for a move, wanting to get out of the club and trying to pressure the board for a move prior to the world cup.

 

All stories are leaked for a reason, some are simply done to sell papers etc, but in this case you have to accept that Guan and Blackmore etc are not really gaining anything out of it and are just informing the fans. They have the information due to their proximity to the club and in Guan's case he confirmed that his source had no objection to him posting it on saintsweb.

 

There is only one reason that I can see why the club would happily allow negative stories about the clubs captain and primary figurehead leaking out, and that is so that the fans view him in a negative fashion and won't turn on the board if he is sold. I may be wrong, but that is how I see it.

 

I appreciate all snippets of genuine in the know informations such as that leaked by Guan recently which were generally really insightful, and this is not me bashing him etc. But as stated above, it all serves a purpose re the fans. The sources have connections within the club and either owe their information to goodwill (you scratch my back, I'll scratch etc) or they are the club.

 

Therefore just as we judge information from the press (and many accused Cortese of stirring following MoPo's departure, you have to casst an eye over the opposite side and wonder why it is coming out etc.

 

Until Lallana either says he wants to leave or hands in a transfer request, I have no evidence to doubt his commitment to saints. It was also interesting that he was praising the clubs representation within the England set up today, and saying it was good for the club. Not someone who is aggravating for a move in my book.

 

Time will tell, but i suspect the board may have basically agreed a deal for Adam :scared:

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Afraid you are wrong there. There have been many famous players emerging from the favelas who have ALWAYS inspired the inhabitants, and will do so much more than tourists visiting there. Favelas and football are very close - here's an article that might interest you. http://sites.duke.edu/wcwp/world-cup-2014/politics-in-brazil/the-favela/

 

Don't be a ***** and try and start an argument with me for the sake of it. I can't be wrong about something I never said.

Lallana was an idiot and shouldn't have said it, I was inferring in my post that he probably didn't mean it to cause any harm and that was the point he was probably trying to make i.e he hoped that one of them may inspire a kid through meeting them.

I certainly never made any comment myself on Favelas, the football relationship of favelas and famous players from them, or tourism impact on visiting there and certainly didn't suggest that only England players or Adam Lallana could inspire the inhabitants of poverty stricken South American districts or anything similar so don't try and educate me like some righteous, faux intellectual, mail reading *****.

 

In short **** off and join in with the over the top whingers on Jeremy Vine. ** Ta. :toppa:

 

* Also I don't get why England team being taken to visit Favelas is treated as so contentious when celebrities do it all the f'ing time in parts of poverty stricken Africa and India. It once again feels like the press waiting to round on our England boys. Yes there's certainly a question about tourism of these places and the sheer classlessness of rich overpaid people doing it but let's not limit the debate to football in this instance.

 

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I'm not, so the rest of what you write is irrelevant. But why not try and grow up a little rather than post puerile invective?

 

Sorry Angelman probably didn't react well after a bad day and was tempted to post my own picture of handbags after I wrote it.

 

To be fair I just thought you were trying to over intellectualise by using language uncommon in day to day use in order to hide the fact you're actually very insecure about your own intelligence and forming your own opinions. Simply I thought you were being an idiot for the sake of it, so please accept my sincerest contrafibularities on your well articulated study and argument about Favelas.

 

:lol:

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Giving them money will be life changing, kicking a ball around for a few mins with them won't...

 

"I was going to be a Gangster until this English guy came over and kicked a ball with me, now I want to be a money grabbing football player!"

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As I wrote, while it is unfortunate it was not said with any malice. I realise that the criticism being levelled at him is due to people thinking that he has a somewhat self-aggrandised view of himself, but which PL footballer doesn't? (Well, I don't think RL does, but it was a generalisation) And in his defence, he gets taken there (not voluntarily) and gets asked a question. What was he supposed to say - something esoteric? Maybe he said the first thing that came to mind without really thinking about it. Maybe he meant to say it differently. Isn't it a bit of a non-story? He may well also not know the link between the favelas and football/sport and that Brazilians already have many (sporting) heroes - is that really basis for criticising him? And I hardly think that he meant to come across as being the character portrayed in Huff's subheading that says "To be around me may be a life-changing experience for you."

 

Anyway, I consider actions like Liam Ridgewell posting photos of himself wiping his butt with £20 notes or Phil Bardsley on the casino floor covered in £50 notes is worse.

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