Nolan Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Erm, Lovren is all over the Croation Broadcasting Corporation's website going on about a transfer request. Erm, the croatian state owned media was reporting exactly the same as the UK media. That he was under contract and any decisions on his future is down to Saints. Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-B Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Where has all the 'He's being influenced by Gerrard' talk come from exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 BBC reporting Lallana has asked to leave after World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Where has all the 'He's being influenced by Gerrard' talk come from exactly? No confirmation as far as I'm aware but I'm sure they've spoken about it. I can imagine getting the inside scoop on life at a top club, from a player you grew up admiring, does make it all the more tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 LOL at the "no quotes so it isn't real" head in the sand-ers. Now Adam Blackmore is thenone to blame for unsettling talk. Have a word with yourselves. Lallana wants to go to Liverpool. He pretty much said at the Awards Dinner and in the Programme final game of the season that he was considering the thought of leaving. Didn't say it isn't real did I just that there are no quotes not even on the BBC. Everyone is now saying AL is a **** blah blah blah when all they have to go on is a tweet or two from a couple of journalists bit unfair to hang him based on that don't you think? You need to have a word with yourself and give all your negative posting of rumours a rest for a while as you are starting to sound like you are enjoying SFC being run through the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 BBC reporting Lallana has asked to leave after World Cup As I posted @ 1674 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 He already earns a lot of money, tbf. I'm under no illusions. Lallana and Liverpool are made for each other. If they want him, come to a deal and pay the money. No sensible fan can have too much of a dispute with the Lambert, Puncheon or any of our recent transfers out. They all made sense and were done in the right way. All about opinions but no, not happy with both of those transfers. Fee's we got for both were not enough imo to consider letting them leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Didn't say it isn't real did I just that there are no quotes not even on the BBC. Everyone is now saying AL is a **** blah blah blah when all they have to go on is a tweet or two from a couple of journalists bit unfair to hang him based on that don't you think? You need to have a word with yourself and give all your negative posting of rumours a rest for a while as you are starting to sound like you are enjoying SFC being run through the mud. Blackmore has spoken to the parties involved directly. There isn't much to argue. Adam Lallana wants to leave Saints. It's got nothing to do with Blackmore or Saint Charlie and their "rumours". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Blackmore has spoken to the parties involved directly. There isn't much to argue. Adam Lallana wants to leave Saints. It's got nothing to do with Blackmore or Saint Charlie and their "rumours". Yeah, its just true. Not much more to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Erm, Lovren is all over the Croation Broadcasting Corporation's website going on about a transfer request. Really? This is all I could find. http://sport.hrt.hr/klub-ce-odluciti-o-mojem-eventualnom-transferu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Southampton captain Adam Lallana has told the club he wants to be allowed to leave St Mary's when he returns from the World Cup in Brazil. The midfielder has not put in a transfer request but has made his feelings known to Southampton. So he's asked to leave but hasn't submitted a transfer request? What difference does an official request make - is it just financial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Blackmore has spoken to the parties involved directly. There isn't much to argue. Adam Lallana wants to leave Saints. It's got nothing to do with Blackmore or Saint Charlie and their "rumours". And how would you know? Genuine question dig dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 (edited) All I'd seen is that the board weren't answering his calls without any specifics about what he was calling for. I'm guessing if Reed ignores your calls then you'd try Krueger and so on. I think thats a very benign interpretation. You don't try and go over your 'line manager's head - ie Reed at the moment - by approaching board members directly in any organisation. That's why they wouldn't return his calls, it was unprofessional and inappropriate. Edited 2 June, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 And how would you know? Genuine question dig dig. Blackmore is a BBC journalist who has excellent links and contacts at the club. If he publically states that his information is direct from the parties involved, there is absolutely no reason not to believe him. He wouldn't risk his reputation and contacts at Saints by saying and reporting things which aren't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Blackmore is a BBC journalist who has excellent links and contacts at the club. If he publically states that his information is direct from the parties involved, there is absolutely no reason not to believe him. He wouldn't risk his reputation and contacts at Saints by saying and reporting things which aren't true. Ok - I do realise who he is I've been supporting SFC long enough. You'd bet your house on it being right would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Contrast Adam's stance with Lovren's. Don't you think he wants to go and play for a bigger club and rumours are Liverpool are after him. Came out and said he's happy at Southampton, but that it was up to the club. Has gone off to the world cup and if reports are to be believed Liverpool will be back in for him when he gets back. Why cant Adam just concentrate on the World Cup and sort his future out afterwards, is it because he's so desperate to get away that he worries Liverpool will walk away. Why are they happy to attempt to sign Lovren after WC, but insist Adam is signed before or they'll walk away? I don't buy it, Liverpool and Adam are trying to box the board into a corner imo. Shut up and enjoy the WC and we'll talk when you get back, that is what the club should tell him. I would expect the club captain to announce that the only thing on his mind is the world cup and that he'll see what happens afterwards. Why cant he say he's happy and it's up to the club in public until things calm down, even if he does want to go desperately. It strikes me that he's putting pressure on the board when they are at their weakest and that is not becoming of the captain's position. Spot on. He already earns a lot of money, tbf. I'm under no illusions. Lallana and Liverpool are made for each other. If they want him, come to a deal and pay the money. No sensible fan can have too much of a dispute with the Lambert, Puncheon or any of our recent transfers out. They all made sense and were done in the right way. This is a lot more difficult to take. We've provided the foundation for his success, he's in the final 23 for the WC, yet he publicly wants out against the club's and fans wishes. If I were in his shoes, what would I do? I'd be careful not to sh!t where I live or burn my bridges. Spot on as well. Seems most do agree on something for a change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Amazed that there are still people with their heads in the sands on this!! I'm sure people were still believing MP would be staying, right up until 10 mins before his unveiling as Spurs manager. Unless the board get their collective fingers out of their arses and get a really tight grip on this unravelling situation, then it most certainly #isnothappening (Fancy statements mean nothing, when on the back of it, players are requesting to leave left right a centre - too much waffle, not enough action) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 (edited) I think thats a very benign interpretation. You don't try and go over your 'line manager's head - ie Reed at the moment - by approaching board members directly in any organisation. That's why they wouldn't return his calls, it was unprofessional and inappropriate. Blackmore's tweets said nothing about Lallana pleading his case. Oh you edited your posts - now it's about 'interpretation' :lol: Edited 2 June, 2014 by shurlock Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Ok - I do realise who he is I've been supporting SFC long enough. You'd bet your house on it being right would you? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I think thats a very benign interpretation. You don't try and go over your 'line manager's head - ie Reed at the moment - by approaching board members directly in any organisation. That's why they wouldn't return his calls, it was unprofessional and inappropriate. Yeah you might be right actually. Not sure how it works at football clubs! players are requesting to leave left right a centre I know! Shaw on the left, Adam on the right...and the left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Amazed that there are still people with their heads in the sands on this!! I'm sure people were still believing MP would be staying, right up until 10 mins before his unveiling as Spurs manager. Unless the board get their collective fingers out of their arses and get a really tight grip on this unravelling situation, then it most certainly #isnothappening (Fancy statements mean nothing, when on the back of it, players are requesting to leave left right a centre - too much waffle, not enough action) There will be another statement after Lallana leaves ...and another statement after Shaw leaves ...and another statement after Lovren leaves. Its clear to me these statements are just about buying time while the SFC carcass is picked clean of any playing assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 There will be another statement after Lallana leaves ...and another statement after Shaw leaves ...and another statement after Lovren leaves. Its clear to me these statements are just about buying time while the SFC carcass is picked clean of any playing assets. They simply mean nothing, and I'm amazed that so many people keep buying them! I kind of laughed a bit when I read....''We will not be accepting any offers'' which was followed on the next line by ''However, we accepted an offer from Liverpool'' Yeah, really good stuff. Utter amateurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Amazed that there are still people with their heads in the sands on this!! I'm sure people were still believing MP would be staying, right up until 10 mins before his unveiling as Spurs manager. Unless the board get their collective fingers out of their arses and get a really tight grip on this unravelling situation, then it most certainly #isnothappening (Fancy statements mean nothing, when on the back of it, players are requesting to leave left right a centre - too much waffle, not enough action) I think you've got a bit confused along the way. What else could the board be doing in this situation? They've done everything right so far. Which other players are requesting to leave? I can only see Lallana at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Blackmore's tweets said nothing about Lallana pleading his case. Oh you edited your posts - now it's about 'interpretation' So why would he phone different board members - chat about the weather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Yes Fair enough. I just like to see it quoted by the person themselves (bit old school like at). As far as I'm concerned any player (let alone the Captain) that doesn't want to be here should just do one but at a price that SFC dictate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 They simply mean nothing, and I'm amazed that so many people keep buying them! I kind of laughed a bit when I read....''We will not be accepting any offers'' which was followed on the next line by ''However, we accepted an offer from Liverpool'' Yeah, really good stuff. Utter amateurs. Put it this way, it's better than silence. I don't know if you were complaining about silence when that's what we were getting, but a lot of people were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach 38s Snippet on #LFC's interest in Lallana. Appears reported £25m offer a red herring, with bid to #SaintsFC actually less with ludicrous add-ons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 On face book saying after the World Cup . Which goes to prove the echo are talking ******** when they said saints are talking talking with both clubs and woy has said they can carry out Medicals during the World Cup . If this is Blackmore writing this then he has totally discredited himself . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 na·ive nīˈēv adjective (of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment. "the rather naive young man had been totally misled" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach 38s Snippet on #LFC's interest in Lallana. Appears reported £25m offer a red herring, with bid to #SaintsFC actually less with ludicrous add-ons Interesting. If we're after £20m after Bournemouth take their cut (as has been reported) I can't imagine we'll settle for that. Unless the add-ons are being sold as a way of avoiding a payout to Bournemouth? I expect £25m was leaked from Liverpool's end to make it seem stronger but if it's tied up in things like winner's medals then they can get stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 (Lallana) has made the transition from club player to international with ease, admitting after Friday night’s 3-0 friendly win against Peru: "It’s great playing with world-class players." http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/479441/Southampton-want-30m-each-for-Luke-Shaw-and-Adam-Lallana A nice comment for all his international team mates at Southampton. (And I wouldn't call all the England players world_class.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I honestly don't believe we will get what we want for him, I cannot see a club paying it in the way we want it. (Bournemouth's clause causes a lot of issues) This will drag for a while and I truly hope it doesn't become even more unsavoury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Chris No @nathizzle 3m @SimonPeach ludicrous in terms of size or in terms of things that aren't likely to happen? Simon Peach @SimonPeach 2m @nathizzle Latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So its £25m if.....Liverpool wins the Premier league, Champions League and.....10 of their fans can spell? A no-brainer due to the last clause I guess... As I always say about transfers. It´s all very easy......put up or shut up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Interesting. If we're after £20m after Bournemouth take their cut (as has been reported) I can't imagine we'll settle for that. Unless the add-ons are being sold as a way of avoiding a payout to Bournemouth? I expect £25m was leaked from Liverpool's end to make it seem stronger. chance that we may not reach any agreement with Liverpool if they are coming in with bids way below our valuation. Adam had better hope another big team is interested or else start preparing to be here next season . Will have a couple of bridges to build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Perhaps an add-on if he scores at the World Cup? chance that we may not reach any agreement with Liverpool if they are coming in with bids way below our valuation. Adam had better hope another big team is interested or else start preparing to be here next season . Will have a couple of bridges to build. Mmm, I wonder if Tottenham might offer something more palatable to the board with player(s) plus cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I honestly don't believe we will get what we want for him, I cannot see a club paying it in the way we want it. (Bournemouth's clause causes a lot of issues) This will drag for a while and I truly hope it doesn't become even more unsavoury. Why? We should keep him and not them him dictate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Simon Peach @SimonPeach 38s Snippet on #LFC's interest in Lallana. Appears reported £25m offer a red herring, with bid to #SaintsFC actually less with ludicrous add-ons Not surprised. Liverpool seem to be acting like utter cheapskates, no doubt because they have so much deepening of squad needed and not particularly deep pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I think it's fairly clear that Lallana was going to leave from his 'I've had some great memories here' speech at the Awards Dinner, if not before. Not sure what it is the board have supposedly done wrong here - he's had a great season, so there's demand for him from the 'bigger clubs, it's going to happen. I think Shaw will probably leave too although of that I'm not so certain. If he doesn't go this year, he'll be off in January or next year - not the board's fault, it's what happens. Wait until the new boss gets his feet under the table, then we will undoubtedly lose a few players and no doubt some new one's will come in too. All this noise is happening because the board haven't accepted offers on him so far and to my mind, that's a good thing isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/479441/Southampton-want-30m-each-for-Luke-Shaw-and-Adam-Lallana A nice comment for all his international team mates at Southampton. (And I wouldn't call all the England players world_class.) That really does my head in. So, Phil Jones, Jagielka, Smalling, Welbeck, Glen Johnson. World ****ing class? Not a bloody chance. We've got better players at our club. All this world class ******** does my head in. There's no world class players in the england side. World class players - Xavi Iniesta Alonso Messi Augero Ronaldo Neymar That's the level.....unfortunately Milner and Smalling don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Demanding to clear £20m is not unreasonable. It will cost that to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I honestly don't believe we will get what we want for him, I cannot see a club paying it in the way we want it. (Bournemouth's clause causes a lot of issues) This will drag for a while and I truly hope it doesn't become even more unsavoury. Very much of the view if we don't get very close to clubs valuation of 30m we simply don't sell. Now I'm sure that'll anger adam but he'll simply have to knuckle down with view to impressing so that bids come back in at a later date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Beer Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So sad though that once AL played for England just seems a different person, maybe even more arrogant. That pains me to say as other than Le Tiss, Lallana is someone I'm a huge fan of. All this "I want to leave", really has he forgotten he signed. 5 year deal last year? Why sign it if you might change your mind?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 (edited) That really does my head in. So, Phil Jones, Jagielka, Smalling, Welbeck, Glen Johnson. World ****ing class? Not a bloody chance. We've got better players at our club. All this world class ******** does my head in. There's no world class players in the england side. World class players - Xavi Iniesta Alonso Messi Augero Ronaldo Neymar That's the level.....unfortunately Milner and Smalling don't count. We can dispute definitions till the cows come home but I don't think you can deny that Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney are world class in the sense that most people use the term. Ashley Cole too. So sad though that once AL played for England just seems a different person, maybe even more arrogant. That pains me to say as other than Le Tiss, Lallana is someone I'm a huge fan of. All this "I want to leave", really has he forgotten he signed. 5 year deal last year? Why sign it if you might change your mind?! Why did Rodriguez sign a contract at Burnley, Wanyama a contract at Celtic, Lovren a contract at Lyon when they decided to come to us? Transfer fees exist because clubs have to buy out contracts. It is simply what happens. EDIT: Another thing I spotted this morning was that Man United are in for Konoplyanka, who Liverpool tried to sign in January. If they both want him there might be a bidding war which you'd have to fancy United to win. The price might not go above £25m but it could persuade Liverpool to break their valuation of Lallana by a few million if it gets a player tied down. Edited 2 June, 2014 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Where has all the 'He's being influenced by Gerrard' talk come from exactly? Alpine_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 What's all this bollacks with everything being leaked in the press? Is that how transfers and management appointments are conducted these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So why would he phone different board members - chat about the weather? Through the powers of mongboard alchemy, you've turned one sentence into something completely different. Brilliant. Many interpretations are possible: perhaps Lallana was ignored by Reed and decided to call another board member; perhaps the CEO and other board members have stake in this matter and are legitimate people to speak to -do you have an org chart at hand; perhaps Blackmore in the space of a tweet was using shorthand; perhaps Lallana wanted to know whether to bring sunblock factor 30 or 50; perhaps Blackmore's interpretation that the matter wasn't dealt with properly by the board is ultimately the correct one. You and I don't have the foggiest -that's fine, we can spout c**p and speculate; but taking the high ground and claiming 'reports said' is bunkum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 2 June, 2014 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Contract mean sod all..... Unless they run out. They protect the club if anything as the player does not go on a free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Blackmore: "#saintsfc's reluctance to sell Lallana may have a lot to do with fact that actual guaranteed money offered by #lfc is well short of 25M" "#saintsfc have to give 25% to #afcb when it completes - so if guaranteed is only say 15-20, #saintsfc end up well short of their valuation" Crikey, if it's as low as £15-20m before Bournemouth's cut and Liverpool are trying to force the deal through on those terms we might just weather this fiasco. I'm guessing a few million of the add-ons would be for standard stuff like appearances, but if Lallana has to win the Champions League for us to take home £18m for him then there's no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 He's definitely changed... Front page of tomorrows Sun. You're not a true England star til you make it on the front pages lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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