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I think that some of the vitriol being aimed at Lallana is a tad OTT to be honest. Yes, he signed a four year contract last year and so in theory that should be that, but life isn't quite that black and white. What is so wrong with seeking some clarification from his employers about what the current situation is, just for some peace of mind and to allow him to concentrate on doing his best for England. Some seem to be making the assumption that his he having some sort of tantrum and demanding the club accept the offer and give him a transfer. Maybe all he is doing is trying to get an update, one way or another, to put his mind (somewhat) at rest. It is only natural.....anyone who says that he should just simply ignore it all because he has a fresh four year contract is not allowing for the fact that he is a human being - not a robot.

 

I thought the Chairman of the Club made an unequivocal statement on transfers last week, did he not? So are you saying that Adam didn't accept that? Or that believes he should be getting preferential treatment on this matter? How much clarification of his "future" does he want? Either he puts in a transfer request, or we notify him when an offer comes in that matches our valuation of him. End of. Get on with starring on the world's stage and stop coming across as a prize W anker.

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I thought the Chairman of the Club made an unequivocal statement on transfers last week, did he not? So are you saying that Adam didn't accept that? Or that believes he should be getting preferential treatment on this matter? How much clarification of his "future" does he want? Either he puts in a transfer request, or we notify him when an offer comes in that matches our valuation of him. End of. Get on with starring on the world's stage and stop coming across as a prize W anker.

 

Yep.

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I thought the Chairman of the Club made an unequivocal statement on transfers last week, did he not? So are you saying that Adam didn't accept that? Or that believes he should be getting preferential treatment on this matter? How much clarification of his "future" does he want? Either he puts in a transfer request, or we notify him when an offer comes in that matches our valuation of him. End of. Get on with starring on the world's stage and stop coming across as a prize W anker.
I am not saying anything other than I would understand why somebody in his position would want some sort of update. I have no idea whether or not he has even asked for one other than what I have read on here - I an merely expressing an opinion. If it were me, and it was stopping me concentrate on matters in hand, I would want some sort of update also.
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I am not saying anything other than I would understand why somebody in his position would want some sort of update. I have no idea whether or not he has even asked for one other than what I have read on here - I an merely expressing an opinion. If it were me, and it was stopping me concentrate on matters in hand, I would want some sort of update also.

 

Look, I appreciate your point of view. However, it is not the CLUB that is stopping him from concentrating on matters in hand is it? Or are you saying that they should update Adam hourly on their communictions with LFC? That comes across as just being a little NEEDY if you don't mind me saying it. If he can't concentrate, it sounds to me its because the Club are not yielding to the pressure being put on them by LFC to conclude a deal pre- World Cup. And he soooo wants this move sorted..... doesn't that really sound pathetic when you read it? He can sort this out TODAY and put his mind at rest for the World Cup by handing in a transfer request. It's really that simple. Perhaps his agent should advise him to do that - then there is no ambiguity.

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So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way.

 

I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly.

 

And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not.

 

I think your judgement is clouded on this. Why does AL need to speak to the board about his future? There was a clear statement saying players wouldn't be sold at least until the new manager is appointed. Liverpool and Lallana bith seem to have their fingers in their ears. The new manager hasn't been appointed yet!

 

And this rubbish about deserving a move after years of loyal service? When did a big club last come in for AL? As far as I can see the first moment a big club's bid for him he's throwing his toys out of the pram and trying to force the transfer through. This despite being club captain, having signed a five year contract 12 months ago and stating he'd snap your hand off to finish his career at Southampton. He was happy enough to do this on the back of a pretty average first season in the Premiership. One exceptional season and he wants off. Sounds like the complete opposite of a loyal servant to me.

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Look, I appreciate your point of view. However, it is not the CLUB that is stopping him from concentrating on matters in hand is it? Or are you saying that they should update Adam hourly on their communictions with LFC? That comes across as just being a little NEEDY if you don't mind me saying it. If he can't concentrate, it sounds to me its because the Club are not yielding to the pressure being put on them by LFC to conclude a deal pre- World Cup. And he soooo wants this move sorted..... doesn't that really sound pathetic when you read it? He can sort this out TODAY and put his mind at rest for the World Cup by handing in a transfer request. It's really that simple. Perhaps his agent should advise him to do that - then there is no ambiguity.
Fair enough. You are obviously not alone in your viewpoint, and I understand the cast iron facts behind it. I am just trying to look at it from his point of view....if it was me I would be the same. That said, I have no idea what contact he (or his agent) has made with the club anyway, but now I am just repeating myself.
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personally I think he should go. To get 20m for a player who is tricky but does not have a shot on him ( i know there is the odd exception)who does not head the ball and has now shown his want to get away.

One super season is what his value is built on. I know fans love him as the see him as some kind of loyal star player, but patently he is not. Let him try and cope in the goldfish bowl of Anfield and the pressure that brings, i remember the great Mick Channon doing the same, he was a bit of a failure and eventually he saw the end of his career here where he was at his happiest and he blossomed again

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And this rubbish about deserving a move after years of loyal service?
Is there any actual evidence to suggest he has made any such comment? Maybe there is - I don't know. As far as I know that is just idle conjecture from somebodies tweet or post.
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Is there any actual evidence to suggest he has made any such comment? Maybe there is - I don't know. As far as I know that is just idle conjecture from somebodies tweet or post.

 

I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly.

 

Fair enough - I just based my opinion on this from Weston Saint and Adam Blackmore's tweets

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Indeed, far too much vitriol being poured on players who've done well for us for a considerable time.

I must admit that I did warn you all that this was likely to happen if (probably should have been when) we failed to move to the next level as planned. The writing was on the wall when Cortese resigned, we had a plan, it wasn't fulfilled, these are the consequences.

 

Even If NC had stayed we would still be in the same postion we have good players who want to move to bigger clubs. We failed to get into Europe this season, the only carrot that might have kept people here, so NC or no bigger clubs would still be circling like sharks and NC wouldn't have been in any better postion to stop things than the current board. Telling players we have a plan for CL football is a pretty moot point when some club already in the CL comes a calling....

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Also, just to remember, this agitating from Lallana's camp weakens our position and strengthens Liverpool's - all this from our Captain who spoke of how keen he was to end his career with us not too long ago.

 

Yep, lack of class from someone who is supposed to be skipper. If Liverpool want him, they'll pay the dosh after the WC. In response to Weston's post, how can the club answer those questions until the new manager is installed?!

 

Compare Adam's behaviour with Rickie's on the other thread - easy to see who the Saints legend is and who isn't. Best thing is that Koeman gets the job and forces £30m out of Liverpool so Adam can count his money and we can move on with people who are passionate about playing for SFC. Can't remember Shearer and others who have left like Bridgey behaving like this, it's more like Kenwyne Jones. Rickie respects people and has had to work for a living to fulfil his dreams, hence the sickening sense of entitlement isn't there. Lambert understands your average fan.

 

Adam is best advised to feign an injury when he has to play against us next season because the abuse he'll get would make Darren Anderton or Harry Redknapp blush.

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Compare Adam's behaviour with Rickie's on the other thread - easy to see who the Saints legend is and who isn't.
So you are comparing the behavior of a player who got a move to Liverpool with the (alleged) behavior of a player who has not?
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So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way.

 

I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly.

 

And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not.

 

Weston, please tell us how the club are supposed to comment on his future when the new manager is yet to be installed? It'll be up to Koeman or whoever we bring in. Doing a move before the WC was Liverpool and Adam's target, not Saints and if he wants to blame anyone, it's MP because he messed us about with Spurs. Could have had Koeman in post by now.

 

His behaviour, and that of his advisors, is appalling and he no longer has my support as a Saints player. Clattenburg took a lot of stick on this forum but he was right. Hope we get the £30m from Liverpool on OUR timescales with a replacement in train and everyone moves on but until that happens I suggest Adam shuts up on gets on with the WC. Compare his behaviour and Rickie's - you can see who the Saints legend is.

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Also I'm sick of hearing Adam deserves champions league football Adam deserves his own personal arse wiper etc, what about what the fans deserve? I say make him honour his contract, stand firm like Liverpool did with the Suarez,

 

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This if we cave in to one player it will set a precedent. I would tell Lallana and Shaw to forget about any move.

 

We would be better off having them sulking in the reserves than having half our squad thinking they can just ship whenever they fancy it.

 

The Suarez situation proves that you can stand firm and after a bit of initial sulking it won't effect their performances.

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Just a thought. I suppose Adam, like everyone else, has an agent? If so isnt it his job to speak to the club and his client regarding possible moves and not Adams?

 

Isn't Lallana represented by his Dad or some other close family member? If he had a high powered, knobbish agent he'd probably be gone by now.

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No idea to be honest, but it's not his Dad.

 

 

I'm not sure that players can't be represented by family members who aren't agents though. Did AOC have an agent other than his dad? I'm not at all sure what the rules are nowadays. Think you've got to be licensed to tout for business but family representation is still allowed for individuals.

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Not really, the only reason he's still here is because no one has met our value of him.

 

 

Changing his agent to the ultra knob Barnett got Mauricio out of the door pretty quickly though didn't it. A good agent can persuade the buying club to up their bid, don't know what they offer in exchange but it must be something. Look at the wrangle with Wanyama last season....

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My God, WTF is wrong with some of you?

 

I'm as p*ssed off at Lallana as most of you but - as many of them are when it comes to the Board - some of these comments are way, way over the top.

 

Lallana's conduct may be symptomatic of the ills inside football these days, but he didn't exactly invent those ills.

 

He has been, until now, a loyal and highly valuable player for us - for more years than Rickie, and nobody (as far as I can see) is defending his actions; they are just saying that he deserved to have his phone call answered/returned. By all means, tell him things he doesn't want to hear, and even be quite pointed about it, but return the damn call.

 

As I said earlier, let's not lose sight of the fact that (with Spurs' interest apparently waning, and with Liverpool setting out an ultimatum - and having other options) Lallana could still be a Saints player next season.

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My God, WTF is wrong with some of you?

 

I'm as p*ssed off at Lallana as most of you but - as many of them are when it comes to the Board - some of these comments are way, way over the top.

 

Lallana's conduct may be symptomatic of the ills inside football these days, but he didn't exactly invent those ills.

 

He has been, until now, a loyal and highly valuable player for us - for more years than Rickie, and nobody (as far as I can see) is defending his actions; they are just saying that he deserved to have his phone call answered/returned. By all means, tell him things he doesn't want to hear, and even be quite pointed about it, but return the damn call.

 

As I said earlier, let's not lose sight of the fact that (with Spurs' interest apparently waning, and with Liverpool setting out an ultimatum - and having other options) Lallana could still be a Saints player next season.

 

Agree - also find it slightly odd why people are making a moral distinction between Lambert and Lallana.

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Changing his agent to the ultra knob Barnett got Mauricio out of the door pretty quickly though didn't it. A good agent can persuade the buying club to up their bid, don't know what they offer in exchange but it must be something. Look at the wrangle with Wanyama last season....

 

Lallana would still be here no matter who his agent was. They're not powerful enough to lower our value of him by £10mill. If he didn't have a 25% sell on clause he'd probably already be gone.

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The board have offered relatively little clarification to where their direction is not only to the fans but as I understand it not really to the players or originally to MoPo either. Therefore it would be, for me, if I was in ALs position, difficult to reach a decision about where my future lies.

 

Should a clarification of the clubs ambition have been forthcoming and shoukd it have been all but matching that of our star players Im sure that the unrest would have been a lot less then it is now. They have hardly covered themselves in glory since their inception as the new board have they ? Manager and legend has left and Cork/Fonte (the latter is a massive dressing room influence) have been left in the lurch.

 

Whilst IF it is AL agitating for a move then that would be v v dissapointing for a lad thats always been v pro Saints I cant see it occuring without some sort of background trouble (as Blackmore alludes to) also I dont think RL would have slipped out the back door with the same pace as he did either.

 

Somethings up, their is unrest in the camp and the future is certainly hazy at best.

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Weston, please tell us how the club are supposed to comment on his future when the new manager is yet to be installed? It'll be up to Koeman or whoever we bring in. Doing a move before the WC was Liverpool and Adam's target, not Saints and if he wants to blame anyone, it's MP because he messed us about with Spurs. Could have had Koeman in post by now.

 

His behaviour, and that of his advisors, is appalling and he no longer has my support as a Saints player. Clattenburg took a lot of stick on this forum but he was right. Hope we get the £30m from Liverpool on OUR timescales with a replacement in train and everyone moves on but until that happens I suggest Adam shuts up on gets on with the WC. Compare his behaviour and Rickie's - you can see who the Saints legend is.

 

I'm tending to agree, even to the extent that like you I'm getting a bit hacked off with Lallana. I do hope that the Club are as good as their word and that they won't even consider any offer from Liverpool until our new manager has arrived. Liverpool have indicated that £25 million is their final offer. What arrogance from them if they believe that such a negotiating tactic will have us quaking in our boots, especially now that we have made a statement saying that we will not sell any more of our players before we appoint our new manager. If they are unprepared to up their offer to a level that we would consider too good to turn down, then all well and good, but otherwise they can go and get stuffed.

 

Nobody is fooled by their attempts to get Lallana before the World Cup where he might well distinguish himself and therefore command a higher price afterwards. I read an article about him a month ago suggesting he was worth £15 million. A player is worth what somebody is prepared to pay for him, but also has a value to the selling club based on what it might cost us to replace him. I really do hope that Liverpool throw a strop and stick to their threat that this was their final offer. I'm sure that they are surprised that they can't just snap their fingers and expect players to prostrate themselves in front of the mighty scousers, but I'm sure that they will be able to buy another player as good as Lallana for much less money, somebody who has dreamed since boyhood of playing for a major world renowned club like them.

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My God, WTF is wrong with some of you?

 

I'm as p*ssed off at Lallana as most of you but - as many of them are when it comes to the Board - some of these comments are way, way over the top.

 

Lallana's conduct may be symptomatic of the ills inside football these days, but he didn't exactly invent those ills.

 

He has been, until now, a loyal and highly valuable player for us - for more years than Rickie, and nobody (as far as I can see) is defending his actions; they are just saying that he deserved to have his phone call answered/returned. By all means, tell him things he doesn't want to hear, and even be quite pointed about it, but return the damn call.

 

As I said earlier, let's not lose sight of the fact that (with Spurs' interest apparently waning, and with Liverpool setting out an ultimatum - and having other options) Lallana could still be a Saints player next season.

 

I don't think any of us are in a position to judge re: phone calls. Maybe Lallana has been pestering the board and they are fed up with saying no.

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To be honest Lallana isn't worth 30 million and I very much doubt that anyone will give us that much for him. I'd sell him at 25 because even that is in excess of his real value. A poor WC and we'll get nothing for him, no-one will want him. As I've said about Shaw, I'll say again about Lallana, there is better available for less, just the fact of him being English seems to dope his value..

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To be honest Lallana isn't worth 30 million and I very much doubt that anyone will give us that much for him. I'd sell him at 25 because even that is in excess of his real value. A poor WC and we'll get nothing for him, no-one will want him. As I've said about Shaw, I'll say again about Lallana, there is better available for less, just the fact of him being English seems to dope his value..

 

I dunno, I reckon this new TV deal will see silly money being thrown around.

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This looks to have flown over your head a bit. Lallana wants to go and play Champions League football and is trying to kick up a fuss via the media because Saints are saying 'no'. Lallana is in the wrong here, not the club.

 

The same Lallana who said at the end of the season he wants to hear the ambitions of the club, hear what's planned and then he'll make a decision? And now we're hearing he's upset that he hasn't got that information.

 

All we know is what Blackmore has tweeted. We don't know what's going on in Adam's head and what he really feels, so no, it hasn't flown over my head, I'm just not forming an opinion on second hand (maybe third, or fourth hand) information that could well be utterly biased and agenda-driven, or just plain wrong. For all we know you're right, Adam is throwing his toys out of the pram and if so, **** him, cash in on the spoilt brat. Equally, for all we know you're wrong and Adam just needs assurances that we are investing to push on to the next stage in our progression and we want CL football, at which point he'll be happy to stay.

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I dunno, I reckon this new TV deal will see silly money being thrown around.

 

 

And 30 million for Lallana with us having to dob 7.5 million of that to Bournemouth is indeed silly money. The more we ask, the more they get, it will eventually price him out of the market. Giving Bournemouth such a sum for a player that signed for us 14 years ago and for whom they have had no realistic part in the development is absurd.

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I dunno, I reckon this new TV deal will see silly money being thrown around.

Totally agree. We have to see some kind of player price inflation as a result of the new TV money coming in. We might sell Shaw for 30m and have to spend 70m to re-buy Danny Fox.

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My God, WTF is wrong with some of you?

 

I'm as p*ssed off at Lallana as most of you but - as many of them are when it comes to the Board - some of these comments are way, way over the top.

 

Lallana's conduct may be symptomatic of the ills inside football these days, but he didn't exactly invent those ills.

 

He has been, until now, a loyal and highly valuable player for us - for more years than Rickie, and nobody (as far as I can see) is defending his actions; they are just saying that he deserved to have his phone call answered/returned. By all means, tell him things he doesn't want to hear, and even be quite pointed about it, but return the damn call.

 

As I said earlier, let's not lose sight of the fact that (with Spurs' interest apparently waning, and with Liverpool setting out an ultimatum - and having other options) Lallana could still be a Saints player next season.

perhaps everything AL is told would then be passed onto his agent and then the buyers. It is a case of the tail wagging the dog if we are not careful. iam pleased the board are showing some steel, but also not bothered if AL now goes
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All this kerfuffle for someone that can only play for 60 mins :-)

 

If he wants out,let him go imo (at the right price)....I understand that its Rickie's home grown team but if Ads or Lambert think they will walk into that 1st team they have another thing coming,the grass is always greener etc etc

Liverpool have bigger plans this summer than signing Ads or Lambert,they will deffo strengthen the defence but will know doubt add a winger or two.

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What's with all this loyalty AL has allegedly shown. I can't remember a bid coming in for him before and him electing to turn it down and stay with us !

 

Pretty sure there was one from a higher league when we were in Div1?

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What's with all this loyalty AL has allegedly shown. I can't remember a bid coming in for him before and him electing to turn it down and stay with us !

 

Not from a big club thats true, but this is different, as people have already pointed out no doubt Gerrard is in his bloody ear all the time, he hears what they earn, what life is like at a big club etc etc and for some reason now the Champions League is the be all and end all of what a player wants to play in !

 

Not so long ago wasn't it his dream to play for England and he has managed that, and done it whilst playing for Southampton. But now a competition on a Tuesday night which lasts a couple of months if you don't get out the group stage is the icing on the cake ! Its crap.

 

He was quite happy to sign a four year deal with Saints, quite happy to see his salary increase with every progression the club made and now he wants his loyalty rewarded by being allowed to eff off to Liverpool.

 

Thanks for that Adam.

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If lallana is throwing his toys out the pram (speculation) then quite frankly if I was the board I would be even less inclined to let him go. He may say he has been loyal servant but quite simply he signed a contract and no doubt in order to get a juicy wage and other bonuses. He can be a drama queen and sit the season with the reserves and Osvaldo or he can roll his sleeves up and make someone else think he's worth as much as we currently value him at.

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i wonder if lallana uses the same logic with his bird? "Listen, bird," Lallana would say to his bird, "I have been loyalty to you for quite a few years now, i think it's only fair i get a free shot at Jorgie Porter from hollyoaks."

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