Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Why are we denegrating our captain and best player just because some journalist on Twitter is saying that he's kicking up a fuss? I find it very strange that you are all so trusting of someone who has repeatedly put down this new board, released rumours of numerous unsettled players, and then has, until this Lallana story, failed to expand on his point when asked. When under hard questioning each and every time he's come off looking like someone who exagerrates his point to get people to read his tweet/stories at best, and a blatant liar at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Come on Jeff, surely you don't begrudge football supporters from being over excitable and fickle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I remain of the opinion that Liverpool probably wouldn't have signed SRL unless they were confident of getting AL to go with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 And how would he go about doing that getting a call or a few messages from Lallana or his reps? He is a safe pair of hands, but he's only human and has to take a punt on bits of info he's given, he's always going to put that out into the public domain. So who is leaking the info and why? Or putting calls in. I know plenty of journos - they know when they are being played. Of course, many happily collude to get a story. Hopefully Blackmore has a bit more integrity and tried to call the club to corroborate the story etc. But who knows. It's obvious why stories like this might be leaked -whether Lallana and his camp would actually mislead a journo and the public is another matter, however, and quite an accusation. Finally, lets not forget the background for all this - quite a few players have already mentioned the wall of silence around the club. Many of them have no obvious axes to grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Maybe Lallana would be better off ringing Liverpool board and telling them that if they want him that badly they pay the asking price as he has 4 years left on a contact he was only too glad to sign not that long ago. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Why are we denegrating our captain and best player just because some journalist on Twitter is saying that he's kicking up a fuss? I find it very strange that you are all so trusting of someone who has repeatedly put down this new board, released rumours of numerous unsettled players, and then has, until this Lallana story, failed to expand on his point when asked. When under hard questioning each and every time he's come off looking like someone who exagerrates his point to get people to read his tweet/stories at best, and a blatant liar at worst. Don't you also find it strange Jeff that our Captain and best player hasn't actually said what he wants to do. Aside from the comment about discussing his future when the seasons over, hang on he not so long ago signed a longer contract so what's to discuss? I know it's only a small minority of Saints fans on here but the silence from Lallana is deafening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 (edited) Why are we denegrating our captain and best player just because some journalist on Twitter is saying that he's kicking up a fuss? I find it very strange that you are all so trusting of someone who has repeatedly put down this new board, released rumours of numerous unsettled players, and then has, until this Lallana story, failed to expand on his point when asked. When under hard questioning each and every time he's come off looking like someone who exagerrates his point to get people to read his tweet/stories at best, and a blatant liar at worst. Did he steal your pie or something? Do you know something we don't? Because you seem to be joining lots of dots that don't exist. Of course, it's in Blackmore interests to exaggerate his point and attribute false statements to players because that's the way he is able to build trust and contacts. Players will be dying to talk to Blackmore in the future. Are you really that dense? Edited 2 June, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 If i were AL id be getting my head on and concentrating on having (and enjoying) a WC. We are quite tight not to sell beforehand, if he turns in a few performances to the level of some of those he did for us this season his value will be 30m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Don't you also find it strange Jeff that our Captain and best player hasn't actually said what he wants to do. Aside from the comment about discussing his future when the seasons over, hang on he not so long ago signed a longer contract so what's to discuss? I know it's only a small minority of Saints fans on here but the silence from Lallana is deafening. I have no doubt that he wants to leave. None whatsoever. However, I don't believe that he would personally be calling 'board members'. As Blackmore has consistently said on Twitter, the only person to deal with footballing matters is Les Reed, so I am confused as to why he would phone board members (plural)when they have nothing to do with accepting an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 If i were AL id be getting my head down and concentrating on having (and enjoying) a WC. We are quite right not to sell beforehand, if he turns in a few performances to the level of some of those he did for us this season his value will be 30m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Did he steal your pie or something? Do you know something we don't? Because you seem to be joining lots of dots that don't exist. Of course, it's in Blackmore interests to exaggerate his point and attribute false statements to players because that's the way he is able to build trust and contacts in the future. Are you really that dense? So why were none of the unsettled players brought up in the interview with RK? Why will he not expand on his point as to WHY the players are unhappy on Twitter when asked? He engages in conversations, and then ignores when he doesn't like the line of questions. He has been massively inconsistent in this, and that's why I don't trust him. He also did the same in January when Cortese left, and nothing happened then. Considering the amount of people that are saying our board need to be transparent, I am flabbergasted that you don't want that from journalists that are being pretty damn derogatory about our club and board. Completely hypocritical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Did he steal your pie or something? Do you know something we don't? Because you seem to be joining lots of dots that don't exist. Of course, it's in Blackmore interests to exaggerate his point and attribute false statements to players because that's the way he is able to build trust and contacts. Players will be dying to talk to Blackmore in the future. Are you really that dense? Also, what have I said there that is untrue? I am happy to hold my hands up and say I'm wrong but he isn't providing enough information for me to think he's not using a massive amount of hyperbole in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Correct. "They're not answering my calls" is just a proxy for "they won't let me leave". It's an easy card to play, and true enough some fans have swallowed it whole. AL needs to show far more patience IMO, as anyone who has tried to buy tickets over the phone will know that they have to wait for 2/3 hours sometimes to get through. Perhaps someone on here can give him that 0271 number. He has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way. I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly. And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way. I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly. And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not. They don't but they often get a loyalty basis based on the number of years left on their contract. Sometimes this is waived depending on how desperate the player is to leave. It's a shame Lallana's camp chose to leak this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way. I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly. And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not. But what's to discuss? He wants to go but they don't like the offer. The transfer fee, and frankly whether we sell him at all, is a matter for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 This is all going to end horribly isn't it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way. I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly. And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not. Why was he phoning? Don't the young people of today do everything by text or facebook or whatever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way. I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly. And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not. Why does he need to discuss his future? I thought it sounded arrogant when, towards end of season, he started talking about sorting out his future in the summer. No Adam, you did that last summer. Your future is 4 years he....unless the club come to you with an accepted offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way. I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly. And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not. Also, who was he phoning, on a Sunday? It's off-season and a Sunday whilst he's off with the England squad preparing for the World Cup? Surely they wouldn't be expecting a call, he's about to play in the biggest tournament in his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Why was he phoning? Don't the young people of today do everything by text or facebook or whatever? Exactly. He should've SnapChatted Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I do love some of the reporting today, along the lines of "Liverpool are not prepared to go above £25m and have warned Southampton that they will now look at other options". Really, they have warned us that the deal might not go ahead? Oh oh. What a great grasp of how we are praying that it will not fall apart and that we get the cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 @bigadamsport: >> yesterday relationship between Adam Lallana & club worsened after a number of his calls to #saintsfc board members were ignored Maybe the board have already made their posistion clear to Adam? That he wont be sold until after the world cup & when a new manager is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 (edited) Or putting calls in. I know plenty of journos - they know when they are being played. Of course, many happily collude to get a story. Hopefully Blackmore has a bit more integrity and tried to call the club to corroborate the story etc. But who knows. It's obvious why stories like this might be leaked -whether Lallana and his camp would actually mislead a journo and the public is another matter, however, and quite an accusation. Finally, lets not forget the background for all this - quite a few players have already mentioned the wall of silence around the club. Many of them have no obvious axes to grind. It's obviously not as black and white as playing or misleading a journo, plenty shades of grey. Have that many players talked about a "wall of silence around the club"? Not seen that. There is obviously room for improvment in communication at the top, but lets not pretend that is the issue at the heart of the Blackmore/Lallana tweets. Edited 2 June, 2014 by Sour Mash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Also I'm sick of hearing Adam deserves champions league football Adam deserves his own personal arse wiper etc, what about what the fans deserve? I say make him honour his contract, stand firm like Liverpool did with the Suarez, Sent from my C1905 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Im with you Unbeleivable on a few points you mentioned Shurlock you seem to be very supportive of AB, either your a journo or AB maybe just another Sabina Pleasure ? and I appear to have touched a raw nerve with you re my comments about AB in an Earlier post Its not helpful with all this disinformation being spouted off. whether true, partly true or otherwise, its still not helpful As for Adam . Yes I want the best for him . he has been a loyal servant to the club and is a fine player and a quiet and sensible lad, I want him to stay with saints but sometimes we cannot always have what we want I believe that what ever is going on should be done in a private and diplomatic manner , not in the full glare of the media hence Blackmore should have shown a bit more diplomacy , It was only on friday night that some journo was saying that if liverpool do not get their man by sunday they would move on to another target. Was that the agent speaking , or an agent for the club . Wewill never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Also, just to remember, this agitating from Lallana's camp weakens our position and strengthens Liverpool's - all this from our Captain who spoke of how keen he was to end his career with us not too long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Also I'm sick of hearing Adam deserves champions league football Adam deserves his own personal arse wiper etc, what about what the fans deserve? I say make him honour his contract, stand firm like Liverpool did with the Suarez, Sent from my C1905 using Tapatalk Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 to Maybush Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So if Lallana was simply telephoning the club to find out what was happening and to speak to them about his future and the board are not returning his calls I would say that has to be totally unacceptable. He is the first team captain and our most valuable player yet he is being ignored. Contract or not this is not how a club who claims openness should act. Are they panicking? It certainly looks that way. I am certain Adam Blackmore is reporting correctly. And for those asking I am told players do not get part of the transfer fee whether they ask for a transfer or not. Oh dear, such a shame to see a post like this from someone on this forum that I respect. What bit of Ralph Kreuger's statement last week did Adam not understand? And what future does he want to discuss? He signed a new contract last year and stated he was happy to seeout his career in the Prem with Saints. All Adam's statements now start to ring a little hollow now, don't they? As others have said, he can stick in a transfer request now if he wants out, or wait until a team come in with an offer that matches our valuation of him. If I was him I would be keeping my mouth shut and start focussing on the biggest tournament of his career. Otherwise he is just coming over as yet another whiny prem prima donna. As you're posting Weston, perhaps you can tell us at what point last season the lad had his head turned? Did LFC tap him up after Christmas? Had he started making plans to go before the end of the season? Your insight would be appreciated, given your contacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Also, just to remember, this agitating from Lallana's camp weakens our position and strengthens Liverpool's - all this from our Captain who spoke of how keen he was to end his career with us not too long ago. Yep, very poor form on his part. One very good season in the prem. Before that, his relationship with Saints has been mutually beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Smacks of a player spitting his dummy out. He has seen Rickie get the dream move that was supposed to be his. Whatever our feelings on Rickie's transfer, it was acceptable to the board. But the club don't feel it's acceptable for Adam, at present. No one forced Adam to take a 5 - year contract which I presume included a large pay rise. So it cuts both ways Adam. You should be enjoying being at the pinnacle of your career you are in the world cup squad, probably going to start in the team for England. There are worse things in life so stop moaning enjoy your life if the worst comes to the worst you'll have to play for Saints next year. OH MY F**KING GOD WHAT A HORRIBLE THOUGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 It would be great if after all this we just refused to sell him at any price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 It's obviously not as black and white as playing or misleading a journo, plenty shades of grey. Have that many players talked about a "wall of silence around the club"? Not seen that. There is obviously room for improvment in communication at the top, but lets not pretend that is the issue at the heart of the Blackmore/Lallana tweets. Its not the driving issue. Never said it was. Lallana is pining for a move and we're rightly doing what's best for us, not him. We can't change the hand we've been dealt; but we can certainly play it more smartly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Maybe Lallana would be better off ringing Liverpool board and telling them that if they want him that badly they pay the asking price as he has 4 years left on a contact he was only too glad to sign not that long ago. Agreed... I hope we don't have another love in when he goes about a player we would rather have playing for us...wish them all the best blah blah, guff guff...yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Arrogant little **** expects executive board members at his beck and call over the weekend? You signed a contract, spade face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So if Adam wants to play CL he should work even hardwr to drag the team into the Top 4. As a fan it is a dream of mine to see Saints in the CL. Not going to realise that of we sell every player capable of playing in said competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Smacks of a player spitting his dummy out. He has seen Rickie get the dream move that was supposed to be his. Whatever our feelings on Rickie's transfer, it was acceptable to the board. But the club don't feel it's acceptable for Adam, at present. No one forced Adam to take a 5 - year contract which I presume included a large pay rise. So it cuts both ways Adam. You should be enjoying being at the pinnacle of your career you are in the world cup squad, probably going to start in the team for England. There are worse things in life so stop moaning enjoy your life if the worst comes to the worst you'll have to play for Saints next year. OH MY F**KING GOD WHAT A HORRIBLE THOUGHT. And all of this on the back of not waiting to see who our new manager is, and his aspirations for Lallana's role at the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Also I'm sick of hearing Adam deserves champions league football Adam deserves his own personal arse wiper etc, what about what the fans deserve? I say make him honour his contract, stand firm like Liverpool did with the Suarez, Sent from my C1905 using Tapatalk And this is the irony, of course. Liverpool refused to accede to Suarez's demands and were generally applauded by people in football for their stance in standing up to a dummy-spitting player, although let's be honest, it was entirely self-serving by Liverpool. A club who always claim the moral high ground should have sacked him following his disgraceful behaviour in racially abusing Evra and biting Ivanovic, but we'll gloss over that as easily as May 29 is always glossed over on the red half of Merseyside. But Liverpool expect us to lamely accept Lallana's request to let him go (if he has actually done that). Expect more cranking up of pressure on the club. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book: If the club are being stubborn, work on the player. That nice Steven Gerrard will be in Lallana's ear every hour of the day, and of course he now has Lambert to give it to him in stereo. Saints should stand firm and remind Lallana he signed a four-year contract extension last year, which he was happy to do and that he is paid handsomely to play football for the club. What's Lallana going to do? Go on strike and refuse to play? The only way he is going to continue to be a part of the England squad is by playing well for Saints. And I'm pretty sure if he did go on strike, Liverpool would not look too kindly on that. Unless there is an underlying agenda to sell off our best players (which I don't think there is, as Lallana would be gone by now) Saints have actually got the strongest hand. The ace up their sleeve is a four-year contract. There's a lot of twaddle spoken about "If a player doesn't want to be here, it's best to let him go, as you don't want a bad apple upsetting the rest of the dressing room." I'm pretty sure there are stronger characters in the dressing-room than Lallana, who might just pin him up against a wall and tell him to pull his finger out rather than sew seeds of discontent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I would rather let adam rot for four years in our reserves then sell him because he deems he done enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I think some of you are bieng a bit harsh on adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I think some of you are bieng a bit harsh on adam. B*ll*cks. Its time for the club to put the arrogant little f**kers in their place and stop the feeding frenzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I think some of you are bieng a bit harsh on adam. Indeed, far too much vitriol being poured on players who've done well for us for a considerable time. I must admit that I did warn you all that this was likely to happen if (probably should have been when) we failed to move to the next level as planned. The writing was on the wall when Cortese resigned, we had a plan, it wasn't fulfilled, these are the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I think that some of the vitriol being aimed at Lallana is a tad OTT to be honest. Yes, he signed a four year contract last year and so in theory that should be that, but life isn't quite that black and white. What is so wrong with seeking some clarification from his employers about what the current situation is, just for some peace of mind and to allow him to concentrate on doing his best for England. Some seem to be making the assumption that his he having some sort of tantrum and demanding the club accept the offer and give him a transfer. Maybe all he is doing is trying to get an update, one way or another, to put his mind (somewhat) at rest. It is only natural.....anyone who says that he should just simply ignore it all because he has a fresh four year contract is not allowing for the fact that he is a human being - not a robot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 As you're posting Weston, perhaps you can tell us at what point last season the lad had his head turned? Did LFC tap him up after Christmas? Had he started making plans to go before the end of the season? Your insight would be appreciated, given your contacts.I am sure that is just meant as a rhetorical question. Weston's "contact" is the same as mine and, believe it or not, the answer to that sort of question is not going to be forthcoming - nor is it going to be asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 I am sure that is just meant as a rhetorical question. Weston's "contact" is the same as mine and, believe it or not, the answer to that sort of question is not going to be forthcoming - nor is it going to be asked. So the answers are "yes" and "yes", then......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Indeed, far too much vitriol being poured on players who've done well for us for a considerable time. I must admit that I did warn you all that this was likely to happen if (probably should have been when) we failed to move to the next level as planned. The writing was on the wall when Cortese resigned, we had a plan, it wasn't fulfilled, these are the consequences. But it was. 5 years. Premier League. Consolidated. After that we just made it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 So the answers are "yes" and "yes", then.........Clearly not. The answers are "don't know" and "not asking"....but feel free to twist it any way that suits your own agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 Clearly not. The answers are "don't know" and "not asking"....but feel free to twist it any way that suits your own agenda. You posted the condescending response to Maybush, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 You posted the condescending response to Maybush, not me.No - explanatory response was to Maybush. The condescending one (if that is the way you see it) was directly to you. Notice I even quoted you in the response to assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 June, 2014 Share Posted 2 June, 2014 No - explanatory response was to Maybush. The condescending one (if that is the way you see it) was directly to you. Notice I even quoted you in the response to assist. All I see is someone being a smug git because he thinks he is ITK.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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