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If what Blackmore says is true (doubt it's little more than conjecture and hearsay personally) about the board not answering AL's calls, then good on them!

 

F**k the wining little pr!ck, until the 2 club's agree a fee it's nothing to do with him.

 

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He spoke to Lambert at the England game, quite possibly Lallana. What more does he have to say? He is reporting their thoughts and feelings, not his own, and he can't always put everything he knows out there.

 

One thing is for sure, he is well connected to the players and more reliable than any report you read from a national paper where Saints is concerned.

 

If you don't like it then fair enough, its not exactly a great message for us fans. But don't question his integrity, he is doing his job.

 

You always used to get your knickers in a twist as DPS, try to keep Jeff free from that for the sake of everyone.

 

Charlie you're becoming a pain in the arse. Lallana signed a new contract a year ago and shouldn't be acting like a prima Donna

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If what Blackmore says is true (doubt it's little more than conjecture and hearsay personally) about the board not answering AL's calls, then good on them!

 

F**k the wining little pr!ck, until the 2 club's agree a fee it's nothing to do with him.

 

This.

 

Very disappointed with Lallana if this is true.

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Brandon rogers hey Adam can you do me a favour I want to get some Southampton players on the cheapn

 

Blackmore okay what do you want me to do

 

Brendon's . Speak to the three lads in the England squad . Start to put a few negative stories about the saints you know unsettle their clypub

 

Blackmore yes boss . I will put loads of false stories about re Freddie Krueger and Lou read . Their fans are gullible and will believe anything our hacks print . Then they will turn in their board . They are good at that

 

Brendon nice one kiddo .i like yer style

 

Yes boss it's amazing what **** I can stir when I use my twitter account

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In defence of the board they want the best deal for the club. If Lallana wants to go then he has to put in a transfer request and sacrifice whatever bonuses he is entitled to. Fair enough, maybe they should have picked up the phone to him but if he is pushing for the move he goes on our terms and puts in a request to move. Don't really see what the board have done wrong there.

 

This, mostly.

 

I don't buy all this he deserves a move rubbish. If he goes I'll wish him well but the board are doing their job by playing hard ball.

 

Where I disagree with you is on the picking up the phone, I wouldn't and don't think they should have/do. What would it achieve in circumstances where the club don't want to accept the offer? Like you say, let him ask for the move if he wants it.

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Brandon rogers hey Adam can you do me a favour I want to get some Southampton players on the cheapn

 

Blackmore okay what do you want me to do

 

Brendon's . Speak to the three lads in the England squad . Start to put a few negative stories about the saints you know unsettle their clypub

 

Blackmore yes boss . I will put loads of false stories about re Freddie Krueger and Lou read . Their fans are gullible and will believe anything our hacks print . Then they will turn in their board . They are good at that

 

Brendon nice one kiddo .i like yer style

 

Yes boss it's amazing what **** I can stir when I use my twitter account

 

Yes, that's exactly what's happened.

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Brandon rogers hey Adam can you do me a favour I want to get some Southampton players on the cheapn

 

Blackmore okay what do you want me to do

 

Brendon's . Speak to the three lads in the England squad . Start to put a few negative stories about the saints you know unsettle their clypub

 

Blackmore yes boss . I will put loads of false stories about re Freddie Krueger and Lou read . Their fans are gullible and will believe anything our hacks print . Then they will turn in their board . They are good at that

 

Brendon nice one kiddo .i like yer style

 

Yes boss it's amazing what **** I can stir when I use my twitter account

 

Pal, you are a prize plum.

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Being more serious now is it just possible . That the board couldn't return Adams calls straight away . As the board were busy interviewing for our new manager . And when they did Adam didn't answer his phone as he was about to board the England plane bound for Miami ?

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Lallana needs to hand in a transfer request if he really wants to go. By not doing so and trying to apply pressure through the media is just going to pee everyone off. I don't understand why he hasn't done so to date, either he doesn't want to go (unlikely), or he thinks he owes it to the fans not to appear like he agitated for the move (possible) or he doesn't want to give up any payments he would be due (I really hope it isn't that).

 

so come on Adam put up or shut up.

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I'm not sure how things stand these days but it used to be the case that a player received 5% of the transfer fee if they didn't ask for a transfer, and 0% if they did.

 

Rickie supposedly "forced the board's hand" and it worked for him, so I fear that he and Lallana have been comparing tactical notes.

 

But, in fairness, the Board (Rickie's case apart) has stuck to its word that nobody would leave until the new manager has arrived, so they probably have nothing to add to that in any phone conversation with Lallana. That said, in the interests of at least trying to avoid ill feeling, they (which means Reed) could have returned his call.

 

Recruiting the new manager - I suspect and hope - is their sole focus right now because everything else flows from that.

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Jeez some people have there heads well and truly buried in the sand to the extent they are questioning Adam Blackmore's integrity.

 

Let's get one thing straight AB is a local media person who has been doing saints match commentaries for years. He has good contacts with in and around the club. he is just telling it the way it is. If the Happy Clappers are too blinkered to see that and think he has an agenda then I suggest they come off the internet and wait for announcement from club.

 

 

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I have been quite critical of the Board the last week or so however whilst they shouldn't be ignoring the efforts of their best player and Captain to contact them Lallana should know that unless Liverpool meet the asking price the Board will not (and should not) budge just because he wants to leave.

 

If he is that desperate to move the answer is simple - get in touch with Liverpool and ask that they raise their bid to the asking price and state that the difference can be taken from his wages over the duration of his contract. Liverpool get their way as it doesn't cost them any more, Saints get their way because they get their asking price, and he gets his move. He just doesn't earn as much, but if it is all about Champions League football and not money then he shouldn't be bothered...

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Like when cortese just put transfer offers in the bin, alledgedly.

 

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Brilliant mongboarism isn't it. Cortese rips up bids and puts them In front of a young player and it's spun as brilliant ambition and playing hardball, not being pushed around by bigger clubs. This board refuse to be bullied by Liverpool of out sulking captain and its a disgrace they aren't pandering to him whim.

 

As for Lallana. Stop sulking and stick a transfer request in if you want to go. What happened to all the kissing the badge and 'I love this club' all last season?

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Board can't win can they? They got s hit for allowing Lambert to engineer a move to Liverpool and not having the gonads to stand up to Liverpool and know when they appear to be playing hardball they get s hit for not bending over backwards to accommodate the player.

 

Personally I'm backing the board on this one loyalty is a two way street and Adam playing the loyalty card misses the point that the club have got him where he is now.

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Board can't win can they? They got s hit for allowing Lambert to engineer a move to Liverpool and not having the gonads to stand up to Liverpool and know when they appear to be playing hardball they get s hit for not bending over backwards to accommodate the player.

 

Personally I'm backing the board on this one loyalty is a two way street and Adam playing the loyalty card misses the point that the club have got him where he is now.

 

I'm with the board on this one. There's no reason why they have to be waiting by the phone for Lallana's call when it's the weekend. He wants his 'future' sorted by the world cup (but presumably that's code for 'move') but the board have made their position clear (Liverpool have to stump up £30m) and if that doesn't change then there's no reason for contact to take place.

 

Go to the world cup and do your best Adam, you might only get one chance at it.

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This, mostly.

 

I don't buy all this he deserves a move rubbish. If he goes I'll wish him well but the board are doing their job by playing hard ball.

 

Where I disagree with you is on the picking up the phone, I wouldn't and don't think they should have/do. What would it achieve in circumstances where the club don't want to accept the offer? Like you say, let him ask for the move if he wants it.

 

They should have answered his call to remind him he was Only too happy to sign a five year contract just over a year ago. If he has any ire or pressure he wants to apply then apply it to the Liverpool board, who if they want him as badly as he thinks will pay the price the selling club, who don't want or need to sell are asking for. Maybe also reminded him of his comments when he signed his new deal about biting peoples hands off of he could finish his career in the premier league with Saints, or was Clattenburg right about him after all?

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They should have answered his call to remind him he was Only too happy to sign a five year contract just over a year ago. If he has any ire or pressure he wants to apply then apply it to the Liverpool board, who if they want him as badly as he thinks will pay the price the selling club, who don't want or need to sell are asking for. Maybe also reminded him of his comments when he signed his new deal about biting peoples hands off of he could finish his career in the premier league with Saints, or was Clattenburg right about him after all?

 

Agree with you.

If it is just lambert who is sold with a good manager in, it will be a good window

 

Just can't see it

 

When is shaw off. His transfer to united that was agree months ago is taking ages to complete?????

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Llama can pat and kiss the badge at Anfield all he wishes soon enough, but we shouldn't get reamed over the price. Board stand firm.

 

Not ending his Saints career very gracefully - I fear he will be the one person to get a stinking reception from fans when 'pool play down here. Disappointing really.

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I can imagine the "ohh, he's so butch" rapture that would have greeted the news that Cortese was playing hardball with a wantaway star player.

 

Now, apparently, it's inexcusable. Come on then board, a player wants to go, let him go before he gets all upset and stuff.

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We could have avoided a lot of this crap with Lallana if we had done the sensible thing and made it crystal clear that no deals would be done on internationals before World Cup - End of. He's only so ****ed off now because he's seen that Rickie's got his way. If we'd taken a solid line, everyone would have known where they stood.

 

Exactly. Selling Lambert so easily has resulted in Lallana wanting to see if he can do the same. So **** him the monkey faced ****. He obviously wants a move and as well as getting it big time from the scouse tarts in the England squad, will stamp his feet if he can't get what he wants, when he wants. That contract was worth ****. Glad the board are holding out on this one.

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What good will come from the board listening to Adam Lallana. It is solely in the hands of the board if they wish to sell Adam Lallana. If they accept a bid then it is up to Adam to decide if he wishes to talk to the other club or he wishes to stay.

 

There is nothing to talk about in the interests of Southampton FC.

 

The board shows backbone and the forum finds that also unacceptable.

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Like when cortese just put transfer offers in the bin, alledgedly.

 

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Er not really. Actually not at all.

 

The board is completely right to play hardball -to tell Liverpool where to stick it, to remind Lallana that he's contracted to Southampton. End of.

 

Rather the issue is about appropriate man management - it's much easier to keep a disgruntled party onside if you communicate with them, even if it's news they don't want to hear. That can only be in the club's best interests.

 

I just hope the board is more professional than the two-bit and provincial mind set on here.

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Adam is an employee under contract. He should respect that.

 

The board should be straight with the players and explain that position though and not hide from it. The lack if a clear plan has seemingly created a vacuum in which uncertainty and opportunistic acts from other clubs have thrived.

 

Also some of the juvenile comments about Lallana are bang out of order. He has been (and I hope will continue to be) a great player for us.

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Er not really. Actually not at all.

 

The board is completely right to play hardball -to tell Liverpool where to stick it, to remind Lallana that he's contracted to Southampton. End of.

 

Rather the issue is about appropriate man management - it's much easier to keep a disgruntled party onside if you communicate with them, even if it's not what they want to hear. That's not just in Lallana's interests but more importantly in the club's interests.

 

I just hope the board is more professional than the two-bit and provincial mind set on here.

All correct, but from where is the story about not answering phone calls being leaked from? Likely to be hyped up just a bit by someone not getting what they want is what it sounds like to me.
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All correct, but from where is the story about not answering phone calls being leaked from? Likely to be hyped up just a bit by someone not getting what they want is what it sounds like to me.

 

Blackmore - was on Twitter last night answering questions.

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Er not really. Actually not at all.

 

The board is completely right to play hardball -to tell Liverpool where to stick it, to remind Lallana that he's contracted to Southampton. End of.

 

Rather the issue is about appropriate man management - it's much easier to keep a disgruntled party onside if you communicate with them, even if it's news they don't want to hear. That can only strengthen the club's position.

 

I just hope the board is more professional than the two-bit and provincial mind set on here.

 

Not really.

 

For all you know AL could have called the club six times yesterday with variations on the same question "have you sorted it yet", with the club answering the first four times then not bothering after that, if the answer basically hasn't changed and the club making it clear that "we will tell you when something changes". Footballer then goes whinging to the press.

 

The club would be acting in a perfectly proper way.

 

As usual, typical lack of insight and perspective from some on the forum.

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Only in football does the employee/employer relationship work in some bizarre way that the employer has to be seen to be grateful and work in the employee's interests. The world of modern day football really is an unattractive one.

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Er not really. Actually not at all.

 

The board is completely right to play hardball -to tell Liverpool where to stick it, to remind Lallana that he's contracted to Southampton. End of.

 

Rather the issue is about appropriate man management - it's much easier to keep a disgruntled party onside if you communicate with them, even if it's news they don't want to hear. That can only be in the club's best interests.

 

I just hope the board is more professional than the two-bit and provincial mind set on here.

 

I agree with all of this, and the last line is especially true. Most of the problems of the past few days have developed and worsened precisely because the "man management" strength that was one of Pochettino's fortés has been replaced by a disastrous vacuum.

 

It's also important to note that, if Spurs really aren't interested, Liverpool may well be Lallana's only option. And if they're true to their last position and turn their eyes elsewhere, he could still be a Saints player in August. Burning bridges isn't going to help anyone.

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All correct, but from where is the story about not answering phone calls being leaked from? Likely to be hyped up just a bit by someone not getting what they want is what it sounds like to me.

 

Correct. "They're not answering my calls" is just a proxy for "they won't let me leave".

 

It's an easy card to play, and true enough some fans have swallowed it whole.

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Are we really playing hardball on the fee, or is this just PR spin to soften us up ?

 

As someone has said earlier, we should just tell them to poke it if they dont match our valuation; there is no reason we need to let them bully us into a pre-WC agreement. Lallana can sulk for a bit and come back determined to prove to clubs the valuation we have, or he can let his career tail off. SFC have every right to protect their assets.

 

If we let this go through before the WC, it just proves yet again how useless our board are.

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The whole saga is sickening to be honest. At the root of it though is an employee who decided it was in HIS best interest to sign a four year contract with the club. He should be having a stiff conversation with agent for not explaining clearly enough to him that four years might actually mean four years if his employer wished to hold him to those terms. The Board have done the right thing by protecting the clubs interests it would seem and Lallana needs to back down and concentrate on the WC - a lovely prize gained from being a Saints player.

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Can anyone tell me whether the "5% clause" is still in effect? (The player receives 5% of the transfer fee if he doesn't request a transfer, 0% if he does)

 

If so, I'm all for telling Lallana that he is under contract and we don't want him to leave, and, if he wants to go, he'll have to request a transfer.

 

That doesn't just suss out whether Lallana really has his eyes on Champions League or a 1.5 million payday - it also acts as a club principle that won't be lost on other players.

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The board have to act in the clubs best interest and must not be bullied into making any decision.

 

But surely it's in the clubs best interest to keep our players informed, motivated and engaged with the future of the club. Simply answering the phone is a start, maybe giving them an insight into their plans and how they may achieve them is a good idea too.

 

Then, if players like Adam are convinced that we are ambitious still and will invest to achieve those ambitions, they may decide they WANT to stay here.

 

If our motivational speaker can't do that, who can blame a talented player for wanting to progress. So long as it's done respectfully, of course.

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Blackmore - was on Twitter last night answering questions.
Exactly so Lallana runs to Blackmore and kicks up a fuss about not getting what he wants, puts it all out in the public domain, weakens Saints' position and all this from our captain.
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Not really.

 

For all you know AL could have called the club six times yesterday with variations on the same question "have you sorted it yet", with the club answering the first four times then not bothering after that, if the answer basically hasn't changed and the club making it clear that "we will tell you when something changes". Footballer then goes whinging to the press.

 

The club would be acting in a perfectly proper way.

 

As usual, typical lack of insight and perspective from some on the forum.

 

There's probably dissimulation and distortion on all sides - the best we have to go on are a few tweets from a dour but largely safe-pair-of-hands local journo - the picture he paints is not the same as the one you lavishly portray.

 

But if it makes you feel better, fill your boots and put your own spin on things.

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Can anyone tell me whether the "5% clause" is still in effect? (The player receives 5% of the transfer fee if he doesn't request a transfer, 0% if he does)

 

If so, I'm all for telling Lallana that he is under contract and we don't want him to leave, and, if he wants to go, he'll have to request a transfer.

 

That doesn't just suss out whether Lallana really has his eyes on Champions League or a 1.5 million payday - it also acts as a club principle that won't be lost on other players.

 

I'm not sure if the 5% thing exists, but I'm pretty sure someone on here (can't remember who, but it was someone with known contacts) said Adam wouldn't get a cut either way.

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My wife always says you can't trust a bloke with a beard.

 

I don't trust women with beards (not inferring Mrs H has one!!)

 

As this all developes it's plain to see why AL was so uneasy accepting award after award at The End of Season Player of The Year event, and even less comfortable making any speeches about how happy he is here!!

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The board have to act in the clubs best interest and must not be bullied into making any decision.

 

But surely it's in the clubs best interest to keep our players informed, motivated and engaged with the future of the club. Simply answering the phone is a start, maybe giving them an insight into their plans and how they may achieve them is a good idea too.

 

Then, if players like Adam are convinced that we are ambitious still and will invest to achieve those ambitions, they may decide they WANT to stay here.

 

If our motivational speaker can't do that, who can blame a talented player for wanting to progress. So long as it's done respectfully, of course.

This looks to have flown over your head a bit. Lallana wants to go and play Champions League football and is trying to kick up a fuss via the media because Saints are saying 'no'. Lallana is in the wrong here, not the club.
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Exactly so Lallana runs to Blackmore and kicks up a fuss about not getting what he wants, puts it all out in the public domain, weakens Saints' position and all this from our captain.

 

As a professional journalist, you'd hope Blackmore would have weighed all the evidence and the potential for bias when putting something it in the public domain. That's what they're trained to do - they're not publicists. That's my experience anyway. Blackmore is far from perfect but doesn't strike me as a hatchet man.

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As a professional journalist, you'd hope Blackmore would have weighed all the evidence and the potential for bias when putting something it in the public domain. That's what they're trained to do - they're not publicists. That's my experience anyway. Blackmore is far from perfect but doesn't strike me as a hatchet man.
And how would he go about doing that getting a call or a few messages from Lallana or his reps? He is a safe pair of hands, but he's only human and has to take a punt on bits of info he's given, he's always going to put that out into the public domain.

 

So who is leaking the info and why?

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As a professional journalist, you'd hope Blackmore would have weighed all the evidence and the potential for bias when putting something it in the public domain. That's what they're trained to do - they're not publicists. That's my experience anyway. Blackmore is far from perfect but doesn't strike me as a hatchet man.

Maybe he is angling for the scoop that gets him off BBC Radio Local into the marbled hallways of Sky!?

 

and Adam (if he does want away) probably thinks that if he puts in a transfer request will make himself look a greedy little two faced scrote to the fans, so using a local Journo to lay down some mischief aimed at the board, means that we won't give him grief but the board will cop a load, but seeing as he is playing 230 miles away means he won't be that bothered for them.

 

I liked the line that he wants to play in the Champions League.................................. Yes and I would like an Aston Martin

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Jeez some people have there heads well and truly buried in the sand to the extent they are questioning Adam Blackmore's integrity.

 

Let's get one thing straight AB is a local media person who has been doing saints match commentaries for years. He has good contacts with in and around the club. he is just telling it the way it is. If the Happy Clappers are too blinkered to see that and think he has an agenda then I suggest they come off the internet and wait for announcement from club.

 

 

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Jason it's not about having our heads in the sand . But AB needs to show a bit more diplomacy in what he prints . It doesn't help the situation we find ourselves in .

 

He is clearly laying the blame at the board .Why ?

 

Oh he's mates with some players . Whoopee do .

How about journos putting the fans first and doing articles on the lack of commitment from players up and down the country and the way big clubs are able to use underhand methods to prize away the best starts from clubs .

 

That's what is wrong with football . So can I suggest you be more objective with your posts and understand both sides of the debate . If you think journos don't have an agenda and I don't just mean the likes of AB but across the board then think again .

I'm the middle if the road fan and prefer to see both sides of the debate . If that makes me a happy clapper then so be it .

 

I want what's best for Adam but I also believe in loyalty and commitment . And I also believe Adam is also being used as a pawn by other clubs and has had his mind well and truly turned.

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